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MindHacker9009:
Jesus was not minor but was very popular then:

1. Crowds Following Jesus for Healing and Teaching
Matthew 4:23-25:
"News about him spread all over Syria, and people brought to him all who were ill... Large crowds from Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea, and the region across the Jordan followed him."

Mark 1:28:
"News about him spread quickly over the whole region of Galilee."

Luke 5:15:
"Yet the news about him spread all the more, so that crowds of people came to hear him and to be healed of their sicknesses."

2. Feeding of the 5,000
John 6:2:
"A great crowd of people followed him because they saw the signs he had performed by healing the sick."

Mark 6:33-34:
"Many who saw them leaving recognized them and ran on foot from all the towns and got there ahead of them. When Jesus landed and saw a large crowd, he had compassion on them..."

3. Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem
Matthew 21:8-9:
"A very large crowd spread their cloaks on the road, while others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted, 'Hosanna to the Son of David!' 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!'"

Luke 19:37-38:
"When he came near the place where the road goes down the Mount of Olives, the whole crowd of disciples began joyfully to praise God in loud voices for all the miracles they had seen."

4. Sermon on the Mount
Matthew 5:1-2:
"Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, and he began to teach them."
5. Jesus' Popularity After Miracles
Matthew 9:8:
"When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to man."

Luke 4:37:
"And the news about him spread throughout the surrounding area."

Mark 2:1-2:
"A few days later, when Jesus again entered Capernaum, the people heard that he had come home. They gathered in such large numbers that there was no room left, not even outside the door, and he preached the word to them."

6. Palm Sunday
John 12:12-13:
"The next day the great crowd that had come for the festival heard that Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem. They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, 'Hosanna!' 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!'"
7. Popularity with the Samaritans
John 4:39-42:
"Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony... So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. And because of his words many more became believers."

so Jesus wasn't a major sect nor a minor sect but you account for his popularity based on records that state he existed before the tie frame you accuse he was made up, because you wrote and I quote, "They invented Jesus Christ after 70 AD to try and stop Jewish revolts. Flavius Josephus was 16 in 37 AD and did not know of Jesus" yet there are records from the same Josephus mentioning the Jesus you claim was made up

And here you reference stories you claim are made to state his popularity yet say "Josephus did not know him"

Could you care to explain to those reading the basis of your changing statements or should we accept that they are based on your personal feelings as we read from what you wrote

"This is why the invented Jesus Christ did not also direct his anger towards the Roman soldiers superiors who came and invaded his homeland, like he always did to his own people even the innocent tree he did not forgive"

Showing your disappointment in his choices brings about a denial of his existence.

Like you wrote and I quote, "Jesus was not minor but was very popular then"

Padipadi:
Do you tithe?

you don't answer a question with a question

First acknowledge the question with an answer then ask yours

Padipadi:
Naaa you should tell us what you see about Holy Spirit.
Is it real or false to you?

the Holy Spirit is real is he is my comforter, who remembers me of the words ot Jesus Christ, the son of God, my teacher, teaching me all truth that sanctifies me and seals me with the seal of salvation, my sanctifier sent by our Father God YHVH after Jesus ascended and he is my helper in prayer and partner in fellowship, making intercessions through me.

Now I have answered you twice here and also elsewhere as well so answer me, what did you understand from what I wrote and what you read?

Padipadi:
It's a case of like Father like Son.
That's what some considered to be calling Jesus as God.

Are you a child of God?
Are you God?

I am hoping you answer without misplacing the case 😊

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Dtruthspeaker:
This Jesus is God has made the madness of the op show.

See Madness displayed everywhere

😊

The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions. Mark 12: 29 - 34

John.10.36 - why do you call it blasphemy when the Holy One who was sent into the world by the Father says, 'I am the Son of God'?
John.11.27 - "Yes, Lord," she told him. "I have always believed you are the Messiah, the Son of God, the one who has come into the world from God."


John.3.36 - And all who believe in God's Son have eternal life. Those who don't obey the Son will never experience eternal life, but the wrath of God remains upon them."
John.17.3 - And this is the way to have eternal life--to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.


1Cor.8.6 - But we know that there is only one God, the Father, who created everything, and we exist for him. And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything and through whom we have been given life.
1Cor.12.3 - So I want you to know how to discern what is truly from God: No one speaking by the Spirit of God can curse Jesus, and no one is able to say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

Rom.1.4 - And Jesus Christ our Lord was shown to be the Son of God when God powerfully raised him from the dead by means of the Holy Spirit.
2Cor.1.19 - because Jesus Christ, the Son of God, never wavers between yes and no. He is the one whom Timothy, Silas, and I preached to you, and he is the divine Yes--God's affirmation.
Heb.3.6 - But Christ, the faithful Son, was in charge of the entire household. And we are God's household, if we keep up our courage and remain confident in our hope in Christ.
1John.4.2 - This is the way to find out if they have the Spirit of God: If a prophet acknowledges that Jesus Christ became a human being, that person has the Spirit of God.

Matt.16.16 - Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Matt.26.63 - But Jesus remained silent. Then the high priest said to him, "I demand in the name of the living God that you tell us whether you are the Messiah, the Son of God."
Matt.26.64 - Jesus replied, "Yes, it is as you say. And in the future you will see me, the Son of Man, sitting at God's right hand in the place of power and coming back on the clouds of heaven."


John.20.31 - But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Dtruthspeaker:
This Jesus is God has made the madness of the op show.

See Madness displayed everywhere

😊

The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions. Mark 12: 29 - 34

John.10.36 - why do you call it blasphemy when the Holy One who was sent into the world by the Father says, 'I am the Son of God'?
John.11.27 - "Yes, Lord," she told him. "I have always believed you are the Messiah, the Son of God, the one who has come into the world from God."


John.3.36 - And all who believe in God's Son have eternal life. Those who don't obey the Son will never experience eternal life, but the wrath of God remains upon them."
John.17.3 - And this is the way to have eternal life--to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.


1Cor.8.6 - But we know that there is only one God, the Father, who created everything, and we exist for him. And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything and through whom we have been given life.
1Cor.12.3 - So I want you to know how to discern what is truly from God: No one speaking by the Spirit of God can curse Jesus, and no one is able to say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

Rom.1.4 - And Jesus Christ our Lord was shown to be the Son of God when God powerfully raised him from the dead by means of the Holy Spirit.
2Cor.1.19 - because Jesus Christ, the Son of God, never wavers between yes and no. He is the one whom Timothy, Silas, and I preached to you, and he is the divine Yes--God's affirmation.
Heb.3.6 - But Christ, the faithful Son, was in charge of the entire household. And we are God's household, if we keep up our courage and remain confident in our hope in Christ.
1John.4.2 - This is the way to find out if they have the Spirit of God: If a prophet acknowledges that Jesus Christ became a human being, that person has the Spirit of God.

Matt.16.16 - Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Matt.26.63 - But Jesus remained silent. Then the high priest said to him, "I demand in the name of the living God that you tell us whether you are the Messiah, the Son of God."
Matt.26.64 - Jesus replied, "Yes, it is as you say. And in the future you will see me, the Son of Man, sitting at God's right hand in the place of power and coming back on the clouds of heaven."


John.20.31 - But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Padipadi:
Bros. Is Jesus Son of God?
Yes or no?

YES

Dtruthspeaker:
This Jesus is God has made the madness of the op show.

See Madness displayed everywhere.

😁 You can't denied God's word you can only attack it and persecute those who preach it

The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions. Mark 12: 29 - 34

John.10.36 - why do you call it blasphemy when the Holy One who was sent into the world by the Father says, 'I am the Son of God'?
John.11.27 - "Yes, Lord," she told him. "I have always believed you are the Messiah, the Son of God, the one who has come into the world from God."


John.3.36 - And all who believe in God's Son have eternal life. Those who don't obey the Son will never experience eternal life, but the wrath of God remains upon them."
John.17.3 - And this is the way to have eternal life--to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.


1Cor.8.6 - But we know that there is only one God, the Father, who created everything, and we exist for him. And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything and through whom we have been given life.
1Cor.12.3 - So I want you to know how to discern what is truly from God: No one speaking by the Spirit of God can curse Jesus, and no one is able to say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

Rom.1.4 - And Jesus Christ our Lord was shown to be the Son of God when God powerfully raised him from the dead by means of the Holy Spirit.
2Cor.1.19 - because Jesus Christ, the Son of God, never wavers between yes and no. He is the one whom Timothy, Silas, and I preached to you, and he is the divine Yes--God's affirmation.
Heb.3.6 - But Christ, the faithful Son, was in charge of the entire household. And we are God's household, if we keep up our courage and remain confident in our hope in Christ.
1John.4.2 - This is the way to find out if they have the Spirit of God: If a prophet acknowledges that Jesus Christ became a human being, that person has the Spirit of God.

Matt.16.16 - Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Matt.26.63 - But Jesus remained silent. Then the high priest said to him, "I demand in the name of the living God that you tell us whether you are the Messiah, the Son of God."
Matt.26.64 - Jesus replied, "Yes, it is as you say. And in the future you will see me, the Son of Man, sitting at God's right hand in the place of power and coming back on the clouds of heaven."

John.20.31 - But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Padipadi:
Gohf, are you saying trinity is sham?
Lastly, do you blv in Holy Spirit?

first tell me what you understood from what I wrote and what you read

And yes I believe Jesus sent us who truly believe in him and obey him the Holy Spirit.

Dtruthspeaker:
Is it now you are seeing that I said you are dodging my questions?

This thread already shows you dodging it about 7 times and all the antics of fake annoyance, twistings like a serpent, insalts, changing the question asked with another one not asked. The
whole works of the same devil.

So your works prove you are a child of Satan and even now you Lie, even in the face of the clear written records on this thread.

Clearly, you are a child of Satan!



Is the bold not you confessing that Jesus Christ is Lord in spite of your rebellion?

Therefore, you have confessed that Jesus Christ is God as testified by Isaiah 25:8, Ezekiel 24:3, etc

🤣🤣

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions. Mark 12: 29 - 34

John.10.36 - why do you call it blasphemy when the Holy One who was sent into the world by the Father says, 'I am the Son of God'?
John.11.27 - "Yes, Lord," she told him. "I have always believed you are the Messiah, the Son of God, the one who has come into the world from God."


John.3.36 - And all who believe in God's Son have eternal life. Those who don't obey the Son will never experience eternal life, but the wrath of God remains upon them."
John.17.3 - And this is the way to have eternal life--to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.


1Cor.8.6 - But we know that there is only one God, the Father, who created everything, and we exist for him. And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything and through whom we have been given life.
1Cor.12.3 - So I want you to know how to discern what is truly from God: No one speaking by the Spirit of God can curse Jesus, and no one is able to say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

Rom.1.4 - And Jesus Christ our Lord was shown to be the Son of God when God powerfully raised him from the dead by means of the Holy Spirit.
2Cor.1.19 - because Jesus Christ, the Son of God, never wavers between yes and no. He is the one whom Timothy, Silas, and I preached to you, and he is the divine Yes--God's affirmation.
Heb.3.6 - But Christ, the faithful Son, was in charge of the entire household. And we are God's household, if we keep up our courage and remain confident in our hope in Christ.
1John.4.2 - This is the way to find out if they have the Spirit of God: If a prophet acknowledges that Jesus Christ became a human being, that person has the Spirit of God.

Matt.16.16 - Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Matt.26.63 - But Jesus remained silent. Then the high priest said to him, "I demand in the name of the living God that you tell us whether you are the Messiah, the Son of God."
Matt.26.64 - Jesus replied, "Yes, it is as you say. And in the future you will see me, the Son of Man, sitting at God's right hand in the place of power and coming back on the clouds of heaven."


John.20.31 - But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Dtruthspeaker:
This Gohf guy Lies and even Lie so barefacedly and unashamedly even in the face of clear proof.

See how he was twisting and turning like a snake in this thread all because he wanted to deny like Devil, the Godship of Christ, https://www.nairaland.com/8313368/heb-7-12-another-proof/1#133678238

Jesus Christ is the son of God and God 😊 if that makes me a liar to you so be it

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MindHacker9009:
They invented Jesus Christ after 70 AD to try and stop Jewish revolts. Flavius Josephus was 16 in 37 AD and did not know of Jesus followers when 3000 were added to the Christian faith on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:41). Following this, Acts 2:47 states: "And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved." but here is an account from Flavius Josephus mentioned in his autobiography, "The Life of Josephus", that when he was 16 years old, he explored different Jewish sects in an effort to understand them and decide which one to follow. At the time, there were three major sects within Judaism:

Pharisees: Known for their strict interpretation and adherence to Jewish law and oral traditions.
Sadducees: A priestly, aristocratic group that rejected oral traditions and focused solely on the written Torah, often associated with Temple worship.
Essenes: A more ascetic and separatist sect that emphasized communal living, piety, and withdrawal from mainstream society.

This is why the invented Jesus Christ did not also direct his anger towards the Roman soldiers superiors who came and invaded his homeland, like he always did to his own people even the innocent tree he did not forgive:

In front of the Romans your Jesus is very gentle and remembers to forgive but in front of his own people he forgets about forgiveness:
Matthew 23:13: "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces."
Matthew 23:33: "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?"
John 8:44: "You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires."
Matthew 11:20-24: "Then Jesus began to denounce the towns in which most of his miracles had been performed, because they did not repent."
Luke 19:41-44: "The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you... They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you."

Even the tree that had not sinned, he could not forgive:
Matthew 21:18-19: "Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, 'May you never bear fruit again!' Immediately the tree withered."

there were other sects but the rest were minor

MindHacker9009:
They were people called Jesus then but none of them was the son of God. The Roman empire invented Jesus Christ son of God to mock the Jews after the Romans conquered the Jews who were waiting for God to send a Messiah to come and defeat the Roman empire from the Holly land of Israel.

they invented a believe system to conquer the Jews? So when they destroyed them in 70AD why did they continue it

MindHacker9009:
Jesus Christ is an invented idol by the Roman empire

they might have invented a false one that doesn't mean a real genuine one doesn't exist