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MaxInDHouse:
Who is your brother in Christ on this thread with whom you've not exchanged insults?

Let me mention my own brothers in Christ:

Janoski, Aemmyjah and several other JWs.

Oya mention just one person if your so called "God" is the Bible God!

So, this is how you intend to dodge the question.

Have I exchanged insults with you before you accused me of cursing and abusing? Your brothers in the fake christ even supported you by liking your lying post. Birds of a feather!

Mention where I abused or cursed anyone if you have any honour whatsoever!

Janosky:
This evidence confirmed by GothamCities worshipping 2 persons .


GothamCities confirms worshipping Jesus as he worshipping Jehovah.
GothamCities worshipping 2 persons.

I am not surprised, I have heard that the devil and his sons have the same lying gene flowing in their blood.

I told you Jehovah and Jesus answer to the same titles which demonstrates that the two are one! They're the same person. Not two persons, but you turned around to lie that I claimed to be worshipping two persons. May God have mercy on your soul.

If Jesus is Everlasting Father and God is Everlasting Father, can't you see Jesus = God? Same person.

DaddyCoool:
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Let's put this debate to rest once and for all.
The normal human inclination is NOT to complicated things, to go for the easier path.
Hence our natural inclination is to say: "How can Christ be God? There is only one God!"
The problem starts when you actually start reading and studying the Bible. As you immerse and really get to know the Bible, it will gradually dawn on you that Christ can't be anything but God!

That's why founders of groups like JW usually never went beyond high school. Or an uneducated person like prophet Muhammad. They can't handle that there is any complication to God. But real scholars must or they'd be lying to themselves!

Here are some things I posted previously:

There are quotations in the Bible both in support of, and seemingly NOT in support of deity of Christ. So we look at our practical life experiences:

God restored a Person from dead knowing fully well he'd be worshipped as God, and you don't think he approves of it? And it's been on for 2000+ years, and the church has only multiplied, prospered, and become stronger?
You'd be implying God does not exist, or is powerless, or does not care! - and LordReed would heartily agree with you!

See, if this were 50 AD, we could be saying let's wait and see. And remember, nothing provokes the wrath of YHWH like trying to worship another alongside Him. Don't you think that for Him to resurrect a dead Person and allow His being worshipped as God for thousands of years says something about where He stands on the issue??!

Can't you see he can ONLY be God? God has no son or you'd be talking of wife, mother, etc (as in Roman gods). "Son of God" can only mean an extention of God (unlike, say, a prophet), a manifestation of God, God himself!

Don’t you think it is only God that could have restored a Person from all that (He was literally DEAD!) to a position of being worshipped as God, and that it would never have been possible if God had not approved of it, and definitely would not have lasted these thousands of years?

Matthew 28:19: Jesus commands His disciples to baptize "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

2 Corinthians 13:14: Paul speaks of "the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit."

You have a good point here. God begot a son by extending Himself. That's the only way God can have an offspring. Not through intercourse.

Just like cells. Cells don't give birth to other cells through intercourse but they reproduce themselves through a process called Division. And whatever comes out of that division is still called a cell. Whatever comes out of God's extension is still God. Not man.

Maxindhouse said Jesus was a created being. The confusion these people put themselves in can only happen after one has been bewitched.

johnw47:
those false jw's are the great false accusers like their god the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

and those gods people lie like hell, which again shows who their god really is

so called jehovah's witnesses:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Thank you bro?

Like father, like sons. A leopard can't change its spots.

MaxInDHouse:
Someone who can't point to one single fellow as his fellow believer instead after few conversation he'll turn to arguments, abuses, insults and curses all in the name of the same Jesus you all call your Lord!

Is that not why you are all ashamed of your churches but pointing at the only religion whose members are united in faith?

You've clearly described yourself.

Where are the curses, abuses, etc you're ascribing to me?

Christianity without proof is not Christianity. All those outward shows of Piety are just hogwash.

I am a living proof of the God i serve.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

You can't say that to someone who is a living proof of the God he serves.

DaddyCoool:
GothamCities, below is my post that shut up
Janosky and MaxInDHouse :

Lol.

Thanks for shutting them up using their own doctored Bible. They know they have no answers but rather than sit down and examine the falsehoods in their hands, they'll keep going on in their delusions because they want to please the men of their organization and avoid being excommunicated.

Is it not rather good to be excommunicated by man than to be excommunicated by God?

Pygmalionn:
...trying to understand the story...

Make una dey simplify una write up make people for area fit understand naa

They're initiating disputes on their bank accounts to ask for refunds for the money spent during Detty December.

Janosky:

You are very confused indeed.
"Came/Come from" meaning Place or Source of origin of a being. In the spiritual realm Jehovah is Always the Father of Jesus,Revelation 3:14,21.
The expression "Jesus came from" indicates his origin.
Only Jehovah God his Father is Everlasting, without beginning, Psalms 90:1-3.
Gotham,
Trinity confused you.

My question to you:
Where did Jehovah God come from?



God head invented by Trinitarians is not in any Greek manuscripts or .Septuagint .
Go and verify this fact.

Did Jesus your Master worship 2 persons?
Please Continue in your folly.



You know nothing about the Bible you hide in your cupboard to gather dust.



3 forms & deities invented at Nicene in 326 AD & 381 AD.
Go and study your Trinitarian godfathers history.


Is jesus Christ the Promised Seed @ Genesis 3:15 ?
Yes.
Did Jesus defeated Satan the original serpent,@ Revelation 12:7-9 & 1st John 3:8?
Yes.
Did Revelation 12:7-9 identify the original serpent of . Genesis 3:15?
Yes.
Did archangel Michael defeat the Prince of Persia (aka Satan the original serpent.@ Daniel 12:1 /Daniel 10:13?
Yes.
Jesus Christ is the archangel Michael jare, 1 John 3:8 , the same apostle John wrote 1 John 3:8 & Rev 12:7-9.
Concrete, solid interesting fact.

This Bible truth is not for kids & shallow minded church goers.
Martin Luther is not shallow minded church goer, he get strong liver well well to challenge the Catholic Church & announce his belief in Jesus the archangel Michael.

My God, you spill all these gibberish and call yourself a Christian? That's why you're so spiritually shallow and limited. Half truth is more dangerous than whole lies. You have a very big spiritual problem because you've fed your soul with so much nonsense that you're already lost. Only Christ can recover you.

Every commentary insisted that the verse regarding Jesus being from everlasting shows He is from the eternal past. There's no angel that is from everlasting. Jesus is called The only Begotten Son of the Father for good reasons. I cannot be arguing with you on this. If you've decided to be blind, may your blindness remain. Trying to twist the scriptures can't save you from the eternal implications of what the Scriptures you twisted stand for. You can only deceive yourself during this ephemeral moments of earthly life to feel good. The eternal consequences of your choices will eventually dan on you.

There's no title God bears that Jesus doesn't bear. Is God the Everlasting Father, so is Jesus according to the Scriptures. Is He the Beginning and the Ending, so is Jesus. Angel Michael is not the Everlasting Father, neither is he the Mighty God, and can never be! You actually have to be bewitched to entertain that thought, let alone believing it.

Revelation 12:7-9 is still future. If Jesus is Michael, did Jesus return to.heavrn to go continue as Michael to fight the Dragon? Infact, ordinary common sense should tell you through this verse that Jesus and Michael are not the same entity.

Small boys like you should not actually be talking where adults are but I'll school you a bit regarding your self deceit about Luther's position on the Trinity.

Martin Luther firmly believed in the doctrine of the Trinity. Listen carefully. Luther accepted the traditional Christian understanding of the Trinity, which holds that there is one God in three distinct persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit.

Luther's affirmation of the Trinity can be seen in his writings, such as:

1. The Small Catechism (1529): Luther's explanation of the Apostles' Creed, where he explicitly affirms the Trinity.

2. The Large Catechism (1530): Luther's more detailed explanation of the Creed, which reiterates his commitment to the Trinity.

3. On the Councils and the Church (1539): Luther defends the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity against the errors of the Anabaptists and other sects.

Luther's Trinitarian theology emphasized the importance of:

1. The unity and coequality of the three persons of the Trinity
2. The distinct roles and works of each person (e.g., the Father as Creator, the Son as Redeemer, and the Holy Spirit as Sanctifier)
3. The Trinity as a fundamental aspect of Christian doctrine and worship

Yes, Luther's theology challenged certain aspects of Catholic doctrine and practice, his commitment to the Trinity remained unwavering because it was among the truths delivered by the Apostles' Creed.

Get knowledge and stop being fooled by those satanists in the US. They have deceived you enough!

The Apostle's Creed itself emphasises the Trinity. The fact that you're referencing Luther to defend your position shows that you're deeply ignorant. Luther is not even our final say. The Bible is our final say. I will not accept the words of Luther if he contradicts the Bible. Luther is not my God, as your GBs are to you.

No human has perfect theology, hence , every child of God has the responsibility to take his views from the Scriptures and not from men.

Janosky:
Did the Jesus you claim to follow, worship 2 persons?
Bring the evidence from your Bible.
Or:
Continue WAILING and spilling GIBBERISH.

Did I ever claim to worship 2 persons? Bring the evidence from my conversations.

Janosky:
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You invented "gods in the USA" ,a figment of your deluded imagination.

When kids reason they invent "gods in the USA."

Who doesn't know that your so called GBs are your gods? Their words hold higher authority in your lives than that of Jesus himself.

I ask you, who bewitched you to this level of self deception and personally induced destruction?

You're actually the compete opposite if what a follower of Christ should be.

Janosky:
Confused 3 deities devotees,, you Know ZERO about the Bible or let alone the historical antecedents of your Trinitarian mentors.

Check Malachi 3:1 & Genesis 16:7 in your Trinitarian Amplified Reference Bible and Geneva Bible older than your KJV Bible.

This kid,carry your naivety out of this thread.

I've been studying the Bible long before you were born. Smiling.

You're the one who has 3 deities. We have one God who has manifested Himself in 3 forms.

Jesus is not angel Michael. The Bible is very clear on that. Jesus came from everlasting. He has no beginning. In Him dwells the fullness of the God-head bodily. He is the Aloha and Omega, just as Jehovah Himself. He is the Beginning and the Ending, just as Jehovah Himself. He is the Everlasting Father just as Jesus Himself. He is the Prince of Peace, the Mighty God. The Government shall be upon His shoulder, and of the length and duration and increase of His government, there shall be no end.

Tell your gods n the USA to come debate me on this. You who were born of yesterday have no such depth of knowledge to debate these things.

Janosky:
Martin Luther left your Trinitarian mentors the Catholic Church after making the discovery from the holy scriptures that Jesus is actually archangel Michael.


You don't know what it means, that year Jesus fulfilled the Father's command to begin ruling in the midst of his enemies.

That is a prelude to the fulfillment of 2 Thess 1:7-8
Nah only we JW's know what it means.

As you can see, that matter is already giving you sifia pains.



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Such balderdash!

Chai! Where did you get all these nonesense from? Doctrines of demons at best.

MaxInDHouse:
A profession that's about training to kill when Jesus say otherwise shey?
You for count prostitute join nah after all nah profession today!

So, can you tell me the Church that has such a school where such professionals are trained?

Christmyhope:
You are right sir. I love the understanding of the gospel by some brothers and sisters on this forum in Christ Jesus. May God be forever praised in Christ Jesus through the church. Amen

Amen and Amen.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy continue deceiving yourself!

Says the one who calls Jesus angel Michael? SMH.

It's the audacity for me. Someone whose Jesus came in 1914. Is it not bewitchment to believe such nonsense?

Such a person like you should already know you're deceiving yourself but spiritual blindness is real. May the Lord heal.your inner eyes.

MaxInDHouse:
Mention the religion that trains people to kill, steal, homosexual, drunkenness, prostitute, drug abuse, lie.

God's Kingdom will not tolerate any of these acts but people practice them.

Who will go and teach people how to avoid such acts?

Well Christ Jesus sent us out to preach and teach people not to do any of these things that's why he said we have to change some jobs after becoming Christians!

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news  who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. But many who are first will be last, and the last first.” mark 10:39-31

Guy "fields" means jobs which a Christian must resign or forgo because it doesn't speak well of disciples of Christ!

I can see you're really confused.

So, you can't mention any church that sent troops to the battlefield?

Janosky:
Oga, you are deceiving yourself.



The subject headline reads:
"Russian Orthodox church declares 'holy war ' against Ukraine and the West "

When your pastors/gods of men declares "21 days fasting " , did they send GothamCities & other sheeples to do fasting?


Oga Pls,Allow your brain to function nau.

What's difficult is also telling us the troops the sent to this holy was and how the declaration and action relates with me.?

MaxInDHouse:
A profession that's about training to kill when Jesus say otherwise shey?
You for count prostitute join nah after all nah profession today!

Tell me the Church that trains to kill. Just name the Church!

MaxInDHouse:
He loves deceiving himself!
Pastor declare FASTING all those fasting will be blessed by their God but when the same pastor declare WAR and they are going our friend wants to shy away!

When Pastors declare fasting, do they not organize meetings relating to the fast? Tell me the troops that the Orthodox Church sent to the warfront. Also tell me how the Orthodox Church or it's declaration. Has anything to do with me!

MaxInDHouse:
You acknowledged trained killers as Christians while i will never ever say such a person is my brother in Christ!

They're soldiers by profession. A Christian is not acknowledged by profession but by a simple faith in Christ Jesus!

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving your own soul!

Don't worry now. The end will tell.

I have tasted almost all Christian sects including your cult. So, I know the truth better than you do.

Again, the end will tell!

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted are people of the world but Jesus said his disciples are no part of the world! John 17:14-16

WHY?

Because others takes orders from their lords telling them to go fighting and killing one another while Jesus' order to his disciples is:

‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ Mark 12:31

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another.  By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-45

So according to Jesus carrying weapons in the name of war is forbidden among his disciples! Matthew 26:52

So, how am I concerned? Am I in Ukraine?

MaxInDHouse:
Go back and refute the post i made with reference to the question if you are not deceiving yourself!

You didn't make any reference to any scriptures your 1914 fake Jesus fulfilled regarding the events of Christ's second coming.

Janosky:
Oga, allow your brain to function nau.
You are seeing the evidence but Continue deceiving yourself.

"Political leaders in both Russia and Ukraine have looked to their religious communities for support. In some cases, religious leaders have offered explicit support and even donned uniforms to serve in the armed forces, providing important sources of legitimacy for their countries’ position on the war."

"Russian Orthodox church declares 'holy war ' against Ukraine and the West "
Are you viewing the screenshot evidence?

What evidence am I seeing?

Which Church sent troops to the war? A And how do they represent me and the entire Christian body?

MaxInDHouse:
If all the evidences i gave are LIES to you it means you can't SEE Jesus because he is no longer in human form he is now a mighty spirit King whose works people are seeing globally today as he is using his group (JWs) to fulfill God's promises!

Satan is the killer {John 10:10} not humans {Luke 23:34; Act 7:60} those fighting and killing their neighbours and fellow worshipers today are under the influence of DEMONS {Revelations 6:3-4} so if Jehovah's Witnesses have expelled those demons possessing former killers and transformed them to peace lovers then you are judging yourself now {Matthew 12:28} whoever blasphem Holy Spirit by speaking against its obvious fine works will never be forgiven! Matthew 12:31-32

Tell me the Scriptures your fake Jesus fulfilled in his coming in 1914. Is that too hard for you to show?

MaxInDHouse:
Church is not represented but soldiers fighting and killing people are Christians.





Ọmọ you can run but you can't hide from the truth!

There are Christians, Atheists, Pagans and Muslims on the battle field. Tell me which Church sent troops to fight as you have claimed!

id911:
I think I'm wasting my time replying you. So much ignorance

I.think.you should go find the article on this bill and read in detail.

There's nothing in the News that suggests that anything was added or removed from the original bill. The northern governors simply affirmed the inclusion of the clauses they initially opposed.

Mexyz:
No boss, I'm in accounting world and I perfectly understand what they mean by 50% equality.
What you explained up there is the derivation aspect and not equality basis.
It should be 20% equality and 60% derivation

My brother, the News flying around never insinuated that anything wA removed or added. They just simply affirmed what was in the original bill which they disputed.

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
And Jesus will bless them for killing the people whom they supposed to save through their preaching and teaching {1Timothy 4:16} and also kill their fellow believers with whom they supposed to preach about the Prince of Peace during wars in support of politicians! John 13:34-35

Guy you are a real disciples of Christ jọọ don't mind me!

That's your own cup of tea. All I know is that the Church is not represented in the Ukraine and Russia war, neither in any war whatsoever.

Just tell me the Church or Churches that sent an army into that war.

MaxInDHouse:
The so called "FAKE JESUS" has been the reason why we have a global family of peace loving worshipers today called:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. 1Corinthians 2:14

He has been working with us in gathering humble, honest hearted, obedient and sincere individuals throughout the earth so that they have beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears, they don't lift up weapons against their neighbors nor do they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Through the effort of this FAKE JESUS Jehovah is gradually bringing an end to war throughout the earth among His true worshipers {Psalms 46:9} but as for those who failed to see Jesus they are still fighting and killing themselves {Revelations 6:3-4} and ruining the planet with their destructive devices {Revelations 11:18} so our Master, Lord and King said he will slaughter all of them {Luke 19:27} because they failed to acknowledge his presence but as for us to avoid confusion since you people also claim Christians our God will call us by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15 compare to Isaiah 43:10

My dear, your lies don't sell here

Just tell me how your fake Jesus fulfilled the scriptures about Jesus' coming I gave quoted so far. I have many more shockers for you.

id911:
How does 50% equality, 30% derivation and 20% population amount to what you said above?

North has really shown the south that they're wise while the South are dummy

All these were all.part of the tax reform bill. North has done nothing.

The major issue of the North was that agricultural produce which is the major revenue for North is not taxed, so how will North get all those 50%, 30% and 20% tax benefits? This one one of the reasons north opposed the bill. And you look at the OP, the north has accepted everything wholly with no single objections or revision.