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Christianity EtcRe: Paul Never Said Women Should Not Be Ministers Of God by gohf(op): 11:10am On Feb 07, 2025
Gal.3.26 - For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
27 - For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: If God is love, why did He harden Pharaoh's heart in Exodus 9:12?" by gohf: 10:39am On Feb 07, 2025
johnydon22:
If two artists paint a picture of the same object - say a cup, and one cup is white while the other is pitch black then it is very clear they are not painting the same cup
yes if the objects are two different cups and not one cup and the two artists are trusted to paint exactly what they see
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 10:19am On Feb 07, 2025
GothamCities:
So, you're not a member of that cult. Hahaha.

He holds the same views about Jesus as you do actually. The only difference is that you believe Jesus was a mere man while he believes Jesus is angel Michael. However, both you and Maxindhouse cannot deny that it was Jesus speaking here:

NRevelation 1:8,:

"I am the Alpha and the Omega, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

Who is speaking? The One Who is, Who was and Who is to come. The Almighty

1. God the Father is the One Who is. Jesus is also the One who is. That is to say the One who is existing right now. God the Father and Jesus currently exist. Both of them IS.

2. The One Who was, God the Father is not the One Who was. God NEVER was. He never ceased to exist. He always IS. Jesus is the One Who was. He died, and so He ceased to exist for 3 days. "...a little while you will see me no more ." At that time when Jesus died, He became the One Who was. The disciples saw Him no more. They even went a fishing.

3. God the Father is not the One to come. He's always here, we're not expecting Him to come at any time. He always is. GOD THE FATHER IS NEVER TO COME. Jesus is the One to come. The Coming King. The Almighty

So, who.is the Almighty? The One Who IS, Who WAS and Who is to come. The Lord Jesus. The Almighty.

You can see how it's all interwoven between the Father and the Son as it is in all scripture. This is because they're both the same entity who manifests differently.

If you think, Jesus is not God, this verse will definitely confuse you. You won't be able to explain it without errors. If you think otherwise, I challenge you to defend this verse as God the Father speaking and not Jesus.

Jesus is the One coming. And He ended His Revelation to John by saying "I come quickly..." Phew!

"Even so come, Lord Jesus. The Spirit and the Bride says come."
is that so 🤔 okay
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:53am On Feb 07, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
In Jesus Name, Amen! cheesy
see this one, since the day I rejected your invitation to where gothamcities calls a cult, your love hate towards me increase. You remind me of that woman with unclean spirit that kept following Paul
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by gohf: 8:41am On Feb 07, 2025
PCHC:
Not only did you lie, but also you denied Christ by this statement. It is of the spirit of antichrist that denies "Divinity of Yeshua Christ"
you are absolutely right, continue in your righteousness 👍
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:36am On Feb 07, 2025
GothamCities:
The normal rhetoric of iars after they're challenged to prove themselves. They usually shoot back a retort to escape their shame.

Instead of the gibberish you typed up there, a fewer lines of reference to prove yourself would have suffice. You don't take me serious, yet you spewed so much gibberish without proving a single thing against me. May God have mercy on your soul.
lol let me escape in my shame in peace, you continue in your glory.
May those words continue to remain gibberish to you. 😊
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:35am On Feb 07, 2025
GothamCities:
It's not possible for me to change from the truth to lies.

If I were you, rather than defending falsehood in the face of obvious truth, I'll humbly reconsider my position with deep consideration for my soul and my eternity.

Those who take God's Word for granted and refuse to turn around in absolute submission to the Word of God even after they've been unwittingly shown their errors are buying eternal damnation for themselves.

If you cannot prove that I lied on this thread, then, you're the one who lied, holding on to falsehood and have refused to shift your sinking ground for the sake of your own soul.

My prayer for you is that God will fill you with the burning desire for Truth and not human doctrines; give you a humble heart to see your shortcomings and not your need to be egoistic; open your inner man to embrace the true gospel and not the doctrines of demons; and provide you a pathway to choose salvation instead of religious loyalty.
Those who take God's Word for granted and refuse to turn around in absolute submission to the Word of God even after they've been unwittingly shown their errors are buying eternal damnation for themselves.

So may my words you have read continue to remain lies to you forever, may you continue to reject them with your fervency 😊 👍. Congratulations 🎉🎉
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 11:09pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
We're now talking about this very thread dear. You said I'm blind and a liar to deny that you have debunked me on this thread. Prove yourself right now and stop using escapist responses.

Show me how you too the verse on this thread and exposed me to have lied or manipulated the verse.

I beg you to do that now or be called a liar for life!
exposing you 🤣 lol you can go ahead and call me a liar for life. The issue is you will only increase your punishment but that shouldn't stop you, are you not 100% sure you are right 😊 so keep up your confidence 👍

Lol I never took you seriously to attempt "exposing you" 😮‍💨 even a child would see your nonsense when reading the simple exchanges we have had
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 11:04pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
This is what you said that I responded to:


And I told you that if your spirit is called man, what should God's spirit be called?

You're just a liar man.

I've screenshot you below:
is that so, okay o. Thank God you did not believe my lies. Ride on 👍
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 11:02pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
The joke is on you! That verse says the One who was" which is Jesus who died, but you're confused claiming God was the One calling Himself the Beginning and the End in that verse. So, with this your confused question, do you now agree that it was Jesus speaking and not God? Do you know agree that Jesus is the Beginning and the End, the Alpha and Omega, The Almighty?


How that does change the fact that Jesus was the One who spoke to John in Revelation 1?


SMH.

The difference here is that the Speaker was not quoting anyone. Or did you see the words in quote? He was speaking His normal language for identification sake as He introduced Himself. John knew clearly by those words Who it was that was speaking to him.
yes the joke is on me, you win. Believe whatever it is that you want.

There was never a hope that you would change 😮‍💨 so ride on 👍👍
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by gohf: 11:00pm On Feb 06, 2025
PCHC:
Jesus Christ is both the Corner Stone and the Stumbling Stone: To the accusers of the woman, He was the Stumbling Stone, but to the Woman He was the Corner Stone:

[1 Peter 2:6-8 TLV] — For it says in Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion a stone, a chosen, precious cornerstone. Whoever trusts in Him will never be put to shame.” Now the value is for you who keep trusting; but for those who do not trust, “The stone which the builders rejected—this One has become the chief cornerstone,” and “a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they are disobeying the word—to this they were also appointed.











Have no other God "Beside Him" - We are not having another God beside Him, but having another God inside Him.

The word God already mean there are Gods inside God. This is because the word God came from the Hebrew word, "Elohim" which is a Plural word for "Gods in God." The singular word to Elohim is "El." Genesis 1:1 states, in the beginning, "Elohim" (Gods in God) created the heavens and the earth. Then down to verse 26, Elohim said, "Let Us (plural) make man in Our Image..."

So, having any other God besides Him is forbidden, but in Him "GodHead or Elohim" is the Father, the Word (The Son) and the Holy Spirit.







My words have not contradicted God or made Him a liar; rather it is the man who denies the Son of God as God that makes God a liar.

[1 John 5:10-12 ERV] — Whoever believes in the Son of God has the truth that God told us. But people who do not believe God make God a liar, because they do not believe what God told us about His Son. This is what God told us: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. Whoever has the Son has life, but whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.











I have always maintained there is only One God, not three Gods. But the in Persons inside the One God are more than One entity. This is not analogy from two married people, but a reality and truth. Marriage is a union, but the GodHead is Core Essence of the Infinite and Eternal Being.











Yes, mercy is speaking; but you needed mercy to speak more for you than I do. You didn't have to show you typed something you regretted and erased, and even more you didn't have to show your errors and follies.









Whatever you bring to the table before me, I will address and correct.










Who is God?

God is the Lord

Who is Jesus?

Jesus is the Lord
hmmm 🤔, I have read your response. I do need mercy more than you do, it was so nice hearing it speak.

Continue to correct, continue in your way. May my words forever remain foolishness and errors to you. 🙏

May every word you have written here be recorded on your behalf, not one word missing from it.
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by gohf: 10:49pm On Feb 06, 2025
PCHC:
Your words were darkness to counsels, and so there was no way light was to be seen from them forever and ever.

Your apology statement calls that a "Rebuke" but even Peter thought he was "Rebuking" the Lord Jesus Christ when the Lord Jesus said to Peter, "Get behind me Satan..."

You are more in need of learning of the Lord Jesus Christ, than in need of offering any apology to me.
it's fine let them remain like that to you forever
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by gohf: 10:47pm On Feb 06, 2025
PCHC:
Indeed, you having Jesus in you does not make you Jesus. But having Jesus without having understanding of Who He is not good at all. I am not avoiding to comprehend any of your arguments because you lack understanding, though you think you know what you are arguing about.






You lied - Jesus Christ said, "I Am the Son of God." You using "Never" to utter this folly reveals much. Rather, Jesus has been saying He is God almost in five chapters of John, and He never denied He is God.

[John 10:33-38 BSB] — “We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.” Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’? If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? How then can you accuse Me of blasphemy for stating that I am the Son of God? If I am not doing the works of My Father, then do not believe Me. But if I am doing them, even though you do not believe Me, believe the works themselves, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I am in the Father.”







Help me Lord to handle this:

Oh man, you really need to learn before you teach.

One of the criteria required to become an "Apostle in the Bible" is for a man to See Jesus Christ, not for the man to see a disciple of Jesus Christ that looks like Him. Paul met the criteria of becoming an Apostle because Paul saw Jesus Christ, and not a disciple of Jesus Christ.

[1 Corinthians 9:1 BSB] — Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you yourselves not my workmanship in the Lord?

Wait, if someone ask you, have you seen Jesus Christ? would you say because you saw a pastor or a man of God therefore you have seen Jesus Christ? If yes, then that would be false vision.







God had been saying He will come Himself or Send Himself, but not in the ways you now understand. All the version, whether "He" or "God" used, speaks of the mystery of godliness or "Incarnation" of God and dwelt among men as "Immanuel - God with us."






Do not be like this. God sent God is better expressed, God sent His Son. When He sent Himself, He goes or comes by the name or title, "Son of God, Spirit of God, Word of God." These titles or names of Him are what He bears as Messenger, while at the same time He as the one who sends in Heaven is called "The Father."

The Lord is the Spirit
hmm, I lied because I said Yeshua Christ the son of the living God is not God nor a god, but there is only one true God the father YHVH. Ah well If I spoke from my self and my words have no truth in them, then this accusation should never be held against you nor recorded against you. But if my words are true but you rejected them, I dust myself and words off you.

You called them lies so may you never see them as the truth.
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by gohf: 10:35pm On Feb 06, 2025
PCHC:
Nil to that

I told you to increase learning, but you rebelliously questioned whether I have increased learning the deep secrets of Satan that my ears cannot hear the truth anymore.

Learning the deep secrets of Satan or knowing the depth of Satan is not learning, but unlearning, to me.

[Revelation 2:24 TLV] — “But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold to this teaching and have not learned the so-called ‘deep things’ of satan—I place on you no other burden.

I increase in learning because I am wise: and the wise have ears to hear and increase learning.

[Proverbs 1:5 MKJV] — the wise hears and increases learning; and understanding ones get wisdom;






I do not speak without understanding of whatever I quote or say, rather I speak from understanding. My understanding has no arrogance, or it will not be understanding.

But you are he who darkens counsel by your many words without knowledge.






You saying Satan made up the conclusion that Jesus is God, and you doubting the Understanding and Spirit of God in he who is affirming to you that Jesus Christ is God, confirms your lack of understanding and foolishness.

But don't worry, you are a foolish man whom I still want to keep discussing the word of God with, especially because you said God sent you to teach His people, and I would love help you gain understanding to become better teacher.

Which of these three statements do your current level of folly agrees is true:

1. Jesus Christ is the Lord

2. Jesus Christ is God

3. Jesus Christ is the Son of God

These three statements were all said or made about Jesus Christ in the same "JOHN 20"

If you believe any one of the three, then you must believe everyone of the three. The reason is because the three statements are the basically the same:

The Lord = God (The Lord is God)

The Son of God = God (The Son of God is God)

The word "The Lord" means "Yahweh or Jehovah." So, Jesus is the Lord means Jesus is Yahweh or Jesus is Jehovah.

[Philippians 2:11] — and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Jehovah, to the glory of God the Father.

The Word "Son of God" means "God," just as the word "Son of man" means "Man" or son of a lion means a lion. The Son of God is God with us - Immanuel. Jesus Christ is also called "The Mighty God" and "The Everlasting Father"

[Isaiah 9:6 MKJV] — For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be on His shoulder; and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Again, which of those three statements about Jesus Christ in John 20 do you believe and agrees with to begin with?










I understand why these are nonsense to you, because you lack understanding of them. There's no better way to see who I am than through my words.

[John 14:10 MKJV] — Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in Me? The Words that I speak to you I do not speak of Myself, but the Father who dwells in Me, He does the works.
Hmm you say I am he who darkens counsel by your many words without knowledge.

Could you not have been patient and listened.

Since what I have said to you are dark counsels, may you never believe them, may you never seen any light from them. May you continue in your ways till the end.


I apologize for the rebuke, continue in your light
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 10:25pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
Is the spirit of gohf called man or dog?

If the spirit of gohf is man, also called the inner man, what is the Spirit of God?
to show you are a confused person deliberately letting yourself to be used.

This is what you are responding to, "really you were show three entities". You are just a liar. Even simple personal questions you can not answer with confidence, you will either avoid it or start typing nonsense
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 10:22pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
Please debunk my lies. Expose me. Just point me to where you dissected the verse I have used to create this thread, and proved my reasoning to be faulty.

I'm seriously begging you to expose me. You cannot just be alleging someone by mere shouting that the person has lied without proof!
I have been doing that even in your previous thread. You just choose to be blind or better yet be pretentious
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 10:16pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
Look at it, verse 8:

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was {the One who died), and which is to come (the One Coming again), the Almighty.

Now tell me, how:

1! God is - Yeah, God the Father is, and so is Jesus.
2. God was - God the Father NEVER WAS. He always IS. But Jesus WAS, when He died.
3. Is to Come - God the Father is NEVER TO COME. JESUS is the One who.us coming.

Jesus fulfilled all description in this verse, God fulfilled only one. Hence, the verse refers to Jesus speaking. He was first introduced in verse 1 and 2 as the One who signified these things to John. He now introduced Himself in verse 8.

Now, if you think God the Father wa the One speaking to John, when it was said expressly that Jesus was the One who signified these things to His servant John to be delivered to the Churches, then, I'm afraid.


Jesus was clearly the One speaking here too. The Word "It is Finished* is a literal reminder of Jesus' same Word on the cross. Then, "To all who are thirsty, I will give of the springs of the water of Life" is a word of promised made by Jesus to the Samaritan woman in John 4, and at the feast in John 7:37-38. These are the exact same words of Jesus. You don't even need to confuse this verse at all.
Rev.1.8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega--the beginning and the end," says the Lord God. "I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come, the Almighty One."

No matter how much you try to change the truth to fit your lies it will never become the truth. The devil will keep bringing up new ways to deceive you.

So it was God who died for you? Not Jesus anymore?

So the words Jesus spoke were from himself and not from God anymore? Continue.

So if I quote what God said in Isaiah I am now God and the originator of those words. Continue you will soon reach the bottom of the pit you are digging
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 10:07pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
By posting verses and words, you're creating a new line of argument. That's not how to debunk a a position.

Take the verse I postulated and say what I said about that verse is not true. Puncture my interpretation or find a new and verified meaning to the Greek word I explained. That's how to debunk. Not by creating new lines of argument that has nothing to do with the actual argument.
are you not confused, which verse did you use or quote correctly that I didn't "debunk" is it not just revelations I did and you are here lying again shamelessly.

The fact you lie about simple things like this is already shocking that you claim to teach and clarify others
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 10:02pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
Absolutely!
you are just a confused human that's why truthseeker10 was laughing at you saying so Jesus is no more in heaven right

You who say Jesus has no physical body, listen to what the bible calls you and your rubbish demonstration of truths

2John.1.7 There are a lot of smooth-talking charlatans loose in the world who refuse to believe that Jesus Christ was truly human, a flesh-and-blood human being. Give them their true title: Deceiver! Antichrist!

You are a deceiver. The previous time I quoted this verse for you, you challenged it and accused it of lying against Jesus
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 9:57pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
Yes, she received Him by God's power and Spirit. He was not a product of any man's semen.

The Scriptures say He was the Word who in the Beginning with God, became flesh and dwelt among men.


If Jesus was a just a man filled with the spirit of God, then His mission ended when He left the earth. That way, He lied when He said "Lol, I am with you even unto the end of the world "

K

No, sit down and learn. We would teach you Wisdom.
you mean teach foolishness, you make an assumption that oh if Jesus is man filled with the Holy Spirit therefore His mission ended, are you not being silly, I doubt you believe that God raised him from the dead and exalted him to His right side.

Obviously such foolishness can not understand our mediator and intercessor who says he is with us always, who said he and the Father will come and abide with us.

Submit to God resist the devil who is the author of your confusion or continue to believe his lie called three gods from nicolaitans doctrine of idolatry that you believe
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 9:13pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
Yes,He was a human in His body as I said previously.

Jesus never called himself the beginning and the end, you are the one lying against him.

This shows you really don't know the Bible, you're just a noise maker.

In Revelation 22:13, Jesus said:

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


Buy the truth and sell it not, even wisdom, knowledge and understanding.

Since you talk contrary to the Word of God and have displayed crass ignorance by declaring that Jesus never said He's the Beginning and the End, you should actually advise yourself.



This is it my friend,


Let's break down Hebrews 3:3:

"Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as t[b]he builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself[/b]."

Take note of the bolded for your understanding.

Let's pull it out.

'Jesus is Greater than Moses just as the Builder is Greater than the house. '

This should clarify things for you.
Rev.1.8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, says the Lord God, He Who is and Who was and Who is to come, the Almighty (the Ruler of all).

Rev.21.5 - And the one sitting on the throne [/b]said, "Look, I am making all things new!" And then he said to me, "Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true."
6 - And [b]he also said, "It is finished! I am the Alpha and the Omega--the Beginning and the End.
To all who are thirsty I will give the springs of the water of life without charge!
Rev.21.7 - All who are victorious will inherit all these blessings, and I will be their God, and they will be my children.
Rev.21.8 - But cowards who turn away from me, and unbelievers, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those who practice witchcraft, and idol worshipers, and all liars--their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."


Rev.22.9 - But again he said, "No, don't worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this scroll. Worship God!"
Rev.22.10 - Then he instructed me, "Do not seal up the prophetic words you have written, for the time is near.
Rev.22.11 - Let the one who is doing wrong continue to do wrong; the one who is vile, continue to be vile; the one who is good, continue to do good; and the one who is holy, continue in holiness."
Rev.22.12 - "See, I am coming soon, and my reward is with me, to repay all according to their deeds.
Rev.22.13 - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."
Rev.22.14 - Blessed are those who wash their robes so they can enter through the gates of the city and eat the fruit from the tree of life.
Rev.22.15 - Outside the city are the dogs--the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idol worshipers, and all who love to live a lie.

🤣🤣🤣 how will you know the truth when you called Moses the house, now you are shameless avoiding your error. A confused person wants to clarify things, there's plank in your eye
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 9:03pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
He's with me right now.

Jesus is not a physical Being.
one of your demonstrations of truth
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 9:02pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
You don't see God with your physical eyes.

When Jesus showed me God, I see The Father Son and the Holy Spirit simultaneously .
really you were show three entities 😀

Even Jesus did not call the Holy Spirit God but continue your story 🍿
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:57pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
i am not God because the Same Spirit is in me. I have a human spirit that makes up the fabric of my inner man. That makes me a man. Then, I also have the Spirit of God ine. That makes me a man filled with the Spirit of God.


Jesus on the other hand was not born by a Man but by the overshadowing of the Holy Ghost upon His mother. The Spirit of God formed the fabric of His inner Being. Then, to walk the earth, He took up flesh like man.
Well men don't give birth 😂, Mary gave birth to Jesus he didn't fall from the sky, she conceived him by God's power and spirit and gave birth to him.

Anyway you went from writing this, "By saying Jesus is God, we do not refer to the man but to the Spirit within the man Jesus."

To typing the above nonsense, are you not confused, are you not making a mockery of God's word. So Jesus was no more a man filled with the spirit of God right?


Keep twisting and turning like a brood of viper
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:49pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
All you have to do is counter the Truth as demonstrated. Shouting here and there cannot help you obscure the truth.

Counter me and tell the world that that scripture didn't say what I said it says.
is it because you are blind or you are pretending to be that you avoid all the verses and words I have posted. You can read them from the beginning maybe God out of His mercy will open your eyes
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:48pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
You call it an organization while I call it a cult. It's not confusing to use both words interchangeably.
I call what an organization? 🤣🤣🤣 ah who did this to you
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:47pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
Yeah, according to the Scriptures. I don't have a god actually. I have a God
so you agree your god is 3 different persons. And you confuse yourself that you have a god
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:45pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
You're just talking can ally.

Did you see the diagram the guy showed me? Go take a look at it again, it answers all your questions.

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are distinct personalities within the same One Person, God.

Don't use yourself to compare God. God can never be like you.
was God ever trying to be like me? Did I tell you God is like me? 😮‍💨 guy are you sure you are not confused like this.

Please this is what you quoted, read it again

"one of your so called truths your
god manifests as the son, yet you wrote previously that god is the spirit of the son, anyway so your god who manifests as his own son, spoke to himself about being forsaken on the cross? his own manifestation prayed not his will but his other fatherly manifestation's will"
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:40pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
Be corrected. Your organization has been lying and coming up new lights every now and then. Should I prove that to you? There are many threads here dedicated to exposing the lies of your organization.

So dear, what new lights do you have today?
😂 you have gone fr accusing me of being in a cult to speaking of an organization. Guy you are confused, your delusions are getting worse better ask God for mercy make your case no turn like King Saul own
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:38pm On Feb 06, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So there is real and fake Jesus🤣🤣🤣🤣
that is not the thing that burst my head, is that he ignored what was revealed to Peter and started typing that nonsense he wrote
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:34pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
If Jesus was merely a human, are you saying that Jesus lied by indicating He came from within the Father and would return unto the Father?

Are you saying that the Jesus lied when He called Himself The Resurrection and the Life? Are you saying the Bible lied when it called Jesus the Word of God? Are you saying Jesus lied when He called Himself the Beginning and the Ending, the Alpha and the Omega?

Does the Greek word I dissected in my OP mean anything other than Jesus being of the same essence with God? Are you ready to show us that my submission was false?



That was as far as Moses could see in his day. When Jesus arrived the scene, this is what was said about Him:

Here's Hebrews 3:1-6:

"1 Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle and high priest.

2 He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful in all God’s house (this is where Jesus bore a similarity with Moses).

3 Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder (Jesus} of a house has greater honor than the house (Moses) itself.

4 For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything.

5 “Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house,” bearing witness to what would be spoken by God in the future.

6 But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And we are his house, if indeed we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope in which we glory."

We can look into the original Greek of this verse too to further break it down for you.
in your arrogance you would accuse the apostles who testify of Jesus of lying against Jesus because they say he is a human sent by God who comes from God.

Jesus never called himself the beginning and the end, you are the one lying against him.
Look you can only attempt to copy wisdom but never truly have it except to receive it from God so go back to your chatGP and metaAI since you do not want to repent and receive the Holy Spirit from God who will teach you the truth.

Look at you who wants to teach others, you are calling the house Jesus builds Moses, the house is Moses abi, well done. You are failing already with English you want to use Greek

You are indeed demonstrating your truth
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by gohf: 8:16pm On Feb 06, 2025
GothamCities:
I have explained that to you.

When people saw Jesus, did they see His Spirit or His body? His body is not God. His Spirit is.

You need a spiritual encounter with Jesus to know the real Jesus.
one of your many demonstrations of your version of truth on this thread.

even Peter and true Jesus deny you
Matt.16.16 - Simon Peter answered, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God."
17 - Jesus replied, "You are blessed, Simon son of John, because my Father in heaven has revealed this to you. You did not learn this from any human being.

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