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Children of God already know that this message is not from God.

So I won't bother quoting Jesus speaking about the hypocrites who like to appear godly and addressed with honor and respect.

The command for a believers appearance is HUMILITY AND IN MODERATION.


A guy who plaits his hair, dyes it, does it maybe for his job or so and appears in moderation and decency and obeys the commands of God, is far better than a false preacher with low cut wearing suits costing millions from the stolen money from people in the name of tithe and seed.


A honourable man dressed poorly is better than a thief dressed properly

“My mother is a Muslim, and my father is a Christian. So, growing up together made us believe that all religions are one. When my mum wanted to go to any party, I would go there wearing a hijab. And I dressed the part whenever I went to my dad’s church,” she narrated."

When you grow up confused like those that grow up with 2 dads or 2 moms

Is this man not confused

"The prophet added, “We do not use the name of Jesus to pray in this temple. We only use the teachings of Jesus because he is our teacher. He is our Rabbi, which means teacher. He is the Lord too, which means teacher. Mohammed is the Lord of Islam because he was and still is the person that God (Allah) uses."

Seems like a new redefined trick by the devil to mislead people, because which one is "we only use the teachings of Jesus" whereas "you don't use the name Jesus" so how do you then use his teachings, do you call him something else or change his name and steal his teachings. "You don't use it to pray" when he taught to use his name to pray, how are you now using his teachings?

So Jesus is Lord, Mohammed is Lord, we now have a 2 lords religion 🙀

Please who finished reading that o, help others out 😁 with quick summary

Godson1379:
So what exactly are this 7 Spirits? I don't really understand. Be specific please.

the best way to understand is to ask God to send you the Holy Spirit, who teaches us all things.

Well I erased what I wrote because I have no reason to answer and also you should used this as a reason to study your Bibles with the Holy Spirit

Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. Philippians 3: 12 - 14

Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. Philippians 3: 12 - 14

Nachmonides:
Isaiah 11:2 (KJV):
"And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord."

1,2,3,4,5,6 and 7

I wonder how it is counted as 7

When it is clearly just 4 times the spirit is mentioned, why is the spirit mentioned four times and it is the spirit, the spirit, like the very same spirit four times or acting three times after resting on him.

Maybe it has to do with seven candle lampstand that looks like it is made up of four sticks. I am just assuming here

I also count it one to seven as well 😁 but as one, like the lampstand with seven candle sticks

Nachmonides:
No I don't believe the holy spirit is one of the seven spirits.

I believe the holy spirit is an embodiment of all seven spirits.

😊 there you have it

You see one more reason the spirit or spirits of God is not god or gods

Godson1379:
This Seven Spirits of God , are they Angelic beings or what exactly?

well God does make his angels spirit
Ps.104.4 Who makes His angels spirits, His ministers a flame of fire.

7 fires, 7 spirits, 7 angels

Truthseeker10:
Oga so Abraham's forefathers are in heaven and Jesus said no one as ascended into heaven in John 3:13? 🤣🤣🤣 na wa oo.

We are talking about people going to heaven before Jesus came to earth. I don't understand the point of your question.

2Kgs.2.1 - When the LORD was about to take Elijah up to heaven in a whirlwind, Elijah and Elisha were traveling from Gilgal.
2Kgs.2.11 - As they were walking along and talking, suddenly a chariot of fire appeared, drawn by horses of fire. It drove between them, separating them, and Elijah was carried by a whirlwind into heaven.

Nachmonides:
Honestly, I don't really understand why you would say the seventh day represents the holy day (Sabbath), which is true, in your explanation of the seven spirits.
Hence my question. Seven is symbolic as far as I know in biblical studies.

okay you know it is symbolic, what is perfect, what is whole, complete, holy

Lol, you mistakenly asked the same thing twice
"is the Holy Spirit that was sent not one of the seven spirits, or is the holy spirit a part of the seven spirits,"

Shows that you believe the Holy Spirit is one of the seven spirits but don't forget the verse you quoted

Romans 8:11 (NIV):
"And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you."


Well we may not have all seven in us ba but not like it matters if it's only the seventh that we have, abi?

Truthseeker10:
Oga since you are forcing in the flesh to John 3:13, How did Abraham get to heaven?

Gen.15.15 Now as for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried at a good old age.

Shalom, go and learn what Shalom means and why it's a greeting among the Jews.

Now answer me, did your Jesus not come in the flesh?

Nachmonides:
I meant to ask, is the Holy Spirit that was sent not one of the seven spirits, or is the holy spirit a part of the seven spirits, or is the seven spirits something symbolic?

when you read this in that post "You know, the seventh day represents the Holy day." What did you think I meant?

Truthseeker10:
Oga where does that verse say in the flesh?

So what part of them went to heaven? Please back up with bible verse.

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 1 John 4: 1 - 2

Did your Jesus not come in the flesh?

Nachmonides:
If the Revelation 5:6 clearly says he sent forth the seven spirits into every part of the earth.

Question: Is it that the Holy Spirit that was sent is not the seven spirits or is it?

retype this your question.

Are you asking if the seven spirits in Jesus is Holy or that the seven spirits sent to every part of the earth is not the Holy spirit sent to churches?

That's true, why don't you tell us, seeing as you believe the Holy Spirit is god, are the seven spirits gods as well?

Truthseeker10:
Oga where does that verse say in the flesh?

So what part of them went to heaven? Please back up with bible verse.

did your Jesus come in the Spirit?

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 1 John 4: 1 - 2

Truthseeker10:
Oya tell me the Hebrew word present there na

check your mentions, if you can't it's not me that will look for it again for you. If you need it find it.

Truthseeker10:
Where did you get your version of NLT from. It does not sit well with the Kjv that you also posted. Enjoy the translations below


So which of the heaven is Jesus and the thief in🤣🤣🤣🤣?

no one has entered heaven in the flesh because no one came from heaven in the flesh, except Jesus. It's a very simple verse you asked me to explain to you or did you not ask me to teach it to you?

Godson1379:
I understood everything you wrote except the last statement .

Seven Spirits of God ? How? Where? Is this seven Spirits different or same with the Holy Spirit? and finally, Can you back this up with scriptures please? Thanks alot 🙏

lol okay

Zech.3.9 For behold, the stone That I have laid before Joshua: Upon the stone are seven eyes. Behold, I will engrave its inscription,' Says the LORD of hosts, "And I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.

Well the stone is Jesus, the branch, God's servant, the lamb.

Rev.5.6 I looked and I saw a Lamb that had been killed but was now standing between the throne and the four living beings and among the twenty-four elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God that are sent out into every part of the earth.

And God sent us the Holy Spirit.

You know, the seventh day represents the Holy day.

Truthseeker10:
Oga which of the Hebrew word is present in Ecclesiastics 9:5?

boy don't you know it was written in Hebrew language?

Truthseeker10:
If Paradise is in heaven, explain John 3:13.....where did Abraham go when he died?

John.3.13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. (NKJV)

John.3.13 For only I, the Son of Man, have come to earth and will return to heaven again. (NLT)

When Jesus was speaking was he in heaven? No
Did he ascend to heaven? Yes
Did he come down from heaven? Yes

Did anyone ever ascend into heaven? No

Why? Because Jesus was the first in body to ascend to heaven.

Was Jesus exalted? Yes

To a higher place? Yes

Higher than where he was before? Yes

Is there heaven above heaven? Yes

Is there a place where the righteous have been awaiting the coming of Jesus? Yes

Was God above them? Yes

Did Jesus see God and get sent by God? Yes

Did he return to where he came from? Yes

Did God glorify and give him a place besides Him? Yes

What about those in paradise? They were redeemed as well?

Where is that in the bible? Read it all, especially revelation

Truthseeker10:
What is the Hebrew word for 'know'?

did you check the four Hebrew words I sent to you?

Truthseeker10:
Then rest

🤣

Truthseeker10:
Are you ready to answer or not?

why should I?

Truthseeker10:
Oga what part of the body sustains the memory?

as your Oga shouldn't you answer me first?

Truthseeker10:
Ecclesiastics 9:5 below

Douay-Rheims Bible
For the living know that they shall die, but the dead know nothing more, neither have they a reward any more: for the memory of them is forgotten.

okay so there is none that translated it to mean consciousness? Yes or No.

Truthseeker10:
What part of his body sustained the memory?

Below is Psalms 146:4

King James Bible
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

Ps.146.4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing. (NIV)

Ps.146.4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing. (NIV)

Could you download a Hebrew Bible as well, and a Septuagint? please use Google like you did previously when getting more translations or don't you want to?

Truthseeker10:
Are you saying the word 'bosom' means 'side'?

Does Luke account mention paradise?

Where is this paradise located if it's not in heaven?

Luke.16.22 "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. (NIV)
Luke.16.22 Finally, the beggar died and was carried by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried, (NLT)

Don't you have other versions of bible?

Can you download a Greek text or Google?

Who told you paradise is not in heaven?

Did you read paradise in Luke's account?

Truthseeker10:
So where did the rich man get the knowledge to ask for water?

from his conscious memory of his time on earth.

There's nothing to learn or knowledge there. Wasn't he ignorant that it was impossible for him to gain help from the otherside, ignorant of what he could get where he was. Apart from his memory of his life on earth, the knowledge to help him where he was, did he have it? Was there anyone to teach me, as a new born would be taught when they entered this world?

Was there something in hell for him to learn, know and do?

Nachmonides:
I quoted the bible to explain translation.

So you believe Enoch and Elijah entered heaven, translated, in their physical bodies?
Yes or No

You have not changed 🤣

Truthseeker10:
Where is this paradise? Does the account in Luke mention paradise or Abraham's bosom?

Abraham's bossom is Abraham's side, so if he is besides Abraham then where is Abraham? As Jesus himself said in Matt.22.32 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."

So where do you think they are, in death or in paradise? Paradise where Jesus said he and that repentant criminal would be that day.