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TenQ:
My YHWH is Omnipresent
My Jehovah is Omnipresent

Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent?

hear o Israel Jehovah our God Jehovah is one

TenQ:
My God is a SPIRIT, the Uncaused First-Cause, Creator and sustainer of Everything that Exists physical or spiritual. In Him the whole universe physical or spiritual resides. He is the LIFE. He is the LIGHT. He is LOVE. He is Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient. His name is YHWH!

Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name?

so YHVH and Jehovah are two different names?

TenQ:
I don't know what you believe but obviously your comprehension of the scripture is not okay. Learning is best with ask and answering questions.
Note that here I didn't talk trinity at all

I will assume that you are JW until I know what you believe

I will handle this with you one at a time and I hope you would be truthful in responding to my questions
1. Do you agree with the fact that God is SPIRIT ?
John 4:24:
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."


2. Can God as a spirit be seen?
Col 1:15:
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:"

1Tim 1:17:
"Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen."
3. Can the Father be seen by men or Angels?


4. Is God Omnipresent!
Jer 23:24
"Can any man hide in a concealed place where I cannot see him?” declares Jehovah. “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares Jehovah

Psalm 139:7-10
"Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where can I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, you are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there your hand will lead me, and your right hand will lay hold of me"

5. Does Jehovah fill the heavens and the earth?

7. If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?



The questions are for short answers please!
From what we agree with and the ones we disagree with , we can chat a path to understanding

Did I ask you if you knew what I believe?

Since according to you, my comprehension of scripture is not okay, why are you asking me questions concerning scriptures?

Did the basis of your reply not begin from your believe in the Trinity?

Why then did you claim that 'you didn't talk trinity at all'?

If one lies about an obvious truth should there assumptions be taken as true as well?


What have you learnt from what you read?

Are your questions based upon what you read?

In my response did I contradict that God is spiritual?

Does that which is invisible translate automatically to that which is Omnipresent?

What are you trying to prove by your questions?

Why could you not clearly state where the comprehension you claimed was not okay?

And as you stated, ask in regard to that and learn, or did you not find fault in what you read?

Are you ignoring with your mighty comprehension that answers have not already been given by the link I shared, or did you not bother reading since yesterday when you saw the message?

Are you here to reaffirm you are correct by quoting that which is true from scripture to back up a lie that you believe?

Is you lie not that God is Spirit therefore He is everywhere whereas scripture says He is above the heavens, while His eyes and spirit are everywhere?

Did I not clearly tell you where you are wrong?

Did you not read my explanations even in the link I shared about the eyes of the LORD and where the LORD himself is?

Have I not given answers already to the question concerning God's omnipresence?

Or is it that your comprehension is in absence of you actually reading?


Can you answer any of these questions I have asked you honestly without pride or deviation?

Jas.2.15 - 16
Suppose you see a brother or sister who needs food or clothing, and you say, "Well, good-bye and God bless you; stay warm and eat well"--but then you don't give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?

This here James was speaking about faith, yet love is greater than faith, 1 Corinthians 13:13

And like Paul said in 1 Corinthians 13:2 if all our faith can do is move mountains and we have no love (no works of love) then we are nothing.

From verse 4, the standard of our love is that we should be patient, kind, humble not envious, boastful and proud, we should not be rude, selfish and irritable, nor vengeful. We should not rejoice in evil and falsehood but rejoice in the truth. It sounds like part of the fruit of the spirit in Galatians 5:22-23. You see faith you see love, you see love you see faith

1John.3.16 - 17
We know what real love is because Christ gave up his life for us. And so we also ought to give up our lives for our Christian brothers and sisters. But if anyone has enough money to live well and sees a brother or sister in need and refuses to help--how can God's love be in that person? Dear children, let us stop just saying we love each other; let us really show it by our actions.

So the standard of our love should not just be I love you, but it should be real like Paul wrote in Rom.12.9 -10
Don't just pretend that you love others. Really love them. Hate what is wrong. Stand on the side of the good. Love each other with genuine affection, and take delight in honoring each other. Because it is love that really builds up the church. (1Cor.8.1)

To love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. (1 Tim1:5) should be our highest goal and desire (1Cor 14.1)

So that like Paul wrote in 1Cor.16.14 - everything we do is be done with love. If indeed Christ's love controls us (2Cor.5.14) even our words should be the truth spoken in love (Eph.4.15) for it's only when we truly obey God that we are purified and we love others sincerely like Peter wrote in 1Peter 1:12.

Love indeed purifies us, that's God's standard

In conclusion, Heb.13.1 -5

Continue to love each other with true Christian love. Don't forget to show hospitality to strangers, for some who have done this have entertained angels without realizing it! Don't forget about those in prison. Suffer with them as though you were there yourself. Share the sorrow of those being mistreated, as though you feel their pain in your own bodies.

Give honor to marriage, and remain faithful to one another in marriage. God will surely judge people who are immoral and those who commit adultery.

Stay away from the love of money; be satisfied with what you have. For God has said, "I will never fail you. I will never forsake you."

Now the world has a way they define love and practice it, of which today is one of such ways they celebration love, Friday the fourteenth of February, Valentine's day. It's a unique day that falls also on a unique day, Friday which is a name gotten from an idol that supposedly symbolizes love. This post isn't about the day nor the name, Valentine but about God's standard for love.

John 3:16, God so loved the world that he gave us an opportunity to be saved, he gave us a gift we can either accept or reject it

So love is giving, but giving isn't always love nor about love. You know Paul wrote in 1Cor.13.3 If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn't love others, I would be of no value whatsoever. I would be nothing if I gave all and had no love.

One could say, well God is love, 1 John 4:16, so nothing have God and doing all that giving profits nothing, but is that truly the case? It is possible that a person can give so as to brag about it, so as to announce it or to receive a favor back, such "love" is common but not really God's standard of love, the standard that profits everything.

Jesus said in Matt.6.1 - 4
"Take care! Don't do your good deeds publicly, to be admired, because then you will lose the reward from your Father in heaven. When you give a gift to someone in need, don't shout about it as the hypocrites do--blowing trumpets in the synagogues and streets to call attention to their acts of charity! I assure you, they have received all the reward they will ever get. But when you give to someone, don't tell your left hand what your right hand is doing. Give your gifts in secret, and your Father, who knows all secrets, will reward you.

So the first standard of God's love is not for human attention but to meet a need.

And you know Jesus taught three types of love, the first is for us to love God with everything we are and have and the second is to love our neighbors and those in need as we love ourselves. Well if you do not count loving yourself as the third one, the third one would then be loving your enemies and it's not to encourage them to continue being wicked but to like God give them an opportunity to change and repent.

Before Matthew 6, Jesus said in Matt.5.44 - 47 But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and on the unjust, too.

If you love only those who love you, what good is that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that.

It's obviously easier to love those who love you, but the standard of God is higher because he expects us to love even those who don't love us back as well. Thank God it doesn't say love your enemies as yourself so you know that the standard by which you love God being the highest then the next of you loving your neighbors and lasting your enemies are not all the same, but they all have their rewards especially loving your enemies. Like Luke puts it in Luke.6.32 - 33

"Do you think you deserve credit merely for loving those who love you? Even the sinners do that! And if you do good only to those who do good to you, is that so wonderful? Even sinners do that much!

So for us to operate in God's standard of love, we must be prepared to love and be kind to even those we may not even be so deserving of it. The fact you love them doesn't mean you like what they do, doesn't mean you agree with them, it just means you are kind enough to care about them, and be of help to them for good.

It may be too much to talk about loving one's enemies from the start, and if we are to talk about loving God, the words of John ring clear in 1John.4.20 - 21
If someone says, "I love God," but hates a Christian brother or sister, that person is a liar; for if we don't love people we can see, how can we love God, whom we have not seen? And God himself has commanded that we must love not only him but our Christian brothers and sisters, too.

And God loves those who obey him and those who obey God are those who truly love God and walk in the light, 1 John 2. And like verse 15, we can't have the world's standard love and preferences and also have God's love in us, if we love the world and become friends with it, we become enemies to God, James 4:4. Things like love your enemies become meaningless to you, even loving your neighbors would seem like an unnecessary burden

Adultery in "the house of their god"

Jas.5.16 Confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The earnest prayer of A RIGHTEOUS PERSON has great power and wonderful results.

Truthseeker10:
So a part of God is the devil? Are you saying that a part of God does bad and commits evil?

is God now in parts? 😒

Truthseeker10:
Are you saying that the devil has the holy spirit of God?

🤣 tenq?

Truthseeker10:
So the life of the devil is God? So is God acting through the devil?

what life does the devil have? And why would God act through the devil?

TenQ:
Exactly!

He is a creation within God!
Just as the Angels are within God
And Everyone is within God

of everything is already within God, why was there a need for restoration, restoring and redeeming all things back to God?

TenQ:
I asked a simple question now!

The JW believe that their Jehovah is not Omnipresent. If he is not Omnipresent, he must be somewhere in space and time.

So, the question is very valid sir.


Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything




Every wrong doctrine break down under interrogation!

I don't know what you mean by "their Jehovah"

But there is only one God who is YHVH (Jehovah) and there is no other YHVH.

As for where He is, haven't you read, it is written in Isa.57.15 The high and lofty one who inhabits eternity, the Holy One, says this: "I live in that high and holy place with those whose spirits are contrite and humble. I refresh the humble and give new courage to those with repentant hearts.

Have you not heard? Ps.24.3 Who may ascend the hill of the LORD(YHVH)? Who may stand in his holy place?

Thankgod89:
Before the creation of heaven and earth, God existed in His eternal and infinite nature. He is not confined by space or time, as He is the One who created them. To understand this more fully, let’s examine how the Bible describes His existence in various ways.

1. God Exists Beyond Creation

The Bible makes it clear that God existed before the universe and is not bound by physical space.

Psalm 90:2 – "Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever you had formed the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God."

Isaiah 57:15 – "For thus says the high and lofty One that inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy."


These verses reveal that God is eternal and exists beyond human understanding of time and space. He inhabits eternity, not a specific location.

2. God Is Spirit (Not Limited by Space)

God’s nature is spiritual, meaning He is not confined to physical dimensions.

John 4:24 – "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."


Since places and physical locations were part of creation, God did not "reside" in a specific place before creation. Instead, He existed in His own divine, infinite being.

3. Heaven Was Created by God (It Is Not His Original "Home"

Heaven, like earth, was created by God and had a beginning.

Genesis 1:1 – "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."

Since heaven itself was created, God did not dwell there before its existence. His presence is not dependent on a created place.

4. God’s Presence Fills Everything

Even after creating heaven and earth, God remains limitless and cannot be contained by any space.

Jeremiah 23:24 – "Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."

1 Kings 8:27 – "Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain you."


God’s presence is everywhere, transcending all space and time. He does not "live" in a particular place but rather fills and sustains all creation.

tenq did you read this response?

TenQ:
The answer is extremely simple and built into the Trinity. What did Jesus teach?

God is SPIRIT (the infinite Spirit) who is EVERYWHERE.
John 4:24:
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

As the Holy Spirit, God is INVISIBLE either on the earth (Physical Realm) or the heavens (Spiritual realm). The Holy Spirit is like AIR (RUACH) whose Presence through His actions can only be felt. In other words, the Holy Spirit is the Omnipresent existence of God.

Thus, the whole of the Universe (Physical and Spiritual) is INSIDE the Spirit of God as God the Holy Spirit is INVISIBLE

Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me."
Jeremiah 23:24:
"Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."


Acts 17:28a kills it by telling us that we LIVE inside God (as the Holy Spirit).
Act 17:28
"For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"

The Word (The Son , Jesus) on Earth is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God, the Messanger of God's presence.

Colossians 1:15:
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation"

The Father is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God in the Heavens who sits on the throne in heaven to preside over it.


This is why in Genesis 19:24, Yahweh on earth could rain down fire from Yahweh in heaven.

Genesis 19:24
"Then Yahweh (on earth with Abraham) rained on Sodom and on Gomorrah sulfur and fire from Yahweh out of the heavens."


This is why in the Throne room of the FATHER in Heaven, you cannot SEE the Holy Spirit. You can only see the Father and the Word (the Lamb, the Son) because ALL EXISTENCE are inside Him


So the question of WHERE was God is misinformed because ALL existence physical and spiritual is INSIDE God.


The whole Universe physical and spiritual are all a tiny subset WITHIN God as the Holy Spirit.



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The answer isn't built into any false unscriptural and not from God term like trinity, the answer falls more in line with what MightySparrow wrote.

Which I have shared some scriptures in light to that here
https://www.nairaland.com/8342531/answering-question-god-omnipresent

But considering what you have written here that because God is Spirit therefore God is everywhere? Have you not made an incorrect assumption that because God is Spirit, He is the Spirit He sent everywhere? Is God confused or trying to confuse us by revealing He sent His spirit whereas if what you believe to be true is true that God sent Himself, then He should have clearly revealed that not just to the prophets who wrote but most especial to Jesus who said, our Father who art in heaven and that he goes back to the Father and he physically ascended to his right side...


If you base your answer upon a lie, how can your answer be true?

You make statements like, "Thus, the whole of the Universe (Physical and Spiritual) is INSIDE the Spirit of God as God the Holy Spirit is INVISIBLE"

Whereas what is written in Genesis 1:2 is that the Spirit of God moved upon the waters.

The trinity lie has blinded many it seems. Can you not differentiate when scripture refers to God's person and to God's presence and even the presence of God isn't manifested everywhere even though his spirit and eye is there.

Acts 17:28 for it is in God that we have our life,... not outside of it, that's why in verse 29 God is not an idol made by men but He made us and is the reason we live and exist. Did you not read the verse 24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands...

Then your mistake of saying Jesus on earth whereas Jesus is not on earth but at the right side of God our Father. Then the mistake of you calling our Father and image of himself, whereas it is Christ Jesus who is the image of God. You speak about God raining fire from the heavens and not realize that he who was upon the earth speaking to Abram wasn't God but His representative. Or is the fire that spoke to Moses God as well? Even scripture called the fire the angel of God.

Realize therefore the difference between where God is, and where his eyes and spirits are

https://www.nairaland.com/8342531/answering-question-god-omnipresent


God is high above all

Gabrielshow24:
"destroy works" through what🤨, perhaps through raising of the sword🤔.

Also this a clear diversion from the subject matter and you want us to infer that these verses allude to Christ's supposed pre-incarnate disposition to violence.

a diversion? 🤨😒🙄 is that what you call the verses you read?

Rev.2.16 Repent, or I will come to you suddenly and fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Humanly speaking it is possible for a person not to be physically present but still have his presence felt in a meeting, be it by sending a representative or through video chat or call, or even a letter from him being read in that meeting, either as a response or as an agenda.

Like writing now, I am physically somewhere else but you can feel my presence on the platform through my words. Just like you can watch people from afar doesn't mean you are there with them.

Now does the bible teach that God is everywhere? No it doesn't... Think about the fact that Jesus said he is going back to God and physically ascended to his right side.

In the garden the bible records that Adam and Eve heard God coming. God told Moses I will descend and reveal myself.

Or you read, the heaven is His throne and the earth is His footstool.. Isaiah 66:1 or Ps.113.4 - 6
For the LORD is high above the nations; his glory is far greater than the heavens. Who can be compared with the LORD our God, who is enthroned on high? Far below him are the heavens and the earth. He stoops to look,..

God's omnipresence is by His spirit which He sends throughout the earth. Gen 6:3-5

For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to give strong support to those whose heart is blameless toward him. You have done foolishly in this, for from now on you will have wars.” 2Chronicles 16:9

Rev 5:6b.. having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. Zechariah 4:10, 6:5

Ps.139.7 - 8 I can never escape from your spirit! I can never get away from your presence! If I go up to heaven, you are there; if I go down to the place of the dead, you are there.

Prov.15.3 The eyes of the LORD are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.

We see that it is not God Himself but his presence, his eyes, his spirit not He Himself. Those of us on earth have the spirit of God in us, not God Himself

Isa.57.15 The high and lofty one who inhabits eternity, the Holy One, says this: "I live in that high and holy place with those whose spirits are contrite and humble. I refresh the humble and give new courage to those with repentant hearts.

“Am I only a God nearby,” declares the Lord, “and not a God far away? Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?” declares the Lord. “Do not I fill heaven and earth?” declares the Lord. Jeremiah 23: 23 - 24

Everything we do God sees, everything we say God hears but that doesn't mean God is there presently.

God heard about Sodom and Gomorrah and sent his angels down to test and judge them, and sent fire down to destroy them for their evil.

Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account. Hebrews 4: 13

When you pray in secret the one who sees in secret will reward you openly, for; Our Father who art in heaven...

M

Gabrielshow24:
what then is your posit? 🙃

Think wisely😊

1John.3.8 But when people keep on sinning, it shows they belong to the Devil, who has been sinning since the beginning. But the Son of God came to destroy these works of the Devil.

2Thess.2.8 Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will consume with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.

John 14:27. Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid.

Truthseeker10:
So the devil was not created as evil?

was he not created to choose?

Truthseeker10:
No...explain.

don't you have Google or a dictionary?

Truthseeker10:
But you said in your submission that Jesus is light and the devil is evil.
So if God created the devil, then God created evil and started evil on earth. Is that correct?

well don't you believe that God created the being that became devil?

Gotten the truth

John.8.31 - 32
Jesus said to the people who believed in him, "You are truly my disciples if you keep obeying my teachings. And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Truthseeker10:
Explain what morality is

don't you know what morality is?

Truthseeker10:
So God created bad on earth by creating the serpent and man?

did serpent and man create evil?

Truthseeker10:
So how did God create bad on earth?

This is how

Gen.2.9 And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground-trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
(Gen.2.16 -17) And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."

Gen.3.4 - 5 "You won't die!" the serpent hissed. "God knows that your eyes will be opened when you eat it. You will become just like God, knowing everything, both good and evil."

Gen.3.19 All your life you will sweat to produce food, until your dying day. Then you will return to the ground from which you came. For you were made from dust, and to the dust you will return."

Gen.4.7-8 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it." Now Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field." And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.

Gen.6.5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

Truthseeker10:
Explain

you think morality is explain?

Truthseeker10:
What exactly is morality?

what do you think it is? 😊

Truthseeker10:
So you are saying that God created bad by creating the devil, man and serpent?

is that your answer to the question?

Truthseeker10:
How did God create bad on earth? Explain.

Haven't I?
Or did evil create itself or did man or the serpent create it?

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂.....sorry oo....e dey pain. How did God create bad?

what, you didn't like the answer?

Zaheertyler:
Oga evangelist
I am waiting for you to explain how everything you wrote up there advances the body of Christ
Or you want to join kobojunkie?

does the revelation of Jesus Christ not advance the body of Christ?