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Habinger: This is my contribution: The word “Gospel” means “good news”, it is the amazing news of God's eternal plan of salvation for all of humanity through the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ the Messiah. (Romans10:8-10)

SUBDIVISIONS OF THE GOSPEL MESSAGE

There are four main different aspects of the gospel but all are the same good news about Jesus Christ and the way for our total redemption; this should not confuse us, Paul the apostle made mention of the milk and strong meat in the bible, differentiating between the gospel message made for babies in Christ and for the mature people. (Hebrews5:12-14).We must acknowledge the fact gospel have subdivisions, there is basic teachings of Christ for the infants and higher revelation of Christ for the adults and the fathers in Christ…

1.The gospel of the grace of God

But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God (Act20:24).

The good news of the grace of God is that Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law being made a curse for us, for it is written, cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith (Galatians3:13-14).

2.The glorious gospel of Christ

But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them (2Corinthians4:3-4).

The glorious good news is about the perfection of the believers in Christ after our justification, sanctification follows, and now we (the church) are going through the process of internal purification unto glorification(Colosians1:27-28).

3.The gospel of the kingdom
 
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come (Matthew 24:14).

The good news of the kingdom is the message about the soon coming Messiah’s kingdom on earth (Luke1:32-33). In Mathew 24:14, the kingdom gospel is to be preached in the entire world for a witness unto all nations. “A witness” signifies that it is to be preached by power; the total manifestation of Christ’s lifestyle (1 Corinthians 4:20). All nations have to see Jesus Christ walking physically again on this earth through the church, which is His body, after that Christ will appear in the sky, coming to set up His kingdom.  Jesus Christ is coming back for a glorious sinless church that has no spot or wrinkle. The creatures are now waiting to hear the gospel of the kingdom, and then the end will come.

4.The Everlasting gospel

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters (Revelation14:6).

The everlasting gospel is the final hour message, the immeasurable revelation of immortality of the saints in Christ and the final judgment of the ungodly people. After the kingdom age, the church will finally be translated to immortality to reign in the new paradise that Lord has prepared for us even before the world began. (1Cor,15: 50-56)

It is significant for the preachers of the gospel to preach the total gospel; the whole counsel of God, just as Paul the apostle declared to the elders of the church in Ephesus…For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God (Act20:17-27.) There are some ministers who have chosen to stick to one particular message instead of sharing the total counsel of God, such people will never bring believers into complete maturity in Christ, because for as not eating properly will cause malnutrition, so it is in the things of the spirit. Hearing the same sermon, every Sunday in church causes lack of spiritual maturity. It takes revelation not religious doctrines and dogmas to bring people unto the complete knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.

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Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

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Goshen360: This is the TRUE GOSPEL OF CHRIST. This is the gospel that Jesus preached from the beginning.

Math 4:17
From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

This is the gospel that Paul proclaims throughout his ministry.

Rom 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

This is the gospel that Peter preached on the day of Pentecost.

Acts 2:22-24
Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know. Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

This is the gospel that Paul says is the power of God

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.  

This is the gospel that is not being preached by the church today. Instead the church has substituted a false gospel, a powerless gospel that is really no gospel at all.

Gal 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

The so called gospel that is preached today is the “ask Jesus into your heart” gospel.  It is the gospel that says ‘Jesus loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life’ It is the gospel of the so called sinners prayer which is found nowhere in scripture. The gospel of give and get. Yes, Jesus loves us but doesn't love our sins and worldliness and dead word. He doesn't love our rebellion against God. He is jealous we taking side with the devil and the worldly practices. We must seek the kingdom of God first which starts with repentance from our sins and dead works and ALL other things will follow.

May the Spirit of God convict us of our shortcomings as we read this article.

Ihedinobi: That salvation is a done deal for the believer

That's JUSTIFICATION

Ihedinobi: . . . as well as an ongoing process

That's SANCTIFICATION

Ihedinobi: . . . and a future occurence.

That's GLORIFICATION.

Bidam: yeah indeed we have life in Christ..but don't go cherry picking scriptures..Both the OT and NT are complete.without the old there won't be a new..see it in that light..even Moses was a type of CHRIST

Bidam, you and I are cool if we interpret scriptures rightly. I HAVE NEVER SAID I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE OLD. What I'm simply saying is Christian people are under a better covenant and rather than folks trying to understand and live their better covenant, they're binding themselves with the covenant that is DONE AWAY WITH. My message is simple!

We all sin everyday not necessarily like adultery, lying, fornication, murdering etc. Doubt is also a sin. Let's not stretch these sin issue too much. Even in our conversation on this forum, many of us sin in words. So, what are we saying?

Obadiah777,

You see, the problem with these religious people is that, they will NEVER take time to FIRST UNDERSTAND what another person is saying before they start talking. That's why they can't argue reasonably-one needs to FIRST UNDERSTAND the opposite side before you can argue for or against the topic.

Okay, lemme get into the word and I will be back for discussion. Don't worry if we end up to disagree, we're still one in Christ. I will be back later to fellowship and chew meat, leave those people to continue drinking milk.

@ mintayo,

Have you heard of "second class hatred"? That's what you and other Christians do on this forum. You didn't read what Goshen said about fornication by YOURSELF but what SOMEONE ELSE reported to you and you took those words and began to work on it, second class information; just like some Christians don't feed directly by themselves in the word, but whatever their medium (pastors) tell them. Lord help y'all religious people.

Paschal007: I love nairaland's religion section.

Goshen360: Sex between 2 unmarried adults (fornication) is not sin.

Obadiah Fasting has nothing to do with abstinence from food.

Religion is killing you! If you like take my words out of context and go having se.x with every single woman. God is your judge, that's not what I said. Those who understood the context of my words knows what I meant.

We will not allow the haters of grace and the grace gospel force their legalism on us.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 2 Corinthians 3:7

The 10 commandments and law of Moses keepers, what say ye all? The same moral laws, 10 commandment that some folks here are hard die to is the same what scriptures called ministry of death and says it is done away or brought to an end. In Christ, I have life, not death. John 10:10.

@ christemmbassey,

I will return later to answer your question and expand on it, maybe tomorrow. We need to get this Gospel of Grace. The gospel is the cure to every human shortcomings.

shdemidemi: I believe a Christian can commit adultery and even more.

Yes a Christian can continue in it and yet He is still safe

That is the height of grace


2 Corinthians 5:21
King James Version (KJV)
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Okay bro. I do not intend to go further into this discussion. You and I agree on the #1, I also believe a Christian can commit adultery. Case study, the Corinthian Christians, at least from scriptures. #2, I don't agree that a Christians can continue or should continue to make practice of adultery. That's my stance. The reason is, Romans 6:1-2. We cannot CONTINUE...that grace may abound. I believe that is abuse of Grace.

christemmbassey: sin is the transgression of the law, how can a christian who has been given no law commit sin? Sorry i dont commit sin, i am righteous and the life i live in my body, i live by faith of Jesus.

No sir, sin is not only transgression of the law. Every unrighteousness is a sin 1 John 5:17. He that knows what to do and does not do it....perhaps good things; it is to such a sin. James 4:17. Whatsoever is not of faith is sin, Romans 14:23.

Oya, grab your copy now!

^ Let's put it in practical. I think that will help us understand better. Let's start with this,

1. Do you think or believe a Christian can commit say, for instance adultery? So this sin of adultery is taking as a sample for other sins, we just use adultery as an example among many sins.

If you think or believe a Christian can commit adultery, then the #2 follows. If not, then state your stance.

2. If you think a Christian can commit adultery, do you think a Christian can continuing to practice adultery?

This man, where you go run enter since all these day? I don miss you like body dey miss water. Okay, that mother church heh, it means, I open a church meanwhile, the bible calls me myself the church. But I open a church and sit at the headquarters and open many branches and tell all the branches to remit all tithes and seed offerings to the mother church, the headquarters that gave birth to all the branches. Can you see how the church is messed up?

Logicboy03: Where is the condemnation of Benny Hill?

There's no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus except for those who walk after the dictates of the flesh. You\we can point out their false or error but not condemnation bro. Two different ministry, only the law of Moses condemns sinners; Grace of God don't! But it doesn't mean we should hide them when they err. I have spoken against Benny Hinn's action here on this forum but no condemnation.

@ shdemidemi,

It's quite simple. If it doesn't mean continue to sin that grace may abound according to Romans 6:1-2; it cannot possible mean a different thing in the paraphrase of Romans 5:20. It was the extension of Romans 5:20 that led to 6:1-2 as originally written in scroll. Also, that word "continue" denotes to make a continuous practice of sin. It does not mean we might not fall into sin sometimes but we don't make a continuous practice of it.

MostHigh: is that all you can come up with?

You see how limited you are in yashua

somthing truly has a strong hold on you

What do I Think

well I know Yashua in his sermon on the mount and othe places in the book transferd the offence from the overt acts to the intension this is clearly stated.

and in no way did he abrogate any part of the law in any way

do you really expect one to turn the other cheek for you during a time of judgement

the evangelical period is over now it is judgement time.

But when you speak about paul you have so much to say against the LAW of the most high

^ ^ You mean you can't comprehend what's going on in that verse? Yet, you uphold the law so much? smh

MostHigh: Finally!!

Pls I want it in relation to the LAW.

And pls just the masters words that we may all be edified abi?

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King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Matthew 5:38-39.

In verse 38, Christ was quoting Exodus 21:24, Leviticus 24:20 & Deuteronomy 19:21.

New Living Translation (©2007)
You must show no pity for the guilty! Your rule should be life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. Deuteronomy 19:21

In verse 39, Christ laid down a new testament teaching that was carried on by his Apostles. What do you think Christ was doing to those Mosaic law of "You have heard it hath been said"?

shdemidemi: Bro Goshen,I have a concern
Now, Paul, the Apostle cannot mean or be saying in Romans 5:20 that grace can be available for sin and later be saying something different in the same context of the whole book in Romans 6:1-2. What then is he saying in Romans 5:20? Paul, the Apostle is simply saying, where (every place or any where on the planet) there is opportunity to sin or where sin is growing, there is where where God's grace, ability to live beyond sin is much more available. Lemme put it well in my word study way,

How did you come to the 'bolded' conclusion,If you don't mind please shed more light on the bolded.
Alternatively,You can send me a mail so we can chat there. shedemidemi@icloud.com

It's very simple my brother. Besides, I sent you one of my online study material - study bible and one other material, in your email.

Now, concerning the above, all you have to do is understand Grace means more than one thing as discussed. It is the all-inclusive Christ, given to us to work out or live it out. That is what makes us Christ-like.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
. . . But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: Romans 5:20

Some translations have is as "where sin INCREASED", some says "where people sin MORE and MORE". So, looking at our present state or society, people are sinning more and more or sin have increased in this present days and age, grace did much more abound....you have to get what that grace means in that context and then apply it back into the context and then re-read it. I got it or came to that conclusion from word meaning or the all-inclusiveness of God's grace that is wrapped up in Christ.

First, here is Romans 5:20 opened for word meanings: http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=5&v=20&t=KJV#conc/20

2. The TEXT opened here: http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=5&v=20&t=KJV#conc/20

3. The meaning (aspects\features) of Grace presented here: http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5485&t=KJV

Romans 6:1-2 already clear up Romans 5:20 in that Romans 6:1-2 says we cannot continue to sin that same grace may abound while Romans 5:20 says where sin abound, grace abound much more. So, he cannot be saying we can go on continue sinning thinking that we have much more abounding grace to cover up our sin. He is simply saying, where (any where) there's opportunity to sin or where sin is increasing or as people sin more and more, that is where grace (God's divine power) to exercise power above sin abound much more.

So, lemme do the word study again, inserting the #2a meaning into the text of Romans 5:20,

. . . But where sin abounded, grace [God's divine power (#3a) by which God, exerting his holy influence upon souls, turns them to Christ, keeps, strengthens, increases them in Christian faith, knowledge, affection, and kindles them to the exercise of the Christian virtues] did much more abound: Romans 5:20

Is it clear now?

^ Do you want it in relation to this teachings or just picking something Christ taught and the same established in the New Testament, taught and carried on by the Apostles? Which one you want?

Ihedinobi: Goshen, I would have quoted all the Scriptures that you referenced here, but it's too tasking for me to do so, so I won't. But we both know what they said.

Now when we say that something represents something else, we mean that the latter can be replaced by the former. Can Christ's body replace sin or the law or any of the other things you mentioned in any context? I don't think that we can reasonably say that it can.

That He bore our sins in His body is that His body served as a vessel or container or transport for our sins not that His body is our sin. I hope you understand.

Hmmmm, ^ well, I can't laugh that much. You know as much as I do that "simile" is different from "metaphor" right? You're still looking at the 'body' of Christ as mere flesh like we do have as human. Yes, it is but it represent many things, just that one 'flesh' or 'body'. Look at it here,

New Living Translation (©2007)
That is why, when Christ came into the world, he said to God, "You did not want animal sacrifices or sin offerings. But you have given me a body to offer. Hebrews 10:5

Here, that body is SACRIFICE AND\OR SIN. Hence, he who knew no sin BECAME sin.

Ihedinobi: That by His death, He cancelled the law's enmity against us is not that His body is the law that we died to but that the death of His body is the means by which we were set free from the law.

Oh, so now you agree that His body is the means by which we are set free from the law? Why then do you still teach adherence to the law to Christians if you believe they are set free from it by the body of Christ? Again, Romans 7:4 says, "...that you might belong to another..." which is not the same as the one that died to the law in order to fulfill the law. You need to digest that verse very well. That's like the analogy of baptism by immersion. The old man is buried and another man rises up when we are raised with Christ.

Ihedinobi: And so on and so forth. There is only one thing which the Scriptures consider the same as the body of Christ and it is the Church. Whenever Christ's body is mentioned in the Scriptures, what is said of it is applicable to believers of every era and place.

NO! You're wrong. The communion is also the 'body' of Christ represented in spiritual things, Luke 22:19.

New International Version (©2011)
And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."

Just like the church is not the physical body of Christ but typified spiritually and Him, Christ being the Head. So, just like the church is represent in the body of Christ, the same is the communion, also sin which we also die to, same is sacrifices offered by his body and same is the law, we can't keep it, the whole so he did on our behalf. What is left for us is to lean on that His finished works and be righteous by that, not by trying to do what he had already done.

Logicboy03: Goshen's signature;

"Our lives BEGINS to END the day we keep silent about things that matter"


I am waiting for Goshen and his followers to condemn this fraud.

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I'm not a tithe teachers neither do I teach tithe as part of my ministry. The just shall live by faith...in the finished work of Christ & him crucified. I'm not also a seed faith teacher, the only seed I sow and teach people is the word of God, when sowed, it works!

Zikkyy: Pastor Goshen, all this ya teachings dey result in too much arguments, e be like boys (& girls) no dey in the mood for this ya kind of teachings o! people get too much issues to sort out. you see the way the prosperity loving crew dey attack you left right and center e be like you go change strategy and dish out some nice teachings on prosperity maybe you fit even receive some cheque via postal mail to keep the ministry going am just advising as your able treasurer. inflows have not been encouraging o!

We're not of them that peddles the word for profit. Treasurer, open your mouth and the Living God shall fill it. We preach Christ and his finished works, (him crucified); we offend the Judaizers and to the prosperity Gentiles, it's all foolishness.

MostHigh: 23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and PASTORS, you hypocrites! You are collecting tithes. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should not have practiced the latter, and neglected the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel

can you please explain the word law and justice above in the right context

pls pls pls no quotations from paul

try and use the masters words more often.

I need to teach you that what Paul taught is what Christ taught as foundation.....to the New testament that will take effect after his death. If you can't understand this simple truth, then I cannot help. But, if you're ready, I will show you step by step, from words of Christ, that what Paul taught is what Christ taught. Are you ready?

The gospel is Christ himself, his teachings (Mark 1:1) and the all-inclusive Grace of God wrapped up in Christ, Acts 20:24. That is the gospel. It is the gospel of the manifold Grace of God made known to men. If any man or angel preach any other gospel, such should be accused. Galatians 1:8. So when Christ said, "Go into the world and preach the gospel...". What he's saying is, "go and preach ME (Christ) + my finished works" to the world and hence, we preach CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED. To some, it is an offense and to others, it is foolishness. 1 Corinthians 1:23. We can further continue to unfold\explore the gospel of Christ.

So what do we have here? Taking Nigeria as an example, but it applies to any where in the world, where sin abound; we see in the society, sin abound in Nigeria. How do I mean, every where is opportunity to sin, steal, loot money from government treasury, single ladies sleeping with married men for money because they have to live, younger boys sleeping with cougars for living, corruption everywhere, killing for rituals and\or for money, cultism, etc. All these are where sin abound but Grace had been put in the inside of Christians, kindling them to exercise Christian virtues. Christians have much more on the inside to combat these acts, many just don't yield to it or activate it when needed. That's why scriptures says, "greater is HE that is in us, than he that is in the world"....and what is it that is in the world? The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - 1 John 2:16.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we can't continue to live in sin that or thinking Grace covers us, Romans 6:1-2 but rather we are blessed with the gift and Gospel of Grace to overcome sin and the world. This Grace gospel was foreshadowed in the time of Noah and God later introduced the law of Moses to show men that they need a Saviour, Grace of God, Christ of God.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. Genesis 6:8

This is before the law of Moses. The dispensation of Noah was so corrupt that he and his family was saved. Why? Because he found grace. Grace is the Saviour and that is the foreshadow of Christ. God later introduced the law to show men that, their works (obeying the law of Moses and making sacrifices for sin) cannot save them but Christ, which is the Grace of God. This is the whole gospel of Grace! The finished works of Christ and our eyes fixed on that, leaning on what he had done.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Why, then, was the law given? It was given alongside the promise to show people their sins. But the law was designed to last only until the coming of the child who was promised. God gave his law through angels to Moses, who was the mediator between God and the people. Galatians 3:19

New Living Translation (©2007)
God's law was given so that all people could see how sinful they were. But as people sinned more and more, God's wonderful grace became more abundant. Romans 5:20

God's purpose from the beginning is the Grace gospel which was foreshadowed from the time of Noah. The period of the law of Moses was later added or given to men can see how sinful they were and show people their sins, so that they can know they need a Saviour (Grace) of God. This law of Moses does not justifies but reveals the sin in us. Now, that Grace have saved us, how do we then continue to live by the law of Moses? There're many who preach or teach another gospel other than the gospel of Grace. That is, they teach the gospel of the law, of works mixed with Grace and Paul, the Apostle says, let them be curse or even of they be angels from heaven, Galatians 1:8 and Acts 20:24 tells us that the gospel they preached was the gospel of grace of God. Ladies and Gentlemen, the gospel of Grace is void of mixtures with the works of the law. Obedience to the works of the law is not part of the gospel of Grace because by keeping the law of Moses shall no man be justified. Why? It takes our eyes and faith away from the finished works of Christ, Grace of God and builds up the human efforts.

We have been called and free from the law of Moses but not to continue or use our freedom for\to satisfy your sinful nature. Galatians 5:13. The whole world is corrupt right now but the Grace is much more available within us to conquer. That's the gift of God, we only need to lean on this power, exercise it and live it out for us to be Christ-like in our daily living. It is not Christ-like when we are only Christians on Sundays and act UN-Christ-like other days. There's must be an evident of this gift of Grace manifesting in us. You can't be sleeping with another man's wife or husband and say the Grace covers you, NO!, that is abuse of the gift of Grace within you. You can be stealing, lying, taking bribe, cheating, mastur.bating, hating, etc and claim to exercise the grace of God because when Christ died by his body on the Christ, we also became dead to sin, how then shall we continue to live in sin anymore?

Today, there's an opportunity to receive the Grace of God, for those who have not receive this gift (Christ). When Christ comes into you, it convicts you of your old sinful lives, it courses you to repent and deposit in you the empowerment to live the Christian virtue where sin abound. Receive the Grace of the Living today and everything shall follow well for you. Thank you, you're bless!

concluding part of the teaching - a must read, 'might' be a bit lengthy though.

What then is this Gospel of Grace and what is it not?

We have studied that Grace (and truth) came by Jesus Christ unlike the law of Moses, that was given to for the children of Israel. John 1:17. We have also studied what Grace is, that is, it is Christ PERSONIFIED & EMBODIMENT, the ALL-INCLUSIVENESS OF CHRIST as a gift of God. That is, what and everything a man who accepts Christ needs, is wrapped up in Christ and when one receives this gift, he\she received the Grace of God, the "all-inclusiveness" and nothing more needed for upgraded even though the one that received this gift can always access the various features or aspects of this one all-inclusiveness gift (Grace) of God, that is, grow in the Grace.

Therefore, the gospel of Grace is the gospel of Christ himself because he, Christ first came with this Grace and no other message or gospel can he preach or deliver to his Apostles. The gospel of Grace is the message (the word) that focuses on the finished and completed works of Christ and not on our own works. It is the message that seeks to not to be blessed by our works or righteousness but says we are already blessed because Christ in us, is the hope of glory and is our righteousness and we are blessed because of what he had done. It is the message of Christ that lives in us by His Spirit and we, as Christians live Him (Christ) out in our daily living, that is, the gift of Grace flows from within us towards mankind. It is the message that believers have everything (already given to and put on the inside of them) that pertains to life and godliness, only live it out including the power to live beyond or above sin because the one who is in us was dead to sin, so also we are also dead to sin.

Many Christians do not understand Grace and the Grace gospel. To some, it is an offense when we teach\preach Grace thinking we give people license to sin. To others, they MIS-understood it and take it as a license to sin, quoting scriptural text out of context. Neither of the above is true! Grace as we have studied is more than unmerited favour of God. It is the divine power of God (already given to us that resides in us when we received Christ, as God's gift. Ephesians 3:20) by which God, exerting his holy influence upon souls, turns them to Christ, keeps, strengthens, increases them in Christian faith, knowledge, affection, and kindles them to the exercise of the Christian virtues.

New International Version (©2011)
Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, Ephesians 3:20

When was the power put within us? It is in the all-inclusiveness of the gift of Grace; the all-inclusive Christ. Now, we can allow the Spirit of God to minister to us on various aspect of Grace gospel but I have given the points, I may not cover all aspect except for other times. One of the things I will like to deal with is the subject of Grace and sinning. Does Grace means we have license to sin? Or does Grace give us license to sin? or does Grace means we can continue to make practice of sin? The answer is NO! It is not Grace that gives us license to sin neither is it the Grace gospel that gives people license to sin, people sin everyday, knowingly or unknowingly; deliberately or undeliberately.

Now, we must understand people will continue to sin, knowingly or unknowingly; deliberately or undeliberately but when the opportunity to sin comes, that is where Grace comes to work, from within us. Why do I need to eat when I'm not hungry? Sin does not necessarily mean the big issues we hear about in our societies such as homo.se.xual; lesbianism; adultery; gay; etc somebody might not do any of these but might be a liar, full of hatred which is also equal to murderer by the New Testament; envy, jealousy, lust etc....these are all internal sins which are not open to public acts but are still sin. So, because someone don't commit the big ones doesn't mean he\she doesn't commit any of the internal ones.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: Romans 5:20

Those who abuse grace and take it as license for sin use this scriptures that where there is sin, grace is available much more. Ladies & Gentlemen, that is not what this scripture says. The context itself says otherwise. The whole book of Romans is in proper context,

New Living Translation (©2007)
Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it? Romans 6:1-2

Now, Paul, the Apostle cannot mean or be saying in Romans 5:20 that grace can be available for sin and later be saying something different in the same context of the whole book in Romans 6:1-2. What then is he saying in Romans 5:20? Paul, the Apostle is simply saying, where (every place or any where on the planet) there is opportunity to sin or where sin is growing, there is where where God's grace, ability to live beyond sin is much more available. Lemme put it well in my word study way,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, divine power of God (already given to us that resides in us when we received Christ, as God's gift. Ephesians 3:20) by which God, exerting his holy influence upon souls, turns them to Christ, keeps, strengthens, increases them in Christian faith, knowledge, affection, and kindles them to the exercise of the Christian virtues did much more abound: Romans 5:20

Candour: replied you already bro Goshen

I didn't get the reply o; maybe it will surface by the time I wake up. Try it direct if you can, send to: (write my full I.d here, all in lower case)@yahoo.co.uk. That will work. I will complete this teaching when I wake up. Thanks.

@ bro. Ola,

That was so powerful! It's gonna be part of my concluding post. I love that. God bless you.

^ Email already sent bro. Check your email and lemme drop you the bombshell. And you too, bro. shdemidemi.

manmustwac: Well i have just hidden what i perceive to be offensive in the mentioned thread and please stop derailing His MostHighness because i don't want to have to ban you.

So Mod sef got jokes sha. See me see something o. Thanks anyway.