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As we celebrate the heads and leaders of our various homes today, let us read some of the things that makes us a godly father from the bible.


1. A trustworthy leader who is responsible for the upbringing of his children:

Gen.18.19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.

Joshua 24:15b as for me and my house we will serve the Lord

Deut.6.7 You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up.

Prov.22.6 Teach your children to choose the right path, and when they are older, they will remain upon it.


2. Teach his children to be respectful and obedient

1Tim.3.4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. (NIV)

Titus.1.6 An elder must be well thought of for his good life. He must be faithful to his wife, and his children must be believers who are not wild or rebellious.

Jer.35.6 But they replied, "We do not drink wine, because our forefather Jonadab son of Recab gave us this command: 'Neither you nor your descendants must ever drink wine....
Jer.35.8 We have obeyed everything our forefather Jonadab son of Recab commanded us. Neither we nor our wives nor our sons and daughters have ever drunk wine....

Prov.13.24 If you refuse to discipline your children, it proves you don't love them; if you love your children, you will be prompt to discipline them.

Prov.4.1 Listen, my sons, to a father's instruction; pay attention and gain understanding. 4 My father told me, "Take my words to heart. Follow my instructions and you will live.

3. Provide for his home and family

1Tim.5.8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Matt.7.9 You parents--if your children ask for a loaf of bread, do you give them a stone instead?.. NO


4. In training should not provoke his children astray nor drive them into sin

Eph.6.4 And now a word to you fathers. Don't make your children angry by the way you treat them. Rather, bring them up with the discipline and instruction approved by the Lord.

Col.3.21 Parents, don't come down too hard on your children or you'll crush their spirits.

Lev.19.29 "'Do not degrade your daughter by making her a prostitute, or the land will turn to prostitution and be filled with wickedness.


5. A father should be forgiving
Luke 15:11-32 the Father welcomes back his repentant son

Mal.4.6 He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse."

6. A Father should be encouraging
1Thess.2.11 - 12
And you know that we treated each of you as a father treats his own children. We pleaded with you, encouraged you, and urged you to live your lives in a way that God would consider worthy. For he called you into his Kingdom to share his glory.


7. A father should pray and bless his children

1Tim.2.8 I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing.

Num.6.24 - 26
`May the LORD bless you and protect you. May the LORD smile on you and be gracious to you. May the LORD show you his favor and give you his peace.'

Gen.49.26 Your father's blessings are greater than the blessings of the ancient mountains, than the bounty of the age-old hills. Let all these rest on the head of Joseph, on the brow of the prince among his brothers.



God bless all fathers who follow after our heavenly Father. Happy Father's day 💐

geunik:
I thought on nairaland, one of the section was religion. What i am seeing is Christianity etc and Islam

Anyway back to the matter. lets see what they will all say tomorrow including thise that saw this olan crash in 2010 and those that saw it coming tomorrow

typical mods nothing else to push to front page on Sunday morning, you mock the rest of those who actually make posts worth reading on that section

AntiChristian:
There's no verse for Jesus or any of his disciples chasing their wives?

Everything erotic goes to Proverbs and Solomon!

And Solomon had 300 wives and 700 concubines!

and what is your point? ...............................

At least Christians are modest to talk about relationship between two adults a male and a female that has fully developed

honesttalk21:
Gen 4:26 as most parts of Genesis is said to be written by Moses and the event in Gen 4:26 happened fairly well before Moses was.

I don't succumb to Allah being same as YHVH as this will limit the uniqueness of Allah.



Allah simply means the one and only God..

Allah is the unique, eternal, and all-powerful being who created and oversees everything

so your answer is no Allah is not YHVH, and your explanation is because that would be you succumbing and limiting Allah, basically put you are also claiming that Allah is greater than YHVH the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that Israel say they worship according to the bible.

Ken4Christ:
Giving is accepted according to your faith. We are still growing. And Jesus knows that. So, while we are still babies in our faith walk, his mercy covers us. But the ultimate goal is to grow up to the measure of the fullness of Christ. At that point, it won't be difficult to give all. But start from somewhere. Anything less than 10% is unacceptable. God is even very lenient. Most government tax is from 30% and above. They don't even ask your permission to collect it. In most developed countries, it's 50% and above and no one is protesting.

well you are right those churches are a more merciful government, they don't collect 100% 50% or 30% but a mere 10%, some are even more merciful they don't even add the threat of curses or hell to it.

honesttalk21:
Quite out of the scope of my direct questions.
Was Moses not Hebrew?
Did people and prophets before Moses call God YHWH?

What really is the meaning of YHWH anyway?

I have told you before that Allah is not a compound of Al and lah but a single name
Allah is a unique, indivisible name, not a title or derived form.

Allah is the proper name for the one true God in Islam. It's a unique term that isn't a combination of Al (the) and Ilah (god)

However you always remain obstinate.

so Allah is not the god. Noted. So what does Allah mean?

honesttalk21:
There in your answer you ignore to answer if Moses was or wasn't Hebrew?

Oh you with a concept of God that communicates with his prophets in ways they do not understand? How confusing?

You claim YHWH was not a name for God amongst Hebrew speakers before Moses? Please read and understand your scripture.

Not surprised that you belittle your creator and make comparison to mortals. Tell me is Donald Trump now your creator or comparable to him?

What does Genesis 4:26 say?

Gen.4.26 And as for Seth, to him also a son was born; and he named him Enosh. Then men began to call on the name of YHVH.

The question is simply simple is YHVH Allah? Yes or no

honesttalk21:
The issue really isn't there unless you create it.

Is YHVH same as Ubangidi, Chukwu or Oluwa of Hausa, Igbo or Yoruba language. Maybe we may never know for certain being that so far there doesn't seem to be a documented revelation in any of these languages to prophets from these tribes.

The almighty God in Arabic, the language in which the Quran was revealed to prophet Muhammad pbuh is Allah. It shouldn't be confused with Illah that means the god.

Pre-islamic Arabs recognised Allah as the almighty God though they had their polytheist ways. They claimed worship of their idols as a means to reach the almighty God.

Perhaps you should also investigate if Adonai, HaShem, Kyrios also refer to the same being YHVH refers to?

so after all your verbose rhetoric what's the answer, is Allah YHVH? Yes or no

Ken4Christ:
Because not everyone has the faith to meet up with the demands of our Lord Jesus. The early church did it on two recorded occasions. So, we should at least start from the least requirement and step up over time. God loves a generous and cheerful givers. But I must say here that the administration of money received through tithe is faulty. The G Os spends most of it on himself while staffs working with them are poorly paid.

Besides, most of these churches don't reach out to the poor, fatherless, orphans and widows. This is what I mean by the administration of tithe received.

so is reducing the demands of Jesus now justified even though he said his yoke isn't budersome?

And do you justify a theft if he is a giver (proper administrator) of what he scammed off people?

Is YHVH is the god, aka allah? Yes or no
Simple question but they look a way to justify lies

Dear jimrohn,

You are confused,

Warm regards

BibleInterpreta AntiChristian TenQ CreativeOrbit gofh honesttalk21 NairaLTQ MaxInDHouse

Happy Sunday know the truth and the truth, Jesus shall set you free.

Ken4Christ:
Jesus collects 100%. He said we should sell all that we have and give alms. So, the one who gives such instruction could not be condemning tithe.

What we should focus on is the administration and not the collection.

you mentioned and brought up collection and tried to legitimize it. if you know God desires you all why reduce it to a paltry one tenth

you came to throw stones but be like na you them supposed first stone ken4christ

Ken4Christ:
Tithing is the least commitment demanded from a child God. Any commitment less than Tithing puts you in the category of a rich fool

demanded by who? You?
So which commitment is less than tithing? Giving? So giving puts me in the category of a rich fool?

So is it a hypocrite that lost the list in the op?

Dogalmighty17:
OP going by your list, you have described ALL Nigerian pastors. Which is why these days I just stay at home on Sundays. I found out that church uses people and takes advantage of them.

not all churches do though, I guess there's a reason Jesus said the narrow way few find it, if it's difficult to find them don't expect it to be popular and easy to spot without you committed to searching for it

Steep:
Actually there are evidences in the Bible that shows eternal security is true. The hyper grace teaching is actually license and has nothing to do with the grace of Jesus christ which lead to shun fleshly lost and pursue Godly life.

I didn't read where ken4christ said eternal security is not true, as he clearly emphasized eternal security with responsibility but you left that part out, why?

God is not in the business of forcing people into doing his will by threatening them

MaxInDHouse:
You are one of them!

you just had to spoil his message typical you

But ken4christ o, so you follow they collect tithe or they support tithe collectors that lie they are levities when they are not even from Israel speak less of levi 👀

It's those who are aware that can even be beware 😁

Another class on sex on nairaland Sunday morning why am I not surprised 😏. Hope people are sha changing as they are engaging this topic 🤭

funkemary:
Technology has made it so easy for us. Sometimes even if I'm with my bible in the church, instead of opening the bible I still bring out my phone and read through it.

I hope this is not a sin

like phone is faster to open and helpful for those of us that don't know where Philemon or haggai is

Anyway physical Bible no church fashion statement, especially for those who have different color bible covers 😎

ebubeson:
The first question I will ask is: are you ashamed of carrying physical paper Bible to Church? If you have electronic bible on your device, do you use it to Church because you are ashamed in carrying physical paper Bible or you just use it because of easy and convenience? Lastly, do you go to church totally without any form of Bible?

If you feel carrying physical paper Bible will affect your swagger then you are ashamed of Jesus Christ.

Please tell Jesus to forgive you for being ashamed of Him and for all sins you have committed, and let Him come into your life today in Jesus name. Amen.

Happy Sunday to you. Visit a bible-believing church today.

when Nigerian was still good, scratch that, better than now. I got a Bible for 6k, one version, now I have at least 10versions, dictionaries, Septuagint for free on my phone.

Lol I wonder how much it is now
Even church no give physical Bible for free,

It's digital inside a phone

No one should say he did that to "protect" himself or because he was scared when he is not a girl or doesn't he preach "fear not". If someone like him can fear then what should the rest of you do

... Someone will harass him inside his own jeep in broad day light

He needs that because

JimRohn:
Thank you for your honesty in acknowledging that Jesus never explicitly said the Holy Spirit is God or that God is a triune being. This is precisely the point I am raising.

From an Islamic perspective, we affirm that true monotheism (Tawheed) must be based on clear, unambiguous teachings from God's messengers. If the doctrine of the Trinity—which defines God as three co-equal, co-eternal persons—is such a fundamental tenet of Christian faith, then it is reasonable to ask for explicit statements from Jesus himself affirming this.

If Jesus never said that the Holy Spirit is God or that God is a triune being, then the formulation of the Trinity appears to be a later theological development, not a direct teaching of Christ. That raises an important question: should central doctrines about God's nature be based on theological interpretation, or on the direct, clear words of God's prophets?

As Muslims, we respect Jesus as a prophet and messenger of God, and we follow what he clearly taught: the worship of the One true God. If he never claimed divinity for the Holy Spirit or described God as triune, then we have every reason to remain with the pure monotheism he preached.

BibleInterpreta AntiChristian TenQ CreativeOrbit gofh honesttalk21 NairaLTQ MaxInDHouse

it doesn't justify you questioning the authenticity of what is written because of your observation of the some ambiguous theological claims which doesn't align with what's written. What you call foundational tenet is a mere fabrication that is obvious to those who read the text and research what the first church believed and taught, except one is too lazy to do that.

But are you different from them, they take part of what is written and accept that to be true and you do the same, in directly calling it all into question. They claim Jesus is God which is an error, you claim that Jesus isn't the son of God which is also an error, non of which the Tanakh nor the Bible agree to.

Proving a lie is a lie doesn't make another lie true

JimRohn:
Why you people refuse to answer this question 👇

Where did Jesus ever say the Holy Spirit is God or part of a triune being?
Answer: Nowhere.

TenQ gofh NairaLTQ

did I ever tell you that Jesus ever said that.

Instead of using unrelented questions to dodge relevant questions, just answer you don't know. Instead of doing this

JimRohn:
Yes! In my responses, I strive to remain firmly rooted in Islamic teachings while offering thoughtful insights into complex theological and philosophical matters.

but you accused me of giving misleading questions and misusing or mishandling the scriptures

so there are no direct quotes in all gohf said where he mishandled the scriptures


Based on the information provided, that is correct. There are no direct quotes from Gohf's statements where he explicitly quotes Islamic scriptures and then mishandles them. The analysis has been based on the general themes and potential areas of misunderstanding.