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Padipadi:
Then stop talking about Trinity.

So they called the apostles back in and told them never again to speak or teach about Jesus. But Peter and John replied, "Do you think God wants us to obey you rather than him? We cannot stop telling about the wonderful things we have seen and heard."

Padipadi:
A God on earth. Can die but has assurance of resurrection in paradise to have eternal collabo alongside other Gods (human) with the real God (Jehovah).
Reply back sensibly.

so there is the real God (Jehovah) and the fake gods(human)

That's true, it should be fake gods and not false gods, because there is NO other GOD BESIDES HIM

Truthseeker10:
I have been begging Nachmonides to present the codes of trinity but he has refused. It seems that he does not understand it as well. How can someone teach what he does not understand?

we may end up in a never ending deceptive wait like he the responses he claimed he was going to give but on the positive side, it may not be an easy program to run and the app may be having issues now.

So let's wait he may succeed in manufacturing what we know to be a lie 😂

Padipadi:
Giving to babalawo and dibias is different from tithing. You're a confused balablue.
Christianity has tithing. Not compulsory but it's part of what you should do as a Christian if you have the capacity.
You have been obsessed as you give heresy in writeups on this forum.
It's better to keep quiet than to be eroding the site.

your christianity is a religion made up with rules and laws taught by men

Tithing under the laws of Moses are to the levitical priest

Jesus never taught his disciples to collect tithe nor commanded them to do so, so those who are doing so are not followers of the way Christ Jesus.

You call them heresies, not surprised your forefathers did the same around 300AD and you are more bothered about the site while my concern is about the souls being mislead and following the broadway who are entering the gates of hell.

Now one quote which someone else may use is
Isa.25.8 He will swallow up death forever! The Sovereign LORD will wipe away all tears. He will remove forever all insults and mockery against his land and people. The LORD has spoken!

It's obvious someone who believes the Father YHVH is Jesus would believe that this is Jesus here

But like I always say, let's read 😁
Heb.5.7 During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. (NIV)

One prayer I would like to repeat here as well is
May God give someone reading this the wisdom that the wicked cannot gainsay Luke 21:15

Luke.21.15 for I will give you the right words and such wisdom that none of your opponents will be able to reply!

And God is faithful there was no reply, he was unable to reply

Luke.21.15 I'll give you the words and wisdom that will reduce all your accusers to stammers and stutters. (message bible)

Luke.21.15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom which all your adversaries will not be able to contradict or resist. (NKJV)

And indeed the adversary, the accuser could not contradict but keep on accusing and condemning

Truthseeker10:
gohf and steep come and see what Nachmonides is saying about what a person needs to understand Trinity oo. So a layman who does not understand programming languages cannot understand Trinity oo🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Nachmonides I gave you a simple sketch of the Trinity diagram that I found on the internet. You claim that it was not correct. Why can't you provide a simple sketch that explains the error. Is it that you don't also understand this Trinity concept?

when last did I study or have anything do with programming 😀 but I can't say it has anything to do with programming but if nachmonides wants to use the logic behind it to show trinity I have already stated that his logic is false because even a compute might blow up after programming that the word was with God and the word was God therefore the word is God. It will break the basic logic circuits expect one purposely programs that to be the output, then that's a manipulated logic not based on standard logic.

For example saying God is greater than Jesus so therefore Jesus is equal to God.

I look forward to his response, please tag me when he does

Padipadi:
If you blv I. Holy Spirit then you should be in sync with Trinity. Do you blv in Trinity?

I don't believe in trinity, the Nicene creed, the doctrine of the nicolaitans which Jesus hates

Padipadi:
I am a child of God. I am God because I am created in God's image. Very similar to the Creator but not as powerful as the Creator.

you are God? A false god I presume that will perish like mortals.

But how come you didn't even make it to the trinity, or should it be quarternity or quadrinity.


Do you all see the results of believing in trinity, the self delusion for a man to say he is God and they will accept the falsechrist the antichrist who blasphemes and declares himself to be God

Padipadi:
If you tithe that's when you have mouth to shook for tithing matter. If you no do am, you keep quiet.

as a minister of God before whom I stand I should keep quiet because you say so?

I should practice an error before I speak against it?

Seeing as you assumed an answer to your question, isn't it safe to say you consider it true that those who give to false gods and not according to God's will, will go to hell

So your answer to this question you avoided "Will you go to hell for giving to a babalawo, native doctors, shrine priests, dibia and the like?"
Is YES, even though it's your money but you did not honor God nor His word with it, but yourselves and your motives. You encouraged and practiced a lie yet you also desire to silent those who speak the truth not based on God's word but based on what you said above that if I don't practice the error I should keep quiet about it.

Now the two questions which I showed were answered and not ignored and I also stated in the evidence I have a copy of, of his behavior and my suspicion of his motive

1) if Jesus is not God, how then and why then is He called, Lord?

2) And based on your Isaiah 33. Did Jesus not confirm that He is coming to Judge?"

Now admitting that I do not believe Jesus is not God but still asking that I accept that Jesus is God speaking in Isaiah 33 which is used as his basis to prove that Jesus is God and is above the law and yet he followed a law even though he says God appoints Jesus by the Melchizedek law.

And Yes I agreed that, Jesus follow a command from God that is higher than the old requirements from Moses but that proves that Jesus serves God and is the son of God and not God.

Now I immediately answered what he called an invalid answer because it doesn't agree with his agenda

1. Lord does not mean God, even Sarah called Abraham lord. Jesus is Lord and husband of the church, his bride.

He used that I wrote a small l to make a point that it is different but refused the difference between LORD and Lord.

Anyway Let's look at the Isaiah 33:22

For the LORD is our judge, our lawgiver, and our king. He will save us.

For us to understand who is been spoken about you check the Hebrew and it is written Yahweh or Jehovah, honestly why did they remove the name of God YHVH.

Isa.33.2 O LORD, be gracious to us; we long for you. Be our strength every morning, our salvation in time of distress.
3 At the thunder of your voice, the peoples flee; when you rise up, the nations scatter.
.5 The LORD is exalted, for he dwells on high; he will fill Zion with justice and righteousness.


And the LORD responded in verse 10, Now will I arise, says the LORD. Now will I lift up Myself; now will I be exalted.

And what does Isaiah record He does, He burns the wicked and sinners up, with consuming eternal fire but salvation to those who are righteous. Then we get to verse 22 and the last verse of the said Isaiah 33
Isa.33.24 No one living in Zion will say, "I am ill"; and the sins of those who dwell there will be forgiven.

Earlier Isaiah wrote in chapter 2
Isa.2.2 In the last days the mountain of the LORD's temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream to it.
Isa.2.3 Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

The law, the word of YHVH who is God, so the word of God and who he is the word of God, Jesus Christ, so God the lawgiver is the One who gave us Jesus Christ our new law, new command and new covenant that agrees with the commandments He God spoke and wrote.

Jesus whom God would appoint as our Judge is revealed in Isaiah 11 which agrees with what Jesus said in John 5 that judgement is given to him but he doesn't judge of himself but receives his judgement from God our Father

Isa.11.3 - He will delight in obeying the LORD. He will never judge by appearance, false evidence, or hearsay.
.4 - He will defend the poor and the exploited. He will rule against the wicked and destroy them with the breath of his mouth.


Now Isa.32.1 See, a king will reign in righteousness and rulers will rule with justice. (NIV)
Prophecies about the coming of the Messiah
Isa.32.1 - Look, a righteous king is coming! And honest princes will rule under him.


Which results to the Spirit been poured upon us in verses 15, which we receive because Jesus ascended. So is Jesus a lawgiver or lawmaker

Jas.4.12 There is one Lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. Who are you to judge another? (NKJV)

Jas.4.12 God alone, who made the law, can rightly judge among us. He alone has the power to save or to destroy. So what right do you have to condemn your neighbor? (NLT)

Jesus rules us by the rule given to him by God.

Do we understand what it means for God to appoint someone and use them. We don't become God because God uses us and speaks through us.

The very issue began with a human misunderstanding the purpose of my sharing a verse from the new testament to show we believers in Christ are not under the laws of Moses

Here is the verse shared

Hebrews:7

[12] And when God sends a new kind of priest, his law must be changed to permit it. As we all know, Christ did not belong to the priest-tribe of Levi, but came from the tribe of Judah, which had not been chosen for priesthood; Moses had never given them that work.
[15] So we can plainly see that God’s method changed, for Christ, the new High Priest who came with the rank of Melchizedek,
[16] did not become a priest by meeting the old requirement of belonging to the tribe of Levi, but on the basis of power flowing from a life that cannot end.
[17] And the psalmist points this out when he says of Christ, You are a priest forever with the rank of Melchizedek.

But a thread was created mentioning me but going against what I believe of which I pointed out, Jesus is the son of God and not God, the anger towards that statement is what has brought us here to where we are today.

We can see here that Jesus is appointed by God through his command and word which is the word and power of life supercede the laws of Moses and bringing it to an end for the laws didn't accommodate the eternal priesthood of Christ.



Currently in the Gate of Hope Fellowship we are studying the book of Hebrews, you are welcomed to join us Wednesdays and Thursdays 8pm

Meanwhile my immediate response was this

"🤣 "stupid unreasonable tricks" would only be believed by those too lazy to read

Jesus Christ is Lord and he is not God our Father who is God alone 😋

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions. Mark 12: 29 - 34"

Janosky was the first to respond and he wrote:

"Is Matthew 16:13-17 in your Bible?

You know more than God inv heaven who gave the revelation to Peter?
Pagans clinging to the delusion invented at Nicene."


Personally nor on nairaland I dont know if janosky knows me but I can't say that unlike the assumption that I am JW something even the max he mentioned has said here that we don't share the same faith. I don't think people have to know each other or be members of same church or group for one to point out the truth. He attempted to isolate me, 😁 some of us have experienced this firsthand from few big mogs and pulpit speakers in nigeria and Dliespeaker ignored the verse from Matthew shared to him

When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. Matthew 16: 13 - 17


The purpose of this thread is to spread the truth, unlike the Dliespeaker who said and I quote, "When we see you opening up to 5 threads trying to force your opinion on others."

If you feel "forced" I apologize like you would read from my posts at times let me say it afresh, it is your soul and your life not mine. My job is to speak the words of life to God's people and that's what I am doing without ulterior motive nor fear of men.

I thank God I posted all the truth in what took me all night to defend the gospel of truth against what seemed to be a public defamation of character and persecution of which he evidently had no positive response or proof till the thread was taken down.
https://www.nairaland.com/8315427/gohf-threads-forever-proof-liar#133692957

Now whether you associate with him or disagree with him, like I already said, it's up to you. I do feel sad that all the truth that I had an opportunity to share was removed as well, I will post pictures of what I preach and taught that warranted the attack. But I feel blessed to be fortunate to have such an opportunity to defend God's word clearly though through a barrage of unrepentant insults.

“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot. “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven. Matthew 5: 11 - 16

Luke.6.22 "Count yourself blessed every time someone cuts you down or throws you out, every time someone smears or blackens your name to discredit me. What it means is that the truth is too close for comfort and that that person is uncomfortable. (MSB)

Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. Luke 6: 22

Nairaland may delete, humans may forget but God's record is eternal except he choices to forget and blot out.

The purpose of this thread is to encourage those who preach the truth against the many celebrated lies that destroy lives and also to share as much as possible what I wrote, preach and teach about Jesus the Son of God.

MindHacker9009:
Jesus was not minor but was very popular then:

1. Crowds Following Jesus for Healing and Teaching
Matthew 4:23-25:
"News about him spread all over Syria, and people brought to him all who were ill... Large crowds from Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea, and the region across the Jordan followed him."

Mark 1:28:
"News about him spread quickly over the whole region of Galilee."

Luke 5:15:
"Yet the news about him spread all the more, so that crowds of people came to hear him and to be healed of their sicknesses."

2. Feeding of the 5,000
John 6:2:
"A great crowd of people followed him because they saw the signs he had performed by healing the sick."

Mark 6:33-34:
"Many who saw them leaving recognized them and ran on foot from all the towns and got there ahead of them. When Jesus landed and saw a large crowd, he had compassion on them..."

3. Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem
Matthew 21:8-9:
"A very large crowd spread their cloaks on the road, while others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted, 'Hosanna to the Son of David!' 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!'"

Luke 19:37-38:
"When he came near the place where the road goes down the Mount of Olives, the whole crowd of disciples began joyfully to praise God in loud voices for all the miracles they had seen."

4. Sermon on the Mount
Matthew 5:1-2:
"Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, and he began to teach them."
5. Jesus' Popularity After Miracles
Matthew 9:8:
"When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to man."

Luke 4:37:
"And the news about him spread throughout the surrounding area."

Mark 2:1-2:
"A few days later, when Jesus again entered Capernaum, the people heard that he had come home. They gathered in such large numbers that there was no room left, not even outside the door, and he preached the word to them."

6. Palm Sunday
John 12:12-13:
"The next day the great crowd that had come for the festival heard that Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem. They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, 'Hosanna!' 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!'"
7. Popularity with the Samaritans
John 4:39-42:
"Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony... So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. And because of his words many more became believers."

so Jesus wasn't a major sect nor a minor sect but you account for his popularity based on records that state he existed before the tie frame you accuse he was made up, because you wrote and I quote, "They invented Jesus Christ after 70 AD to try and stop Jewish revolts. Flavius Josephus was 16 in 37 AD and did not know of Jesus" yet there are records from the same Josephus mentioning the Jesus you claim was made up

And here you reference stories you claim are made to state his popularity yet say "Josephus did not know him"

Could you care to explain to those reading the basis of your changing statements or should we accept that they are based on your personal feelings as we read from what you wrote

"This is why the invented Jesus Christ did not also direct his anger towards the Roman soldiers superiors who came and invaded his homeland, like he always did to his own people even the innocent tree he did not forgive"

Showing your disappointment in his choices brings about a denial of his existence.

Like you wrote and I quote, "Jesus was not minor but was very popular then"

Padipadi:
Do you tithe?

you don't answer a question with a question

First acknowledge the question with an answer then ask yours

Padipadi:
Naaa you should tell us what you see about Holy Spirit.
Is it real or false to you?

the Holy Spirit is real is he is my comforter, who remembers me of the words ot Jesus Christ, the son of God, my teacher, teaching me all truth that sanctifies me and seals me with the seal of salvation, my sanctifier sent by our Father God YHVH after Jesus ascended and he is my helper in prayer and partner in fellowship, making intercessions through me.

Now I have answered you twice here and also elsewhere as well so answer me, what did you understand from what I wrote and what you read?

Padipadi:
It's a case of like Father like Son.
That's what some considered to be calling Jesus as God.

Are you a child of God?
Are you God?

I am hoping you answer without misplacing the case 😊