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Context is the key to understanding through the holy spirit

@ DrummerBoy,

Keep the good work, I ENDORSE it any day, anytime according to the Grace given unto me.

Under the Old covenant, solution to stop sinning is obeying and following the law. Under the new covenant, Paul, the Apostle by the revelation of Christ gives us the solution in Galatians 5:16-25. He writes, if we walk in the Spirit we won’t sin - that's our power for an overcoming life. In verse 18, we are not under the law - he gave himself in the new covenant instead of rules. The law does not correct behavior it only shows our behavior, it is the Spirit that has the power for the new life. In verse 24, we crucify the flesh. It is by obeying the Spirit's directives in the New Covenant. By walking in the Spirit which is a habitual behavior trains one for a new manner of life, it diminishes the carnal desires that make one sin. We will not walk contrary to the law but will fulfill its requirements not by concentrating on the law but on Christ.

The intention of the fruit of the Spirit is to constrain the believer to a life in which the natural tendencies shall have no place, and to produce in him their direct contraries of what the law could not do in its weakness. Law, therefore, has nothing to say against the fruit of the Spirit; hence the believer is not only not under law; the law finds no scope in his life, inasmuch as, and in so far as, he is led by the Spirit

In the past ·sin controlled you [you were slaves to sin]. But thank God, you ·fully obeyed [obeyed from the heart] the ·things [accepted/orthodox teaching; example/pattern of teaching] ·that you were taught [or that have claimed your allegiance; to which you were delivered/entrusted]. 18 You were set free from sin, and now you are slaves to ·goodness [righteousness].

Finally, sin shall not have dominion over you because you are not under THE LAW because THE LAW is the POWER and STRENGTH of sin.

[For] Sin will not ·be your master [exercise dominion/power over you], because you are not under law but under God’s grace. Romans 6:14, Expanded Bible (EXB)

The only reason you keeping sinning is because you still subjecting yourself to the law rather than subjecting yourself to the power of the Holy Spirit through the Grace of Christ.

Grace be multiplied unto you!!!

The law [of Moses] could not make anything perfect. But now a better hope has been given to us, and ·with [by means of; through] this hope we can ·come near to [approach] God. Hebrews 7:19; Expanded Bible (EXB)

The law, the 10 Commandments inclusive require no life of prayer, no Christian service, no evangelism, no missionary effort, no gospel preaching, no life and walk in the Spirit, no Fatherhood of God, no union with Christ, no fellowship of saints, no hope of salvation, and no hope of heaven. If it is asserted that we have all these because we have both the law and grace, it is replied that the law adds nothing to grace but confusion and contradiction, and that there is the most faithful warning in the Scriptures against this admixture. A few times the teachings of the law are referred to by the writers of the Epistles by way of illustration. Having stated the obligation under grace, they cite the fact that this same obtained under the law. There is, however, no basis here for a commingling of these two governing systems. The law of Moses presents a covenant of works to be wrought in the energy of the flesh; the teachings of grace present a covenant of faith to be wrought in the energy of the Spirit.

God's method to stop sinning is the opposite of what many believes and practice, it is not by keeping or obeying the law; it is through Christ, His Grace and the Holy Spirit in us.

Death’s ·power to hurt [sting] is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57 But we thank God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:56-57; Expanded Bible (EXB)

King James Bible
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. Romans 8:1-5

King James Bible
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. Romans 8:13

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The law came ·to make sin worse [or to reveal the true extent of sin; to increase the violation/transgression]. But when sin ·grew worse [increased; multiplied], God’s grace ·increased [multiplied/abounded all the more]. Romans 5:20, Expanded Bible (EXB)

Many thinks following more of the law rather than becoming more like Christ will solve human problems. Scripture makes it clear that the law make sin WORSE. The law did not stop sin but only pointed it out and it increased it. Knowing Christ and becoming more like Christ is the cure, not the law. Becoming more like Christ is having the very Grace to go and sin no more.

Faults are found with believers; believers sin, but we are not sinners because the death, burial and resurrection of Christ have given us a positional change as well as a nature change - 1 Corinthians 15:17. We are saints and righteousness of God in Christ Jesus and the law is not made for the righteous - 1 Timothy 1:9. Is Christ therefore a minister of sin? No!!! He administrates holiness by his Spirit through Grace. When we yield to his Lordship we are fulfilling his commands and not yielding to the flesh. We are no longer relating to God in a "legal\law" relationship but in a "loving" relationship. Our position changes From law to Grace.

Using the law to stop sinning is self defeating it only shows you your sin. Its like trying to wash your face with a mirror. The only way you get victory over the sin is not by concentrating on the sin or obeying the law, its by an overall relationship with Christ and applying his death and resurrection power. By focusing on him , following him, yielding to him we have power over sin. When you walk in the Spirit you won’t fulfill the desires of the flesh because the law has nothing against the fruit of the Spirit - Galatians 5:22-23. This is Gods solution!!!.

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Death’s ·power to hurt [sting] is sin, and the power of sin is the law. - 1 Corinthians 15:56, Expanded Bible (EXB)

Many Christians are trying to stop a sinful life by keeping and observing the 'thou shall not' not realizing that Christ is the CURE for a sinful lifestyle. The more Christ is formed in us, and we becoming more like Christ, the more our light shine to the world in this dark age and time; our sinful lifestyle dies under the image of Christ by His Grace. Unknowing to many Christians, you're are actually adding fuel to sin by keeping the law of 'thou shall not' because the law is the strength and power of sin or sinful nature in a man. That's why Paul, the Apostle explained that, when you take away the law, you have solved the problem of sin because when there's no law (strength & power of sin) to break or transgress, there's no sin committed.

Because the law can only bring God’s anger [wrath]. But if there is no law, there is ·nothing to disobey [no transgression/violation; the law points out sin, but it cannot save from sin] - Romans 4:15, Expanded Bible (EXB)

We already have a sinful nature that we carry - the flesh and rather than crucify this flesh, many are trying to feed the flesh with the law, they are trying to give power and strengthen this sinful nature. You cannot stop sinning by keeping the law but by becoming more like Christ in his image and likeness. You have borne the image of the first man, Adam, by which and through which you BECAME a sinner; now you need to bear the image of the Son of God through and by which you BECOME righteous - That's the cure to sin because this Son of God had been made "sin" for you. The more you keep trying to keep the law as an instrument to stop sinning, the more you get God's wrath and anger when such laws are broken. Romans 4:15.

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^ E be like say you don go do serious study as I have been saying Anyway, good to have you on the Apostolic side of the this gospel.

^ Egbon mi, bobo yen o easy o tithe prayer ke? That's a new 'revelation' egbon mi....

Alwaystrue: [b[size=15pt]]No scripture in the bible is against tithing.[/size][/b]

Even after showing you scriptures, you will never agree neither will you believe. You are tied to tithe and think it's how God blesses or "open the windows of heaven".

The scripture you requested is same Hebrews 7:

Levites HAVE THE COMMANDMENTS TO RECEIVE TITHE ACCORDING TO THE LAW.

When the same levites and their office was abolished, the "COMMANDMENTS TO RECEIVE TITHE ACCORDING TI THE LAW" that goes with the priesthood was also ABOLISHED.

Therefore, if you insist or argue the tithe remains, but the priesthood of Levi abolished, you have the right to show from scriptures WHERE GOD TRANSFERED THE COMMANDMENTS TO RECEIVE OR CONTINUE TO RECEIVE TITHE" to another tribe or to the ministry gifts or to the church.

OLAADEGBU: Why are you fixated on tithes under the law? Don't you see that we are addressing tithes before the law?

Exactly what I'm driving at!!! That is, you people, tithe teachers say tithe existed BEFORE the law and turn around to quote Malachi and its curse on Christians which is of the law plus Matthew 23:23 etc. Therefore, you people using lies and hypocrisy to handle the word of truth, telling people lies tithe was before the but teaching tithe according TO THE LAW.

Please, answer the question (with bible reference) if you can.

God2man: There is an admonition from the Bible,

"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed UNDEFILED: but whoremongers and Adulterers God will judge" Hebrew 13:4

Out of context interpretation!!!

Bidam: In nature, Pythons are nonvenomous. They kill their prey by constricting it until it can no longer breathe, literally suffocating the life out of it. In the spirit realm Satan often works in the same way, slowly working his way into our lives, stealing the Anointing of the Holy Spirit – attempting to choke the very breath out of us. God wants to break the coils of the serpent off of your life. He wants you to … breathe again!

First, the life that Christ gives, is a life beyond the power of satan. It's a life exchanged and infused into believers, not a life that is by breathing to exist. This life is ZOE!

King James Bible
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

New Living Translation
But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don't need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true--it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ.

1 John 2:27

The devil and powers of darkness cannot steal the anointing we Christians have received because the anointing is the Holy Spirit himself and he 'lives' in us. How can devil steal the Holy Spirit 'living' in us? If that is possible for satan to steal the 'anointing', the Holy Spirit, then I can break it down to you that the whole bible is white wash and empty.

Bidam: What comes to mind when you hear the phrase “spiritual warfare?”
In Luke 4 Jesus meets a man possessed with a demon. The demon cries out, “Leave us alone!” Why is it dangerous to leave the Enemy alone?
The Spirit of Python comes from an encounter Paul and Silas had with a possessed woman in Acts 16. She had the “spirit of divination.” The Greek word for “divination” is translated, “python.” How can you recognize this spirit today?

The Greek translated into English as Python doesn't say it 'squeeze' believers or prayer life out of them BUT it follows the 'divination', that is, claiming to foretell future events and to discover hidden knowledge. In other words, she (the possessed girl) gets her 'inspiration and ability to tell the future' from the Python spirit. Hence, she was said to have the 'spirit of divination'.  Python being the 'serpent god, Pythian serpent or dragon' that guarded the Delphic oracle; dwelling in Pytho region. It doesn't stop prayer life or believers or squeeze life out of them BUT it was a demonic spirit used in telling future. Telling future and making money out of people is clearly different from squeezing prayer life out of people, especially believers because greater is he (the anointhing, the Holy Spirit) that is or lives within us than he (satan and\or demons) that are in the world.

Bidam: In the message, Jentezen said, “The Spirit of Python hates prayer.” Discuss ways to maintain a strong prayer life even during strong opposition

Pastor Jentezen is reading into the text. There's no scriptural ground for the ^ above statement even though I'm for prayer. If someone is going to teach prayer awakening, it's okay but don't read into Holy text. It is the Spirit of God that helps our prayer life, we don't know how and what to pray.

Bidam: “The greatest tragedy of prayerlessness is the unemployment of angels,” according to the message. Do you agree? Why? Or Why not?

I agree partial to unemployment of angel. It is the Holy Spirit that helps our weakness in prayers and our weakness in prayer is not a result of any python spirit because, it speaks of telling future nothing to do with praying or not. And our weakness comes as a result of our flesh weakness. Therefore, the Spirit or our spirit is always willing but the flesh is weak.

Discuss the ways Spirit of Python can constrict other areas of your life once it has you disconnected from prayer.

Well, personally, I cannot discuss this because I don't visit a fortune teller, that's what 'spirit of divination' means, not related to praying or disconnection from prayer. There's no other areas of my life or Christian life that Python (spirit of divination) is operating.

Bidam: CONCLUSION

Learn to breathe again! The python spirit can squeeze the joy out of your worship and prayers. It can pressure you to keep quiet when God wants you to speak up. And it can steal the peace of knowing that you belong to God. But there is a way to recognize the signs and defeat him. You don’t have to become his prey.

http://www.jentezenfranklin.org/connection-questions/spirit-python-studio/

The Zoe life is greater in the Spirit of God and no devil can tamper that life, that's the life believers have in Christ. Pastor Frank is making it look as if satan can steal this life within us. We're not prey to the devil anymore because we have being delivered from his mouth.

Finally, we must teach a Christian their rights, privileges and the finished works and let them understand their 'better' covenant rather than trying to exalt the works of the devil. We must also teach Christians their 'rich and blessed' inheritance in Christ. That's what all the finished works is all about. The devil is already defeated on our behalf. When we go into spiritual warfare, we must fight as and from the stand point of a victor (in Christ), not as one trying to win the battle. We must fight as one already with victory.

King James Bible
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

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Question for you @ Image123,

Are items recovered from war acceptable under the law as tithe?

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There no ONE Apostle that received constant, continuous and monthly 'pay' as salary but support. This support must be from the people's heart and decision as they desire it to be fit towards whatever they want to give. This to me, is even better than 'fixed', constant and continuous 'monthly' salary'. Again, ministry is not about gathering people together and making merchandise of them but a call to service and to serve.

You're in ministry to give to people and the people when taught, in return should by the knowledge of what was taught see the light of the scriptures by the Holy Spirit to extend their pocket to their teacher, NOT their teacher demanding monthly 'pay'. That's exactly what Paul was saying when he said, "don't he have the right to living"?

Many church leaders use Paul's example to justify 'pay' for gospel ministers BUT they also refuse to take the sacrificial decision of Paul when he said, he did not use this right because to advance the gospel. We cannot take one side of Paul's right and leave out his sacrifice - saying, that's his personal decision. Aren't all ministers of the gospel?

^ Even their 'pay' shouldn't be a 'fixed' and 'regular' or monthly salary. It should be a form of 'support' to them.

I never start, I dey come !!!

DrummaBoy: One thing is sure all this Pastor must live aflluently, cannot be found from the NT. It is the reason the Pastors themselves hold unto to tithes, firsfruits and prophet offering too.

I'm Goshen360 and I ENDORSE this message of the kingdom!!!

Chizi Daniels: [b][/b]"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." (Hebrews 13:4).

Case closed!

Out of context scripture!!!

Again, @ Bidam, beware and be careful of Dake's annotated. I will explain your out of context in the OP from pastor Frank. You know I live here, I heard him the very first day he preached that message on T.V and I was just shaking my head.

Again, I love Frank and most of his messages but somethings he adds traditions of men and human philosophy into the word and read into the meanings of the text and that's what he did here.

You might dislike what I will say but it doesn't matter, we reasoning the scriptures and learning one from another. I do not love any man of God to a point I cannot check or refute whatever he teaches. You have to do same, not just agree because you love him, or because he's a mentor or etc.

I will follow up later with explanation

The OP is exactly what happens when people take words out of context and read into the context to say what they want to say.

Bidam, be careful of internet article!

^ Okay bro, heaven is my witness and goshap too said it on that same thread, we are not same person.

Ministry is not an opportunity to take from people in your care, it's a privilege to serve or to service. Look at the life of our Lord, you will understand.

@ OP, there's absolutely nothing to justify homosexual in scripture. Check the NT, the book of Romans, there's reference to Sodom there, therefore, it was homosexual they committed then.

The only thing is, there wasn't exact word to describe the act then, hence, it was "men laying with men". As the NT was written, words to fit the acts had evolved and was used. So, you need to do word study along and ask simple common sense questions.

Yooguyz: @Goshen360 i think the op has a point

Which one be my name you come dey mention naw? Na me be the OP ni?

Image123: What do you mean by No. No as in, the spoils of war are not legal or what? Those are the rules of engagement in war. Look through history whether Bible or secular, the spoils belong to the victor, including Jesus. Your salary was not yours in the first place, until you worked for it.
Abraham never denied ownership of his spoils, the spoils were the booty he got from conquering 5 dominant and powerful kings. Lot and Sodom were by the way, and at the mercy of discretion.

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Lemme be warming up at the side lines, getting ready to enter the field...according to your story above.

takeprofit: Thanks for ur contributions, if not some pple wld be more confused. the matter has bcome simplified. i have more difficult questions to understand here.
https://www.nairaland.com/1435868/bible-babble-contradictions-holy-bible

I don't have much time at hand but I will honour your invitation, I will attend that thread when I do have time. There's absolutely no contradictions in the bible, we only need to study.

Even when I took a glance at the thread, I thought it was going to be a hard question, not knowing it was as simple as ABC...

Bidam: You re not preaching the liberating word of truth but liberalism. Liberalism always says: God never knows what He is talking about, so we have to interpret it for the people to truly understand.

There is a law, if you like, a code, to which we are expected to conform. Many Christians make the mistake of thinking that to be free from legalism you must become free from any law whatsoever. Nothing is further from the truth. The Scriptures never endorse that notion.Tithing is NEVER legalism.

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Jesus must be a legalist to say this in your opinion?

(1 Timothy 6:3-4) "If any man teach otherwise, and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing,"

oops!! Apostle Paul must also be a legalist to say we should follow the words of Jesus.

The way and manner you handle the word of truth baffle me at times. So because something is "the words of Christ", we should just follow it. Do you know how many things came out of the mouth of Christ that you cannot follow? I have told you how to understand this your Matthew 23:23 but you close your eyes to the truth - just replace scribes and pharisees with the church, body of Christ, disciples, apostles and read it again.

takeprofit: nawaoo. so, i have no business with the old testament (what is it still doing in the bible?) since its an executed contract.
lets face the new testament/contract.


btw Tithing is a product of old contract? hw about all these talk about women wearing trouser or not?

You have a better covenant in Christ. The old covenant was between God and Israel, the new is between God, through Christ and the church, as many that believes. You should better understand your own covenant rather than understanding another man's covenant.

Tithing, trouser for women are not part of the new covenant.

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Abeg make I sleep joor.

When you give a man contract to do under an agreement, when such contract is FULFILLED, doesn't it come to AN END?

Think about that till I meet you again.

haibe: Ok bro, later but what of your brother judas?

Judas? That ain't a bad name\I.D, you know...

DrummaBoy: Where the Spirit of God operates there is liberty: freedom to act or give. Where another spirit operates there is bondage: a call to obligation, leglaism, or tithing.

That is how to distinguish Candour position from Image's. Both claim inspiration from scriptures, both claim to be allowing people freedom in religion but one claims there should liberty to give any percentage the other insists the minimum must be 10%.

Thank U jare candour for referring me to this thread. Its been an eye opener. This is all I intend to say on this thread.

*Unfollows thread*

Before you #unfollow thread#, I'm Goshen360 and I ENDORSE your message with that of Candour's.

We have a mandate of the new covenant to chase these legalistic teachers out with the preaching of the liberating word of truth!!!