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Ishilove: See this man o. I never enter your house you don dey threaten me. When I come become Mrs Goshen, na beat you go dey beat me! ![]() Oya, answer your phone sweerie. You know say I no dey like talk to you like that but as I come dey jealous wetin you dey go talk for obadiah777 na eim make me talk like that. Huh, Oya my sweerie. Make you answer your phone naw my my bp no come rise o...you know say na stubborn I take style stubborn small.huh. your is ringing again, Oya answer me sweerie. ![]() |
plaetton: And by extension, both deal with separate and distinct deities?Same God but done with the old. |
Ishilove: Shhhhh...hush it, sweetie. Must you tell the the whole world of our upcoming nuptials? You want those ya village people to scatter it?Which village people? So all the money I dey send you, na all these fall down and die pastors you dey go visit abi? You dey go carry my hard earn money go these deliverance ministers shey? Wetin concern me and village people? You never read say greater is he that's in me/us, than he that is in them? Okay, make I call you and make you no pick the call and see wetin wan happen. ![]() |
Bidam: It's rather pathetic that frauds like you don't even know the bible. It's not about head knowledge of scriptures but heart revelations of scriptures. wetin I dey read so? ![]() |
Ishilove: Yoo hoo, obadiah darling, how are you, my love?Why you like hurting my feelings all the time? So now is obadiah777 that is your darling love? But you just called him bl!ckhearted wicked sweerie. Why una women dey too love wicked blackhearted men sef? shey bi me and you don finish our discussion for phone say I will bring your white gold ring when am coming to naija. Which kind thing you come dey talk for public forum like this? Huh? ![]() |
plaetton: [/b]Yes, they different and distinct one from the other. |
MostHigh: Why u dey vex?Why is it hard for you to prove what you say from\with scriptures but you rather result to name calling. Just address my question not my person. Again, Goshen360: Now, show me\us from scriptures where STONE = DOCTRINE. |
^ I'm not gonna derail my brother's thread. I will have time and start a thread for you and me on this law and lawlessness issue you always come up with. Meanwhile, I leave you alone because you don't even understand the scripture I gave you. Lemme leave you not to derail this thread. |
I don't ever quote the old testament when it suits me. NEVER! I am under a new and better covenant. We don't stone people to death under our new covenant neither do we kill by the sword. Let's talk the new testament if you care @ plaetton. |
The old testament written to national Israel EXPLICITLY says stone to death, kill by the sword etc. The new testament NEVER explicitly say such things even it says the judgment of false prophets await them. Do not go beyond what is written! Under our new covenant, we don't stone people, including false brethren to death neither do we kill by the sword. Our new and better covenant allows for repentance and if such people don't repent, it is heaping judgment for themselves NOT INSTANT judgment like the old covenant. |
^ All I read in the above highlights is, judgment that await false prophets on the judgment day and them destroying themselves in their own ignorance. Can you highlight where they are stoned to death from Peter's epistle or where he says we should kill them by the sword? Thank you |
^ @ MostHigh, If you're not satisfied with the Aramaic I quoted up there and you still have excuses, kindly come up with your own Aramaic verse and let's see those scriptures flying in our eyes. Thank you. |
PhenomenonVFX: As much as I see what u are trying to do, I fear it would only be futile. The church has been instutitionalized. There is so much money at stake now. Most pastors got their "calling" because of the money. Others who got the true calling and dont even believe in tithing are being influenced by the majority.We understand all of these but we don't relent in our effort. More and more people are coming to the revelation of the truth. Don't discourage our brother. As the tithe collectors are not tired yet, we too aren't giving up. We shall spread the goodnews and free believers from the tithe gospel. |
frosbel: Thanks Goshen, but even John MacArthur does not teach 100% truth, we should really stop seeing these men as infallible .You are right 100% my dear brother. That's why I said, I don't just take what they teach, I search out the truth and discard what doesn't align with the new covenant where I or we belong. I don't quite agree on some MacArthur's teachings to be honest, just as you said. You remember one time we talked about on a thread how we study the word and we said, we both study but compare from other's teaching if we are in line just to check what we study? That's why I can stand by whatever I say and answer to scrutiny of my teachings. I don't really take them as my teachers but I do have their materials as part of my study materials in my hard copy library. Bless you for great job you doing here, pointing men to Christ! |
MostHigh: Greek primacy is a farce, just like you Mr GoshenAramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) 35Then Philippus opened his mouth and began from this Scripture to preach about our Lord Yeshua to him. Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) 36And as they were going on the road, they were arriving at one place that had water in it, and that Eunuch said, “Behold, water! What is the hindrance to me being baptized?” Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) 37And Philippus said, “If you believe with all the heart, it is authorized.” And he answered and said, “I do believe that Yeshua The Messiah is The Son of God.” Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) 38And he commanded to stop the chariot and the two of them went down to the water and Philippus baptized that Eunuch Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) 39And when they had come up from the water, The Spirit of THE LORD JEHOVAH took Philippus up and the Eunuch did not see him again, but he went on the road rejoicing. Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) 40But Philippus was found in Azotus and from there he was traveling and preaching in all the cities until he came to Qesarea. You see, you people (you, mosthigh and obadiah777) are just plainly being dishonest. That's your Aramaic version up there, what more do you have to say? Even your Aramaic in verse 36 says "they were going on the road" but your obadiah777 says it when they going deeper into the scriptures. What more do you have to use your deceit to support? |
^ Weldone my dear brother. The best argument to answer the Abraham one time tithe is not even that he gave it one time. It is the truth that, the Law was not in effect at that time and where there's no law, there's no sin. I know a man in the flesh on this forum that will argue that, Jesus only said you must be born again JUST ONE TIME and today we are all born again so what difference does the 'one time' makes? Therefore, there's no existing or official law binding Abraham to continue to tithe, I have paid tithe in the past more than once, can I be justified as someone who paid tithe to the Lord also considering I have done it more than once? They should answer this question. |
[quote author=i.chuka]@Goshen Great write up Hmmm,and Christ said"LOOSE HIM AND LET HIM GO" Though Lazarus has life(typifing a born again Christain),he is still incapable of "DOING" Upholding Gods Law represented by the grave clothings. it was still He, that gave him Life,was also He,who freed him from the bondage. We(Christains) are not called to "DO" but to allow the Law of Spirit in us to do the "DOING" for us. welcome bro.[/quote]Blessed art thou among this generation! Many of us Christians are missing the Law of the Spirit. Yes bro, it is He who gave him live that also said, LOOSE HIM AND LET HIM GO! I read your good works though. Our God increase you in his word! |
Alfa Seltzer: The bible is very clear about what should be done to false prophets. Majority of christians here accept that:The above ^ was written to the national Israel and not to the church. Hence it is of the OLD COVENANT. Alfa Seltzer: Jeremiah 14:15Again, this is the OLD COVENANT, OLD AGREEMENT and not written to the Church to follow. Alfa Seltzer: Zechariah 13:3Another OLD AGREEMENT scriptures. The Church of Jesus doesn't follow the Old Covenant but the NEW! Alfa Seltzer: In the light of these injunctions by God Almighty, what is Obadiah777 still doing alive?The same God Almighty that gave those words to Israel also said the below to the new covenant believers: New Living Translation (©2007) When God speaks of a "new" covenant, it means he has made the first one obsolete. It is now out of date and will soon disappear. Hebrews 8:13 Also, find your way here: New Living Translation (©2007) That first covenant between God and Israel had regulations for worship and a place of worship here on earth. Hebrews 9:1 Now, this is where we are: New Living Translation (©2007) He has enabled (MADE US ALIVE) us to be ministers of his new covenant. This is a covenant not of written laws, but of the Spirit. The old written covenant ends in death; but under the new covenant, the Spirit gives life. 2 Corinthians 3:6 |
DrummaBoy:Just a confirmation to the above ^ , these men of God and some not mentioned above are favourites in my library. However, I still do not just take their teachings for what is taught, I dig deeper to fully understand. John MacArthur of Grace Community Church is most radical of them all in this present times. |
obadiah777: OK NOW I GOT TIME TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION COMPREHENSIVELY. SO WHAT IT IS YOU ARE THINKING IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING. LETS START WITH VERSE 35Here I come! You should have started your explanation from verse 26 of Acts chapter 8 and therein I start from: 26And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. 27And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, 28Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. 29Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. 30And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? 31And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. 32The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: 33In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. 34And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. So what do we have here? An eunuch reading from the book of prophet Isaiah and doesn't know\understand the prophetic meaning of the SCRIPTURES he was reading; asking Phillip if that prophet Isaiah was talking about himself or someone else. Phillip then explained the prophetic scriptures that it was talking about Jesus, verse 34-35 using the same SCRIPTURES THE EUNUCH WAS READING. obadiah777: 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? AND AS THEY WENT FURTHER INTO SCRIPTURES THEY CAME UPON A CERTAIN SCRIPTURE, AND THE EUNUCH SAID 'SEE THIS SCRIPTURE HERE, WHAT PREVENTS ME FROM UNDERSTANDING IT ?'When did "as they went on their way" became "as they went further into scriptures"? Do you have scriptures that parallels or converts "as they went their way" INTO "as they went further into scriptures"? When the eunuch was reading scriptures, THE BIBLE MADE IT CLEAR NOT SPEAKING IN TONGUES THAT HE WAS READING SCRIPTURES FROM THE BOOK OF ISAIAH THE PROPHET and as they went there way...that is, going further in their journey, they came unto a certain water no longer scriptures because scriptures had ALREADY BEING EXPLAINED TO THE EUNUCH ABOUT JESUS, THE SAME SCRIPTURES HE WAS READING (verse 35) and he, the eunuch now believes according to verse 37, waiting to be baptized and engrafted into the BODY OF CHRIST TO BE ONE OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST OF CHRIST. He didn't say "look,there's a certain SCRIPTURES" BUT A CERTAIN WATER. Scriptures means scriptures and water means water unless the context says otherwise! obadiah777: 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. AND PHILIP TOLD HIM IF HE BELIEVED IN JESUS WITH ALL HIS HEART, HE WOULD UNDERSTAND AND BE ABLE TO INTERPRET SCRIPTURES. AND HE SAID, I BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD'Where in that scriptures did Phillip told him IF HE BELIEVED IN JESUS WITH ALL HIS HEART, HE WOULD UNDERSTAND AND BE ABLE TO INTERPRET SCRIPTURES.? Where? Show me\us. He simple said if you believe. The context had already said he preach Jesus to him and now is time to believe what was preached to him about Jesus NOT BELIEVE SO THAT HE WOULD BE ABLE TO INTERPRET SCRIPTURES. What is the believe meant for in water baptism AS THEY SAW WATER AND WANTED TO BAPTIZE THE EUNUCH? Jesus Himself laid this foundation for the Apostles: Mark 16:15-16, BELIEVE AND BE BAPTIZED! What is the believe based on? Preaching of Christ! And that was exactly what Phillip did, he preached Christ to the man (verse 35) and the man believed (verse 37) and now, that they saw water, he believes nothing should stop him from being baptized. Further references: Acts 10:43; Acts 8:12 obadiah777: 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. AND THE EUNUCH STOPPED HIS CARRIAGE. AND THEY BOTH WENT DEEP INTO THE SCRIPTURES AND PHILIP TAUGHT HIM SO MANY SCRIPTURES.You make a rubbish of yourself when you try to bastardize scriptures! Since you interpreted verse 36 and 37 that they went into the scriptures and the eunuch said what stops him from understanding the scriptures and Phillip said only if he believes, the eunuch can interpret scriptures THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE ALSO TOLD US HOW THEY STOPPED THE CHARIOT IN THE SCRIPTURE YOU SAID THE EUNUCH WOULD BE ABLE TO INTERPRET WAS MADE TO STAND STILL OR STOPPED OR YOU TELL US HOW THE CHARIOT WAS STOPPED OR MADE TO STAND STILL WHEN THEY BOTH WENT DEEP INTO THE SCRIPTURES AS PHILIP TAUGHT HIM SO MANY SCRIPTURES. because the verse says, "he commanded the chariot to stand still". Why would the chariot be commanded to stand still if they were not in a journey according to verse 36, "as they went their ways"? So tell us what chariot was made to stand still IN THE SCRIPTURES YOU SAID WAS BEING TAUGHT DEEPER TO THE EUNUCH. obadiah777: 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. AND WHEN THEY FINISHED THE LESSONS, THE SPIRIT MOVED PHILIP TO GO TO ANOTHER CITY TO GO PREACH TO OTHER PEOPLE AND THE EUNUCH SAW HIM NO MORE AFTER THAT AND HE WENT ON HIS WAY HAPPY THAT HE HAD RECIEVED PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCRIPTURES FROM PHILIPDid it say when they FINISHED THE LESSON? What lesson? When did lesson = water or when did coming out of water = coming out of lesson? The scriptures parallels baptism with water and it says, they both WENT INTO THE WATER since the eunuch believes and said what stops him from being baptized? Baptism is an act of being buried with Christ and dying to the old nature in burial and the rising with Christ unto new life. Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Romans 6:3-4 The Spirit of the Lord that caught away Philip is a manifestation of SIGNS and WONDERS that follows to confirm the message of his servants...God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will? Hebrews 2:4. Since you said they were digging deep into the scriptures and not literal water for baptism, why would the Spirit take one and leave the other since they both NOW UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES YOU SAID THEY WERE LEARNING? |
MostHigh: The One you hail as your master Yashua ibn joseph was a true Judaizer as scripture confirmsKing James Bible Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 2 Corinthians 5:16 |
MostHigh: Stone in this context would be doctrine.Shut up! Everything you and Obadiah777 want to call and interpret as doctrine. You both are making a mess of the word of God. Obadiah777 just said on the other thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/1357800/confusing-scripture-broken-down-thread obadiah777: BAPTIZED IS NOT WHAT YOU NIGERIANS THINK IT IS AND WATER IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS. WATER MEANS DOCTRINE. BAPTIZED MEANS BEING TAUGHT ESOTERIC KNOWLEDGEHow many things will mean the same thing for you guys without showing corresponding scriptures that parallels with your interpretations? You guys are just bastardizing the holy scriptures and making a rubbish of the word of God. Now, show me\us from scriptures where STONE = DOCTRINE. |
Waiting for Olaadegbu and his offspring, Bidam and perhaps, other Judaizers will come also. |
obadiah777: I SUPPOSE YOU GOTTA RENDER UNTO BLOOMBERG WHAT IS BLOOMBERGS AND UNTO THE LORD WHAT IS THE LORDSYes you right on this one, that's the reason I said I will deal with you after work. 1 he 30 minutes more to get off for the day. |
DrummaBoy: Well, so as not to derail Goshen's thread and turn it into another tithe waring thread, I have opened a new thread to answer you both and you will do well to refer there (or forever remain silent on the matter):Bidam is the offspring of Olaadegbu. They will either not honor the thread or can't answer to scrutiny. Let's wait and see! |
obadiah777: YOU AINT DEALING WITH NOTHING. IT DONT TAKE THAT LONG TO TYPE OUT YOUR RESPONSE. 2 MINUTES MAX.I'm at work mehn. Believe me, I will deal with you in 3 hours from now. |
I will deal with your post in few hours. |
ATMC: Acaseriously? Obadiah you are 'most high'?Yes he is. Haven't you noticed something? |
ATMC: Guess who is here! Goshen360 degrees! Welcome back! I LOVE YOU AND I MISSEDDDD YOU BIG TIME! ok obadiah, you're high again? Huh? Are you telling me also dt jesus was baptised into some esoteric knowledge by john?Missed you too my dear sister. How you dey? |
MostHigh: And truly only 144 thousand males will understand this wordWe all know you will always come out to support your #2 I.D even if he makes heretic statements and you just proved that. I will deal with both of you to the end of this thread. |
obadiah777: BAPTIZED IS NOT WHAT YOU NIGERIANS THINK IT IS AND WATER IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS. WATER MEANS DOCTRINE. BAPTIZED MEANS BEING TAUGHT ESOTERIC KNOWLEDGEDo you have scriptures to show that water = doctrine and baptize = being taught knowledge? |
frosbel: Goshen, you and I know , Ola is spiritually bankrupt, he needs some humility, diligence and study, at least for 6 months. Gbagaun! But the sad thing is, if it's not coming from his infallible PhD and the likes, he thinks others are teaching false teaching. Okay, him and his infallible PhDs should answer some scrutiny, he cannot but will call us pigs and then run away. You see them? |
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