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Strata1716:
I think it only pertains to care workers and clinical staff in the NHs and not people like business analyst or project managers

For BAs and PMs the 38,700k salary requirement will surely apply

Greathand01:
So we heard o..we hope ring light tik tok people won't cast this update again....
How to get job in NHS?
How to be successful in NHS Interview?

NHS website don buy market

Kenn55:
I spoke with my cousin rounding up her Masters in Accounting next month, she seems worried on what this new policy means for her.
Her initial plan was to apply for the 2 yr post study work visa, is that no longer certain?
If I understand well, the 2 year post study work visa remains but what happens after that 2 years is where the problem is. Am I correct?

If it’s post study she has nothing to worry about. That is still intact

LionInZion:
Robert Jenrick resigns as immigration minister over government's Rwanda plan
Home Secret

https://news.sky.com/story/robert-jenrick-resigns-as-immigration-minister-over-governments-rwanda-plan-home-office-minister-13024262#:~:text=Earlier%20friends%20of%20Mr%20Jenrick,on%20Human%20Rights%20(ECHR).

Even SUELLA is reportedly set to deliver a rare resignation statement in the Commons, calling into question the Prime Minister's leadership.

So much katakata inside this govt.

Na who dem go blame now

Lexusgs430:
RJ gone ...... The immigration fallout on tape ......😁

kini eleyi bayi

Poanan:
Are u sure it is 6months? U.S is mostly 2yrs o except they gave those people special visa type

It's 5 years like you said for Nigerians but you can only stay for six months and then leave to re-enter for another six months. Same with Canada visitor visa no matter the length they give. The good thing is that once you make another application for another kind of visa, you can continue to stay beyond the six months till you get the decision on that application which they call an adjustment of status

Zahra29:
I get your point, but any lack of options is down to the companies that may not want to sponsor. The government has removed/reduced the barriers to sponsorship since Brexit, it's now up to individual companies if they choose to sponsor or not.

there are still barriers, the residence test is back though not formally announced but Anuty Suella started telling companies to consider locals first bringing back the residence test through the back door. This is why sponsorship outside healthcare is reducing these days.

The immigration skills charge is another issue and I can't blame companies cos of the high rising costs of living and lean budget these days. The Graduate scheme route which is what many companies use to avoid immigration skills charges by employing those on the student visas is now under threat with the increase in the salary requirement. Am not arguing but making a point that the barriers are there.

Zahra29:

Sponsorship is also not the only pathway to settlement in the UK.

For example, in the UK you can apply for leave to remain on the basis of having a British child- as soon as the child is born, unlike the US where the parent of an American citizen has to wait till the child grows up and is able to file for them.

So there are swings and roundabouts both ways.

sponsorship is the only pathway for professionals, the global talent route is very restrictive as usual, and only covers very few disciplines. The options are not there hence the overloaded care route. My concern is always for those with professional experience. The UK pretends as if it doesn't need them cos it's only the money they can get they are always after. The system is like a Hotel business, pay for some number of nights, pack your load, and go.

justwise:
Brightest? Was not in this thread that we were told that the brightest go to Canada while the UK are left with old , unskilled and uneducated ones?

Yes I remember o, we were even told that most people coming into the UK can never qualify for Canada, this thread don see shege for this matter

Zahra29:
But not impossible. There are exceptions - a British citizen who is not able to meet the new income threshold can still bring their partner over, just on a 10 yr route, as is currently the case

Wait until Trump gets back into power, we all know how he feels about migration from s**th**e countries. Im sure the UK will soon appear extremely liberal in comparison

they must suffer that 10 years sha, chai, and as for Trump shebi he will stand for election like the Tories too so don't go there yet

Zahra29:
Visitor visas with what duration? Also, the UK gives 60 days to find another job, they don't ask people to leave immediately.

How come the US requires them to find a sponsor,which then limits the pool of potential employers? Why not allow them to apply to any company, no restrictions?

six months per entry into the US since you're asking and is sponsorship the only pathway in the US? don't they have several professional pathways without the need for sponsorship? and be realistic how many people see a job within 2 months or 60 days haba

Zahra29:
Brightest are leaving, brightest are also coming. That's globalisation. The "brightest" have no issues getting visas in the UK or elsewhere

and the Uk believes in globalisation by making family reunion difficult, like we normally say dey play

Zahra29:
Canada that is the the western beacon of liberal immigration has an annual quota on the number of PRs it issues out, and I read that currently the number of international students exceeds this quota by several hundred thousand.

How many immigrants in the US had to leave earlier on when they lost their jobs and sponsorships, despite working in the US for many years. Why don't canada and the US just print out visas to allow all these people to stay back permanently?

Look at the tougher policies that Sweden has just rolled out, Sweden used to be very liberal. Norway has stopped free tuition for overseas students, I heard Germany is doing the same from next year.

Every western country is facing a huge and unrelenting demand from immigrants seeking a better life, and all are having to write and rewrite policies that will put their interests first and cherry pick the immigrants that they do want. They can't absorb everyone so they are being selective (even to refugees), which may sound unfair to some but unfortunately that's the current state of affairs.

Please don't go there, they responded by allowing people to get visitor visas to stay back and begin to apply for jobs that can sponsor them, they also became dynamic by reducing the requirements for some other pathways like eb2 to retain professionals, the UK will never do that but ask people to leave immediately, you see the difference? The same thing with Canada they eased the burden on some visas which resulted in the current explosion of immigration. The first rule is humanity first which is lacking here.

Zahra29:
But @hustla just gave several examples of recent immigrants he knows who are thriving here in extremely good roles. Hustla himself is about to land a juicy role. And there are many more examples, even on other routes such as the global talent visa
So I don't think the UK has any problem attracting the "best and brightest".

That is not true, the recent immigration stats say it all. How many people are landing those juicy roles compared to the vacancies available? recent stats even show the brightest are also leaving the country. That's why I laugh when people complain about the kind of people who do all sorts of fraud to come into the UK which is a true reflection of the kind of people the UK is attracting

We can defend the UK for all we want with their policy decisions but a system that cannot segment or differentiate the kind of immigrants wanted can never thrive please don't talk about the shortage skilled list, that's a disaster.

Zahra29:
Yes, this bit I agree with and I expect it to be challenged in the courts because of the unfairness to their own citizens who should not have to choose between leaving their homeland or leaving their loved ones.

But then again, the govt will argue that they can bring their family over on the 10 year route , if they are not able to meet the income requirements for the normal 5 year route.
So there is still a way for families to be together (it will just take longer to reach settlement)

Just asking, must the uk punish people because they want to stay permanently? Mind you they are not the only country doing this family visa thing o

hustla:
I was thinking about something on the train yesterday as I haven't seen it happen before

Can a Muslim student from Nigeria carry 3 wives as dependents to the UK? I mean when they still allowed dependents.I see these Arab looking guys with 2/3 wives on the bus with their burqa and I wonder how the visa process looked like

Will the VO frown at it?

You see this your jamb question, just book an appointment with Aunty Suella, she will give you the entire day 😂

hustla:
I don't have any issues with their policies tbh as it's up to me to leave or stay and I have maintained my position from the day i landed in this country.

I know they will feel the effects in the coming months and start fighting in house. Na that one I dey wait for cos its always funny

If I had a nurse wife, the UK will be the last country we will consider. Too many wahala, restrictions, complains and unstable policies. Ontop the small average salaries they earn at the end of the day

So you be Dey plan to marry inside this uk with these new policy? You get mind o 😂 na play I de play no take am serious. Just wanna catch some fun

Lexusgs430:
One wife, one problem.........😁🤣

Be like say with the high rate of divorce for this uk the govt just kuku say make dem dabaru the whole thing sef, na by force to marry? 😜

hustla:
Rejection choke for this side too but I know say God go run am, all na time and will be part of our success story.

I wan make I enter Skynews sef see Nigerian be PM or Partner for GMSachs and Google . Nigerians in the US are doing actual doings, we in the UK too can strive for things like them but the policies are restrictive and weird.

God will help us Nigerians

This is why when some of us say these immigration policies are hostile, we are told to shut up and go back to our country. The uk is all about the money they want from immigrants and not about attracting the best of professionals. The US you talked about through their visa interviews profiles the best they can get and retains them through many properly curated pathways. It’s not magic but deliberate.
But what do we have here, they put everyone both skilled and unskilled in the same bucket and give everyone high bp all in the name of net migration.

Watch how more professionals will move from the Uk to the US in the coming months. Shebi na wetin dem want.

Lexusgs430:
Lawyers are already shinning their boots to challenge this immigration changes........ Watch this space ....😄😁

Oga Lexus hope no be say you Dey try to bring second or third wife into this uk economy, this one wey lawyer don enter this matter bayi 😂

boneruns:
I agree with you completely that Nigerians should aim high, and I am sure we have couple of Nigerians in the U.K. manning big positions and earning real high. I have an acquaintance who worked in same industry in Nigeria, working in one of the American software development firms in the U.K. and he earns over 60k, so I can relate very well with you.

But permit me to ask, are these friends of yours in cybersecurity? If so, were security clearance required for these positions they got, since they have been in the U.K. few months and SC requires 5 years of living in the U.K.

Sometimes I get depressed about the professional job search stuff. Rejections left, right and centre when they hear one is with a student visa. I recently attended an interview for a Band 6 cybersecurity role in NHS, got a call from the HR that I scored high in the ranking, but they have to consider an insider within NHS who applied for same role, but they can keep me on hold and let me know when something comes up, if I will be interested. I begin say Wetin send this guy apply for this particular role.

I just believe something will come up soon hopefully.

So just to ask the experienced professionals here, can one include in an CV unrelated work experience gained the U.K. while as a student to cover for employment gap? I’m asking because of U.K. experience stuff. I work in retail sector and I can somehow relate what I do to cybersecurity during interviews, but I just do not know if it fits into a CV.

Thanks.

One strategy I used when I got into the uk was to volunteer for an ngo as a tech product manager so as I was working in Amazon warehouse by day I was acting as a product manager by night of course being a volunteer role our meetings was mostly late into the evening or night so that was what’s on my cv till I got my desired role and I was also able to get work reference from the organisation. I got that volunteer role from a platform where they post these unpaid volunteer jobs from ngos I can’t remember that platform now but when I remember I will come back and post it here so that’s one way to navigate that

On the issue of security clearance you can only get that through an organisation that’s a govt contractor who employs you and yes of course depending on the level of clearance you must have been a uk resident for some years. That’s a tough call except you’re lucky in getting into a large and reputable organisation like the big four that can help in getting a residency waiver with a justified business case to get you security clearance.

You have to keep trying, the job market is getting more competitive and the economy right now is not in the best shape so opportunities may be limited. Yes I have suffered so many rejections including an nhs band 8 role so we’ve all been there. It’s one Yes you need and that will change your entire story

LionInZion:
Lol. Don't worry, on your mandate we shall stand

You sha wan put me inside wahala, i dash you the mandate

9jaBloke:
And the 3 goals are made in Nigeria

Gabriel Adebayo Osho
Elijah Adedayo
Ross Barkley


All Nigerians

Very true

LionInZion:
So una don dey choose prefects for this thread without election?

Imagine o, when I no steal any mandate

JustJoyous:
Even Teachers?

You see this uk, you got to wait small let them explain all the remaining grammar

As e be now even doctors and nurses could not sleep well since last night. In the fullness of time we will know every occupation that’s affected or not, any other info now is speculation

iyatrustee:
Very straight forward. One policeman charged me 100k and made it look like it was hard to process. I took a risk and applied online, paid the 30k last thursday, by Friday they sent the form to capture my fingerprints and certificate issued yesterday!

The olopa don call tire, no be my head his detty december dey

the olopa wan run you street

Goke7:
Am sure you belong to some Nigerian WhatsApp group in the uk or back home, just ask who can help with the police character certificate, someone will definitely refer you so it’s something they can process and send by courier to you here in the uk.

Am sorry, An update to this please I hear there is a website where this is done now so check please check and find out. The process was different when some of us did it way back

Noworries11:
Elders the prison job pre - employment checks na him we dey...
"Please provide an Overseas PNC for your time in Nigeria"
Please how so I go about this?
This should be same as Police Character Certificate, right?
Time in Nigeria implies from what point? A year before a migrated?

How do I cross this bridge, most persons I spoke with, claimed they did theirs back home, I mean, travelled to the UK alongside with it.

Experienced elders please advise.
Thank you

Am sure you belong to some Nigerian WhatsApp group in the uk or back home, just ask who can help with the police character certificate, someone will definitely refer you so it’s something they can process and send by courier to you here in the uk.

Zahra29:
So if there was no care visa , given than this visa route was only created 2 years ago, what would people have done or planned to do?

They will avoid the uk, simple

ehizario2012:
This is very valid. I got a regret mail at EE after second level interview which looked very promising... Something tells me I did not get that job simply because I am less than 6 months in UK. I noticed the interviewer's countenance changed when discussions reached there... It is well.

It’s actually difficult to get most jobs once your visa is less than a year especially if they are not going to sponsor. That’s a fact, even in some cases if it’s even less than 2 years

Progressivegee:
This is wrong. Health care workers are exempt from the minimum salary threshold for sponsorship

I didn’t say anything different nah we are saying same thing

Taal17:
Gbam
Nothing fantastic about average wages in the UK.
It's been a living wage which worked for all, provides all basic needs and still afforded some wants if planned well

Very true, no dispute at all on this