₦airaland Forum

BUHARIDONMAD:
Truth be told, buhari screwed up when he said that we are 5%. He shouldn't have said such thing, he is the president and shd be mindful of what he is saying. 1983 no be 2016, boiz don wise up

Gej said that the Igbo's were the backbone of his govt, no one crucified him for that, he called sw rascals, they did not take arms, his wife called a whole region born throw away children and many more. Whatever PMB said, GeJ and his wife were also guilty of the same. Let's stop over reacting and crying like babies.

The 5% statement was never enough to destroy infrastructures.

Anytime NDA strikes, folks rejoice but when the army wants to strike back, folks start to cry out that it will backfire. I see interesting times ahead. We are watching

NavierStokes:
Renewable energies are not and will not be a substitue for crude oil in the short term. As someone who has an extensive background in several fields, mechanical/aerospace/renewables/petroleum engineering, crude will remain relevant up to the 2050's and if not beyond.
A lot is being done in the renewables especially the offshore wind farms being developed in Europe (for which I and my team were to come up with standards for their structural integrity, before I made a marked chance in my career ) all the same oil is here to stay reason why despite the low oil prices big oil and gas companies are still trying to strategically increase reserves either by mergers, acquisitions or the cheaper option of exploration.

If you held the view that oil was everything please still stick to it.
The oil is not the problem, the mindset of the leaderships of most of these countries are. I see no reason why the Emiratis or Qataris or Australians or Canadians will say their mineral resources are a curse.

Mineral resources never developed UAE or Australia but economy diversification did, oil has never developed any nation and will never if not Nigeria would have developed long time ago. Oil is not everything and will never be. It will continue to be there but only economic diversification brings true development

NavierStokes:

Global GDP again!!! I will not repeat myself bro. If japan desires some form of growth, a look at her figures will require increased energy demand, the fact she doesn't produce the commodity will put her in some form of trade to either get the raw commodity or the refined products, in that wayher growth is still tied to the commodity indirectly. That's why I have taken time to point out that directly or indirectly all economies in the world are tied to crude.

You talk as if only crude oil provides energy, are you not aware of other renewable energy sources, like I have been made to believe everything is on oil, that's your problem I can see

NavierStokes:
There you go again, from your argument Thailand as a country has no dependence on petroleum, whats her source of energy. I have told you to look at the big picture you still find it hard to see things with with larger screen. I Repeat GLOBAL GDP and oil are highly and positively correlated.
As regards Lagos are you implying there is no drop in her accrued revenues?
There is a reason it is called blackgold, insofar as we have no other relaible source of energy, all economies will directly or indirectly be dependent on oil. Please never make your myopic assertions in the gathering of the learned.

I recall a little child whom when you give him some money to say buy biscuits he will use it all for biscuits, give him 10000 naira and he will use it all up for biscuits.
Think very hard at the relationships sorry if I am not doing a good job lecturing you on this.

You are the one that does not have understanding, the fact that oil is source of energy for a country does not mean their economy is tied to oil, pls understand this. Are you saying with global gdp argument that oil determines the wealth of countries. Is Japan economy buoyant cos of oil? Is Thailand a rich country cos of oil? Is China the 2nd largest economy in the world cos of oil? Is US what it is cos of oil? Lagos have no complaints with the oil slump as this year they made over 100 billion naira in IGR in four months which was unbelievable. Like I said earlier you have been told everything comes from oil.

That I put petrol in my car does not mean I feed on oil

AROZIBE:
broz d city of velencia in spain just celebrated there tomato festival were they throw tomatoes at each oda , guy we can import it wit well oiled money.

Sorry we need to grow our tomatoes here if we are serious, if disease dey we must look for the solution here, in Spain don't they have diseases on their farm? Importation of what we have here is what is compounding our woes

NavierStokes:
Why I say you are lacking at understanding how the parts form into a whole, you already mentioned oil as possibly providing initial capital, listing world economies the USA, China, Japan, Europe etc are all countries whose development are tied to petroleum, reason oil is called a primary source because from it everything else has it's cause, and world systems are being maintained. If I'll were to be inconsequential I am sure the world would have stopped looking for it, let's take our own Lagos as an example, what activities take place here in Lagos?
Banking, taxes, Insurance, Manufacturing, imports etc

With oil prices or income low what is happening to manufacturing?
Where do the banks and insurance companies make the bulk of their money? As they are currently they are highly exposed since the bulk of their investments are already in oil and gas.
The bulk of the taxes where do you think it's coming from, despite government telling you about 840billion naira in the budget coming from direct sales of crude what about profit taxes that's almost 85% of profits, what about oil and gas personnel taxes being paid to tbe government.

If you are thinking about how oil will be used directly to grow tomatoes, then you are thinking / seeing through a very small lens.
You have a tomatoes problem, where will money for research against tuta absoluta come from? Where will money for fertilizers etc come from, the transportation, and every other aspect of your tomatoe's value chain will still felt directly or indirectly on oil.

The nexus is pretty strong,but you need to look a little more deeper to see the connection.

There is a reason financial experts hfrom available sata have shown that oil price and global GDP are highly and positively correlated, you refusing to accept that, doesn't take away the fact that it is fact.

if you have initial capital and that's all, how do you sustain the business? oil is primary source but its not renewable, the world only keeps looking for oil cos of its cheap money, americans o yes love petrol dollars cause it comes easy and so everyone keeps looking for oil. Please look up thailand on wikipedia and see how rice production contributes to their economy in form of taxes as their major tax revenue comes from rice, o yes thailand is running on oil abi? Oil can be used to kick start other sectors but can never sustain it, the world will continue to look for oil cos its one of the easiest and cheapest money to get around but serious countries don't tie themselves too much to oil cos of its fluctuations in global prices.

despite the slump in oil prices, why is Lagos still generating lots of IGR if all the banking, insurance and manufacturing are all tied to oil as you are inferring, you need to explain this and as for your tomato illustration its laughable, you mean its only oil that can provide money for research on tomatoe diseases, mhen there are international organisations that can fund such research.

I don't blame you much, its because you were told everything comes from oil

AROZIBE:
u forgot that Nigeria import if not most everytin including toothpick ,rice, even d sachet used in pakaging ur pure water! What does ur tomatoes acct for tell me.

bros tomato scarce, we need solution, let your oil come to our rescue now or forever hold thy peace

Unbrandedguy:
Don't worry, we have asked for your support before, you didn't help .. We'd do it another way, the way Nigeria will understand. Thank God the SS and SE are better united now than before.

yea cos you were insulting us and asking for help at the same time, you guys are double faced and most folks don't take you serious. I wish your ipob rebranded NDA good luck but please don't blame yorubas for your woes anymore as your destiny is now in your hands

NavierStokes:
You looking at things from a myopic lens. Oil drives the world, whether you like it or not.

you are lying, oil is not driving any world economy, the money thailand is making from rice production is more than the money Nigeria makes from oil, you guys have been deceived, oil has not brought any development to any part of the world, oil is not driving the economies of china, US and europe or you want to tell me the english premiership if you watch it is driven by oil, common oil is not that special, it can only give you start -up capital to establish other sectors but can never sustain it due to fluctuation in prices which is what is affecting the FG. Lagos state can continue to pay salaries and attract FDI because it is off oil, which is what other states should emulate

If oil was that special, it should be able to solve our tomato wahala now but alas it can't. Oil is not renewable, ok?

NavierStokes:
Please tell him. The plots of oil price changes and global gdp against time are remarkably identical, which is to say oil drives the world economy and all other business activities are driven directly or indirectly by the oil industry. Banking, insurance, petrochemicals name them.

Okay, Please I need tomato, let your oil produce it for me now since oil drives the world economy

GWMI:
this anger will still be direct at you yorubas because you are unrepented hypocrites and betrayals.Yes there is always a time people fall for wrong campaign promises but to remain unmoved in your wrong decisions only means you will defend Buhari and all his delivish policies forever.You said you are not bothered about the oppointment but you were quick to say Goodluck marginalized the Yorubas that was why you voted against him what a double tongue and hypocrisy.Or is it because Goodluck is from a Minority tribe in Nigeria?I will forever remember the events of 2015 because it shows who many really people are.How dubious and bad hearted Many tribes are in Nigeria.It is a bitter lesson.Thanks.

and you will later come back to the yorubas again to campaign for your candidate or ask us to support resource control, these were some of the things you fellows were saying before the elections last year and still you are not learning. That's why we call you cry babies

hand of esau but voice of jacob, ipob rebranded, looks like kanu gonna have a room mate soon but I admire their persistence but its criminal and such energies can be used for more profitable things but that's the way they want it and should be ready for its consequences.

Mskrisx:
U are very right....

She was Odili's help, Amaechi was his boy then and one thing led to another, she took in for Amaechi and was asked to marry her.
Odili helped in financing that wedding but Amaechi turned his back at Odili and became a wolf over night.

Odili made Amaechi who he is today but am sure he regrets knowing him.

wao, such is life, levels change, status change but amechi still recognizes odili, heard him in a recent interview where he said he can never utter strong words against odili but truth is politics divided them all

experimentist:
O boy, this script go sweet for Super Story Drama. Let's work on it. In fact add [Copyright Protected]

in fact the film don de make me cry sef let me know when its out

demslayerrz:
We were not fully represented during the reigns of GEJ until last year when he was looking for election favors, he even said the IBOs were the backbone of his government, no one cry nor scream for that statement. He said one region is being ruled by rascals, no one cried. The wife said one region give birth to born throw way children, no one make noise.

I dont even care about the Buhari guy, appointment of my kinsmen wont change anything. We all pay to buy fuel, light and everything. They should direct there anger to there elites and not the Yorubas. We contribute to the FG same way all regions contribute in there own way.

Exactly, this is why I maintained that GEJ was a bigot, he and his wife said all sort of things against other tribes from rascals to born throw away children. The truth is his supporters have forgotten all these and prefer to hang PMB for his own statements while GEJ never said anything wrong as far as they are concerned. Bunch of jokers.

GWMI:
sir age is a number your maturity is the words that come out of your mouth.Nobody is misinforming any body here Buhari is to blame you keep dening the truth how will you then be free?they spoke about oil blocks.Now let me ask will the Yorubas have allowed other Nigeria tribe aquire 90% of the oil blocks if it belongs to them(the yorubas)?The injustice going on in Nigeria knows no end.Thanks.

oga, is it the yorubas that corner all the oil blocks? Please I just said in one of my posts above that I wish the NDA good luck in their endeavors.

Moreover I saw the oil block and their owners on a thread where it was proved that lots of folks from the Niger delta own oil blocks and some of your people denied it, so nobody is even sure of your 90% issue? Please leave yorubas out of these

Faith111:
There you go...No one owes anyone apology for having a divergent political view or voting any1.
All we need is the way forward....
We can't be fooled anymore. Nigeria is a Country of a few powerful people. The minimum wage in Canada is 10 dollar per hour (Mainly odd jobs) thats about 250k per Month and 10$/hr in the U.S of A thats about 500k per month while it's just 18k in Nigeria.
And how many graduates in Nigeria can boast of having the 18k Job?
If we must progress, we must break out and try something new.
Instead of our youths to face reality and look out the way forward, they are busy taking sides with selfish politicians whose Children are overseas enjoying quality Education, Healthcare, Light, Security, good Roads, Water, good Governance, good Legal framework that is not biased and selective e.t.c.
Shall we continue like this and think Peace will Abound? Certainly not!

fine, I think the NDA are trying something new, I wish them good luck

Faith111:


There you go...No one owes anyone apology for having a divergent political view or voting any1.
All we need is the way forward....
We can't be fooled anymore. Nigeria is a Country of a few powerful people. The minimum wage in Canada is 10 dollar per hour (Mainly odd jobs) thats about 250k per Month and 10$/hr in the U.S of A thats about 500k per month while it's just 18k in Nigeria.
And how many graduates in Nigeria can boast of having the 18k Job.
If we must progress we must break out and try something new.
Instead of our youths to face reality and look out the way forward, they are busy taking sides with selfish politicians whose Children are overseas enjoying quality Education, Healthcare, Light, Security, good Roads, Water, good Governance, good Legal framework that is not biased and selective e.t.c.
Shall we continue like this and think Peace will Abound? Certainly not!

fine, then some people should stop disturbing us too for voting their son out, any mistake so far made by PMB has been blamed on the likes of tinubu for not supporting GEJ. If the NDA can solve their problem by blowing all the pipelines, I wish them good luck

demslayerrz:
Many of them are ignorant. I use my own money to buy fuel, pay my tax, electricity and everything. I dont receive any monthly stipend from government nor get free oil, even the government generates money from the Port in my home state yet some ediots are throwing insult around. My state contributes the most to the non oil revenue, even Ondo state in SW produce oil, so why the insult on the Yorubas?

don't mind them jor, its their niger delta rights activists that keeps misinforming these kids, tomato scarce, dem say na militants cause am, pele dear, we just have to tolerate these kids for now. We give dem President, dem still dey disturb us, i tire for them o

BABANGBALI:
I hate am pass you 10 million times

No hatred bruv, we may hate what saraki does, but I love what am seeing na make saraki no lay hands on top those children head transfer im anointing na im be my concern o

Seriously i love what he is doing, nice to see our senate president interacting with children. I just pray those children will not end up like saraki o but I love what I see

989900B:
Why are Rivers state, Ondo state, Cross river, and Akwa Ibom not like Bayelsa and Delta?

Bayelsa's governor already answered first part of the question.

The second part is, their leaders are nothing but crooks too.

O my God na wa o

GWMI:
my dear nobody is crying forgiveness here.Buhari is a tribalistic person.my question is, would all this have happened if Buhari have given out his appointments fairly?NO.Rather he choose to call the minorities 5% that is an insult.Buhari is forever to blame for any problem Nigeria is going through today.I promise you no amount of persuading will calm this boys down.Buhari have gone to his limit he must RESIGN for peace to reign in Nigeria.Thanks.

GEJ was not fair in his appointments either and he appealed to the yoruba obas that he will rectify it if voted back into office so all this talk of PMB not fair in his appointments is all bullshit, let's stop crying when things don't go our way. The yorubas felt marginalized under GEJ and never destroyed Govt properties to register their grievances. And if you think PMB insulted, GEJ and his wife insulted lots of folks but you guys have forgotten

Faith111:
O then, if the Marriage called Nigeria no longer works why don't we split.
Why Hate people who seek Regionalism.
Whenever I take time to read topics on NL, I'm always amazed at the degree of Hatred and Insensitivity put up by the Yorubas in particular.
Sorry you feel bad, but I feel terrible.
Regionalism seems like the only solution.
Enough of the pretence, each region will do better on their own. God has blessed us in diverse ways and we will never know it till we split.
Trust me we youths will be better off that way.
The few powerful people who deceitfully Stand for A united Nation are doing so cos of their personal interest.
The youths need to wake up.

yourubas have never hated people who seek regionalism, its another lie you guys are spreading. when Nigeria is ready for regionalism, yorubas will be the first to vote for it so you have an ally but you guys keep bashing the yorubas for not voting GEJ and you think that's the best way to go. I have said it all, the SS and SE lacks political tact and diplomacy, when they are ready, people will take them more serious

sammhi:
this issue was raised up and Edwin clark publish list of all ministers and Head of parastatals by state of origin...and it was equal distribution...
Yoruba was minster of investment and minster of agric
Maybe , yes he could have given some juicy positions to you guys but he promised to rectify these when he visited obas during the campaign...
Aluko and Sowore are yorubas who made billions in GEJ era..
why can't you guys give him benefit of doubt..
ok..we are in this together now..let's pray it's is not going get worse than this

you see, he was not fair after all cos he wouldn't have lied to the obas.

AROZIBE:
if Nigeria is 95% dependent on oil den we all do cause d money u get from ur business and other trades are oil money.

you are not making sense bruv, is oil responsible for the tomato scarcity now? so it is oil that is feeding farmers in Nigeria ba?

bishopkay:
Way to go but let's start with true federalism first!

Enough of regional parasitism in Nigeria. Hell stealing my house and offering me the job of a gate man.

This guy, why are you crying more than the bereaved

The "oyel" isn't that special any more so why do you people jump, hit yourselves on the floor and weep and "advice" anytime you hear NDA? Shuu

You said in one of your posts the SS and SE didn't vote PMB so he's right to marginalize them so I have a question for you.

1. Is Buhari president of Nigeria or the north and SW?
2. The people of the SS and SE, are they part of Nigeria or not?

Last bullet: Every body has a right of association. I have a right to vote whom ever I choose!

Upon the hate and sabotage meted out on Jonathan by the north, he never marginalized them nor made any 5% and 97% speech against them. Hell they even stoned his convoy in the north...if that happens to Buhari today, won't he order his security detail to shoot at the people?

Even upon the hate, the man even developed the backward region more than any leader from their region has ever done at the expense of his southern origin. So just give up already in your campaign to justify Buhari's brazen act of stupid talk

Lies as usual , oh what a day

AROZIBE:
. This same oil has fed ur generations for year, ur entire family is still surviving and dependent on somtin u claim cannot bring development; guy try n be realistic.

sorry, i do not live off oil, those who told you that everybody in Nigeria lives on oil are your greatest enemies. If you say your oil is feeding greedy politicians, you may be right but that all Nigerians live on oil, chai, you have been lied to.

Onyejiuwaokoh:
northerners supported Jonathan? U are not living in Nigeria or maybe u are a chronic liar just like the present government. The first day Jonathan was sworn in after the death of Yaradua, there was riot in the north. In 2011, when Jonathan won the election, there was bloody riot and hundreds of people killed including 12 NYC members. When Jonathan removed the fuel subsidy, the north violently shot down the their region and there was no movement then. Buhari won nobody was killed in the east, and now there is no light,no fuel and price of goods increased by 100% and nobody fights him. He removed the fuel subsidy and the same north that fought against it hypocritically were matching in support of subsidy removal.

so why can't you guys march against the subsidy removal this time, must everything be done for you? You want the people in govt to march against themselves, na wa for una o

Faith111:
Secretly? Wait a minute. You are seriously contradicting what you guys openly and selfishly yearn for 'A so-called United Nation'
If you guys long for Regionalism, then why the Hate?
On the other hand we don't need your support cos you guys are as unstable as the Waters.
Openly for A and Secretly for B.

I don't hate any Tribe cos I'm related to over 5 tribes in Nigeria including Yoruba.
Look through my posts and you'll find out that I've never said anything odd about the Yorubas.
But i hate Insincere and Insensitive people.
If the Yorubas were the ones that had oil in their land, everyone would have had to buy tickets daily in other to use crude products like petrol aside the actual cost.

interesting, yes we long for regionalism but we will never destroy any infrastructure to make our demands, that's the difference, call us names if you like, we easily move on unlike our brothers across the Niger. if what happened to abiola on june 12 had happened to our brothers across the niger, the civil war that will erupt will still be on till today. The yorubas have had its fair share of marginalization and political robberies but we easily move on and keep on strategizing, we have been in opposition for a very long time and we never broke bottle sef or cry for sovereign state just because things don't go our way.

Airtime:
my brother you are wrong, what are your attributes then as a good leader? your subjects insulted you does not mean you will insult them back. as a leader you are expected to forgive nd forget, bring everybody together and not putting more fire...

oga PMB is human and so are you, GEJ never spared Bankole the former house speaker when he assumed office, Bankole was held by his trousers when he was arrested by the efcc, why did you not preach forgiveness to GEJ then, when he was hounding amaechi and el rufai all over the place, who told GEJ about forgiveness. You see the problem with us? we only shout when it comes to our end. we will never move on that way sir. GEJ insulted the likes of obj back then and he was hailed. when we said GEJ was not showing leadership, we were called haters and all sorts.