₦airaland Forum

TonyeBarcanista:
Dogara is a disgrace

oga na una put am there o!

Oche211:
Una too dey fear. Sharia law no fit work for Nigeria. Patapata, we divide d country make everyone go their own way. No shaking
Bt wait oo, some mumu senators 4rm d south nd christian North will just sit during plenary sleeping while dis bill was rushed through 2nd reading.

This is the reason I hate to be drawn into the islamasation of Nigeria gibberish, Dogara is a christian and a member of winners' chapel yet he sits down there to see such a bill crawling and moving into the house.

Am sorry, our so called christian politicians are cowards, they only come to church to canvass for votes and kneel before our pastors, when they get to place of power, they sleep on their chairs while such bills are passed. I remember David mark who could not control yerima when that stupid child bill was passed, the bill was already thrown out before yerima started ranting and david mark who calls himself a christian became intimidated.

We need to shine our eyes when these politicians come to our churches to seek votes and tell us so and so want to islamise Nigeria when they themselves are sheep in wolf clothing, enough said cos am pissed off.

Fayose is not politically smart, the way amodu sheriff was disgraced was out of office as PDP chairman shows fayose has no political depth so what do you expect from a ponmo governor, abegi

superstar1:
This is the same Ecowas Our Dilector, the toothless sheep and shameless ipods are using to threaten Nigeria.

You are still Learners, with capital "L" dangling on your neck.

Even dasuki own don finish, those advising these fellows to go to ECOWAS courts ain't helping their matter.

modath:
It's on video somewhere, he said it in a broadcast to the whole state..

There are some things one should only think about but never utter.


Cc Firefire, high chief what say you?

Watched it live on tvc news, for the first time fayose could not blame or accuse PMB, he was so humble to say these are trying times for the country. Fayose is not a smart politician, he said he can't sell his property to pay salaries, the osokomale himself, aregbesola for don laugh I'm belle tire if he watched fayose tonight

Aura2:
So if you are capital oil that owns a multi billion dollar Depot, the biggest in the country, you will convert it to a mortuary to delve into another business right?

Do you work there? If subsidy removal can't keep it running anymore it can be converted to a church, na today?

When he returns our precious yam dear

989900B:
Like I said sometime ago, if Nigeria breaks up today, the likes of Danjuma, and IBB, and Dangotes will own more of the oil blocs and investments in the east than the sons of the soil -- there is a tribe called "the-haves", and they are always friends forever.

Innoson will prefer his son marries Dangote or Otedola's daughter than any random broad from his hood -- so much for tribalism.

While the whole country was burning for June 12, Kola Abiola was busy chasing IBB's daughter around town. "Shioor".

Unfortunately most fellows are not aware of 'the haves' tribe especially the fellows arguing here for more destruction in the ND

EasternActivist:
What will you be supporting?
And how will you support?
And how feasible will the result be if they follow your own way?
In the absence of any good solution and answer. I reinstate let them continue as that will be the only way the federal government can be forced and pressurized to listen to them.

Continuing destroying their own lands while yours remain intact and unscathed, mhen you are mean. I will be the first to support lawmakers from the ss if they start pushing for more derivation but the sad thing is they just don't care cos they are not too different from the militants themselves, some are actually militants anyway. Same problem: lack of diplomatic tact

jeje123:
Metuh's family are full of comedians!

I tell you, I don laugh tire for here

tijanouzwasii:
i thought they said Buhari has reopen about 7 refinaries??

7 refineries? how many we get sef . You must be talking about the 7th wonder of the world

EazyMoh:
I have no idea what you are talking about. Can't they get the dollars from the banks at N280/1$ or are telling me even the banks don't have the dollars?

Don't waste your time jor, those marketers can't cope with importing petrol at N280 to a $ without subsidy. its just pure blackmail to deceive us that the parallel market can't cope and make the Govt succumb to their whims

Aura2:
If they are not spending money to import, who is mounting pressure on your Fx, Ghosts? why is naira exchanging for 345 if no one was demanding for fx?
I know internet is everywhere now,it is no license to delve into issues you have no idea about.
Ok!! I can see you are still in 2012, buzz me when you check your calendar.

Ok, who went to the Finance Minister to complain that they need fx from CBN to import PMS? Ghosts I suppose too, Madam I repeat if the business is as strenuous as you are spreading to everyone here, those marketers will delve into other businesses to reduce their bp, no be by force to import petrol nah.

EasternActivist:
They are fighting for a cause... And in the process their lands are the victims...

They know fully well the consequences but the outcome will surely surpass their sacrifices. And besides their lands are degraded so what more are they preserving?

My only advice to the ND is this, in this case you know your land is already temporary destroyed and can only take decades to get cleaned up but I assure you that right under that land that's degraded, a river of oil is flowing beneath that if utilised properly will subdue the land effects.

Let's support in every way we can so that the ND will get her justice. Let them control their resources and give the federal govt 13% that will do....

I stand with the ND... No to injustice of the ND.

we would support but not with the destruction of infrastructures that have taken years and vast resources to build and as for resource control, they pushed and got 13%, what are their lawmakers in the house of assembly for? is it not to push for more allocation to their benefit? they can push further to increase to 50% and more but the question is what have they been doing with the 13% so far. The same politicians controlling 13% will stilll be the one to control 100% and you think it will solve any problem?

I repeat oil will never bring development anywhere.

989900B:
I know them. I have some as friends, some as clients (they are starving right now). Some of them ships don't even berth here. Some of them tankers are re-routed to Benin rep., Niger, Cameroun.

oga you sabi dem fa, dem sef go join people talk say Govt no get policy direction chai, you see as we be for naija!

Aura2:
So in your undiluted common sense, to land a product at say 146, you will sell 86 and collect 60 naira in 8 to 10 months in a rigorous exercise. (subsidy regimen). Note that 60 naira in their line of business is running into millions of dollars, sourced through bank loans
Without subsidy, you can land it for 146, and collect your 146 at the depot without hassles, which do you think they prefer?
Did you say the banks will wait forever? with inflationary trends moving up on a weekly basis?
Don't bother answering the questions, you sure have not done business in your life.

abegi, who told you its all of them that are actually importing petroleum products, is that not why its a scam, how many of them are actually spending money to import petrol, is it those who pack water and put petrol on top to deceive regulators [of course they too are compromised] that are doing business? madam business woman, if the subsidy regime was that rigorous as you are implying, most of these marketers would have found something better to do that will reduce their hassles.

Aura2:
what do you understand by subsidy?

you can lecture me, am all ears

lozanni:
The Oil importers agreed to a Pump price increase of N86.05 to N145 for Petrol (PMS) with the Federal Govt. on the condition that that they source the forex for imports from independent sources, but have now turned around to say they need forex from the CBN.
Its either the marketers are trying to be clever through getting cheap forex from CBN and still selling at the new price of N145 per liter of fuel, thereby making a super-abnormal profit or they have not been, genuinely, able to source for forex from independent sources, to fund the level of import of petroleum products required of them (which was my fear at the beginning).
I hope this thorny issue is resolved very soon to avoid unimaginable fuel queues and the attendant hardship for Nigerians.

actually this is their aim as surviving without subsidy from Govt is not possible for these marketers. I hope the Govt does not succumb to their blackmail, let's have serious marketers come into the business to make things better, most of these marketers are political jobbers who are too used to freebies from the Govt.

modath:
Every other plan is just short term fix...By the way, most Nigerians do but the ones crying the loudest can't be seen to agree with that point cos it will lead to the question they dread the most; "why are refineries not working" or why didn't one of the over 20 licenses issued for private refineries come on stream....

They won't have response and they can't add zombie, dullard to that argument..

I think this is why Govt is thinking about privatizing the refineries, they themselves know this is the true solution, also the the violence in the ND is not helping matters in that regard, as the refineries in kaduna and warri ought to be more productive now. One of the reasons I try to concur with the conspiracy theory that the marketers may be behind the pipeline explosions, the more the refineries work, the less importation we do. But of course too many enemies to contend with for now.

Boss13:
Good analysis. I believe they were using government funds to sustain their business. Now they are in a fix and their survival will depend on how innovative and competitive they are.

As usual, the oil marketers want things easy.

only folks like Total, Oando, Mobil and other serious marketers who have all their logistics in place with good organisation can cope with the post subsidy regime, those mushroom marketers that hire tankers with two tires na dem go hear am pass, come to apapa, all those rickety tankers are no where in sight, na subsidy de carry them all these while.

Aura2:
But you read that the Q4 2015 subsidy was recently paid ie almost 8months of debt on the marketer, don't you think he would have preferred getting his money on delivery?
A better explanation is that secondary market doesn't even have enough, ask any BDC for $1m, they will start calling all the geopolitical zones in Nigeria let alone marketers who trade in hundreds of millions.

so the cbn should continue to give them dollars at the rate of $197 for them to sell at N145 [which is what the marketers want] you don't get it, these marketers can't survive the post subsidy regime. The money they collect from Govt as subsidy even if its 8 or 10 months later is what makes them stay afloat. If I tell my bank who gave me loan that Govt is owing me, that bank is ready to wait forever to get that money cos Govt will surely pay even with the differentials in value of the naira against the dollar. This is what makes the subsidy regime so profitable to these marketers knowing that Govt can't cope too long with a fuel scarcity as the Public will turn the heat on Govt.

The marketers are pretenders, they still want subsidy, forget the deregulation message they preach

EasternActivist:
There is little or no federal infrastructure in SE don't you get it .

We can't spoil our land that we built by our sweat and by our zeal.

What's happening in ss isn't just barbaric but cheer wickedness...

How can people that is giving you 100% riches have zero infrastructure and development, why you have all the infrastructure you use in sucking them dry all over their lands... Why?

U take their oil and which them death...

When they talk you want them dead...

I can't become a monster just because I want to become a Goodman in some people's eye, they rather see me as a badman while I fight for justice for those that deserves it.
Needless to say, that's what me and my brothers are doing for their cousins in the south South.

I stand for justice for the ND.
Is only appalling that what this country hear is violence that's when their is arms involved then they will swift to action, and if not, nobody will listen to you let alone talk for you...

What a useless country...

For the fact that the ND has stood up for their right, I can only but support them and give encouragement while we become optimistic that the problems being raised is solved, so peace can reign...

if you can't spoil your land, pls don't encourage others to do same, oil will never bring development and has never brought development anywhere, The ND are fighting the wrong battles as the fellows who have made billions from their resources can go elsewhere to invest. Nigeria will get off oil gradually as it has now been clearly seen that oil can never bring true development.

I repeat the ND are wasting their time and those of you supporting the destruction of their land while yours remain intact.

EasternActivist:
You are the biggest Hypocrite ever.

Why would my fellow fking countrymen want me to get pass a violence and metamorphosis it into a bigger violence for his gratification. I wouldn't blink if you rot in hell for humanity sake.

Now why are you now concerned about what's happening in the niger delta region?

Why do you want the igbos condemn the ND so badly..?

Why do you want the ipob to condemn the ND that wants their leader released.?

Is it because you will be affected?
Is it because if the economy goes down, you are doomed?
Is it because you envy the peaceful region of the SE?
Is it because the ND is speaking for their right?

No matter what, the advice you gave to yourself is the best advice...

And if you think NL has any effect on the reality on ground... Then open threads upon threads
And if you don't think so and you blame radio biafra, kindly open your own radio.

you see what am talking about, you can never imagine what's happening in the ND to happen in the SE, that is what the op is stressing here, stop the diversion Sir

EasternActivist:
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Why not address the root cause...

Or do we the you that the SE is fighting for resource control?
Do we tell you that we are fighting for Niger delta republic?

Do we tend you that the SE are now Niger deltans..... For your information the ND has decided and is only when they decide will they get support..

If they wish they can rescind their Decision tomorrow, the choice is always there's...

But I promise you, that I iwill always support them until they get the Justice that they deserve...

If they stop now, they are only postponing the dooms day... Nothing will change and it will be business as usual...
Let them talk their minds and let the world here their plight which this stupid country has given them a dead and rotten ear to.

you are only wasting your time Sir, oil never brings justice to anyone, both the ND and NDA are just wasting their time. Their states are the ones beginning to feel the imapct now, wike and dickson are already complaining that their states allocation will begin to reduce, they thought initially that it was PMB's problem, forgetting PMB got his back covered with revenue from other sources.

The world has no pity for the stupidity of the ND and NDA, oil has never brought true development anywhere in the world Sir.

freakthingz:
Just look at what you are saying how will blowing up a building in enugu affect buhari or forex now ask yourself if oil exports decrease and economy grinds to a halt even you in ur sw. region will feel it even ur babalawos will be affected human sacrifice in Ogun, Osun, Ibadan will triple so pls come up with something better from your educated head


Look into the butterfly effect and understand that that pipeline in a small non descript village in ss will bring all 160million to their knees, also biafra no concern us for SS dem dey, we dey

my guy, oil is a curse to Nigeria and we will never develop with oil, if oil was so special and indeed a blessing, the oil communities will be happy, all over the world oil has never brought development and true happiness, only economic diversification brings true development. even countries like venezuela despite using their oil properly in the past did not develop much, the alberta province in canada that produces oil is groaning now. Those oil communities in the niger delta are wasting their time, they will never develop.

Nigeria was doing fine until oil came and if not for oil, we will be better than south africa today. As long as we continue to fight for oil, sectors like tourism, agriculture, real estate, Transportation will never boom in Nigeria which is making the likes of Dubai, kenya, south africa even ethiopia growing economically. Nigeria must get off oil, that is the solution to this crisis.

EasternActivist:
The SE can't be fooled in the grossly manner SS are presently being fooled...

The ND should stand up and fight because they have their answers and their questions boldly written in their region...

If they can force the federal govt to come and press home their demands and foresee their threatening problems in their region that will be a good top shot that will always bring in my support...

For how long will they be cheated by Nigeria...
They own the oil but they don't have it... That's not normal and something has to be done...

Am not an Hypocrite... Nd needs justice... And maybe that's why God gave them NDA... Loose a little and gain big...

Besides this is not a new news that an oil pipeline exploded... It has always been part of their life..

you are an hypocrite cos you will never support anyone who destroy your land. why did the biafra protests not get violent enough to destroy infrastructure in the SE? are they not fighting for justice too?

Any yes blowing pipelines in the niger delta has always been part of their life abi? How quick are you to abandon and deny them to continue in wanton destruction. Sir, the op has truly exposed who you truly are

the marketers can never survive without subsidy, that's what has been keeping them in business for so long which also makes them credit worthy to banks, now that subsidy is gone, most of them will wind up soon. Only the major marketers can survive post subsidy regime.

Most Nigerians don't understand this. The only solution to the fuel crisis, is working refineries period.

EasternActivist:
I have seen that Many yorubas are illiterate because of poor source of information...

What is I heard, I think, I expect doing in your context op?

Better go and educate yourself...

I stand with the NDA...

Part of delta that the explosion are occurring are also igbo land

you only stand with NDA as long they do not touch the SE

The Op's question has unsettled my brothers from the se, they can never support anyone who destroys their land for any reason but rejoices when other lands are destroyed.

I remembered how they rejoice when mile 12 crisis was on but started crying foul to the whole world when the herdsmen invaded some parts of the se. This is who they are, they can never wish for what is happening in the niger delta to happen in the se, they would have been crying to ICC by now.

Oil is a curse to Nigeria, the earlier we get off oil, the better for us. who the oil don epp apart from greedy politicians, the oil at $100 never added value to the Nigerians, so what's the fuss if its $50

kazuna:
I wont say i hate Buhari....
But i despise him nonetheless (guess its d samething as hate)

What u said is true.

The militants should be aggressive towards their state governments and the NDDCs.

Imagine the federal government like Odin (if u are in the Marvel's universe, since we are talking about avengers) He blessed (hands out allocations) to his sons (governors) for them to utilize. These sons fail to deploy, pockets 90% of the money and yet the Avengers will allways strike back at Odin (the FG).

If u dont pressure the governors they will continue to eat ur money. The niger delta, even PH is severly underdeveloped. I could remember the first time i was embarking on a journey to ph, my initial impressions were of a city closer to Abuja in terms of infrastructure (considering the huge revenues they get , almost twice that of Rwanda), i was serially disappointed...in some sense Enugu where i started the journey from seemed well off.

I was angry at the state governments, and i was mad at the people for not reacting against their larcenous governors.

Then i visited Akwa ibom. There were changes. You could at least say some oil money went into gigantuan projects. But She is the exception. Other states seem to just be there...Backwater.

The ND Avengers (i must confess i like u guys, anythang to counter buhari , this might come back to haunt me) should devote their energy to putting their state governments on edge not the FG.

FG doles out the 13%, State governors pockets 10% in offshore tax havens and Britain high real estate.

the truth is Oil to Nigeria is a curse, Nigeria will never develop with oil, the niger delta folks are wasting their time and burning their energy instead of channeling it to more profitable ventures. Countries like kenya and ethipoia are growing economically without oil. Nigeria was doing fine before oil came. if we had no oil, Nigeria will be better than south africa by now. if oil was a blessing, those oil communities will be better off today but are they? NO because oil is a curse. The foundation when oil began was faulty and the Bible says if the foundation be destroyed what can the righteous do, talk less about the unrighteous. Oil can never do Nigeria any good

If they continue with their destruction, it will only push the FG to get off oil as quickly as possible.

omowolewa:
My wishes are that:

They should use steals from Ajaokuta/Osogbo steal rolling mill;

They should employ 90% Nigeria staff;

They should use Nigerian fabricated equipment except there is no alternative;

That the funding should be source through FDI.

you can't tell folks who will bring in their money where to source their raw materials from