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Janosky:
The concept was not even mentioned nor discussed in Proverbs 8:22-30.

like! I don't even know where to start, she's not tracking the conversation nor following what she herself is even writing.

Her level of understanding is to refer to one time mention of a phrase as "mundane fixation" and when she is told she isn't using words properly she goes on the defensive and attacks, instead of even trying to explain how or why she used it.

Like how I can even have a conversation with someone who seems more interested in typing than actually reading and understanding what is written. If she is showing poor understanding of people's words it's obvious the concept in Proverbs is beyond her and she won't even listen to learn.

Julia25:
What’s with the laugh? Did you miss the phrase 'as originating' up there? Or is it the word 'transcendental' that’s tripping you up?

Honestly, how a Christian can be asking 'where did God transcend from?' is beyond baffling 😂😂. Your delusion must be strong—but I don’t have the time (or the patience) to cure it. May God at least allow you to transcend over it 🤧 .

Since you love the word so much, let me help: God didn’t transcend from anywhere, He transcends all things. Meanwhile, you seem stuck trying to transcend simple logic 🤦🏾‍♂️. And until you do, you’ll just keep transcending from one absurd question to the next 😂.

being able to type many words but not being able to properly understand one word you keep (improperly)using "transcendent"

so it's obvious you don't also understand the question "transcended from where"?

At least use a dictionary Google or something so maybe we can have a convo, please. 🙏🏾

Julia25:
Don't be petty , at least you have a thesaurus, look up the meaning of " transcendental " as it applies to God .

Is that not what I said? Or did you see something else in my write-up? It's in the first paragraph for Christ's sake .

I will leave you to your delusions.

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Thankgod89:
Forgiveness was accomplished once-for-all at the Cross, but it becomes yours in experience only when you believe — and that believing heart is what Scripture calls repentance.

On the Cross, Jesus bore the sin of the world.

“He forgave us all our sins” (Colossians 2:13).

“By one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy” (Hebrews 10:14).


At that moment, God was no longer holding the world’s sins against them (2 Corinthians 5:19). Forgiveness is not something God is still deciding about — it is a finished reality.

“Everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name” (Acts 10:43).

Repentance is not “listing every sin” — it is a change of heart and mind produced by believing.


God’s forgiveness is not earned by repentance; it was purchased by Christ’s blood. But forgiveness is not enjoyed apart from repentance, because repentance is what genuine faith looks like.

Col 2:13 you quoted was Paul referring to those who repented and came to Christ Jesus, and not to everyone

If you are willing read from Col.2.10...
and you are complete through your union with Christ. He is the Lord over every ruler and authority in the universe. When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. It was a spiritual procedure--the cutting away of your sinful nature. For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to a new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead.
You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ. He forgave all our sins.

Acts.3.19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,

You quoted Heb.10.14 because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

So the death, the blood was for our perfecting, do you really understand and know what that means? So the blood is still working and at work for those who ARE BEING MADE holy.

Believing in your heart is not repentance, that's doctrine from hell.

You claimed,"Forgiveness is not something God is still deciding about — it is a finished reality." Are you saying God has already forgiven the whole world?

Anyway irrespective of whatever you mean, you quoted 2corin.5.19 is a finished reality yet it using the term "reconciling" and not "reconciled" like you claimed

Infact you read 2Cor.5.18 All this newness of life is from God, who brought us back to himself through what Christ did. And God has given us the task of reconciling people to him.

So those who have repented and turned back to God are the "US", the those who are given the task and message of reconciling people to God.

With what? The gospel, the same one Jesus preached. And what's the gospel? REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND. REPENT.

Believe in Jesus, believe what he said and what did Jesus say, REPENT. REPENTANCE IS TURNING AWAY FROM YOUR WICKED WAYS AND TURN TO GOD.

You have a way of mixing error into the truth, REPENT like Jesus told the churches in revelation so that you will be forgiven.

😂 not surprised Gabriel is a well known accuser and false teacher, you will say A and he will teach and deduce Q
That's what false teachers do with their false doctrines they base off the truth of God's word.

Julia25:
"As originating" —If you didn't see that then you have a problem.

If your own God created wisdom, as you peddle it, then he was foolish but if the concept called "wisdom" originated from him then there's no problem except if your God is not transcendental .

God is wisdom. Also in poetical languages, you can say "God created wisdom" but the context is that wisdom originates from God, it has always been with him, He didn't just attain it, He is Wisdom!

lol "transcendental" you sound like a comic book writer, so where did God transcend from?

Don't bother answering seeing as you don't properly understand the phrase "of God as originating"

Janosky:
Screenshot evidence & footnote of Proverbs 8:22-30 (NET Bible) gives clarity to your point .

thanks, I hope julia25 and Co will see this as well

"it's impossible"?? Yet John wrote in 1 John:4

[1] Dearly loved friends, don’t always believe everything you hear just because someone says it is a message from God: test it first to see if it really is. For there are many false teachers around,
[2] and the way to find out if their message is from the Holy Spirit is to ask: Does it really agree that Jesus Christ, God’s Son, actually became man with a human body? If so, then the message is from God.
[3] If not, the message is not from God but from one who is against Christ, like the Antichrist you have heard about who is going to come, and his attitude of enmity against Christ is already abroad in the world.


Holy Bible (TLB) The Living Bible

Emusan:
Yet you couldn't provide the said God's word to back your claim.



Are these the scriptures that says God CREATED Jesus to be His exact image?




Do Trinitarians ever told you that there's are TWO/THREE ONLY GODS Or you didn't know that Trinitarians also agreed that there's ONLY ONE GOD?

accusing me falsely doesn't change the truth available and evidence provided but you can continue doing what you are good at 👍🏾

It's like some haven't learnt from Rome and Roman catholic history what happens when one weaponizes or puts guns in the than hands of priests and make it more political. When you marry church and state, you don't get the kingdom of God, you get men wrapped in ambitious now given the power to do what they want "in the name of God". Even so called Muslim states are examples of how ruthless religious leadership can be.


In all honesty that's the kind of state that the antichrist thrives in, rules over and is celebrated.

Should pastors be involved in politics, well when Paul wrote the criteria for being an overseer, deacon and pastor, politics wasn't stated. God isn't democratic and the basis and foundation of politics is different from God's kingdom, those states are going to be destroyed by Jesus not ruled by him, destroyed and God's kingdom established. You cannot be UNEQUALLY yoked.

As pastors your message and word to politicians is to be truthful, honest and faithful but those who know politics know that there's a level of dishonest lies and deception they employ to agree with those who are selfish and wicked. The genuine believers who are politicians are suffering from the corrupted view and ideologies of men. So if a pastor wants to be a politician he must be prepared for war or be prepared to be UNEQUALLY yoked with them.

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I am always in church the body of Christ where every child of God is 😊

When I look at the statement "forgiveness without repentance", I ask myself, why do some teach such? What is the basis such is being taught?

You may have heard some say, 'well you can't repent of all you have done', 'like how many can you even remember', 'God doesn't wait for you to say sorry before he forgives you that's how much he loves you', 'like what kind of father wants his child to keep apologizing for what he has forgiven them for'.
Which are all a lot of well sounding logic to make people accept that forgiveness can be gotten without repentance.

Infact at times if you don't forgive a person who hasn't repented or asked for forgiveness you are seen as the bad guy.

Yet it is written

Jer.36.3 - Perhaps the people of Judah will repent if they see in writing all the terrible things I have planned for them. Then I will be able to forgive their sins and wrongdoings."

Luke.17.3-4 - I am warning you! If another believer sins, rebuke him; then if he repents, forgive him. If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him."

Luke.24.47 - With my authority, take this message of repentance to all the nations, beginning in Jerusalem: 'There is forgiveness of sins for all who turn to me.'

Luke.3.3 - He went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

Acts.2.38 - Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts.8.22 - Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord. Perhaps he will forgive you for having such a thought in your heart.


There is no forgiveness without repentance.

Emusan:
Yet you couldn't support your statement with just single verse from God's word.

Should we then take your mere word as fact over God's word?

you shouldn't but then what stopped you from accepting those statements backed up by God's word.

John.17.3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Mark.12.32 The teacher of religious law replied, "Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth by saying that there is only one God and no other.


would you not look for another excuse to reject the truth? That there is only one God and that Jesus is the son of God, whom God brought to life and says, this is my son and I am his Father.

Preciousgirl:
Why did Jesus weep?

John 11:35
Jesus wept.


What made The Lord weep?

because he is human, do human not weep when loved ones are in pain

Julia25:
This is more befitting because if one suggests God created wisdom, except in the form as "wisdom originated from God", then it is completely wrong. A transcendental being such as God is immutable, hence He doesn't change!

If He acquired or created wisdom then He was foolish earlier, which now begs the question which Gabrielshow24 has posed, "how did he attain wisdom when he is foolish? " Note the use of "is" since he is eternally present. Hence it becomes impossible for him to acquire or create wisdom since he is foolish!

The orthodox view is what you have surmised above! God is wisdom. The owner of the thread is wrong on that footing.

I am wrong because you decided that creation and origin are two different things?

Well done

The first true worshipper of God, is the son of God. The first one to sing God's praises the true heavenly choir leader Jesus the son of God

Happy Sunday, don't forget your church cleaners today o

Lol if ebuka songs sees this one now I wonder what he would say

Peacecore:
Hello, guys!

It's become a norm in our societies today seeing pastors, evangelists, and upcoming Xtian brothers and sisters preaching along the roads, in the markets, in parks etc. I have also noticed that less or no individual listens to their preaching because of busy schedules.

My question is; is it really necessary? Does it serve the purpose it's intended?
What's your take on this?

what's "our" take? If you really cared why not ask those directly involved in those evangelism instead of asking the general public.

You noticed? How did you notice, did you stand and watch or you were passing by?

OBAJESU:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3YWZm5Ac9c



https://newtelegraphng.com/only-godll-choose-my-successor-not-human-pressure-kumuyi/

they should know he is stubborn from his days of no TV, but what does having a successor have to do with controlling him? Well he is one of the fakes anyway

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phosky:
https://eyesoflagos.com/sunday-fashion-in-lagos-why-church-is-the-real-runway/

the real runway of how a decent child of God should dress and appear even though it's about our inward hearts. At least it's or should be a runway for decent and moderate dressing that shows the difference between a worldly ungodly and immoral world and runway from one that isn't sexually implicit in it's appearance but glorifies God.

braveboi4life:
My 6year old told my wife, mummy why do you always wear heavy make up to church, don't you know Sundays are for Jesus, I use style Caution her, but the thing sweet me die

lol even a child knows the truth but can't blame women, pastors say dress the way you want to be address abi

I heard a phrase, "God works in mysterious ways" I know I have heard such phrase before but this time I questioned the authenticity of the phrase, because I have read and remember that it is written

Amos.3.7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.

And that's true, God didn't flood the world without telling Noah, God didn't send fire down without telling Abraham and other examples of things others may find "mysterious and strange". God doesn't have to hide to do something, even if the devil knows he cannot stop God's word and will, I don't see a reason for God to hide what he does other than that it is us who are not seeing what God is doing. The basis of Jesus's ministry is doing what he saw God do, and if says we will do greater doesn't that mean our eyes will also be open to see what God is doing?

If God is "mysterious to you" please listen to what Jesus said in Matt.13.11 Then he explained to them, "You have been permitted to understand the secrets(the mysteries) of the Kingdom of Heaven, but others have not.

The very purpose of the word of God, the purpose why Jesus came, is to reveal to us, the reason we receive the Holy Spirit is to hear God's word, to receive God's revelation.

I decided to do an AI/google check if the phrase "God works in mysterious ways" is in the Bible because it contradicts that the Bible teaches that God works in a revealed way for us to see, believe and follow Him.

The phrase "God works in mysterious ways" is not a direct quote from the Bible, though the sentiment is reflected in several passages. The closest biblical reference is Isaiah 55:8-9, which states that God's thoughts and ways are higher than human thoughts and ways. The popular phrase is believed to have originated from William Cowper's 1773 hymn, "Light Shining out of Darkness," which contains the line "God moves in a mysterious way".

We see that the origin is from a song, a hymn and not from the scripture, it's like that song let the poor say I am rich, I remember reading Joel.3.10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears. Let the weakling say, "I am strong!" (NIV)

And asking myself, okay, so where is the let the poor say they are rich?

It goes to show how biblical incorrect songs can shape the mindset of some believers. Note it's not bad to say you are rich because of what God our Father has done by sending Jesus to us, in whom we have every spiritual blessing, but without properly understanding and application of the world of God, such phrases are taken wrongly and used wrongly.

Can you think of a phrase that's common but not biblical like, "heaven helps those who help themselves"?



Isa.55.8-9 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

The context is based on God's mercy, which we humans don't think as mercifully as God does, if any mystery was involved then it was the plan which was revealed at the coming of Jesus whom God sent and accomplished God's purpose of mercy towards us.

Note Paul wrote, 1Cor.2.16 How could they? For, "Who can know what the Lord is thinking? Who can give him counsel?" But we can understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ.

Please do not be content with not seeing God move or not knowing what God will do. They that know their God.... For this is eternal life, that they come to know you the one true God.

Happy Sunday children of God, and have a great week ahead in Jesus name. Amen

tobstarizhia:
How many things have you Nigerians built. You use things built by scientists and then reason on the basis of faith. Ridiculous

how are you not a Nigerian claiming to know about Nigerians? Are you being pretentious now

blueghost:
Except you are just looking for arguments or engagements , if you read what i wrote slowly it is explanatory and answers your questions you are asking

"God told moses in the bible to teach your children the law bind it on your door post and wrist but unfortunately we are on steep decline."

"Most children are on the fast lane and feel they know it all, they won't even blink to disrespect and elder when corrected."

Where is your self explanatory answer to whose fault is it?
Don't bother replying

Dtruthspeaker:
If I was gen z I won't be condemning them. And I seeing how things were getting badder and badder and how our parents were always saying that there generation was good so, I knew that it was only a matter of time that the prophecy would be fulfilled.

And so I teach and raise my kids in the 1980 way eg my kids both boys and girls already cleaned the compound, washed their clothes and my cars and cooked even from primary school. And I have taught and shown them how sex kils and destroys their lives by making them Caused using even their own mates and peers. And I they saw that my prediction happened. So I thankful to God that my plan to separate them from the many is working

good so you see that not all those born in that generation are bad because they had good parents as well. 👍🏾 👍🏾

Node911:
When you question christianity, you’d see all the lies and manipulation. Whatever my forefathers did in their time is enough for me and there should be room for improvement where need be.

it's okay to see the lies and manipulations of men, the question is what does that bring you to? Does it bring you to the truth or to a different kind of lie.

What your forefathers did has a foundation to it, that you also need to learn about and know, can you actually improve on something you also don't understand, if you ask questions to understand you would learn, at least the origin and the goal of something abi

You really want to become a Levite and collect tithe, then become a full time cleaner in God's house at 25yrs or even 30, and be prepared to serve faithfully till you are 50, help watch over the house of God, keep it clean and tidy.

Node911:
Everything has to be questioned. That’s how the world innovate.

the world innovates from what exists and by us accepting what exists. If you don't accept that there is sand and there are rocks and ask questions based on that acceptance to learn but instead question it, how do you learn how to use it or innovate something like cement or concrete.

Look bro our predecessors would not have gotten anywhere if all they did was question everything without learning anything

WantsandMore:
I used AI to expand your thoughts and its beautiful because it touches on a very practical and profound aspect of child upbringing in contemporary times

You’re referencing a powerful theme in **Judges 2** and connecting it to **Deuteronomy’s commands** (like Deut. 6:6-9) about teaching children God’s ways. Here’s the breakdown:

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### **1. The Key Passage in Judges 2**
**"And there arose another generation after them who did not know the LORD or the work that He had done for Israel."** (Judges 2:10, ESV)

- **Context:** After Joshua’s generation died, Israel **failed to pass down faith** to their children.
- **Result:** They abandoned God, worshipped idols, and moral decay followed (Judges 2:11-19).
- **Cycle:** Sin → Judgment → Repentance → Deliverance (repeated endlessly).

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### **2. Connection to Deuteronomy’s Command**
God had warned this would happen if parents neglected spiritual teaching:
- **"Teach [My words] diligently to your children... Bind them on your hand and foreheads, write them on your doorposts."** (Deuteronomy 6:7-9, paraphrased).
- **Judges 2 proves the consequence of ignoring this.**

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### **3. Relevance Today**
- **Moral Shift:** Like Israel, we see **what was once "abnormal" (sin) normalized** (e.g., greed, sexual immorality, relativism).
- **Cause:** Many parents/churches **prioritize academics, sports, or careers over discipleship**.
- **Result:** A generation that doesn’t "know the LORD" (Judges 2:10) drifts into cultural compromise.

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### **4. The Solution (Then and Now)**
- **Intentional Teaching:** Like Deuteronomy 6, we must **model + teach truth daily** (not just Sundays).
- **Counter-Cultural Living:** Israel failed by **absorbing pagan values** (Judges 2:12). Christians must guard against this (Romans 12:2).
- **Hope:** God still raises up "deliverers" (Judges 2:16)—reminding us **revival starts with faithful families/churches**.

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### **🔍 Modern Application Questions:**
- **For Parents:** Are God’s truths as visible in your home as a "doorpost" (Deut. 6:9)?
- **For the Church:** Are we equipping parents or outsourcing discipleship?
- **For Society:** Will we repeat Judges 2’s cycle or break it through obedience?

**Judges 2 is a warning—but Deuteronomy 6 is the roadmap back.** Let’s teach the next generation *before* they forget (Psalm 78:4-7).

so before the generation that did not know God, there came a generation that felt their knowledge of God wasn't worth passing it on.

So before an immoral generation is one that doesn't value or disliked discipline and hated it, so they didn't pass it on and saw the repercussions of their decisions too hate.

I love this question, "Are we equipping parents or outsourcing discipleship?"

When we outsource to people who care more about money and what they earn than the future of the child what becomes of that child. There used to be federal schools or places where the community raises a child with discipline but sadly such isn't common today. Parents are even looking for places where there children wouldn't be shouted at or rebuked.

I have never meet a good child that said, I have never been beaten or rebuked, those who feel they never were and are good can't face discipline or corrections for the things they do wrong some wrong with a self righteous mindset, or justify whatever they do.

Parents are not been trained and taught to raised Godly children, many that are learning on the job are not learning from their parents because they have issues with them, a man too proud to ask his father for advise, a woman who won't forgive her parents for how they treated her won't even listen to elderly counsel on raising children. They all assume they know it till they ruin it

Node911:
Asking questions is enough to know it’s all lies.

They ask questions and it’s against the doctrine of all religion.

asking question to learn is different from questioning everything, is that not so