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Peerielass:
@Goke7 as our class monitor can you please advise what the average wage is for this week as it appears to change every few weeks on this thread 😝. Last time I checked it was about £70K.

Class monitor kwa while I don’t deny that there are jobs of 70k and above, the question is how many folks are in that bracket. Am just being realistic o no be say people wey Dey this thread sef no Dey earn that amount

gmacnoms:
Why all the data analysts, BAs, Tech bros dey run upandan for small announcement?

I think say na only me Dey carry Kaya and earning 20k for this youkay.

Small 38,700 na all of una Dey panicking? 😄😄😄

Do you know the average wage in this country? no allow all those noise of 50k deceive you o

Aremson14:
I want to confirm o this skilled worker law does it so includes someone with sponsorship?

Your question is not clear but for clarity if you must be sponsored either new or renewing outside the healthcare care sector salary must be almost 39k per year

Zahra29:
No one was forced into care. Many people e.g. with families chose the care route to avoid the cost of IHS. Many chose to prioritise a quicker /surer route to settlement over following their chosen career. Many chose care over PSW for the above reasons.
All valid choices, but they were not forced.

No, most people choose care to maintain valid status in the uk.

The message is simple, if you can’t stay, move out.

justwise:
Zahra29? Labour will make changes to this or introduce another visa route to entice foreigners.

The UK will struggle to remain competitive without immigrants, just wait after next generation election and see what happens.

I know that Nigerians and Indians specifically abused the care and student visa routes badly hence this policy but the British government encouraged the abuse by focusing on the revenue generated through visa applications alone

People were forced to go the care route because the uk refused to open up other sectors in terms of immigration policy, from the stats just 66,000 skilled workers visa outside the healthcare sector was given in the last 1 year for an economy that’s the 5th largest in the world. Honestly all the noise about net migration is just too unnecessary. All I see is deceit and unnecessary irritation.

iiiyyyk:
Only British citizens or those on ILR can apply for spouse/family visa, if they have an income of 38k+

Family visa is different from dependent visa.

The dependants of those who came in with 3yrs care visa would be stranded once their visa ends after 3yrs


I believe people should avoid UK for now.

Wether care visa or student Visa...many won't find it easy.

Shebi when I said people should try other countries, they came for me as if I made a blasphemy

triplo3:
These new immigration laws make no sense. If they wanted to control it reasonably, they should have fixed net migration caps e.g 250k or whatever their target is. All these forecast to reduce it by 20% by 2024/5 is rubbish. Nobody knows how people will react. I’m going to predict same reaction they got in 2011 onwards. A lot of people will avoid UK and then they’ll make changes again to try and attract students and workers. Merry-go round! I also noticed they were scared to touch PSW (for now), that would have been the final nail to drop overseas intake to zero. Confused bunch of politicians/policy makers.

Psw is already useless cos from January students dependents apart from PhD and research courses are no longer coming in. How many can afford PhD or two years research courses so touching psw is not relevant anymore. Even for students how many singles can cope with living expenses and sch fees

Lexusgs430:
They are simply saying, we don't want family people........ 😂

Plenty singles don dey UK already, pick from home grown talents......... 😭😜

Abi let the singles breathe

Aunty Suella thank you o

Bourne007:
Mehn! These guys no dey play at all

And as it currently stands .. If the applicant has children, an additional £3,800 per year is needed for the first child and an additional £2,400 for each subsequent child. If this is carried over, minimum income for an applicant with 2 kids will be £44,900

Thank God for Aunty Suella, she really did a wonderful job we should all be proud of!

We never see anything at all!

Zahra29:
💯

Exactly...it will force higher wages for jobs outside healthcare

In which economy?

vikaosi:
Although the announcements are based on broad policies and not detailed regulations, a careful analysis of the words will suggest that it will target "bringing people into the UK" as opposed to those who are already here.

Don’t assume o until you see everything in black and white

hustla:
Omo, nawa for them o!

Will the increment apply to those seeking sponsorship? does it mean that man has to earn at least 38k to be eligible for sponsorship application if one isn't in healthcare?

Yes o

hustla:
Watching the video now and they chipped in that they will look at removing psw for students on 1 year MSc degree

I am sure that is next on the table in 2024

dem don lock everywhere throw way key join

Stenvee:
So if a doctor/nurse already working in the UK needs to renew their visa, does this mean their existing dependents would no longer be allowed under their visa?

Am sure there will still be lots of clarifications later especially on the healthcare route cos there are so many professions on that route apart from doctors and nurses or even care workers.

That’s the uk for you, confusion extravaganza.

iyatrustee:
I don't think so entirely. Looks more like a systematic cleansing, keep the best and Bleep the rest.

We are saying the same thing, lots of people will have to leave

Progressivegee:
I understand but as him no talk all careworkers instead of saying overseas care workers. But it's okay. No lele

Even if you’re inside you are still seen as an overseas worker

iyatrustee:
This change will adversely affect a lot of people.

Student's with dependents hoping to get a care visa after schooling won't be able to.

Those on PSV must have expertise that are in high demand to stay back.

What happens to the dependents of those on 3yr care visa's at renewal??

Too many questions to answer

In summary they want people to leave, simple

hustla:
It won't

LOOL. But they wont be allowed to bring in dependents anymore. Very funny people

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeRV97cw/

They are actually shutting down that route indirectly. Dem no send anybody papa

Progressivegee:
Does the ban on care dependents include those already in UK. Cause he used the word overseas care workers. Is that generic for everyone both in and outside the UK?

Immigration in the uk? Everyone is in the same bucket both inside and outside.

Lexusgs430:
I hear majority received prayers to their emails, of $900 per day........ 😜

We can clearly see why the country is in a mess......

omo na that kind prayer go make Christmas sweet o, see groove

extol1:
How does my words portray hatred to Nigeria. The country should have been ahead in every sector in Africa

and what have you personally contributed to that? Or is it not humans like you that make things happen?

Onana just Dey show skills

Tenibegilojuo:
Hello guys, please I urgently need your advice on this:

I am a cybersecurity specialist, currently working in a cybersecurity company here in the uk for about 8 months now. I just landed an offer with an NHS trust for a cybersecurity role band 7. I was surprised not to see anything regarding sponsorship on my offer letter. I tried reaching out to the HR guy in charge of my recruitment to seek confirmation regarding the sponsorship but he won’t respond to my emails. However, I sought a few guys’ opinions and I was told NHS always gives sponsorship for tech roles and that it’s almost cast in stone.

My current employer is actually willing to sponsor me towards my visa expiry which is in 6 months, but it’s just that I prefer the NHS role as it’s more senior and strategic.

I need to tender my resignation in 24 hrs to fulfill my 1 month notice period. I don’t know if I should maintain the assumption that the NHS trust will sponsor me or I should just stay put where I am sure of CoS.

Have your current employer put it in writing that they are going to sponsor you? If yes stick to your current employer, if no try and confirm with nhs if they are going to sponsor you before making any move. Don’t assume anything in this country, it’s what is on paper they go with

Lexusgs430:
Fortunately, we all appreciate our small beningin........🤣😁



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlB7HReFejE?si=mkWvcsoOcwArjU4w

na something like this uk cold fit cause o

Lexusgs430:
No be small tin o ..... From cold weather to cold freezer room ..........😜😁

and you go dress like ninja, where you will use 20 mins to UnCloth if you want to go for 30 mins break!

Lilymond:
Hello everyone,

I'm at a crossroads in my career and seeking advice. I hold a master's in Public Health Education and a bachelor's in Health Education. I'm torn between pursuing a career as a Health Policy Analyst or a Health Promotion Specialist. I'm equally interested in both but would appreciate suggestions based on demand in the UK, job opportunities, salary, and overall professionalism. Thanks for your insights!

Pursue both opportunities, anyone that clicks start from there. As you progress and gain experience you can decide on that much later

Oyi12:
Hello elders, please I need your opinion on this. I got 2 offers with sponsorship. The first is with council in a day centre while the second is a Band 5 with the NHS but in Bristol. Considering how expensive Bristol is will it be wise for me to move there with the band 5 salary with my family? There is prospect for me to secure a higher grade in the NHS in future but I am just scared of because of how expensive Bristol is.

House rent is about £1,500 average while i stay in a town where i pay less than £1,000 for rent. We are a family of 4 and my spouse hasn't gotten a job yet.

Please make that move to Bristol, your wife will surely get her own job since sponsorship is settled. I would have said you try a city called Newport for cheaper accommodation which is close to Bristol but when you factor in transportation cost will it make any difference and I don’t think so. I think you may just have to bear for some months before your household income increases when your wife starts working but throwing that nhs job away shouldn’t be an option.

Resurgent2016:
You can't use your story or even field to make a theory.

Certain fields and industries are more open/exposed to offer sponsorship than others. For instance, many accounting firms (big4 or big10 as called here on the sponsorship list are open to offering sponsorship on contact. Discussion on why that is is a different subject. In the industry, an accountant is less likely going to easily find companies that offer on contact or they may be offering below average pay e.g a role that will fetch £50-69k, one will offer it for £25-30k with sponsorship and even those may not be so common. I also understand some data and IT focused firms/roles also rich sponsorship opportunities.

Mind you, an accountant without big4 or closely matching experience in Nigeria is unlikely to land a big4 job in the Uk and so will likely focus on industry roles.

Bottom line is not all industries and careers offer the same level of sponsorship opportunity. For instance a medical practioner/dentist/pharmacist and similar guys have a very high chance of securing sponsorship on contact. Someone with experience in hr or marketing will probably have much lower odds of getting sponsorship.

For some others in the industry, even when they are on the sponsorship list, it is not a norm to offer sponsorship on contact or make any firm commitment towards sponsorship.

So be thankful your prior experience and positioning has landed you in a rich fishing spot. Trust me many others work as hard and diligent but do not find same opportunity because of they do not have the prior experience in the visa-rich field to leverage on.

I currently worked in industry but also have experience working with a big4 prior, so I speak from some level of experience.

Except for some specialised engineering roles, my current employer will not offer sponsorship, neither will others in the industry. Best bet will be to join and hope you convince them to do so. For people with less than 24months on their visa, that is a challenge.

In addition, one of the big four I worked with in the past will not even offer sponsorship to folks on a dependent visa no matter how qualified the person is can’t say for the other big three which reduces the chances of those whose dependents are the ones that are highly skilled some of which they have to go the care route to keep their dependent spouse in those plum jobs. In recent months they will not even go forward with those that have less than a year left before their visa expires except if they are on a student visa. Yes for those on student visa they do sponsor. Like you said many firms tend to sponsor more on roles they feel are critical or technical like software engineers, cloud engineers even in the civil service. A lot of folks I have seen got offers in the civil service but got withdrawn even in the NHS because of visa length, should we say they are not hardworking enough or don’t know what they are doing. Circumstance differ from one person to another. This is my basis why I feel some folks can explore other countries instead of putting themselves at risk if they can’t go the care route. I repeat not everyone will get the opportunity of their desired work visa in this country. We all insisting that everyone should continue to try without having a plan B is very insensitive.

Goodenoch:
Man, many many companies offer sponsorship.

Difference is most don’t offer it to entry-level hires.

That is the entire reason for PSW, to relieve graduates of the need for sponsorship and allow them to prove themselves to the point that companies will sponsor them.

There is a clear, logical progression to the thing but many people don’t want to follow it for various reasons and that’s how they end up where they end up, and then people like you start blaming the government for everything.

Your advise to anyone not interested in care work is to go to another country? Lmao. I can see that you’re fully set on this so all the best to you and all the others who join you in believing care is the only work available to immigrants in this country.

This one I think I work in care

Resurgent2016:

You can't use your story or even field to make a theory.

Certain fields and industries are more open/exposed to offer sponsorship than others. For instance, many accounting firms (big4 or big10 as called here on the sponsorship list are open to offering sponsorship on contact. Discussion on why that is is a different subject. In the industry, an accountant is less likely going to easily find companies that offer on contact or they may be offering below average pay e.g a role that will fetch £50-69k, one will offer it for £25-30k with sponsorship and even those may not be so common. I also understand some data and IT focused firms/roles also rich sponsorship opportunities.

Mind you, an accountant without big4 or closely matching experience in Nigeria is unlikely to land a big4 job in the Uk and so will likely focus on industry roles.

Bottom line is not all industries and careers offer the same level of sponsorship opportunity. For instance a medical practioner/dentist/pharmacist and similar guys have a very high chance of securing sponsorship on contact. Someone with experience in hr or marketing will probably have much lower odds of getting sponsorship.

For some others in the industry, even when they are on the sponsorship list, it is not a norm to offer sponsorship on contact or make any firm commitment towards sponsorship.

So be thankful your prior experience and positioning has landed you in a rich fishing spot. Trust me many others work as hard and diligent but do not find same opportunity because of they do not have the prior experience in the visa-rich field to leverage on.

I currently worked in industry but also have experience working with a big4 prior, so I speak from some level of experience.

Except for some specialised engineering roles, my current employer will not offer sponsorship, neither will others in the industry. Best bet will be to join and hope you convince them to do so. For people with less than 24months on their visa, that is a challenge.

All that you have said here is what I cannot fault at all. I would have said all this earlier but our motivational speakers here will still find fault with it.

see, just leave some folks here to continue to use themselves as a model when what applies to one cannot apply to many others. It's just a lack of sensitivity to other people's plight. I currently work in the aerospace, security & defence sector and it would be very bad to use myself as a model when I know many others don't have or may not be able to have the kind of experience and privileges I do enjoy. This country at times is like a lottery, if you are privileged, give thanks and do not think many others are not even hardworking like you. Enough said

Omenlon:
if you do not protect the local industries how will they grow. the so-called foreign companies started from somewhere, their home govt protected them to grow to international standards. Nobody can help you other than yourself.

the local rice companies we protected by shutting our borders, how far now?

hustla:
I am just telling you its more commonplace than you think, stop trying to shift the goal post. If you are talking about companies with sponsorship that may not want to, NHS trusts also do it and some want to sponsor certain roles only. Monzo and Starling do the exact same thing

The salary requirement has not been implemented yet so ...

It’s not common place anything, the stats released by govt shows it. Am talking from the data released and if you want to know there is another site that tells you company by company how many workers they sponsor within a year. That’s when you will know that many have the license but don’t sponsor. I’ve seen large companies with thousands of employees on their payroll that won’t sponsor more than 50 in a year. The salary requirement increases is definitely coming but again the health sector won’t be affected and we will blame people again for going that route