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GanagiBitrus:
-ISLAM
-CHRISTIANITY
-OTHER BELIEFS

...should suffice.

Seun Pls do the needful. This is unacceptable...

it's like male and female bathrooms, you have to treat those who are sensitive specially 😊

Maitunbi:
He acknowledges and asks for forgiveness. Saul was more interested in looking good in the presence of the people

ya that's one valid point

Expanse2020:
Isaac bawo....
Forget the distorted you carry up and down Jare..

Na Iṣmaeli

You cooked whatever is in line of your religion no dispute..
And we do what in line in my religion.
No argument about that right

okay sorry so God replaced ismaeli with a ram. It is for us to understand the appreciation, oh God thank you for replacing ismaeli with a ram?

AntiChristian:
No one is calling any scripture a lie. What we are saying is that what you have today is not the originals. The originals are all lost. And this copy is far from the real scriptures!

The Bible did confirm the Injeel, the Torah, Zabur and others given to previous Prophets! But they were not preserved!

if you are not calling the scriptures a lie, then you are calling them true. Or are you trying to confuse us?

If they were not preserved as you wrote how come the Jews have the Tanakh recorded continually by generations of scribes. You are speaking of a tribe that had people in the courts of world emperors and leaders and able to preserve their text through time, because God gave them that privilege. But you claim it was not preserved? Do you think everyone is that gullible?

Mom007:
I understand your pain. It is because you dont know your ancestry. What if I told you that the original Jews of the bible were black? Yes. The bible is literally a book of your ancestry!

Search out 'School of the Hebrews' on YouTube, you will find teachings and historical facts about the ancestry of the Jews, supported by the bible. Invest time and data in seeking knowledge. Even the recent photographs of Jesus released by the Russian president from their archives shows a black Jesus. The matter is long and the conspiracy is deep. ' My people perish for lack of knowledge '. Na so bible talk am. Stop being bitter and seek to understand.

are you part of those black Hebrew israelite movement that believes God is only going to save them and make whites aka gentiles their slaves

Expanse2020:
showing of appreciation to God..
After he tested our great father of faith and he replaced his son with a white Ram..
So we sacrifice for him through feeding people around us

appreciation for?
Is it for God sparing Isaac?

Okay the sacrifice is just to feed people around, even if we cook beans and give others it's in line right?

Wait tenq are you saying that Arabic scholars changed the meaning of "al"?

You wrote a question and I quote: "So, why is the double standards in grammar?
What are your scholars trying to hide from you?"


While Google AI says Arabic didn't not originate from Aramaic, are using the basis that in old Arabic al meant God but they changed it to mean "the"

Another question then is, what is the old Arabic meaning for lah.. could you share a source and link

JimRohn:
1. "Who is Isa? We don’t know him!"

That is a deficiency in your own theological framework, not in the Qur’an. Isa (peace be upon him) is the Arabic name for Jesus, son of Mary—the same historical figure revered in Christianity. The difference lies in the Islamic understanding: we reject any claim of divinity assigned to him, as it contradicts the absolute oneness of God. If you claim not to "know him," then you deny your own Scriptures that speak of him.



honesttalk21 BibleInterpreta AntiChristian TenQ CreativeOrbit gofh

jimrohn be honest like you assume yourself to be and tell us what does the name Jesus, which is Isa in Arabic, mean?

Just the way you wrote the meaning for Gabriel and Jubril, please tell us truthfully what does Jesus mean?

I wonder if the mods that push topics out on sunday even understands the word of God lol and if they are believers because their choices for front page at times are 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

KaLuCh:
Of course! Jesus didn't even care about people's religious affiliations. He preached kingdom, not church. And that is not to take away from local assembling of believers. The church is very important. But the kingdom of God is much bigger than a religion, or a building, or a sect, or any set of rules. The kingdom permeates all of these mostly human constructs. The church of Christ, the Lord's bride is far larger than the Christian family, or what we know as 'church'.

Jews, Muslims, Hindus, etc, we have millions and millions of individuals in these traditions who have come to accept Jesus as God's son, and every single one of them will be in heaven. Man, I have heard stories of individuals like this who are descipling hundreds of other people in the ways of Christ.

God is not as shortsighted as we are, He is not fighting and leading segregations against religious groups that share different views. His focus is people, not groups, and He is reaching them personally everywhere. I see a lot of myopic Christians who think heaven is only for them but we'll all be shocked when we get there and find that God is not as limited as we think.

I'll close with these words of the Lord in John 10:16; "And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd."

I absolutely agree with these words here. Those who love are of God.

shinaola21:
🌺

I rather listen to word of God through radio than go to church,the way those people look at you because you can't pay tithes is really humiliating

lol but there are churches that don't collect tithe where you can relate and love one another, you miss out on such relationships except you have believers who are close friends and you gist and encourage one another

alamoht:
The characteristics you described for moralists are predominantly seen among churchgoers.
Going to church is waste of time.

it's not a waste of time

Jeezuzpick:
Maybe I should help the OP rephrase the question.

Can a person be Born Again, serving God, giving, witnessing, studying the Word, and not feel obligated to attend a particular Church?

This is my own version of the same question, and I'll really love reactions to this.

Yes that's the answer to your rephrased question sir

PeterJamesJohn:
Please don't put Jesus and Mohammed in the same category. Jesus is God

so Jesus is not the way to God anymore but God himself? 👀

immortalcrown:
Someone cannot be a graduate without education.

Let's break it down. Being a moralist is different from being a child of God. You can be a moralist without being guided by religion. But to be a Child of God, you have to know God's principles through religious activities. Below are some of the clear differences.

A moralist will not condemn sex before marriage as long as the sex is consensual and involves only adults, especially if the parties have agreed to marry each other. A child of God will avoid premarital sex even with his fiancée or her fiance, he or she will wait until marriage.

A moralist will do good to fellow humans while lacking the concept of praying to and praising God. A child of God does good to humans and dedicates time to praises and prayers. And this is where worshiping in a congregation is compulsory.

A moralist will support execution of criminals, a child of God will not.

A moralist will want gay people to be killed or excommunicated. A child of God will condemn the act of gay but will not harm gay people, he or she will keep hoping for gay people to repent.

A moralist will support divorce if the marriage is not peaceful. A child of God will not support divorce but will advise for living apart. Living apart is different from divorce.

A moralist will revenge if repeatedly offended, a child of God will keep forgiving.

so church is education and not the Holy spirit. "And Jesus said the church will teach you"? I understand if you say the church is where people learn from those who speak from the Holy Spirit but it's not limited to the four walls is it

ErebeOcoco:
The growing trend common in people these days is, I don't go to church but I am a spiritual person. Some would say I do good and I love God but I don't belong to any church.

Is it possible to love God, do good and not be affiliated to any denomination?

Religious experts, can a man claim to be a child of God without devotion?

you changed it from without church to without devotion, are they the same thing to you?

To answer your questions.

Yes it is possible to love God, do good and not be affiliated to any denomination.

Besides we are one in the body of Christ.

Devotion and church is not what makes one a child of God, it is the children of God that make up the church and body of Christ and those who are devoted and obedient to God are the children of God, not devoted to any religious body or institution but being devoted to the word of God and obeying God.

Those who obey and love God belong to the church and body of Christ.

AntiChristian:
But you guys have never being truthful in the threads created in the islamic section.

You keep mixing falsehood with truth and interpreting Islam with your holy spirit.

look at yourself you think calling others a liar makes one truthful?

Well not surprised the basis of the Quran is to call the Tanakh and Bible a lie for it to be taken as the truth

TenQ:
Have you checked AI for what I wrote?
Languages retain a lot of borrowed words which point to the sources of those words ORIGINALLY before the language morphs.

Ask any Muslim:
What is the name of the creator, they would say Allah!
Ask what is the meaning of Allah?
No Muslim knows the meaning.

The Word "God" in English Language was influenced by the German word "Gott" .
persona" via French)
English word "Common" from Latin "communis"
English word "Frequently" from Latin "frequentare"
English word "War" (from Old French "werre"

Should we throw off history because the meaning of words have changed?

What we do is to acknowledge them!


It is bad for Muslims because the Religion of Adam, Lot, Abraham, Ishmael and Jacob when NEITHER Hebrew NOR Arabic existed is ISLAM and the name of their God is ALLAH.
Thus, we can trace the name of Allah back to the Aramaic sources.
Do you agree with this?

ya I know Allah isn't a name, I have stated that in a post is "Hubal Allah"? Allah seems to refer to a specific deity, why they take it has his name and reject YHVH even though they claim they serve the same God as Israel, we have seen them flatter a number of times.

As much as words can be gotten from other languages, Aramaic is not the source of Arabic combination that produced Allah, they may have turned Aramaic elaha to ilah in Arabic. Even the Aramaic original text doesn't use aleph and lamed El or Al to mean the or a definitive article.

It's like oke in igbo and in Yoruba having two different meaning even though they have similar spelling.

I now checked Google to confirm my understanding of Aramaic

No, the definite article "al-" in Arabic is not directly derived from Aramaic, though both languages are Semitic and share some similarities.

Happy new month everyone and a happy Sunday Nairalanders, we are in June the beginning of the 6th month of 2025 and today is a Sunday, a wonderful day to give God thanks for the months gone by.

For those of us that began the year with resolutions and prophecies, how many can you say have come to pass as we approach half the year. What are you most thankful for, share your testimony and thanksgiving and help encourage someone this Sunday. Encourage someone that the 150 days that has past is just a preparatory stage for you to break forth like an eagle into the skies with new life.

Once again happy new month and happy Sunday. Don't give up, this is june which means joy, so rejoice.

GanagiBitrus:
The problem is that most of these false doctrines are not preached out of genuine mistake & ignorance, but done deliberately to control the minds of followers for selfish & personal gains.

Matter of fact, most worship centres are set up by native doctors & Babalawos repackaged as Prophets & Men of God.

The fact that anybody can wake up & easily start a church has subjected true Christianity to a great deal of corruption so much so that some level of radicalism is needed to restore sanity & normalcy.

Like one sage said "It is easier to wake up a person who is actually sleeping than a person who is pretending to be sleeping"

💯 agree with what's written here.
we shouldn't be expecting those who willingly serve mammon to openly confess and repent without any form of rebuke.

cutecommand let's not pretend like they don't get letters and ignore them, but instead respond to those who they feel are attacking their image which they value more than the truth.

we should call brood of vipers brood of vipers, wolves wolves, hypocrites hypocrites. let's not sugarcoat those who consistently and unrepentantly lie with the word of God misleading people while they themselves do not enter them kingdom of God.

Peter, Paul, John, Jude that's four already rebuke false preachers, prophets, teachers, I feel even James did so as well, and like cutecommand wrote shameless sinners should be rebuked openly.

TenQ:
The use of El-, Al- or IL- for God or Deity is very old and it is from the Aramaic sources as it influences both Hebrew and Arabic languages deeply.

Languages change with time, like
Gay used to mean Happy, but now it means an homosexual man.


Same with El- or Al- or IL-: which used to mean God or Deity BUT later became the definite Article similar to "the" in English.

You can confirm this with AI Chatbot and let me know.

you're using a previous definition? Imagine if I ask you, oh are you gay because of what happened?

So are you saying God values what he put in us or what he gave us above us?

You wrote
"Anytime you allow people to think of you as the treasure, God is not pleased, and you’re setting yourself up to fail."

So please tell us are we less valuable than the treasure God has given?

Do you truly believe all God does is to use people, "Let’s face it; God uses people..."

To share testimony by being truthful, for also our word of testimony by the spirit of prophecy is our testimony about Jesus.

Did David keep the commandments more than Saul?

What commandments did Saul break?

David a man after God's heart because he was broken hearted and merciful.

Do you know how many times David broke the laws of Moses?

They are one. Stop hating on our pastor and his wife, she shows humility and submission following her husband's example stop painting it in bad light. They are getting fit for each other.

MrPresident1:
Get busy with what?

See IQ smh. Get busy labouring and slaving under the roman yoke, I see that's what you mean

stop making sounds by shaking your head and use it properly

TenQ:
I wish it was true that AL- or El- is solely the definite article BUT it isn't. Modern Semitic languages now use it either as a definite article equivalent to "the" in English but as a sign of RESPECT.

El- or Al- or Il means God or Deity in the Old Semitic Languages

So,
Al-LAH would mean God-LAH
Al-Manat would mean God-Manat
Al-Uzah would mean God-Uzah
Al-Lat would mean God-Lat




If you doubt this, I respectfully ask you to tell me the meaning of the following names.
Ishma-el or Isma-il
Gabri-el or Jubra-il
Isra-el or Isra-il


Just be truthful to yourself!
Peace!

what is simple written there is that in Arabic al means THE

But in Hebrew el means GOD

Hebrew and Arabic are two different languages

So if you are saying that the Arabic form of El is il, is still agrees with what AI showed that ilah is God and al is the, making Allah to mean the God.

Now: In Arabic, "al-" is the definite article, meaning "the." When combined with "ilah" (meaning "god", it forms "al-ilah," which is the source of the word "Allah." So, while "al-" doesn't mean "God" on its own, it plays a crucial role in forming the Arabic word for God, which is "Allah," meaning "The God".

Maybe some use Al as a shorten form of Allah, 🤷🏾‍♂️, but names like Alisha, Aliyah even Ali doesn't mean my God like how Eli means my God in Hebrew.

Allah isn't even an Arabic form of Elohim, because they mean different things, for instance Elohim is the commonly used term which can singular as eloah and in Hebrew ah, ha (hey) is used to state a definite term, the.


I may not know Arabic as you do but I can tell you a bit about Hebrew. What I wrote here about Arabic is from Google.

honesttalk21:
You use Hebrew to interpret Arabic? Now that is genius in reverse isn't it?

The term Al-ilah (ٱلْإِلَٰه) translates to "the god" in Arabic.

Breaking it down:
"Ilah" (إِلَٰه) means god or deity, while "Al-" serves as the definite article "the."

So, when you put it all together, "al-ilah" means "the god."

On the other hand, "Allah" (الله) is the specific name for the One Supreme God in Islam. It's not just a general term for "god"; it's the unique name for the singular, transcendent deity.


(ٱلْإِلَٰه) Is different from (الله) so your theory is totally opposite to smart.

that was from Google AI. Gosh you are something else, do you realize you don't even have a single point that contradicts what I wrote and what's with using Hebrew, is that what you understood there. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

MrPresident1:
Every Christian is called to be an OCCUPIER (a Jihadist) anywhere and everywhere they find themselves, to resist Rome and its influences everywhere on the face of this earth

Luke 19:12-13
King James Version
12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

Every Christian, professing Christian, born again christian, unborn again Christian, you are part of the ten servants, the number ten is a completion

You are ordered to OCCUPY TILL I COME! Rule, dominate, overtake, struggle, takeover till I come

occupy means get busy and not what you wrote.

In Arabic, "lāh" is part of the word "Allāh," which is the standard Arabic word for God. It is used by Muslims, Christians, and Jews who speak Arabic. The word is thought to be derived from the Arabic article "al-" and "ʾilāh," meaning "god" or "deity," creating "al-lāh," which translates to "the God".


So while in Hebrew el means God
In Arabic al is used for definite article, meaning the. Allah is the God

AntiChristian:
No, Jesus was not sent to Muslims!
Jesus is a messenger. A messenger is sent to a disbelieveing people to make them Muslims submitting to Allah's worship alone. Just like Noah, Moses, Abraham and Muhammad.

Open your Medulla Oblongata!

so Jesus was sent to unbelievers while Muhammad was sent to believers abi? 😂

Okay so everyone who believes in Jesus is a Muslim right or wrong?

AntiChristian:
So even if it's a minority sect are they no more Jews again?

Allah accused the Jews and Christians of taking their Monks Rabbi and Jesus as lord!

What about the Rabbis and Monks? Why did you omit them?

should we apply that same logic and level of accusations to muslims 😏

Maybe make a book and religion out of it