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nolzautoz:
How can I become born again and how can I do self deliverance

you cannot deliver yourself, no man can deliver you except Jesus.

For who the son of man sets free is free indeed, any other form of deliverance is repackaged bondaged.

It is because of Jesus that we become children of God and cry our Father deliver us from all evil.

You can only truly become born again by believing the true Jesus which is revealed by the true gospel, and genuinely turning to God. Listen you cannot born yourself, you can be born by the living word of God like Peter said having new life.

But this birth doesn't promises worldly pleasure and peace that is of this world o, so I won't market or advertise what is a lie and contrary to the truth.

Take this time and period and seek God, and study His word. So that you can know the truth.

MaxInDHouse:
But you're still alive with a smart phone or computer to type this when many are crying in pain on their hospital bed.
Well God need to know the true Christians first, learn the purpose of life from them then you can start your prayer as you will know where to channel your petitions and what you must pray for!


Give us today our daily bread.‭Matthew 6:11


Jesus taught his disciples to pray for what they need DAILY not what the world has to offer! Matthew 6:19-21

guy you sound like the friends of Job, sometimes when God no send you, be quiet. Saying nothing may have been better.

May someone not tell you this when you are going through pain.

Hohenheim:
They made up the stories, after all the stories about Jesus in the Bible were written decades after his death.

so according to you because it is written decades after then it is a made up story?

AbuTwins:
That's your English definition of things! I don't go by that!

Call them Angels, period!

Angels appeared to Prophets and pious people as man! Angel appeared to Mary!

Nowhere did any angel appear to Matthew and co.

when you say nowhere you mention it is not recorded anywhere


So if someone visited me and I don't tell you does that mean I wasn't visited.

Are you not being a bit too arrogant with your claim, are you supposed to be all knowing

AbuTwins:
That's your English definition of things! I don't go by that!

Call them Angels, period!

Angels appeared to Prophets and pious people as man! Angel appeared to Mary!

Nowhere did any angel appear to Matthew and co.

so you witnessed the lives of Matthew and Muhammad and know who an angel visited and who wasn't visited?

olisaEze:
Christianity is a personal race, not everyone has the same revelation of God. If He says Christ was crucified because of poverty, he isn’t far fetched. 2Cor 8:9, lets us know that Christ was made poor on the cross so that we might be rich. In other words, Christ was crucified because of ur poverty. Opari!! 🤷🏽

your own Christ died because you are poor but the true Christ came to preach the gospel to the poor

God saw the poor and instead of material riches he promised them His kingdom

Daejumong:
‘Jesus was crucified because of poverty. Poverty is a sign of ungodliness. Never trust the holiness of a poor man. It took a rich man to get the body of Jesus to be given a befitting burial.’ - Pastor Korede Komaiya ( Presiding Pastor, The Master’s place, Nigeria)

According to him, Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Ibiyeomie are his spiritual fathers while Pastor Fatoyinbo is his spiritual brother.

He made these controversial statements while preaching in a church program organized by his brother apparently to motivate the rich guys in church to empty their pockets and accounts for the church. This is a popular gimmick by many pastors in Nigeria(Africa)who invite their friends to preach in order to raise ‘wicked’ money for them!

I think CAN and PFN need to step up in regulating the church in Nigeria otherwise God would hand over the job to unbelievers just like what is happening in Rwanda!

I humbly call on Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Ibiyeomie to call Korede to order. Money is not salvation. Lazarus was poor and made heaven! Jesus died for the poor and the rich.

2Pet.2.1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

All these false anointed ones, false fathers and brothers

May God deliver us from all forms of evil

From faith comes righteousness and the righteous live by faith, growing from faith to faith

Jesus, God's apostle, prophet and our High Priest is alive and is coming

Jesus the true anointed is alive and is coming back again

Jesus is alive

Jesus is alive 🎉🎉🎉

Thugnificent:
Hypocrisy is on full display in this country so nothing surprises me anymore

All the soo called Christians that act holy online maybe by dressing, Public show of piety etc, do worse things behind close doors that even stun the Devil.

🤣🤣

You just reminded of when I was a young minister, I remember after one program where other ministers spoke about their purity and virginity, at that time I hadn't done it anyway but I admit my weaknesses to the youths, the shock on their face during the meeting and the number that meet me after. The thing is, while the others kept talking about being tempted by some sisters, not one of them came to tempt me 😂. Maybe because I said, something in line of ah if God no help me, if I touch you nine months straight they laughed. It was soo funny I was worried that later I would get accused of all manner but not once the such occur till I left. But I knew all that was occuring privately which I could only pray for because who gets proof na.

I didn't judge those who fell because me self I for fall if it was me, that's how I thought, so I prayed for them I guess and hoped they changed but who knows 😋

Thugnificent:
Because it is mentioned everyday on the Internet and here on Nairaland

I really don't think God is worried about that, reason for this topic in the first place

No He isn't, infact the only time He was "disturbed" by it was because of a man's wickedness. You see God permitted a merciful law for widows who lost their husbands and didn't have children so Moses said the next of kin should marry her and raise children for his brother and those children would inherit their father's possession and take care of their mother.

The issue is, some men, especially this one slept with a certain woman and did withdrawal, or was masturbating on her thighs so she doesn't get pregnant. So because of his wickedness and selfishness, well God struck him.


And also if you are talking about fornication, free sex givers and takers, people who engage the opposite without commitment but for mere material gain or pleasure. It's wasting away one's life, no Father would like that. Using people like objects. Infact you would notice if you studied the scriptures fornicators were worse than prostitutes. E.g Rahab, look God knows the heart of everyone, he knows girls that are forced into it, kidnapped into it, and those who it's not for survival or lack of options it's just wicked lust even at the expense of others relationships they just don't care.

Hope this small note shows you that God is the perfect judge because He knows, whether you are destroying your life or that of others, God knows. If a guy is deceiving a lady just to have sex with her, God knows and judges.

Thugnificent:
Yes exactly, and also for all types of sexual activities with the exemption of adultery, homosexuality, bestiality, rape etc

eh well I dont know other types of sexual activity o, except for masturbation and sex with the opposite sex which are both unclean acts according to the laws of Moses.

Uncleanliness also include childbirth, menstruation and any form of discharge.


Instead of listening to those who take you as gullible and would never read your Bible, why not read it, believe in God and ask for the Holy Spirit to teach you. Because honestly people make up laws that God did not give.

HeatSeeker:
By showing men that Love is the pathway to GOD.

Besides, you need to understand that all the suffering, starvation, hunger, death, and pain are an inevitable consequence of the actions and inactions of men. You cannot hold GOD responsible for people doing things they should not do. Men have sown seeds and it is only natural for them to reap the fruits.

loved your responses, not the way I would've put it, but I understood and appreciate what you wrote 👍

God cares about everything that concerns us.
God sent us his son Jesus to restore relationship with us
The wickedness on earth is as a result of men not loving the way God wants us to.

Thugnificent:
But as long as I'm not hurting anyone or my body, what gives ??


Your other points are very well noted

lol I think at this point I may understand what you are asking

Why do these preachers say masturbation is a sin?

Thugnificent:
I mean there are billions of galaxies, trillions of stars, the Moon, Sun etc

Here on earth we have Wars, poverty, Natural disasters, Diseases etc

But no, God is worried that i went to fap in my bathroom to release Konji

Like doesn't that sound stupid?

Please Christians take some time to reason this matter

God bless 🙏

why do you even think God is worried about that?

musicwriter:
History shows that there are many other characters who predate Jesus and were born by a virgin, had 12 disciples, did miracles, killed by haters, died for 3 days, resurrected from the dead, and ascended into heaven.

Three books you can quickly read to learn more are:-

1. Christianity before Christ - by John G. Jackson
2. The sixteen crucified saviors- by Kasey Graves
3. Who is this so of glory?- by Alvin Bohd

All happened thousands of years before anybody heard of Jesus

John Jackson isnt he the one whose books actually show how Catholics got there version of Jesus and corrupted God's word.

The issue here is Jesus isn't God and wasn't born on 25th of December. I am aware of some of the false Christs and many sons of gods from different eras and religions

musicwriter:
Your second proposition that "Matthew deliberately lied to link Jesus with the former Prophetic expectation" is actually the answer.

Scholars have already looked into that and discovered that the ancient authors used a writing skill called "typology " to create a new story from an existing story.

By doing that, the ancient authors wanted their readers to understand that the new character is a continuation of the old. Example; they introduced the character Jesus to became a new type of Moses in the new testament. The authors of the new testament wanted the "Jews" to understand that Jesus was a continuation of Moses. This way, they'll accept him and quit rebellion against the Roman empire.

You probably must have read about it already in the book: Caesars Messiah- the Roman conspiracy to invent Jesus, otherwise you have to be a very intelligent person to even suggest that

if that is the case then Matthew did a very horrible job at that.

To properly invent a story why invent one that isn't acceptable by the Jews?

Fictional:
yet it is not the opposite of God's word. Disobedience is.

Can I ask you a question? Have you been in a court proceedings before?


When two lawyers argue out a case? Presenting evidences and witnesses to compare and contradict. And one eventually wins. Do you say the other lawyer told a lie and that's why he lost? Would you call the judge corrupt or bias rather? Would you say the lawyer evn though he has just freed a criminal was telling the TRUTH?

What makes a LIE AND WHAT IS THE TRUTH? And what makes God's word different?

Please join me on reading on this. I hope to show something profound, if i do miss it though then i can take my words back but my aim is to expose something else much powerful than lies that the devi uses against Christians and non Christians.

you just sit down and believe in yourself that the opposite of a speech is an action and convince yourself that you are right.

The foundation of your logic is an error and a lie, that is what a lie is.

DaddyCoool:
I think this will be my last post on this thread.

No matter what you quote, no matter how you parse biblical words, no matter who changed or manipulated the Bible, we are left with these two questions:
1) WHAT IS CHRIST IF NOT EXTENTION OF GOD??
If you say he was created and wasn't always with God, why would God create somebody to then help him create the universe - doesn't make sense and doesn't agree with Genesis.

2) WHY WOULD GOD RAISE HIM, KNOWING HE'D BE WORSHIPPED AS GOD??
And have it going on for 2000+ years, prospering those doing it??

Anytime you're tempted to say Christ is NOT God, think of those questions.
Consider also this below.

It's because
1. God didn't create Jesus to help him
2. God didn't create Jesus to be worshipped as a god

It is better you correct yourself or you remain silent so the devil stops using your ignorance

Now apart from these prophecies, there actually a word from God that shows that Jesus is from God, and not from Adam, physically. And that is in Gen.3.19b .... Then you will return to the ground from which you came. For you were made from dust, and to the dust you will return."

Now when Jesus died he didn't turn to dust and instead of him returning to dust, he returned to God. John.20.17 "Don't cling to me," Jesus said, "for I haven't yet ascended to the Father. But go find my brothers and tell them that I am ascending to my Father and your Father, my God and your God."

If Jesus came from dust he would have returned to dust, but he came from God and returned to God, a human that could not turn to dust, that could not decay, though his soul have left it returned to his body filled with scars and holes.

gohf:
Okay so Jesus had to be executed publicly just as Jonah was publicly thrown into the seas, this one isn't the one people can accuse or claim that it is a friend, Lazarus, that may have faked death to promote Jesus or a child who may have been in coma, or the boy who may have not been dead but still his mother received him back, because all these resurrections where private incidents, infact they were more public than the accounts from Elijah and Elisha about resurrection of the dead, but compared to a public execution where many could see Jesus die and confirm him dead, those ones were not public enough. So a public execution.

Abraham said something Gen.22.8 And Abraham said, "My son, God will provide for Himself the lamb for a burnt offering." So the two of them went together. (NKJV) Abraham heard God but he knew God would not kill the innocent so he believed he wouldn't lose Isaac, the writer of Hebrews puts it like this in Heb.11.19 Abraham assumed that if Isaac died, God was able to bring him back to life again. And in a sense, Abraham did receive his son back from the dead.

Even this situation of Abraham was a private encounter which prophecied and spoke of a future event, where God did indeed provide himself a lamb and just as Isaac was given back to his Abraham, the lamb of God resurrected and went back to his Father. And t is the ascension of Jesus that proves he is from God and is God's true son
. Jesus didn't just come back to life, he rose to eternal life.

Infact the resurrection of Jesus is so important it is preached and mentioned a number of times in the book of Acts and the Epistles and twice in Acts was the prophecy in Ps.16.10 mentioned, "For You will not leave my soul in hell, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption."

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Now this prophecy is not about David, his body rotted away, but it's about the Messiah, and Peter mentions this in Acts 2, so also does Paul in Acts 13.

Now many don't believe that Jesus went to hell, well he did, hell is sheol, grave, pit, hades all the same, so Jesus went there not to suffer, but to preach. He suffered death and went to the grave to preach to those there

1Pet.3.18 - Christ also suffered when he died for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but he died for sinners that he might bring us safely home to God. He suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit.
1Pet.3.19 - So he went and preached to the spirits in prison--

Anyway so Jesus rose from the grave, from the pit, from the abyss, though he didn't go there the day he died anyway Jesus rose. (Please note Jesus did not die eternally for you, it was the physical death he took from us and he died once, there is no redemption from the second death, we are saved from it, we escape from it not brought out of it, he didn't go to hell for us, God isn't sending anyone for that, to take anyone's place in hell or lake of fire)

Paul wrote this
1Cor.15.4 He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, as the Scriptures said. And Luke records that Jesus said this, Luke.24.46 And he said, "Yes, it was written long ago that the Messiah must suffer and die and rise again from the dead on the third day.

And someone may ask where was it prophecied or written that the Messiah would rise on the third day, while there isn't a specific worded prophecy we have to understand just God uses circumstances and events He causes to reveal and speak about the future, like Abraham in Genesis 22:4 where they found the place of sacrifice on the third day and Jonah but there is indeed one scripture, Hosea 6:2 After two days He will revive us; On the third day He will raise us up, That we may live in His sight.

You may say that it is "US" written there, well that's true, because we die with him and we rise with Him. And in Matthew 27 we have an account that many were resurrected along with Jesus in their bodies. And the resurrection was indeed a sign to the gentiles.

Okay so Jesus had to be executed publicly just as Jonah was publicly thrown into the seas, this one isn't the one people can accuse or claim that it is a friend, Lazarus, that may have faked death to promote Jesus or a child who may have been in coma, or the boy who may have not been dead but still his mother received him back, because all these resurrections where private incidents, infact they were more public than the accounts from Elijah and Elisha about resurrection of the dead, but compared to a public execution where many could see Jesus die and confirm him dead, those ones were not public enough. So a public execution.

Abraham said something Gen.22.8 And Abraham said, "My son, God will provide for Himself the lamb for a burnt offering." So the two of them went together. (NKJV) Abraham heard God but he knew God would not kill the innocent so he believed he wouldn't lose Isaac, the writer of Hebrews puts it like this in Heb.11.19 Abraham assumed that if Isaac died, God was able to bring him back to life again. And in a sense, Abraham did receive his son back from the dead.

Even this situation of Abraham was a private encounter which prophecied and spoke of a future event, where God did indeed provide himself a lamb and just as Isaac was given back to his Abraham, the lamb of God resurrected and went back to his Father. And it is the ascension of Jesus that proves he is from God and is God's true son. Jesus didn't just come back to life, he rose to eternal life.

Infact the resurrection of Jesus is so important it is preached and mentioned a number of times in the book of Acts and the Epistles and twice in Acts was the prophecy in Ps.16.10 mentioned, "For You will not leave my soul in hell, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption."

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Now though only Matthew attaches the length of Jonah's three days and nights to Jesus, and the other gospels don't, I personally believe this duration is from when Jesus begins to shed his blood and is crucified till his resurrection and appearance on Sunday. So counting from Thursday morning till his death that afternoon we know he rose before early Sunday morning, based on gospel records because I am not an eye witness of those events but one who believes them also seeing Jesus my self. Anyway, so we have three full nights and three days, Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, Friday morning, Saturday morning, where he is in the grave, so we can say the day he resurrected as him rising on third day. Or you can still say after three days counting from his beating and crucifixion Thursday morning, it's like taking time to kill someone after sentencing the person to death. You may ask why am I counting it, am I trying to make sure it's three days, well in Mark.10.34, Jesus said, "They will mock him, spit on him, beat him with their whips, and kill him, but after three days he will rise again." So if we count from the mocking, beating and killing, it's three days.

If you ask me about Friday, I will tell you personally I don't believe any nonsense from Catholic, please receive the Holy Spirit and study your bibleS. (Research as well, don't just believe because I or someone else is telling you, if you can't then pray, nothing beats revelation from God)

When I say Jesus is the son of God, I mean he came from God as in contrast with humans who come from the blossoms of their fathers, aka, sperm.

Now the resurrection is the surest and one sign that proves that Jesus is from God and that's why Jesus himself said in Luke.11.29-30 - "These are evil times, and this evil generation keeps asking me to show them a miraculous sign. But the only sign I will give them is the sign of the prophet Jonah. What happened to him was a sign to the people of Nineveh that God had sent him. What happens to me will be a sign that God has sent me, the Son of Man, to these people.

Jesus was obviously referring not just to his death but especially to his resurrection, and you can't resurrect without dying. So when we look at the sign of Jonah we should realize that it is impossible for a man to be swallowed by a fish and survive for three days. Infact the Hebrew word used for swallow also means to eat up, to devor, to meet one's end, and Jonah went through that and somehow survived and was able to walk to the city and spread God's word and warning.

Have you ever wondered why a great city like Nineveh repented just at the words of Jonah. It was because there was a compelling sign that caused them to believe Jonah and it goes to show us how great of a sign it was. First was Jonah to be publicly thrown into a sea, after losing their cargo, and news of such a strange storm would spread, a storm was so horrible it made those in the ship pray to the God Jonah spoke to them about and made them convert to worship Him, and yet there wae Jonah standing right there alive preaching.

Jonah may have not died in the belly of the fish but he must have been dying, he must have been in pains, and just as public as Jonah's execution was, so also Jesus's execution would be in order to save us.

Well the difference is Jonah was at fault in the first place while Jesus was taking our place of fault.

So for three days and nights, then suddenly Jonah appears at Nineveh, whether they saw the fish or not, throwing someone even into a calm sea would kill them but Jonah was miraculous alive. And that miraculous sign of Jonah is what Jesus says would prove that he was sent by God and may also be the reason Jesus spends 40days before finally ascending to God.


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Whatever the devil says is a lie because it is not God's word and it contradicts God's word.

englishmart:
He quoted the prophets. Everybody who understands the Bible knows where those books are.

did he specify the prophets that you say he was quoting.

Don't you notice that sometimes he mentions a prophet's name and sometimes he doesn't, like he doesn't remember the exact prophet again, and there's even one where he mixed together what two prophets said and mentioned Zechariah instead of Jeremiah. But what he wrote was actually written.

So you called him a liar because he is a human who can make mistakes?

GothamCities:
He is the Word through which all things were created.

Did you hear that God created the Word? He's the firstborn because He's the foundation of all creation.

so according to you God did not lay the foundations of the world?!!
Job.38.4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
Isa.51.13 that you forget the LORD your Maker, who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth, that you live in constant terror every day because of the wrath of the oppressor, who is bent on destruction? For where is the wrath of the oppressor?
Ps.104.5 You who laid the foundations of the earth, So that it should not be moved forever,

GothamCities:
End of story.

Jesus is not God.