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 Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 11:25am On Jul 24, 2013 |
ijawkid:^ What does that scripture says? Me sef don confusion naw o  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Shall We Continue In Sin? by Goshen360(m): 11:23am On Jul 24, 2013 |
Why you come dey start similar thread wey I dey plan to start soon naw? Anyway, I never read through. I will read and just follow up. About to go receive my daily bread. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 11:19am On Jul 24, 2013 |
@ Enigma, Egbon mi, e ku ise oluwa o. Exposition lati Greek l'agbara ju.  Make I help you translate am into English for people to see. You know say no be everybody understand Greek wey you wan start now. Now the Lord is the Spirit . . .2 Corinthians 3:17 In Goshen360 translation, The Lord (Christ) = The Spirit (Holy Spirit). Frosbel and Ijawkid and truthislight, please how can Jesus = Holy Spirit? Me sef don start dey confuse here o |
| Politics › Re: Senate Denies Endorsing Child Marriage Law by Goshen360(m): 11:12am On Jul 24, 2013 |
The FEAR of Tunde Bakare's threat to mobilize Nigerians (https://www.nairaland.com/1368600/bakare-threatens-mobilise-nigerians-against) is the beginning of WISDOM for the SENATE! I laugh in tongues. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Saints And Sinners by Goshen360(m): 5:49am On Jul 24, 2013 |
Enigma: @Goshen360I respond in numbering I have made above: 1. I always thank and appreciate you for your kind fellowship towards me from time to time on this forum even though we might disagree on 'just few' things. I know we agree on most things though. First, I know you too long enough to know you don't advocate nor preach MOSES neither do you advocate\advance the religion and binding of the law to Christians - that's my own context of Judaizers. I'm convinced you are not one of them at all. 2. Now, I understand the 'context' of your balance not. Just like we say, Grace is freedom and the balance is Grace is not a license. Thanks! 3. Read my post again, I NEVER said I don't ask for forgiveness. I said, I don't follow the message of the LORD under the law when he said, "forgive so you can be forgiven" BUT I follow Christ's revelation AFTER the resurrection to the Apostles that I ask for forgiveness BECAUSE I HAVE ALSO RECEIVE FORGIVENESS SO I ALSO MUST OR FORGIVE. Remembering yourself or ourselves of our sins which God doesn't remember is our\your righteousness UNDER ATTACK. (I will soon start a thread on this righteousness under attack soon). 4. As for not falling for the teaching of more than one gospel. Well, I don't have time to discuss that with shdemidemi yet but I believe and hold there is ONE Gospel - The Gospel of Grace. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel. Galatians 1:6 For there to be reprove against 'another' gospel, it means there's one. I think shdemidemi is just not finding the right way of saying it or he might not find the right words to express his teachings. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Saints And Sinners by Goshen360(m): 5:24am On Jul 24, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: I have broken all of the 10 commandments in spirit, if not in letter, and because of this sin nature we all need to repent for the forgiveness of our sins and to go on to sanctification.If you have broken the commandments, whether it is 10 or not, does that take away your righteousnesses in Christ before God? (2) Does that change your new nature (righteousness) back to the old Adamic nature (sinner)? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 5:15am On Jul 24, 2013 |
ijawkid: But goshen don't tell me you didn't see the clause ONE attched to the Father alone.......So ONE is not used for Jesus also? Ephesians 4:5 ijawkid: It is not enough for you to say Jesus is called God.....If it is not enough, will you mind explain what God is doing beside his name? ijawkid: All we need from trinitarians is quote a scripture which is like 1 corinthians 8:6 that associates the oneness of God to 3 beings or just the son alone just as it did with the Father.......Are you really sure you want scriptures? Lemme show you one: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Hebrews 9:14 This single verse revealed the THREE: Father, Son and the Spirit. Other Scriptures called each of them GOD. Can you deny other scriptures didn't call each of the three present in this verse GOD? ijawkid: I want to see a scripture that says but to us there is but one God the son......or that to us there is but one God the Father,son and holy spirit.......You are asking for scriptures and we show scriptures and yet you say no, it's not enough. Is it only one verse that makes up the whole bible? We have put the pieces together for you and you said no. Just put the pieces together. ijawkid: It is only the Father that is the one God.....that is why Jesus can rightly call that Father my GOD just as you and me would do.......And the FATHER did not call Jesus the Son GOD? But unto the Son he (THE FATHER) saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Hebrews 1:8 Father acknowledged the Son as God and the Son acknowledged the Father as God. Who then is God and who is NOT God? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 11:52pm On Jul 23, 2013*. Modified: 12:12am On Jul 24, 2013 |
frosbel: For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father.. - 1 Corinthians 8:5-6I don't argue the scripture you quoted. Bible never refer to Christ as gods. Even you are god but every gods that have NOT CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH WILL PERISH UNDER HEAVEN, Jeremiah 10:11 but we know Christ didn't perish but resurrected and alive and scripture says HEAVEN AND EARTH WAS CREATED BY HIM. You should know what 'gods' mean in the context of that verse you quoted. We go see tomorrow.  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Goshen360 And Tbaba. Pharisees Of Different Religions by Goshen360(m): 10:32pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
alexleo: @Goshen360 and Bidam and others,Bless you my beloved brother! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 10:28pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
frosbel: Show me ONE place bro in scripture, where it says God is 3.First, I didn't say God is THREE otherwise I would be saying something scripture did not say. I just said scripture says GOD is ONE and at the same time, scriptures called\identified THREE being as GOD. How then do you put these things together as interpretation is what you finding difficult? Okay, you said I should show you right? Look at it here: New International Version (©2011) You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder. James 2:19 The above and many more scriptures eternal confirms the is ONE GOD and we believe this truth. In the light of that truth, scriptures also says: New International Version (©2011) Paul, an apostle--sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead. Galatians 1:1 First, we have read there is ONE God. Second, the above scripture in Galatians called and identified the FATHER as GOD. New International Version (©2011) But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. Hebrews 1:8 Thirdly, the FATHER who is himself God called and identified the Son (Christ) as GOD in Hebrews 1:8. What then is the explanation? We have to bring both together and interpret as ONE. So one scriptures don't contradict the other. THERE IS ONE GOD but we have read two people being identified as GOD so far. New International Version (©2011) How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God! Hebrews 9:14 Lastly, we read the Spirit being Eternal and that makes him God. God is ONE no doubt and so, do we ignore all the three scriptures that also identified three being in this ONE God? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 9:56pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
frosbel: Show me ONE place bro in scripture, where it says God is 3.You still don't understand what I'm saying but I will show you now. Hold on in a minute. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: An Invitation To A Theological Discuss On One Corinthians Chapter Four by Goshen360(m): 9:40pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
^ Make una continue my brother. I have little time during the week, occupied with work but I'm usually off on Thursdays and Fridays. I also use those two days to do lots of run around for the week but will surely contribute and\or reply most of the contributions and the rest of the days, I will contribute slowly. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 8:24pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
frosbel: Truly heart breaking to watch our brothers fall over each other with error upon error.Who said so? God is one! Yet, scripture calls 3 being God. Put the pieces together frosbel. I think you have problem of 'interpretation' on this one. Okay, lemme blow it up! You quote scriptures that says God is ONE, we don't dispute or argue that with you because we believe and accept God is ONE, NOT THREE. We also quote to you scriptures, more than one that says Jesus is God, you say NO. So the problem is not scriptures, it is 'interpretation' of how you refused to put the two scriptures together and explain it perfectly. Forget about the word 'trinity' and answer to scriptures that also called Christ God. If scripture called Christ God and also say there is One God, your job is to bring those two scriptures together so it won't read like one scripture is lying and the other saying the truth. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Goshen360 And Tbaba. Pharisees Of Different Religions by Goshen360(m): 5:26pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
Logicboy03: pharisee laughter |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 4:50pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
Goshen360: Okay, frosbby my beloved, |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 2:45pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
frosbel: Bro. God does not need Giants to explain his word for him , he needs babes .Yes but babes knows nothing unless revealed or taught to them. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 2:43pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
frosbel: Jesus was a born of a WOMAN, what do you call a being born of a WOMAN ?Before he was born as human, who or what was he? 2. If God created everything by his WORD. Who is the word according to John 1:1 and Colossians 1:16, a being or words of mouth? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 2:37pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
debosky: Ok Frosbel - let's get down to the brass tacks.Chei, see question! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Brother Frosbel, Please Stop This Fight Against Trinity by Goshen360(op): 2:34pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
Okay, frosbby my beloved, I don come with my systematic kweshun now. Answer one after the other. 1. Genesis 1:1, who did the bible say created heaven and earth? 2. Colossians 1:16, who did Paul revealed created all things, including heaven and earth that genesis 1:1 says? Answer those two and I ask more. Thanks |
| Christianity Etc › Re: An Invitation To A Theological Discuss On One Corinthians Chapter Four by Goshen360(m): 2:23pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
Una don lost me finish for this thread sef. I will soon call for the 'convention of grace' for the grace teachers o. Anyway, I will contribute fully again on Thursday and Friday, my days off from work. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Goshen360 And Tbaba. Pharisees Of Different Religions by Goshen360(m): 1:50pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Saints And Sinners by Goshen360(m): 5:53am On Jul 22, 2013 |
I will continue in the discussion slowly during the week. I have to go start preparing for my new week now. Bless you all. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Saints And Sinners by Goshen360(m): 5:47am On Jul 22, 2013 |
Bidam: I don't think you re right in this,firstly you should know that the bible was written in greek not English language,take time to still visit that verse again.it says chief/worst of sinners and not head as you would have us believe.Secondly it might do you some good to have study materials like the Strong's exhaustive concordance to understand scriptures in their greek context better.Wetin I hear you talk so in the highlight above? So when I used same Strong's Exhaustive Concordance to tell you guys what fornication means 'in their greek context' better, do you believe me then? Na now you dey say make shdemidemi go dey study greek. Prophet, you take style wicked o. Anyway, shdemidemi is RIGHT if we go by the same Strong's Concordance to dig out the Greek meaning of 'chief'. Here's what it means, it is the Greek word, prōtos and it means: 1) first in time or place a) in any succession of things or persons 2) first in rank a) influence, honour b) chief c) principal 3) first, at the first From online Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4413&t=KJV Therefore, translations that have it translated 'WORST of them all sinners' instead of 'FOREMOST of them all sinners' ARE WRONG! 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Saints And Sinners by Goshen360(m): 5:32am On Jul 22, 2013 |
Bidam: If you really are a believer, you will know that since Christ is our righteousness, no one seeks justification.Even if the righteous falls 7 times there's always a rising and that was why John says a child of God cannot sin.Could you now pls answer the qweshion rabbi?So na like this prophet Bidam dey take answer kweshun shey? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Made You Leave Your Church To Start Attending Another. by Goshen360(m): 1:57am On Jul 22, 2013 |
John 6:68 Amplified Bible (AMP) Simon Peter answered, Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words (the message) of eternal life. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Repent Or Perish by Goshen360(m): 12:48am On Jul 22, 2013 |
^ There's one of your post I'm looking for where you said something about God taking the Israelites out out Egypt (house of bondage) and you argued will God later give them the law to keep them in another bondage? Can you point me to that post please. Thank you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Conflicting accounts on the Genealogy of Joseph in Luke and Matthew Gospels by Goshen360(m): 11:37pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
truthislight: It means he is the son of God.Cool down naw. Na slowly slowly we go do am. You are giving too many info for one question. Okay, make I wait for frosbby make him come talk him own then we continue. Relax, you hear. We no go finish this talk in one day. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: An Invitation To A Theological Discuss On One Corinthians Chapter Four by Goshen360(m): 11:05pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Tgirl4real: ok. Thanks for honouring me with a response. I actually thot it's a 'tongue'. Lol ...rolling on the floor. You too be 'wicked' saint o. Chei, so you funny like this? Anyway, na Apostle Goshen dey speak in tongues o, shdemidemi doesn't speak mysteries in the spirit. I don laugh tire ooooo |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Saints And Sinners by Goshen360(m): 9:15pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Make una no vex o say I just dey view the topic and keep quiet. Na work I dey o. Make I make small money take care of my responsibilities naw and I dey read and warm up for sideline. I go soon enter field again o. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Saints And Sinners by Goshen360(m): 6:00pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
@JesusisLord85, I just checked your Galatians thread and others can do same if you actually answered the question asked in that thread. You said absolutely NOTHING and yet you're accusing me of what wasn't my intention. Please answer the question. @Bidam, Kindly answer the questions also so we can continue this discussion. Forget about how I talk, I'm human like you and you too, JesusisLord85 and many others do the same on this forum so leave the self righteousness aside and answer me please. Thank you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Saints And Sinners by Goshen360(m): 4:55pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: This is the very reason I do not advocate this line by line approach you and shdemidemi use. See my thread on Galatians, it gives correct context and application. When you have done this, you can tell us what you think.Don't get too personal about that bro, everyone has their own way of saying things. If you see it as being pompous, that's your opinion and not necessarily the heart of the speaker. That's my own way of systematically engaging people in reasoning and teaching the word. Now, just answer in simple question IN CONTEXT ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU HAVE ALSO TAUGHT ON YOUR GALATIANS THREAD and let's reason together. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Saints And Sinners by Goshen360(m): 4:30pm On Jul 21, 2013 |
Bidam: @shdemidemi,here is a scripture in which Paul called himself a sinner in the present tense.I'm trying to find time to do some teachings and it will benefit all, including you. Please don't take this statement as though I know it ALL. Now read that scripture again and if possible from other translations and see if it was talking about PAST OR PRESENT sins of Paul. But lemme help you or give you a hint on what I'm still finding time to teach WHAT MAKES PEOPLE SINNERS AND WHY PEOPLE SIN. Look at this scripture: Galatians 2:18 quote and\read from many translations and PLEASE TELL US WHAT MAKES A MAN A SINNER IN THAT VERSE. (2). What was it that Paul tore down if rebuilt would MAKE HIM A SINNER? |
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