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Emusan:
Yet you couldn't provide the said God's word to back your claim.



Are these the scriptures that says God CREATED Jesus to be His exact image?




Do Trinitarians ever told you that there's are TWO/THREE ONLY GODS Or you didn't know that Trinitarians also agreed that there's ONLY ONE GOD?

accusing me falsely doesn't change the truth available and evidence provided but you can continue doing what you are good at 👍🏾

It's like some haven't learnt from Rome and Roman catholic history what happens when one weaponizes or puts guns in the than hands of priests and make it more political. When you marry church and state, you don't get the kingdom of God, you get men wrapped in ambitious now given the power to do what they want "in the name of God". Even so called Muslim states are examples of how ruthless religious leadership can be.


In all honesty that's the kind of state that the antichrist thrives in, rules over and is celebrated.

Should pastors be involved in politics, well when Paul wrote the criteria for being an overseer, deacon and pastor, politics wasn't stated. God isn't democratic and the basis and foundation of politics is different from God's kingdom, those states are going to be destroyed by Jesus not ruled by him, destroyed and God's kingdom established. You cannot be UNEQUALLY yoked.

As pastors your message and word to politicians is to be truthful, honest and faithful but those who know politics know that there's a level of dishonest lies and deception they employ to agree with those who are selfish and wicked. The genuine believers who are politicians are suffering from the corrupted view and ideologies of men. So if a pastor wants to be a politician he must be prepared for war or be prepared to be UNEQUALLY yoked with them.

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I am always in church the body of Christ where every child of God is 😊

When I look at the statement "forgiveness without repentance", I ask myself, why do some teach such? What is the basis such is being taught?

You may have heard some say, 'well you can't repent of all you have done', 'like how many can you even remember', 'God doesn't wait for you to say sorry before he forgives you that's how much he loves you', 'like what kind of father wants his child to keep apologizing for what he has forgiven them for'.
Which are all a lot of well sounding logic to make people accept that forgiveness can be gotten without repentance.

Infact at times if you don't forgive a person who hasn't repented or asked for forgiveness you are seen as the bad guy.

Yet it is written

Jer.36.3 - Perhaps the people of Judah will repent if they see in writing all the terrible things I have planned for them. Then I will be able to forgive their sins and wrongdoings."

Luke.17.3-4 - I am warning you! If another believer sins, rebuke him; then if he repents, forgive him. If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him."

Luke.24.47 - With my authority, take this message of repentance to all the nations, beginning in Jerusalem: 'There is forgiveness of sins for all who turn to me.'

Luke.3.3 - He went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

Acts.2.38 - Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts.8.22 - Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord. Perhaps he will forgive you for having such a thought in your heart.


There is no forgiveness without repentance.

Emusan:
Yet you couldn't support your statement with just single verse from God's word.

Should we then take your mere word as fact over God's word?

you shouldn't but then what stopped you from accepting those statements backed up by God's word.

John.17.3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Mark.12.32 The teacher of religious law replied, "Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth by saying that there is only one God and no other.


would you not look for another excuse to reject the truth? That there is only one God and that Jesus is the son of God, whom God brought to life and says, this is my son and I am his Father.

Preciousgirl:
Why did Jesus weep?

John 11:35
Jesus wept.


What made The Lord weep?

because he is human, do human not weep when loved ones are in pain

Julia25:
This is more befitting because if one suggests God created wisdom, except in the form as "wisdom originated from God", then it is completely wrong. A transcendental being such as God is immutable, hence He doesn't change!

If He acquired or created wisdom then He was foolish earlier, which now begs the question which Gabrielshow24 has posed, "how did he attain wisdom when he is foolish? " Note the use of "is" since he is eternally present. Hence it becomes impossible for him to acquire or create wisdom since he is foolish!

The orthodox view is what you have surmised above! God is wisdom. The owner of the thread is wrong on that footing.

I am wrong because you decided that creation and origin are two different things?

Well done

The first true worshipper of God, is the son of God. The first one to sing God's praises the true heavenly choir leader Jesus the son of God

Happy Sunday, don't forget your church cleaners today o

Lol if ebuka songs sees this one now I wonder what he would say

Peacecore:
Hello, guys!

It's become a norm in our societies today seeing pastors, evangelists, and upcoming Xtian brothers and sisters preaching along the roads, in the markets, in parks etc. I have also noticed that less or no individual listens to their preaching because of busy schedules.

My question is; is it really necessary? Does it serve the purpose it's intended?
What's your take on this?

what's "our" take? If you really cared why not ask those directly involved in those evangelism instead of asking the general public.

You noticed? How did you notice, did you stand and watch or you were passing by?

OBAJESU:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3YWZm5Ac9c



https://newtelegraphng.com/only-godll-choose-my-successor-not-human-pressure-kumuyi/

they should know he is stubborn from his days of no TV, but what does having a successor have to do with controlling him? Well he is one of the fakes anyway

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phosky:
https://eyesoflagos.com/sunday-fashion-in-lagos-why-church-is-the-real-runway/

the real runway of how a decent child of God should dress and appear even though it's about our inward hearts. At least it's or should be a runway for decent and moderate dressing that shows the difference between a worldly ungodly and immoral world and runway from one that isn't sexually implicit in it's appearance but glorifies God.

braveboi4life:
My 6year old told my wife, mummy why do you always wear heavy make up to church, don't you know Sundays are for Jesus, I use style Caution her, but the thing sweet me die

lol even a child knows the truth but can't blame women, pastors say dress the way you want to be address abi

I heard a phrase, "God works in mysterious ways" I know I have heard such phrase before but this time I questioned the authenticity of the phrase, because I have read and remember that it is written

Amos.3.7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.

And that's true, God didn't flood the world without telling Noah, God didn't send fire down without telling Abraham and other examples of things others may find "mysterious and strange". God doesn't have to hide to do something, even if the devil knows he cannot stop God's word and will, I don't see a reason for God to hide what he does other than that it is us who are not seeing what God is doing. The basis of Jesus's ministry is doing what he saw God do, and if says we will do greater doesn't that mean our eyes will also be open to see what God is doing?

If God is "mysterious to you" please listen to what Jesus said in Matt.13.11 Then he explained to them, "You have been permitted to understand the secrets(the mysteries) of the Kingdom of Heaven, but others have not.

The very purpose of the word of God, the purpose why Jesus came, is to reveal to us, the reason we receive the Holy Spirit is to hear God's word, to receive God's revelation.

I decided to do an AI/google check if the phrase "God works in mysterious ways" is in the Bible because it contradicts that the Bible teaches that God works in a revealed way for us to see, believe and follow Him.

The phrase "God works in mysterious ways" is not a direct quote from the Bible, though the sentiment is reflected in several passages. The closest biblical reference is Isaiah 55:8-9, which states that God's thoughts and ways are higher than human thoughts and ways. The popular phrase is believed to have originated from William Cowper's 1773 hymn, "Light Shining out of Darkness," which contains the line "God moves in a mysterious way".

We see that the origin is from a song, a hymn and not from the scripture, it's like that song let the poor say I am rich, I remember reading Joel.3.10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears. Let the weakling say, "I am strong!" (NIV)

And asking myself, okay, so where is the let the poor say they are rich?

It goes to show how biblical incorrect songs can shape the mindset of some believers. Note it's not bad to say you are rich because of what God our Father has done by sending Jesus to us, in whom we have every spiritual blessing, but without properly understanding and application of the world of God, such phrases are taken wrongly and used wrongly.

Can you think of a phrase that's common but not biblical like, "heaven helps those who help themselves"?



Isa.55.8-9 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

The context is based on God's mercy, which we humans don't think as mercifully as God does, if any mystery was involved then it was the plan which was revealed at the coming of Jesus whom God sent and accomplished God's purpose of mercy towards us.

Note Paul wrote, 1Cor.2.16 How could they? For, "Who can know what the Lord is thinking? Who can give him counsel?" But we can understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ.

Please do not be content with not seeing God move or not knowing what God will do. They that know their God.... For this is eternal life, that they come to know you the one true God.

Happy Sunday children of God, and have a great week ahead in Jesus name. Amen

tobstarizhia:
How many things have you Nigerians built. You use things built by scientists and then reason on the basis of faith. Ridiculous

how are you not a Nigerian claiming to know about Nigerians? Are you being pretentious now

blueghost:
Except you are just looking for arguments or engagements , if you read what i wrote slowly it is explanatory and answers your questions you are asking

"God told moses in the bible to teach your children the law bind it on your door post and wrist but unfortunately we are on steep decline."

"Most children are on the fast lane and feel they know it all, they won't even blink to disrespect and elder when corrected."

Where is your self explanatory answer to whose fault is it?
Don't bother replying

Dtruthspeaker:
If I was gen z I won't be condemning them. And I seeing how things were getting badder and badder and how our parents were always saying that there generation was good so, I knew that it was only a matter of time that the prophecy would be fulfilled.

And so I teach and raise my kids in the 1980 way eg my kids both boys and girls already cleaned the compound, washed their clothes and my cars and cooked even from primary school. And I have taught and shown them how sex kils and destroys their lives by making them Caused using even their own mates and peers. And I they saw that my prediction happened. So I thankful to God that my plan to separate them from the many is working

good so you see that not all those born in that generation are bad because they had good parents as well. 👍🏾 👍🏾

Node911:
When you question christianity, you’d see all the lies and manipulation. Whatever my forefathers did in their time is enough for me and there should be room for improvement where need be.

it's okay to see the lies and manipulations of men, the question is what does that bring you to? Does it bring you to the truth or to a different kind of lie.

What your forefathers did has a foundation to it, that you also need to learn about and know, can you actually improve on something you also don't understand, if you ask questions to understand you would learn, at least the origin and the goal of something abi

You really want to become a Levite and collect tithe, then become a full time cleaner in God's house at 25yrs or even 30, and be prepared to serve faithfully till you are 50, help watch over the house of God, keep it clean and tidy.

Node911:
Everything has to be questioned. That’s how the world innovate.

the world innovates from what exists and by us accepting what exists. If you don't accept that there is sand and there are rocks and ask questions based on that acceptance to learn but instead question it, how do you learn how to use it or innovate something like cement or concrete.

Look bro our predecessors would not have gotten anywhere if all they did was question everything without learning anything

WantsandMore:
I used AI to expand your thoughts and its beautiful because it touches on a very practical and profound aspect of child upbringing in contemporary times

You’re referencing a powerful theme in **Judges 2** and connecting it to **Deuteronomy’s commands** (like Deut. 6:6-9) about teaching children God’s ways. Here’s the breakdown:

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### **1. The Key Passage in Judges 2**
**"And there arose another generation after them who did not know the LORD or the work that He had done for Israel."** (Judges 2:10, ESV)

- **Context:** After Joshua’s generation died, Israel **failed to pass down faith** to their children.
- **Result:** They abandoned God, worshipped idols, and moral decay followed (Judges 2:11-19).
- **Cycle:** Sin → Judgment → Repentance → Deliverance (repeated endlessly).

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### **2. Connection to Deuteronomy’s Command**
God had warned this would happen if parents neglected spiritual teaching:
- **"Teach [My words] diligently to your children... Bind them on your hand and foreheads, write them on your doorposts."** (Deuteronomy 6:7-9, paraphrased).
- **Judges 2 proves the consequence of ignoring this.**

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### **3. Relevance Today**
- **Moral Shift:** Like Israel, we see **what was once "abnormal" (sin) normalized** (e.g., greed, sexual immorality, relativism).
- **Cause:** Many parents/churches **prioritize academics, sports, or careers over discipleship**.
- **Result:** A generation that doesn’t "know the LORD" (Judges 2:10) drifts into cultural compromise.

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### **4. The Solution (Then and Now)**
- **Intentional Teaching:** Like Deuteronomy 6, we must **model + teach truth daily** (not just Sundays).
- **Counter-Cultural Living:** Israel failed by **absorbing pagan values** (Judges 2:12). Christians must guard against this (Romans 12:2).
- **Hope:** God still raises up "deliverers" (Judges 2:16)—reminding us **revival starts with faithful families/churches**.

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### **🔍 Modern Application Questions:**
- **For Parents:** Are God’s truths as visible in your home as a "doorpost" (Deut. 6:9)?
- **For the Church:** Are we equipping parents or outsourcing discipleship?
- **For Society:** Will we repeat Judges 2’s cycle or break it through obedience?

**Judges 2 is a warning—but Deuteronomy 6 is the roadmap back.** Let’s teach the next generation *before* they forget (Psalm 78:4-7).

so before the generation that did not know God, there came a generation that felt their knowledge of God wasn't worth passing it on.

So before an immoral generation is one that doesn't value or disliked discipline and hated it, so they didn't pass it on and saw the repercussions of their decisions too hate.

I love this question, "Are we equipping parents or outsourcing discipleship?"

When we outsource to people who care more about money and what they earn than the future of the child what becomes of that child. There used to be federal schools or places where the community raises a child with discipline but sadly such isn't common today. Parents are even looking for places where there children wouldn't be shouted at or rebuked.

I have never meet a good child that said, I have never been beaten or rebuked, those who feel they never were and are good can't face discipline or corrections for the things they do wrong some wrong with a self righteous mindset, or justify whatever they do.

Parents are not been trained and taught to raised Godly children, many that are learning on the job are not learning from their parents because they have issues with them, a man too proud to ask his father for advise, a woman who won't forgive her parents for how they treated her won't even listen to elderly counsel on raising children. They all assume they know it till they ruin it

Node911:
Asking questions is enough to know it’s all lies.

They ask questions and it’s against the doctrine of all religion.

asking question to learn is different from questioning everything, is that not so

blueghost:
Judges 2, I will paraphrase.... And there came a generation that do not know God.
A lot of work need to be done in terms of godly and moral values. What use to be the abnormal is now the norms.
No wonder God told moses in the bible to teach your children the law bind it on your door post and wrist but unfortunately we are on steep decline.
Most children are on the fast lane and feel they know it all, they won't even blink to disrespect and elder when corrected. Social media is their sanctuary and validation.
So much identity crisis, they don't know which road to take or consult with God but rather consult with friends that will lead them astray.
Not just Gen Z but to everyone may God gives us Grace for the Race

so is it the fault of the children the generation or the one before it, their parents, elders and leaders?

When a culture says it's wrong to beat a child, whose fault is it now, is it still the parents fault? Because they agreed to spoil their children.

Most of us wouldn't even support discipline to children and yet we complain about their behavior, like we expect children to train themselves some how or magically become good, we believe they are good, expect them to be good but do little to help and make them good.

Even church discipline is being side track, it's too harsh, many don't even believe God disciplines it's only God does good and pleases us.

Whose fault is it, truly, whose fault is it

Pastorchrisylva:
Because today Christianity is a big lie and a blasphemous Christianity..
They can see through the lies

God said do not worship idols and images..
You people put cross and fake Jesus pictures in churches..
It's a sacrilege and blasphemy...

Pastors that should be servants of God are now living like kings and Lord's...
Jesus Christ always spoke against rich people
Just imagine what pastors are saying on pulpits..
Today Christians are more wicked than jezebel and Satan himself...

They preach tithing , Jesus never collected tithe, disciples never collected tithe..
Tithing is giving only to Levites and Jesus Christ abolished that with his new priesthood..
Now u should give freely according to how you desire

if anyone sees through the lies of the devil, it's not because they are gen z but because Jesus opened their eyes and on their part because they diligently sought the truth, they sought the real Jesus and he opened their eyes

folake4u:
This!

I still have PTSD from the doctrines of my parents' church.

have you gone for treatment? I hope you have though

Dtruthspeaker:
They are the evil generation the bible prophecied was gonna come

I am guessing you don't have children that are gen z or you yourself are not part of the gen z, of either is true then what a strange thing for you to assume

Fox12:
Gen Z & Religion: What's Really Going On?

Gen Z is the most connected generation yet spiritually, many feel disconnected.
More and more young people are saying:
"I’m not religious."
But why?

Let’s unpack it ;

1. Church Hurt & Hypocrisy
Gen Z questions what doesn’t align.
When leaders preach love but practice judgment, they bounce.
They're not leaving God,they're leaving the noise.


2. Information Overload
Gen Z grew up Googling everything.
They’ve seen different beliefs side-by-side and they ask deeper questions.
Blind faith doesn’t work for a generation raised to research.


3. Mental Health Matters
They care about emotional safety.
If a religious space triggers shame more than healing, they won’t stay.
They want faith that listens, not just lectures.


4. Authenticity Over Tradition
Gen Z doesn’t care about appearances,they crave realness.
If faith feels scripted or outdated, they’d rather pass.


5. Spiritual but Not Religious
Many aren’t atheist,they just don’t vibe with the labels.
They pray. They believe. But they want a personal relationship, not just performance.

So is Gen Z faithless? No.
They’re just tired of performative religion.
They’re seeking real connection with God, with meaning, with truth.

Maybe the church doesn’t need to be louder.
Maybe it needs to be more honest.
More human. More healing.

What’s your take?
Is Gen Z really unreligious or just reshaping what faith looks like?

it's good to seek answers but they should be turning to the Holy Spirit for answers though

If not they won't be different from the generations before them, the devil deceives every generation regardless of modern innovations

cutecommend:
There are miracles today, but in the time of old, the miracles were profound, deep, convincing, real, raw and powerful. Even several sinners could not doubt it because it was real. But today, the miracle power is not as visible as before, though God is still the same. In the time of old, if Christians wanted someone without a leg to have legs appear, they could pray to God and God can bring new legs. An Apostle like Ayo Babalola could suspend on the air. He could disappear. And if you talk of genuine salvation, when people get saved those days, the salvation was so real that sinners could possibly see clearly that such a person is born again in character, lifestyle, dressing e.t.c.

Why the church no longer experience miracles as before.

(1) Lack of Emphasis on Rapture: The more the church lose interest in the world and is eager to leave this world and meet Jesus, the more Jesus brings His power to the world.

(2) Lack of Prayers: The church does not pray much as before, and several prayerful people are living in sin.

(3) Lack of Holiness: If the church does not live holy, the power of God will not be much or may not come.

(4) Lack of Bible Study and Sound Doctrine: Not sermons on vision, goals, purpose e.t.c, but gospel of righteousness, evangelism, prayers, love, fruits of the Spirit, Bible study e.t.c

(5) Lack of Deep Evangelism: If the church wants power, it should also engage in massive and deep evangelism with followup and discipleship.

It is a beautiful Sunday with another chance, tell Jesus to forgive all your sins and come into your life today.

Happy Sunday to you.

even with the presence of all this you listed from one to five, it wouldn't make new legs grow every Sunday though

God will do what He wants to do when He wants to, for the purpose of drawing men to Him and be glorified, for all glory belongs to God

Lol typical Sunday morning front page, lovely songs though even those that have left the church would remember them and feel nostalgic

Even the catholics cannot explain scripturally or by the Holy Spirit why the change of God's 10 divine commands that even Jesus taught