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SpencerForbes:
Merchandiser. All this laws were created by man. That’s the Roman Catholic but our new preacher now incorporated it and make it sound divine. If it’s a church doctrine, let’s tell people the truth. Don’t try to blindfold the people with religion. Tell us it was meant to curb barbarism and I’ll understand but don’t lie to me that’s from God cos he didn’t state any in the book of deut.

there are those who teach UPTIGHTNESS instead of UPRIGHTNESS

Dtruthspeaker:
Jesus is The Lord and He Said marriage is permissible. So, this is off point.

And I have already explained why I said Noah, Daniel and Job, so you don't have any reasonable thing to say again

my point was based on you mentioning standard and naming three men while misusing the intent of why God mentioned them in the first place so as to elevate your own standard of morality as it relates to sex.

God said do not call unclean what he has made clean, so what exactly have you done now, Mr. Dtruthspeaker?

SpencerForbes:
It’s baffling😒 your preacher tells you something and you call it universal law. Wasn’t it done in the time of the Romans why wasn’t it penned down🤔 but other sins were penned down🤔
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me or MERCHANDISER?

Dtruthspeaker:
I was only pointing out what Mark and Standard God clearly wants and how He shall be very happy with anyone who kept it.

Jesus is the standard and he didn't marry so should we not marry as well?

Is that why you mentioned Daniel, job and Noah?

Fountainofyouth:
Where was it specifically written that Abraham, Jacob and the rest slept with their fiance before the ceremony? Tell us the book, chapter, and verse.

did Abraham marry Hagar, you want BCV hope you read them though

Gen 16:4 did Abraham marry her (paying her bride price) before sleeping with her?

Should I still quote for Jacob's concubines as well? Why not tell us the BCV where they got married to Jacob before he slept with them

Dtruthspeaker:
Am I the one with the jurisdiction to condemn?

It is conscience and God Who have jurisdiction to condemn.

All I did was simply state that God marked Noah, Daniel and Job scored them "PERFECT"

then were you using them to degrade the others or were you suggesting that that's what God was doing by mentioning those three

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you hear me say condemned?

did you not condemn the rest?

MERCHANDISER:
I am telling you the universal law not what Paul thought

where did you get the "universal law" from?

The common sense God gave everyone or most people would answer no, an image is a product that reflects the original

Col.1.15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

To reject that God created Jesus is to reject that Jesus is the son of God
To reject that he is the firstborn is to reject being brothers and sisters of Jesus Christ, as children of the Most High God

It is understandable why some rejects this things

2Cor.4.4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.


2Cor.4.5 - 6
We don't go around preaching about ourselves; we preach Christ Jesus, the Lord. All we say about ourselves is that we are your servants because of what Jesus has done for us.
For God, who said, "Let there be light in the darkness," has made us understand that this light is the brightness of the glory of God that is seen in the face of Jesus Christ.


Gen.1.3 Then God said, "Let there be light," and there was light...


First thing God created light, firstborn of all creation before heaven on the second day and earth on the third day.

For John wrote that Jesus is the light that was in the beginning, in Genesis.

John.1.4 - Life itself was in him, and this life gives light to everyone.
John.1.5 - The light shines through the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it.
John.1.6 - God sent John the Baptist
John.1.7 - to tell everyone about the light so that everyone might believe because of his testimony.
John.1.8 - John himself was not the light; he was only a witness to the light.
John.1.9 - The one who is the true light, who gives light to everyone, was going to come into the world.

John.8.12 - Jesus said to the people, "I am the light of the world. If you follow me, you won't be stumbling through the darkness, because you will have the light that leads to life."
John.9.5 - But while I am still here in the world, I am the light of the world."

MERCHANDISER:
The earlier you know that sex is for procreation not recreation the better for you.
This is universal law

even Paul knows it's also recreational 😏

tctrills:
I don't know, it was not stated but all I know is that Christ doesn't lie. If He says without baptism you can't enter His kingdom, I believe Him. I have no need to believe you over Him.

Mark 16:16 – “lHe that believeth and is baptized shall be saved.

baptized in what? Cele water or living water?

sweetkev:
Those three you mentioned are God’s in one.

Oga there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD even your autocorrect knows it's not gods

Mark.12.32 The teacher of religious law replied, "Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth by saying that there is only one God and no other.

John.17.3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

SpencerForbes:
What’s the difference between adultery and fornication 🤔
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adultery is when a married woman sleeps with a man who is not her husband, both the man and the woman are guilty of adultery

Fornication in it's basic term means prostitution, be it male or female that gives their bodies for money or sexual indulgence which is according to the scripture is listed as immorality, going against the moral and laws of Moses as regards to sexual relation.
Fornication as a broader sense to mean unfaithfulness and lack of commitment, as in the sense of idolatry.

Aidoko2:
Don’t allow Theology or organized religion to baptize you.
Baptism is in the name of Jesus and not the titles of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.


Be baptized in the name of Jesus and not the title of (father, son and Holy Spirit)
Matthew 28:19 go and baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Father is a title not name
Son is a title not a name
Holy Spirit is a title not a name

Jesus is the name of the father JOHN 5:43
Holy Spirits name is Jesus JOHN 14:23.

Baptism formula
Act 2:38
Act 10:48


Those that repeat the commission in Matthew 19:28 without mentioning the name of Jesus are the candidate of hell

Jesus is not the name of the Father and not the name of the Holy Spirit

Jesus is the name that all three bear witness to, the name God gave, the name the Spirit testifies as the Messiah and the name bear by the son of God

ocnovakmichael:
Baptism from the Greek word baptizo, meaning "to dip" or "to immerse." In Christianity baptism is the immersion of a believer in Christ in water: signifying the identification of the believer with the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the head of the church.

The second verse of the sixth chapter in the book of Hebrews, baptism(s) is referred to as one of the first principles of the doctrine of Christ. At baptism something miraculous happens: the one being baptized dies and resurrect in the spirit with Christ Jesus.

In scriptures, the revelation of baptism was a principle God used to usher in both men and nation into destiny. Baptism was revealed to Moses, Elijah, and John the Baptist; and was prophesied of the Christ. These four are what I will describe as the gate keepers: because each of them opened a new era, so to speak, in the realms of the Spirit. This was why the priests and Levites, whose responsibility is to offer up sacrifices unto God on the behalf of the children of Israel, asked John, "... Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet (Moses)" (John 1:25)?

In the book of first Corinthians, Paul in his epistle says, the children of Israel were baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea: symbolizing the baptism by water and of the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 10:1-2
[1]Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
[2]And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

You see, in order to bring the children of Israel into the promise land, God had to prepare and sanctify them through baptism in the cloud and in the sea.

Also, the prophet Elisha, when he was about to step into the office of the prophet after the order of his master Elijah, he was led through the rudiments of baptism in Jordans River; and afterwards, Elisha received a double portion of the spirit of Elijah.

2 Kings 2:6-8
[6]And Elijah said unto him, Tarry, I pray thee, here; for the LORD hath sent me to Jordan. And he said, As the LORD liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. And they two went on.
[7]And fifty men of the sons of the prophets went, and stood to view afar off: and they two stood by Jordan.
[8]And Elijah took his mantle, and wrapped it together, and smote the waters, and they were divided hither and thither, so that they two went over on dry ground.

Notice as the children of Israel were baptized unto Moses after they passed through dry land after the River was parted, so Elisha was baptized unto Elijah when they both passed through dry land on Jordan's River after it was parted.

John the Baptist understood by books and by the revelation of the Spirit that for the Christ to come, men must be baptized to sanctify, prepare and to make straight path for the coming Messiah. This was why John preached repentance and baptism. And when asked of his testimony he referenced the prophecy of Isaiah: "... I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord..." (Isaiah 40:3-4).

Now there's a scriptural foundation I want to emphasize on why many who are yet to be baptized should do so; and those who were baptized as infants, particularly Catholics and others, should perhaps rebaptize in adulthood.
To many what I'm about to teach might sound absurd but meditate on it in the light of scriptures and understand.

What am I getting to? You see, the Lord Jesus before his ascension into heaven said to his disciples, "... Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned" (Mark 16:15-16).

Did you notice in that text that Jesus said, "... He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved?" This statement implies that the believer will be baptized based on his faith and convictions in the gospel of Christ which was preached to him. Consider for example, Philip baptized the Ethiopian eunuch based on his belief in the scripture about Christ.

Acts 8:11,26-38
[11]And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.
[26]And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
[27]And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
[28]Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
[29]Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
[30]And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
[31]And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
[32]The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
[33]In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
[34]And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
[35]Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
[36]And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
[37]And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[38]And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.


Notice Philip got a testimony of the eunuch's belief in Christ before baptizing him.

This is why I said Catholics who were baptized as infants should perhaps rebaptize in adulthood because as infants their parents or guardians professed faith on their behalf before they were baptized. As infants, they had no conviction nor professed faith in Christ of their own before being baptized.
I was born into a Catholic family and I'm still a Catholic, but when I came into adulthood I had to rebaptize because by my own convictions and faith in Christ Jesus not of my parents. Jesus said, [i]"... He (that is, the individual) that believeth and is baptized..." [/i]He that will be baptized must do the believing himself and not someone else doing the believing on his behalf.

In the final analysis, the children of Israel were baptized unto Moses and that opens the door into their promise land; Elisha was baptized unto Elijah and that opens the door for him to step into the office of the prophet; John the Baptist baptized many and it opens the way for the Messiah to come, the Lord Jesus was baptized and the heaven over him was opened, the Ethiopian eunuch was baptized and that opens Africa to the gospel of Christ, the disciples were baptized on the day of Pentecost and it opens the world to the gospel of Christ.

I'm confident that when you, the reader, get baptized, the heaven over you will open up.


Do not hoard knowledge, propagate it!


Jesus is Lord!

after writing all this, especially being baptized into Moses do now see that water baptism is baptism unto John

Jesus didn't baptize anyone with water but with the Holy Spirit, the living water

Dtruthspeaker:
And God did uphold them on His score of "PERFECT".

But Noah, Daniel, Job scored it. And no where did you see them fornicate or commit adultery or polygamy

and the rest where condemned because those three only where mentioned? Wait did Daniel even marry?

You can't change how the scripture defines a term to suit your own moral standards and you add polygamy, if you fear God you won't add to his commands in the first place and place a yoke upon people's neck.

UkoAnnang:


There's no hell fire anywhere

that's because it's for the dead not for the living

Jesus said when you are rejected in a city leave, dust your sandals, infact he even said FLEE

Matt.10.23 When you are persecuted in one town, flee to the next. I assure you that I, the Son of Man, will return before you have reached all the towns of Israel...


SO WHY WOULD YOU STAY AND CONTINUE TO LIVE IN ANY PLACE THAT REJECTS JESUS

ebubeson:
When it comes to sexual fulfilment in marriage, to what extent are Christian couples allowed to explore sex?

There are certain sexual patterns in marriage that are ungodly. They do not glorify God e.g. anal sex.

Married Christian couples are free to enjoy sex to the fullest, but must be sensitive and watchful in not engaging in abominable sex pattern.

so if a husband and wife decide to engage in oral and anal sex they both have sinned according to you or your Bible?

With the numerous lists of immoral sexual activities, please tell us where the above is stated or at least explain why it is abominable sex pattern that is ungodly because last I checked, Jesus nor the apostles NEVER described how a married couple should satisfy the bodies that now belongs to each other.

jesusjnr2020:
Sex Outside Marriage Isn't Called Dating

Sex outside marriage isn't called dating but fornication.

That's what it is called by God so no matter how anyone tries to paint it, it would never change the fact that sex outside of marriage is fornication which is a sin before God.

So instead of trying to change the name of sex outside marriage, change your sinful ways and get it right with God before it's too late.

God bless.

if the Bible did indeed define fornication as sex outside marriage then there many fornicators in the Bible from Abraham Jacob Judah down to every single Israelite that slept with their fiance before the ceremony.

Ken4Christ:
If you don't know that Jesus is God, then your state is worse than unbelief.

He said he is Alpha and Omega. What does that mean to you.

He is the I Am.

He is the resurrection and the life.

He is the image of the invisible God

He is God (the Word) made flesh.

And too many more scripture evidence that points to the divinity of Jesus. May God open your eyes.

Lol God the word?? you haven't told us what Jesus was before he became the lamb of God according to you

Jesus never said he is the alpha and omega, that was spoken by the Lord God Almighty

Emusan:
The Father is also THE SOURCE.

Is there anything the Father has that Jesus doesn't have?

so the Source is something they both have and not who they are? what kind of crooked talk is that

The source means one definite source but because you like listening to the author of confusion you are hear mentioning two sources

Jesus is the source
The father is the source

If they ask you is Jesus the father you would type no

Emusan:
So in a nutshell Jesus is the SOURCE OF ALL CREATIONS according to Rev 3:14.

Do you agree?

if Jesus is THE source then what is the Father God?

Ken4Christ:
Unbelief will send you to hell. Continue.

Jesus is God. Jesus is Lord. Jesus is Alpha and Omega. Your Unbelief doesn't change the truth. But it will set you on the pathway of destruction.

to believe in Jesus is to trust what he revealed about himself any other thing bro is deception

And Jesus never called himself God and only acknowledged that he the son of man is the son of God.

You dodge simple questions and come here to tell someone that unbelief will send them to hell, meanwhile you do not even believe the truth of God's word but some doctrines of nicolatians

chiedu7:
the KJV correctly calls him SON of the Morning.

no angel is called son of the morning but morning star

TheNobleProphet:
If I choose to hide my sin, are you the one who will judge my hidden sins?

You better be very careful with the false assumptions and falsehood you are spreading so you don't incur the wrath of GOD ALMIGHTY 👌

if you read carefully your answer was already written but you don't and did not. You really have nothing else to say nor add other than lie against others you think that justifies you?

TheNobleProphet:
The Perfect Laws of GOD will surely deal with your sins wether you choose to hide it or not!

But you gohf now have to tell the world where Jesus Christ asked anyone to go out and confess in an altar.

I'm waiting!

so you are claiming that "hiding sins" are okay after all "the perfect laws of God" will deal with them.

Why are you not saying the truth that, God judges those who fail to confess and repent from their sins, even if they hide it. Lol bro those laws will find the person and that hidden sin and punish them but you want people to relax and hide their sins and wait for punishment abi?

Did I tell you that Jesus said anything about going to any altar to confess your sins. Is the altar God or the person you offended? Is the altar confess your sins to one another

Oga whether they make the confess public or private what is your business, why are you promoting people hiding their sins?

sonmvayina:
Exodus 20:5 I am the lord your God who brought you out of the land of slavery out of the house of bondage, YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER god BEFORE ME.
Verse 6. You shall no make the image or LIKNESS of anything that is in the heavens or under the waters below the earth or the earth. Do not bow down to them or serve them.

The Romans created a God in the likeness of a man, something that is found on earth and you are worshipping him, like a...

If you want to keep ignoring what I am writing and claiming to be right by yourself or self-right what is the point of having a conversation.

Now where we even talkin about any created god

sonmvayina:
How did Jesus come about? Of course I know it's all myth. But you guys believe it is true...

How would. You defend it?

this is not the first time I have had this conversation with you, don't disappear again o.

God said the woman's seed will crush the head of serpent (sin/satan)
And God's word always comes to pass

Did God tell you he had to impregnate a woman for his word to become flesh and come to pass?

TheNobleProphet:
No, HE did not!

Where did Jesus ask you to come out openly and confess in an altar? Please, you have to show it to the world to see!

oga what you wrote was expose him or herself

If you are talking about public repentance, then what about john's baptism, Mary's oil, short man zachaeus it wasn't Jesus that asked him to do that. But Jesus never told anyone to hide their sins

Ken4Christ:
Why did he say, "Before Abraham, I Am"

even Noah was before Abraham but you don't see anyone calling Noah God do you?

upnation90:
I once had an encounter with a girl who told me she was a virgin. This same girl had lived couples life in the uni. One thing led to another, she confessed that since she has given her life to Christ old things had passed away. That was the reason she called herself a virgin.

😮😲😧🤯😂 is that one virginity by "faith"