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kernniejay:
You also forgot that everybody is holy on Sundays including husband that beat their wife, bosses that owe their workers salary and treat them like slaves, landlords that values his rent and property above God even politicians that embezzle the future of their people and prostitutes that just woke up from brothels.

lol they don't know we cannot package into heaven

Lukuluku69:
[James 2:1-26 (KJV) My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:
Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?
Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Here's a perfect verse where there's no need for extra not too much talk needed, we either believe and accept it or we reject it and look for what pleases us to hear

FxMasterz:
Final Question

If Father and Son both share titles, worship, and attributes that cannot be duplicated (King of kings, Lord of lords, Creator, Savior, Fountain of Life, Shepherd, Judge, then non-Trinitarians must answer:

Are there two gods—or is the mystery of the Trinity the only way to resolve this divine unity?

Anything else is not monotheism. It is nothing short of paganism.

CC: TenQ, Ken4Christ, Gabrielshow24, Image123, Emusan, DoWhatThouWilt, SarcasticWords, FreeIgboho, Janosky

too tired to respond piece by piece to what you wrote but so you believe that a mystery not a revelation, a mystery resolves some misunderstood you quoted?

Lol as if God did not appoint judges and raise up saviors and anoint kings 🤣😂

When did sharing a title mean there was another God besides God, even God apointing Moses to be God to Pharaoh did not make Moses God not a God but a representative of God.

Lol shared titles, na why them no call Jesus God repeatedly 🤣🤣, it's because God is not a title but a person YhVH ✌(◕‿-)✌

paxonel:
You are repeating the same thing in various ways of saying it.

Accepting and believing in Jesus, desiring to please God, desiring to be in his presence, desiring to be filled with the holy spirit, consistently worshipping God in spirit and in truth, are all one and the same unnecessary repetitions

ITK they are not one and the same, funny enough even if they were what's the problem with NECESSARY repetitions? Was this your post even necessary?

Lol and it makes front page, 😂 like there is no other thread in Christian section to share first

FxMasterz:
I have given you an elaborate answer in my answer to Pulsingpurple. But, let me make this little addition here.


Jesus came as Both man and God. He manifests both sides without mixing them up.

so you are saying Jesus was two persons in one 😏

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all this to make front page for what gain?

They haven't pushed this to front page yet, I am shocked 😱🙀 😏

Happy Sunday, sons and daughters of God everywhere

Happy Sunday, sons and daughters of God everywhere

cutecommend:
Speaking in tongues recklessly; whether at home, in church, while leading prayers e.t.c is not good. You should speak in tongues rightly, always, but not frivolously.
When You Should Not Speak in Tongues:

(1) During Prayer for Repentance: if a person or group of persons are praying a prayer of repentance for sin, backsliding, disobedience e.t.c. It is wrong to speak in tongues at such times; rather, a clear confession of sin & request for forgiveness from God should be made. I got part of this insight from a clergy.

(2) During Prayers in Secular Places: If you are told to lead prayers in a political gathering, national centres, office, general places e.t.c. It is not a time to show spirituality. It is a time to pray so that everyone understands. You can pray in tongues on your own.

(3) When Praying to God About Your Weaknesses, shortcomings, Character flaws: If you are speaking to God as a Father on your weaknesses, shortcomings, character flaws e.t.c, you are to tell God clearly about it & that he needs to help you get free. It is not really a time to blast in tongues.

agree with the first two not so sure about the third, you know Rom.8.26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. (NKJV)

Happy Sunday, sons and daughters of God everywhere

Happy Sunday, sons and daughters of God everywhere

Happy Sunday, sons and daughters of God everywhere

Happy Sunday, sons and daughters of God everywhere

Happy Sunday, sons and daughters of God everywhere

Happy Sunday, sons and daughters of God everywhere

Do not be unequally yoked, don't love those who love money they will sell you and betray you

I wish posts like this would make front page even on a sunday but sadly "the truth doesn't move market", let me not adding anything more distracting, let this post update this thread

Yes because of love. I know some of you dont want to hear it as you have gotten use to blaming sex and label samson fall to that, but when you actually start reading your bible more than you listen to others read it for you, just maybe the Holy Spirit will teach you.

If you have never read the story of samson you may be pardoned for thinking samson is a womanizer but he wasn't and the truth is samson fell because he loved the wrong kind of woman.

Infact this truth is more impactful than some shallow excuse of he fell because of sex.

Lets please read the bible

Judg.16.4 Some time later, he fell in love with a woman in the Valley of Sorek whose name was Delilah.

What is recorded wasnt his lust for her but that he loved her infact it's because of this love that he fell.

Samson had been careful to trust any woman because of his past experiences, from judges 14 where it records he found someone he liked and not withstanding tribe or nationality he didn't go sleeping with her like some womanizer some make him out to be, he went to marry her but sadly he never slept with her because she was given to another man.

Samson must have loved her for this to annoy him

Judg.15.3 Samson said to them, "This time I have a right to get even with the Philistines; I will really harm them."

When you read samson what do you see, some womanizer that your pastors are justified to speak poorly about?

Listen
Judg.14.16 - Then Samson's wife threw herself on him, sobbing, "You hate me! You don't really love me. You've given my people a riddle, but you haven't told me the answer.I haven't even explained it to my father or mother," he replied, "so why should I explain it to you?"
Judg.14.17 - She cried the whole seven days of the feast. So on the seventh day he finally told her, because she continued to press him. She in turn explained the riddle to her people.

How many of you can withstand the pressure of a woman you love, before you jump and answer what if that woman is your mother?

Oh you think men don't get manipulated by their mothers who know their sons love them.

Samson was not only bretrayed by his wife but his best man and even people of his nation
A man so strong yet he never led an army, why is that, have you ever asked yourself?

Before we get judgemental or imbibe their judgemental spirit, please read, "oh samson sleeps with prostitutes etc etc", please read;

Judg.16.1 - One day Samson went to Gaza, where he saw a prostitute. He went in to spend the night with her.
Judg.16.2 - The people of Gaza were told, "Samson is here!" So they surrounded the place and lay in wait for him all night at the city gate. They made no move during the night, saying, "At dawn we'll kill him."
Judg.16.3 - But Samson lay there only until the middle of the night. Then he got up and took hold of the doors of the city gate, together with the two posts, and tore them loose, bar and all. He lifted them to his shoulders and carried them to the top of the hill that faces Hebron.


I cant remember the name of the man, one ex military man on tv one day explained the tactics used by samson in these verses and if that wasnt enough he reminded us of the spies who went to rahabs house, so are we also to say that the 12 of them slept with rahab?

You dont go to enemy territory to sleep much less with a prostitute, samson went there for a reason, layed low and when he knew he was discovered because he was alert not fooling around... you know what just read the verse 3.


So back to Delilah the opportunistic, fear women who love money, she was with a one of a kind man but betrayed him for money and what did she use against him, was it her body?
No
Please read
Judg.16.15 - Then she said to him, "How can you say, 'I love you,' when you won't confide in me? This is the third time you have made a fool of me and haven't told me the secret of your great strength."
Judg.16.16 - With such nagging she prodded him day after day until he was tired to death.


You know what happened after this, if you don't please read it.

Now how many of you think you are better than samson? Me i am not, I pray never to love the wrong people in my life in Jesus name

dollytino4real:
Any which way God must be praised Jesus must be praised how Spirit must be praised too

Spirit must be praised too? Where did you get that from?

Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem, saying, “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him” (Matthew 2:1-2).


The first record of Jesus being worshipped was as KING

In Luke 2:13-14 God was praised in heaven and not for coming down on earth, but for sending his favor and peace to men.

Globad:
Don't change the subject. It is not simply about forgiveness

Of course, forgiveness is older than Christianity or Christian teachings. No?

We're talking about the absurdity in the teaching that God gave birth to Himself and killed Himself in order for forgiveness to happen.

Imagine if this was the teaching by African traditional religions?

Is my asking you questions, related to your response, me changing the subject?

Did I tell you anything about God giving birth to Himself and killed Himself in order for forgiveness to happen?

Now what exactly is your question with you starting with imagine if... 😕

God did not give birth to Himself nor kill Himself, that's an absurd idea. I already told you clearly but let me repeat it well; God sent his son Jesus Christ, who willingly gave his life believing the promise of God for resurrection and God rose him up on the third day as a sign that God's word and promise is to, to resurrect and give life to anyone and everyone who repent from their sins, forsakes their wicked ways and do what is right and good, and love others.

Now I do not know what offense you have against Christianity or other religions or what you like about other religions, but none of them matter to be fair. no matter who you claim you are or what you claim to believe, if you do not repent from your sins and do what is good and right, you will die like the rest of us and stay dead till dead are judged.

But God gives everyone if those who lived before Jesus the freedom from death if they lived their lives doing what is good and right, out of love not wickedness and selfishness and other vices that have made many believe there is no God, no judgement and no justice nor love.

If you hurt others and are too proud to apologize and make peace or if you bear a grudge and can't even tell the person who hurt you so that they can be forgiven, what do you gain from such a life. To have it all but to lose yourself in the end, it's not and never worth it.

God's word no matter the time and age remains, repent for His kingdom is close.

LordReed:
You are acting as if Grok is a self aware entity that is my point.

I am acting? do you think this is a show or some game?

I clearly stated I used a tool to analyze a text, and after all you have said, this is what you claim is your point. 🙏🏾 It's well with you

Globad:
You're still using the same verses to support the warped theology

warped? Because people make mistakes and can repent and ask for forgiveness? That's warped to you?

Globad:
Which sin are we cleansing ourselves from?


Let the person who committed the sin ask for forgiveness

So, after the blood, does it mean that humans are no longer sinning?

That theology doesn't make any sense abd Christiandom will continue to struggle with it since they created it after the Nicene conference

Imagine that kind of awkward theology coming from African traditional religion? One God being split into 3. God being born. God dying. God resurrecting. God killing himself.

Rom.3.23 For all have sinned; all fall short of God's glorious standard.

1John.1.7 - 10
But if we are living in the light of God's presence, just as Christ is, then we have fellowship with each other, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, cleanses us from every sin.
If we say we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and refusing to accept the truth. But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us and to cleanse us from every wrong.
If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling God a liar and showing that his word has no place in our hearts.

Jas.5.16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.

Jas.3.2 We all make many mistakes, but those who control their tongues can also control themselves in every other way.

Jas.5.19 - 20
My dear brothers and sisters, if anyone among you wanders away from the truth and is brought back again, you can be sure that the one who brings that person back will save that sinner from death and bring about the forgiveness of many sins.


And finally Jesus said in Matt.18.15 - 17
"If another believer sins against you, go privately and point out the fault. If the other person listens and confesses it, you have won that person back. But if you are unsuccessful, take one or two others with you and go back again, so that everything you say may be confirmed by two or three witnesses. If that person still refuses to listen, take your case to the church. If the church decides you are right, but the other person won't accept it, treat that person as a pagan or a corrupt tax collector.

🙏🏾 ✌🏾

Some say Jesus is not created because he is eternal but I say to them that it is because God created Jesus and he Jesus exists eternally that we should believe in God for He is able to create us eternally too.

Look at what Paul wrote in 2Cor.5.17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!

While some may believe this new you or new life is solely to overcome sin, Eph.4.24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.

But I tell you this new life is ALSO for eternity, for our eternal life. For God will not destroy the righteous Gen.18

1Pet.1.23 For you have been born again. Your new life did not come from your earthly parents because the life they gave you will end in death. But this new life will last forever because it comes from the eternal, living word of God.


If you believe it's impossible for God to create and make Jesus then it is likewise impossible for God to make you as Jesus is

Listen to what another apostle, John wrote, our third witness
1John.3.2 Yes, dear friends, we are already God's children, and we can't even imagine what we will be like when Christ returns. But we do know that when he comes we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is.

Paul explaining this to us wrote:
1Cor.15.47 - 50
Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven. Every human being has an earthly body just like Adam's, but our heavenly bodies will be just like Christ's. Just as we are now like Adam, the man of the earth, so we will someday be like Christ, the man from heaven. What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These perishable bodies of ours are not able to live forever.

So if God did not make Jesus and send him to us to show how that this new life God has made can overcome sin, death and be eternal then what is our faith based on


1Cor.15.14 - 15
And if Christ was not raised, then all our preaching is useless, and your trust in God is useless. And we apostles would all be lying about God, for we have said that God raised Christ from the grave, but that can't be true if there is no resurrection of the dead.


Christ wasn't a man made product, he was created and formed by God and was raised from the dead.

Brethren, Rom.8.29 For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn, with many brothers and sisters.

God bless you as you believe and obey God

LordReed:
LoLz. I clearly wrote Biblical textual analysis. Grok is not trained on that. It's an LLM so you are merely raving over its capacity to manipulate language to produce coherent statements. It is not even one of the more accurate LLMs when it comes to sourcing information something you shouldn't even be using AI for. You probably don't even realise the limitations of these AI platforms.

If you read the basis of the analysis I wasn't interested in it sourcing information but using solely it's ability to analyze Greek language, syntax and nuance.

Stop being an ITK even to you assuming what I know and don't know

LordReed:
Grok is not an AI trained on Biblical textual analysis. I dunno why you think its results are definitive.

You would have made a point if you had stated an AI that's "so called trained in such" but as you don't even realize that grok has a good language analysis system it's obvious you not making one.

SonofElElyonRet:
You want to define God and determine who he is by your own parametres?
Genesis 19:24 And Yahweh (The Lord) rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Yahweh (The Lord) out of heaven. 2 Yahwehs mentioned here.
God is one in unity and not in number. Do deep research and you'll see that God is a Trinity with the Father being the Head of the Triumvirate. They all share the same essence, nature and qualities, totally distinct from all else and all three created all else.
Job 33:4 the Spirit of God has made me
Isaiah 48:16 NKJV. “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me.”
Isaiah 63:10: "But they rebelled and grieved His Holy Spirit. So He turned and became their enemy, and He Himself fought against them".
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace"
Acts 5:3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit....
p.s. in the actual sense, it is the body of Jesus that died. Jesus said "destroy this temple (His body) and I will raise it up in 3 days". Jesus the Eternal Word did not die. They killed the body He inhabited. He sacrificed His body for our sins and raised it up again after 3 days. "In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word was with God and the Word was God.... All things were made by Him and without Him was not anything made that was made"

quick question in Genesis 18, YHVH appeared to Abraham and Moses noticed three men, from verse 20-22 YHVH said he was leaving and two men left but in vs 22, Abraham is still standing before YHVH

were all three YHVH
was only one of them YHVH
or were all three just representatives of YHVH

while you answer do note, no one has seen God except Jesus, (John 1:18, 6:46, 1 John 4:12.)

second quick simple question, in Isaiah 9:6 is it his NAME or his nameS?

third simple question, who did Ananais speak to in acts 5:3? Was it Peter or not?

Globad:
The same God who prevented Abraham from using his son as a sacrifice later decided to use His own "son" as a conditional sacrifice?

He sacrificed the son to Himself. He shed His own blood for Himself to accept.

Even with the sacrifice with conditions, sins still exist.

Meanwhile, Satan was spared...

Many things here are wrong and based on wrong narrative

God did not sacrifice Jesus or his son, Jesus gave his life, he gave himself same thing children of God are expected to do, offer yourself as a living sacrifice totally obedient to God even to death.

Secondly, the blood isn't meant for God but for us to cleanse ourselves from sin, the blood was shed on earth it wasn't shed not sent to heaven.

thirdly the blood doesn't remove sins nor the consequences of sins from everyone only those who come to God with a repentant heart. That's why two were crucified beside Jesus but only one received the promise of the kingdom of God