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cosiocan:Rev.16.13 And I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs leap from the mouth of the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. Trinity the father who actually is devil his son who claims to be God, the beast And the false prophet Rev.13.1 - And now in my vision I saw a beast rising up out of the sea. It had seven heads and ten horns, with ten crowns on its horns. And written on each head were names that blasphemed God. Rev.13.2 - This beast looked like a leopard, but it had bear's feet and a lion's mouth! And the dragon gave him his own power and throne and great authority. Rev.13.3 - I saw that one of the heads of the beast seemed wounded beyond recovery--but the fatal wound was healed! All the world marveled at this miracle and followed the beast in awe. Rev.13.4 - They worshiped the dragon for giving the beast such power, and they worshiped the beast. "Is there anyone as great as the beast?" they exclaimed. "Who is able to fight against him?" Rev.13.5 - Then the beast was allowed to speak great blasphemies against God. And he was given authority to do what he wanted for forty-two months. Rev.13.6 - And he spoke terrible words of blasphemy against God, slandering his name and all who live in heaven, who are his temple. Rev.13.7 - And the beast was allowed to wage war against God's holy people and to overcome them. And he was given authority to rule over every tribe and people and language and nation. Rev.13.8 - And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life, which belongs to the Lamb who was killed before the world was made. This beast is the false Christ worshipped as god and accepted by many churches as god the son And then the false prophet the one who is their god the spirit Rev.13.11 - Then I saw another beast come up out of the earth. He had two horns like those of a lamb, and he spoke with the voice of a dragon. Rev.13.12 - He exercised all the authority of the first beast. And he required all the earth and those who belong to this world to worship the first beast, whose death-wound had been healed. Rev.13.13 - He did astounding miracles, such as making fire flash down to earth from heaven while everyone was watching. Rev.13.14 - And with all the miracles he was allowed to perform on behalf of the first beast, he deceived all the people who belong to this world. He ordered the people of the world to make a great statue of the first beast, who was fatally wounded and then came back to life. Rev.13.15 - He was permitted to give life to this statue so that it could speak. Then the statue commanded that anyone refusing to worship it must die. Rev.13.16 - He required everyone--great and small, rich and poor, slave and free--to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead. Rev.13.17 - And no one could buy or sell anything without that mark, which was either the name of the beast or the number representing his name. |
Splinz:it is sad that people like this are few but liars like johnnw are very much active destroying lives |
They are all liars from their trinity gospel to their tithing and money making schemes Every church that believes in the Trinity is of the devil |
cosiocan:Almost ten years difference and the word is still new today as it was that day, the Holy Spirit is speaking, do you hear what the spirit is saying? |
Answer: Jesus warned us that “false Christs and false prophets” will come and will attempt to deceive even God’s elect (Matthew 24:23-27; see also 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 17-18). The best way to guard yourself against falsehood and false teachers is to know the truth. To spot a counterfeit, study the real thing. Any believer who “correctly handles the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15) and who makes a careful study of the Bible can identify false doctrine. For example, a believer who has read the activities of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Matthew 3:16-17 will immediately question any doctrine that denies the Trinity. Therefore, step one is to study the Bible and judge all teaching by what the Scripture says.When false teachers try to teach others about false teachers and false prophets or raise prayer points against them, it will confuse you into thinking o this guy can't be false he is praying against those who are false. 😏 They will justify their own falsehood and attack lesser known unaccepted false teachers, didn't the phrasisees and Sadducees argue and accuse each other So saying, "will immediately question any doctrine that denies the Trinity." Will mislead you into accepting the doctrine of trinity without you even verifying if it's God's word and doctrine |
blueAgent:No matter how much the devil tries to bury the truth with a lie called trinity, the truth will not change and the truth remains, Jesus is the son of God. I removed a lot of important information from this article, if you want to read it, click on it and go to the original post Because a lie is publicly accepted doesn't make it the truth, every church founded on that lie called trinity is of the devil 1 John 4 the Living Bible [1] Dearly loved friends, don’t always believe everything you hear just because someone says it is a message from God: test it first to see if it really is. For there are many false teachers around, [2] and the way to find out if their message is from the Holy Spirit is to ask: Does it really agree that Jesus Christ, God’s Son, actually became man with a human body? If so, then the message is from God. [3] If not, the message is not from God but from one who is against Christ, like the Antichrist you have heard about who is going to come, and his attitude of enmity against Christ is already abroad in the world. [4] Dear young friends, you belong to God and have already won your fight with those who are against Christ because there is someone in your hearts who is stronger than any evil teacher in this wicked world. [5] These men belong to this world, so, quite naturally, they are concerned about worldly affairs and the world pays attention to them. [6] But we are children of God; that is why only those who have walked and talked with God will listen to us. Others won’t. That is another way to know whether a message is really from God; for if it is, the world won’t listen to it. |
herlecks:This truth has been testified here, but who believes our testimony when majority of the churches are founded on the Nicene creed, the nicolaitans doctrine Ah, no wonder John wrote 1 John 4 the Living Bible [1] Dearly loved friends, don’t always believe everything you hear just because someone says it is a message from God: test it first to see if it really is. For there are many false teachers around, [2] and the way to find out if their message is from the Holy Spirit is to ask: Does it really agree that Jesus Christ, God’s Son, actually became man with a human body? If so, then the message is from God. [3] If not, the message is not from God but from one who is against Christ, like the Antichrist you have heard about who is going to come, and his attitude of enmity against Christ is already abroad in the world. [4] Dear young friends, you belong to God and have already won your fight with those who are against Christ because there is someone in your hearts who is stronger than any evil teacher in this wicked world. [5] These men belong to this world, so, quite naturally, they are concerned about worldly affairs and the world pays attention to them. [6] But we are children of God; that is why only those who have walked and talked with God will listen to us. Others won’t. That is another way to know whether a message is really from God; for if it is, the world won’t listen to it. |
1 John 4 the Living Bible [1] Dearly loved friends, don’t always believe everything you hear just because someone says it is a message from God: test it first to see if it really is. For there are many false teachers around, [2] and the way to find out if their message is from the Holy Spirit is to ask: Does it really agree that Jesus Christ, God’s Son, actually became man with a human body? If so, then the message is from God. [3] If not, the message is not from God but from one who is against Christ, like the Antichrist you have heard about who is going to come, and his attitude of enmity against Christ is already abroad in the world. [4] Dear young friends, you belong to God and have already won your fight with those who are against Christ because there is someone in your hearts who is stronger than any evil teacher in this wicked world. [5] These men belong to this world, so, quite naturally, they are concerned about worldly affairs and the world pays attention to them. [6] But we are children of God; that is why only those who have walked and talked with God will listen to us. Others won’t. That is another way to know whether a message is really from God; for if it is, the world won’t listen to it. ![]() |
Isa.44.25 I (YHVH) am the one who exposes the false prophets as liars by causing events to happen that are contrary to their predictions. I cause wise people to give bad advice, thus proving them to be fools. Ezekiel.13. "Son of man, speak against the false prophets of Israel who are inventing their own prophecies. Tell them to listen to the word of the LORD. This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Destruction is certain for the false prophets who are following their own imaginations and have seen nothing at all! Instead, they have lied and said, `My message is from the LORD,' even though the LORD never sent them. And yet they expect him to fulfill their prophecies! Can your visions be anything but false if you claim, `This message is from the LORD,' when I have not even spoken to you? "Therefore, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because what you say is false and your visions are a lie, I will stand against you, says the Sovereign LORD. "These evil prophets deceive my people by saying, `All is peaceful!' when there is no peace at all! It's as if the people have built a flimsy wall, and these prophets are trying to hold it together by covering it with whitewash! "Now, son of man, also speak out against the women who prophesy from their own imaginations. This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Destruction is certain for you women who are ensnaring the souls of my people, both young and old alike. You tie magic charms on their wrists and furnish them with magic veils. Do you think you can trap others without bringing destruction on yourselves? You turn my people away from me for a few handfuls of barley or a piece of bread. By lying to my people who love to listen to lies, you kill those who should not die, and you promise life to those who should not live. "And so the Sovereign LORD says: I am against all your magic charms, which you use to ensnare my people like birds. I will tear them from your arms, setting my people free like birds set free from a cage. I will tear off the magic veils and save my people from your grasp. They will no longer be your victims. Then you will know that I am the LORD. You have discouraged the righteous with your lies, when I didn't want them to suffer grief. And you have encouraged the wicked by promising them life, even though they continue in their sins. But you will no longer talk of seeing visions that you never saw, nor will you practice your magic. For I will rescue my people from your grasp. Then you will know that I am the LORD." May God rescue His people in Jesus name What about the others? Hmmm, well, it is well if you answer God's call today then you are chosen by God to be one of His people, but the promise of salvation is for His people. |
"You can enter God's Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose the easy way. But the gateway to life is small, and the road is narrow, and only a few ever find it. Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep, but are really wolves that will tear you apart. Not all people who sound religious are really godly. They may refer to me as 'Lord,' but they still won't enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The decisive issue is whether they obey my Father in heaven. On judgment day many will tell me, 'Lord, Lord, we prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.' But I will reply, 'I never knew you. Go away; the things you did were unauthorized. ' From Matthew 7 |
Luke.6.26 What sorrows await you who are praised by the crowds, for their ancestors also praised false prophets. If you don't understand go and read the scriptures or at least read sent prophets vs prophets of the people by phch https://www.nairaland.com/8319388/sent-prophets-versus-prophets-israel#133750281 Luke.21.8 - He replied, "Don't let anyone mislead you. For many will come in my name, claiming to be anointed and saying, 'The time has come!' But don't believe them. "God" said to him “The time has come to liberate the world from all oppressions of the devil through the preaching of the Word of Faith, and I am sending you to undertake this task.” Now if you think this is Jesus speaking I won't blame you 😁😊, well this is what the true anointed sent by the one true God said “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because YHVH has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the captives and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the time of the Lord’s favor.” Luke 4: 18 - 19 When Jesus himself warns you before hand not to believe them but you say, Jesus said as God sent me so send I you. Jesus did not send us to die for sins. But this god here is saying the time has come to liberate the world from ALL, wait what did Jesus Christ now do. Because if who the son has set free is free indeed what exactly is to be freed again? So is it that the time didn't come before and God then same and in 18hrs said the time in now So here comes a man with many covenants, false humility and doctrine of devil's, being deceived and commissioned by the devil, with many signs and wonders of which many believe and are lead astray because of them. The Papa preparing his son to inherit his kingdom, who said job was not covered because he did not tithe, teaching wisdom not from God. |
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock[b] I will build my church[/b], and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Jesus builds his church Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. Ephesians 2: 19 - 21 As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 1 Peter 2: 4 - 5 What harmony can there be between Christ and the Devil? How can a believer be a partner with an unbeliever? And what union can there be between God's temple and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God said: "I will live in them and walk among them. I will be their God, and they will be my people. Therefore, come out from them and separate yourselves from them, says the Lord. Don't touch their filthy things, and I will welcome you. And I will be your Father, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty. " 2 Corinthians 6:15-18 |
Mark.13.2 Jesus replied, "These magnificent buildings will be so completely demolished that not one stone will be left on top of another." 5&6 And Jesus began to tell them, Be careful and watchful that no one misleads you because many will come in my name, claiming to be anointed. They will lead many astray. 22&23 They will rise up and perform miraculous signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God's chosen ones. So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time. |
Even the dumb get saved, even the dumb pray If you sincerely believe that mere confession would save you, then who ever taught you that is helping the devil destroy you. Believe doesn't lead only to confession either of your sins or that Jesus is Lord but true believe leads to obedience to God, and to the one true God revealed by his son Jesus Christ. |
No matter how many times you shout or call the name Jesus you will not get saved, salvation is through the name of Jesus by being baptized in his name, believing in Jesus and obeying his words, believing that the son of God who died and rose is our Lord and Christ and obeying the commandments to love God and love others as yourself. And what is the will and commands of God 1John.3.21 - Dear friends, if our conscience is clear, we can come to God with bold confidence. 22 - And we will receive whatever we request because we obey him and do the things that please him. 23 - And this is his commandment: We must believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as he commanded us. 24 - Those who obey God's commandments live in fellowship with him, and he with them. And we know he lives in us because the Holy Spirit lives in us. We should know that to believe in the name of Jesus doesn't mean to call upon the name of Jesus. To call upon a name is to pray to that name or person. A name signifies authority, authority has been given to Jesus but does that mean God doesn't have authority anymore, no it doesn't. To believe in a name, is to believe in that person's authority. |
gohf:In truth THEY WERE NEVER SENT BY GOD OR HIS SON IN THE FIRST PLACE |
Instead of believing and turning to the one true sovereign YHVH, the Almighty Most High God, the creator of heavens and earth. They want you to believe that God became three persons, Father, son and Holy Spirit, so what happened to God when he became three persons doesn't that mean they are saying God doesn't exist but what exists are three gods. |
No matter their back and forth, do not forget the point, the Holy Spirit is not YHVH God |
Steep:you ignore the teachings of the truth to hold fast to your false beliefs that a man who was the servant of God and God's son is God himself. The reason you reject the truth is because you are not chosen by God and such knowledge is not for you it is very easy to deceive the likes of you “How long will you who are simple love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge? Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my spirit to you, I will make known to you my teachings. But since you refuse to listen when I call and no one pays attention when I stretch out my hand, since you disregard all my advice and do not accept my rebuke, I in turn will laugh when disaster strikes you; I will mock when calamity overtakes you— when calamity overtakes you like a storm, when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind, when distress and trouble overwhelm you. “Then they will call to me but I will not answer; they will look for me but will not find me, since they hated knowledge and did not choose to fear YHVH. Since they would not accept my advice and spurned my rebuke, they will eat the fruit of their ways and be filled with the fruit of their schemes. For the waywardness of the simple will kill them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them; but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of harm.” Proverbs 1: 22 - 33 |
Steep:You will not read so how will you learn, you will not listen so how will you obey https://www.nairaland.com/8320142/calling-upon-name-jesus-not The one called son of God is not god the son, God made Jesus Lord and not god the son, whoever is god the son is an associate of darkness, claiming to be God, the false christ coming to the world. John 20:31 that you may believe that Jesus is the son of God and not that you should believe that Jesus is God. But where will your lies end, when will the deceit be finished, it will be after the false Christ has been revealed and accepted then Jesus Christ appears in God's glory and destroys it. how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him. He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.” Acts 10: 38 - 43. And yet though Peter says God anointed Jesus, he doesn't add the heresy that and Jesus became God or he healed because he was God in the flesh, what he said is God was with him. God gave the son of man power to forgive sins. and because even the levitical priests could do so, he being greater and our high priest is more than capable to take away our sins. |
Steep:😂🤣 because I said Jesus is not Jehovah, Jesus is the way to YHVH. Heresies about God is that you claim God lied and that He isn't the Sovereign God but there are two others equal gods to him 2Pet.2.2 - Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of them, Christ and his true way will be slandered. 2Pet.2.3 - In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction is on the way. You collect and claim to pay tithes God never asked nor commanded you for, making up clever lies with scripture to enrich yourself -windows of heaven will up not treasures you expect but a flood to destroy those who lie against God and use his name in vain. 1John.4.2 This is the way to find out if they have the Spirit of God: If a prophet acknowledges that Jesus Christ became a human being, that person has the Spirit of God. But you all claim Jesus is God and was God and not a human, you lie that he became both God and human, but here is states that Jesus became human. 1John.4.5 - These people belong to this world, so they speak from the world's viewpoint, and the world listens to them. (6) - But we belong to God; that is why those who know God listen to us. If they do not belong to God, they do not listen to us. That is how we know if someone has the Spirit of truth or the spirit of deception. They told there are three gods you believed, yet when the true God speaks to you through us, you refuse to listen because you do not know Him. You have rightly quoted, 2Tim.3.8 And these teachers fight the truth just as Jannes and Jambres fought against Moses. Their minds are depraved, and their faith is counterfeit. For their own gains but to the end their destruction, they withstood him who God has chosen, trying to lead the people to destruction with their lies. But you see Paul was even clearer about such people Yes, and everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. But evil people and impostors will flourish. They will go on deceiving others, and they themselves will be deceived. 2 Timothy 3:12-13 Now because you are excelling in your evil ways and believe doesn't mean you are right, but the more you deceive others to go against God's word the more you deceive yourself as well 2Tim.4.3 - For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to right teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever they want to hear. (4)- They will reject the truth and follow strange myths. Have you all not rejected the truth that Jesus is the son of God, God's faithful, righteous and true servant but believe and follow strange stories and myths, calculations and formulations of men, fables of gods, and a god the son. Are you not supposed to learn from scripture and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you. Deuteronomy 13: 2 - 5 Yet you follow the said evil willingly because of the signs and wonders you lust after. If you will not turn to the one true God through his son Jesus Christ who will save you?! |
All these ones are false anointed ones and false prophets |
Have you ever heard some pulpit speakers, quote Psalms 105:15, touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm. And then say they are untouchable Well 1 Chronicles 16:22 and Psalm 105:15 speaks about God's protection on Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, because even when there were threats and harms, God delivered them. And deliverance being the key word, in that the people of Israel where actually oppressed and harmed but God delivered them. God's anointed and His Prophet, Jesus was harmed and killed but God delivered him. Abraham Isaac Jacob were not untouchable they were delivered and protected by God and indeed God rebuked those who hurt them. So where did this feeling of being untouchable come from. Oh don't speak against him or them, they are anointed. Do NOTE we are not to touch or harm God's anointed, David didn't harm Saul so I am not here to harm anybody but to share God's word. Anyway Matthew 24, Jesus says something very interesting here 4 - Jesus told them, "Don't let anyone mislead you. 5 - For many will come in my name, saying, 'I am the Messiah.' They will lead many astray. At first when you read this, you think many people will come out and claim they are THE Christ but then people will think they are crazy, because there can only be one Christ so why should the disciples of Jesus be careful when they already know that. Well, what if we read it this way Jesus told them, "Don't let anyone mislead you. For many will come in my name, saying, 'I am anointed.' They will lead many astray. Wait did we forget that Christ and Messiah means anointed?! Jesus tells his disciples who were wowed by beautiful structures to be careful of those who will come IN HIS NAME claiming to be ANOINTED So they are not speaking against Jesus and claiming that Jesus is fake and they are the real Christ, NO, they come in his name, in the name of Jesus, saying they are anointed You know Matthew 24 wasn't the first time Jesus was asked about the temple, and the temple is a place of worship and when Jesus says it will be destroyed. The first thought may be, then where do we worship, isn't this supposed to be the glorious temple with greater glory. LA fire someone posted that God protected a church building, it goes to show how much value we give to "structures" but Jesus rejected the temple, and the mountain and told the Samaritan woman the time is coming when the TRUE worshippers will worship IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH not on mountains or in temples. That's just crazy, Jesus could have said go to the temple, be in spirit hear the truth and worship God. Like how many times does Jesus have to reject the temple before we get it, Stephen literally got arrested for this, Acts 6:13. Matt.24.11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. (12) And because iniquity shall increase, the love of many shall wax cold. Now if you don't know what Iniquity is, and that it is connected to idolatry, check my messages on nairaland and telegram on iniquity, it is because until you understand what it is, you will realize and see why the love of many have gone cold and how this is brought about by false prophets, of whom God spoke about in Deuteronomy 13. Many will turn away from the true faith, because they are offended, Jesus isn't doing what I want, they will betray and hate each other. Meanwhile the gospel will spread globally. Let me paraphrase from verse 23 "Then if anyone says to you, "Look, here is an anointed one here or an anointing here!' or "There!' do not believe it. For false anointed ones and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect, God's chosen ones--if that were possible. See, I have warned you. Don't believe it, don't go and look for them. Has anyone ever invited you for an anointing and miracle service where is not one true word of God there or only the corrupted versions and you were not deceived? Well would I say lucky you, even though it's not about luck but about the fact that it is because you are one of God's chosen ones. Should I start from experience how this men say they received power from another man and not from God or those who claimed to have received it from God don't even know God's word. When someone asks how can there be so much miracles and still so much errors, well it's because they are the false anointed ones. |
When you don't know the true identity of the son of God, you will believe a false one |
Okay I will call upon the name of Yahweh or Jehovah so that I can guarantee my salvation, you better calm down till I teach Joel 2, even from that verse 32 alone, you see that there's something occuring that makes that condition and promise available. Have you not read, Prov.1.28-29 "Then they will call on me, but I will not answer; They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me. Because they hated knowledge And did not choose the fear of the LORD, Stop looking for an easy road to heaven, you will end up in hell that way, BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER WAY AND NO EASY ROAD TO HEAVEN. STOP DAYDREAMING |
Someone tells you call upon the name of the Lord and you will be saved, and you call upon the name of Jesus and go around believing you are saved, whereas you are not. You believe you are saved so you don't have to obey the commandments, you don't have to give, to love, to pray, to wait. You believe it soo much, you even did miracles and wonders in his name. At this point I remember what Jesus said in Matthew 7, calling me Lord lord will not save you if you do not do the will of God. If you like call Jesus Yahweh, call him Jehovah, do all the miracles in his name, you will not be saved does it mean serving God is pointless, first off you were not serving God, God never forgets our labor of love. When we say call upon the name of YHVH, we mean pray to Him and He saves us by sending us salvation, Jesus. Jesus can only save and keep those whom our Father God has chosen to be saved. Jesus has received the authority to protect and cover them but not predestine those to be saved, and also to judge the rest with God's judgement. John 17:9-12 That's why we are children of God, not children of Jesus, we receive God's gift of eternal life through the death of Jesus whom God gave life to, and we receive it as an inheritance, becoming co-heirs with Christ Jesus our Lord, like a bride who receives an inheritance at the death of our husband. (I wish I could quote every single verse that agrees with what I am writing) When we speak about the name of Jesus we speak about the authority given to Jesus When Jesus resurrected he received complete authority over death, for our resurrection into eternal life. To understand the difference, is Lazarus who was resurrected could still die, but whoever is resurrected on that day, will not die. You need to understand the authority Jesus had on earth before he resurrected, and God who gave it to him, because it is that authority given to Jesus while on earth that Jesus gave to we believers who live on this earth. even though Jesus had that authority he prayed consistently to God. Let's not talk about that you always want we ministers of God to pray for you, because what is at stake is the salvation of your souls while you continue in an error that leads to destruction and not salvation. So on authority from Christ, the name of Jesus. We saw earlier Peter who exercised that authority of Jesus's name and the power of God's word. And we need to realize that receiving authority from God doesn't make us equal to God. Even Jesus who received all authority in heaven and earth that will pass away doesn't have God's authority which is above heaven and earth, and can destroy heaven and earth with His coming. Jesus doesn't even consider himself equal to God, but some with smaller power and authority are dreaming themselves to be a god. Jesus that is at the right side of God is called God's servant, God's son, our high priest and not God but our brother. the fact that our Lord Jesus calls himself our brother should humble us |
gohf:Jesus is clearly saying here, don't ask me, ask God. Don't call upon me, call upon God, pray to God. Praying in the name of Jesus doesn't mean asking Jesus to pray for you. Jesus intercedes for us as our high priest not because we ask him to. And by the authority of Jesus we approach God boldly, Hebrews 4. Jesus is not the destination, Jesus is the way, that's why those believe in Jesus are called followers of the way, our goal is to return to God, to go to God, there was no way before till Jesus came, there was a veil and the only way is Jesus because he is the only one sent by God for this purpose. He reveals God to us and In John 16:25, Jesus said then I will reveal the Father clearly. |
gohf:More verses of Jesus teaching to show who he tells us to pray to John.15.16 - You didn't choose me. I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce fruit that will last, so that the Father will give you whatever you ask for, using my name. We use the name of Jesus to ask the Father, and I want us to remember we didn't choose Jesus, we didn't even choose ourselves. God choose Jesus and brought us to him, and we are chosen. Many are called, few are chosen, Matthew 22:14. For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn, with many brothers and sisters. And having chosen them, he called them to come to him. And he gave them right standing with himself, and he promised them his glory. Romans 8:29-30 A chosen generation,... called out of darkness 1 Peter 2:9 I want you to note that Jesus called for repentance, for men to turn to God and then God draws people to Jesus, so when Jesus calls, it is those whom God draws that go to him and respond to him. We will still see that in other verses. Okay one more place that shows we pray to the Father and not call upon Jesus. At that time you won't need to ask me for anything. The truth is, you can go directly to the Father and ask him, and he will grant your request because you use my name. You haven't done this before. Ask, using my name, and you will receive, and you will have abundant joy. Then you will ask in my name. I'm not saying I will ask the Father on your behalf,.. John 16:23,24,26. |
John.14.16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever-- without even God's permission Jesus cannot send the Holy Spirit, it's only with God's permission Jesus does anything and that's what makes Jesus perfect. And if anything, here in John and also in Luke.11.13 If you sinful people know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him." we see what we should ask for and receive, and that is the Holy Spirit. |
gohf:Let's go through some of Jesus's teachings John.14.13-14 - You can ask for anything in my name, and I will do it, because the work of the Son brings glory to the Father. Yes, ask anything in my name, and I will do it! Now do you read, "you can ask ME" you don't. What Jesus will do isn't because you ask him but because the Father commands him, and thank God there are more verses records what Jesus says and whom you are asking. |
You may say, well Paul said in 1 Corinthians 1 that we call upon the name of Jesus, my immediate response is, does Paul say why? Did he say doing so will save you? Infact, epikalesētai and epikaloumenois are two different terms with the same root epikaleó, the one used in Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13 is epikalesētai call upon, while 1 Corinthians 1:2 uses epikaloumenois, which I believe means "proclaiming" Jesus. Now read it like this: 1Cor.1.2 To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who proclaim the name of our Lord Jesus Christ--their Lord and ours: And here to proclaim Jesus is to honor him not to pray to him, but if you won't accept well you will continue praying to him |
gohf:Praying to Jesus won't save you, we pray through Jesus to the Father. Jesus never taught us to Pray to him, but to our Father God. Our Father who is in heaven, holy is your name. When we say "in Jesus name" it means we are calling upon God and coming to Him through Jesus, the way He established we should approach Him by. Before the resurrection the disciples called upon the Father without the name of Jesus but after his resurrection they had to, because that was the only way to approach the Father. You can't call upon Jehovah without the name of Jesus, and to confess the name of Jesus is to believe that God sent him and glorified him. And so we honor God by acknowledging the honor bestowed upon the son. |
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