rapid101:
I support dis idea
After dis
Der ll be a private loan banks which ll be in charge of given out loans to student to pay for school fees and at d been paid gradually wen de get job wit dis out eduction system ll b competitive, churning out real graduate not d nonsense we ve. In SA and other western world dis I'd how it don were by tax is paid as revenue by dis university, at d end more money to be made by d fed. Govt and d money goes round to every citizen. He who has ear let him hear, he who with eyes let em see clearly

Which job is available??
If you think corruption from school management made the schools not work don't you think the loan bank money will also be embezzled??
Do you know that most countries in Europe have free education to all levels with high quality??
With all the fees our private universities pay how many of them are in top 5 in Africa??
You have to wake up and understand that our problem isn't about selling but we must deal with the primary issue.
What happened to power that has been privatized??

johndan103:
Before I begin I need to lay down some clearifications:

1. This is not a political Thread. my grievance is beyond any political party. So there is no intention to promote any.

2. I assert that there is no solution to the current mess Nigeria is in. Nigeria has become the laughing story about the globe. And it not about any specific political party or individual. That is, this issue started from the foundation of the entity called Nigeria. These same issues are not just evident in Nigeria. Same problems are common around Africa eg south Sudan, Liberia, Freetown, DRC etc. In fact it's more like the African system of government is not best for Africa.

3. I don't believe in secession or disintegration of the country or redrawing any borders.

4. I am more about allowing resources to be controlled by the owners of those resources. Wherever they are found. I am about state policing.

5. But the problem is that the Constitution as it is favors only the people who have hijacked it from the beginning. So we need to suspend the Constitution and re write another one based our collective agreement.

6. We can achieve these by the use of technology. There's something called blockchain ,put in plain terms. Blockchain cannot be modified or manipulated. So therefore it is reliable. That's why it can be used as a medium of exchange value in form of crypto currencies.

7. We can bypass the current Constitution easily. And form a government online. Which will be completely transparent. Everyone acts based on the conclusion of what was debated online.

8. The idea of one man one vote is flawed in the sense that some men are more enlightened than others. No matter what you feel, knowledge is power and an ignorant man's opinion shouldn't weigh same as someone knowledgeable about pending disaster if a decision is taken. Take for example. The architect is in the best position to decide the structural design of a building. The carpenter how ever how good he may be in carpentry will not be able to convince fellow knowledgeable people.

9. Which means tests and performance will be the yardstick for how valuable an account is. Which translates to "voting decision power".

Selective Electronic Government Initiative Will hanle this.

10. This project is open source and has no central control . So just as Bitcoin is not controlled by any specific authority but the people. Contributions will be open to everyone who is deemed fit to contribute in any way.

11. There's serious need for developer participation in the GitHub account where the app resides and the source code is publicly available.

Please ignore my typos.
I will update this thread as often as I can.
I also hope I did not break any nairaland rules.
I read them and kept them in mind while expressing myself.

Good luck my fellow Africans. I hope you wake up one day and see that you are in bondage and it is not improving. It won't improve until we reorganize things buy dumping the old Constitution and rewrite one that favors us.

Peace only come the moment you become Knowledgeable.

I have similar but a bit different opinion from what you put up here but I want you to know that we can achieve a youth revolution or rather achieve our proper independence, If you want to join this movement please send me a pm as soon as possible

WillTop:


For Europe to keep enjoying free education they keep a manageable population growth rate but here in Nigeria no one wants to talk about how a country with an estimated population of 45million+ in 1960 is now about 180million+ (with over 50% less than 30years - signifying active reproductive period) and will likely grow to 400million in 2050. We can't have it both ways if we want to have what Europe is enjoying now we must pay the sacrifice

You said it all, but can I ask you whose duty is it to control her population and to have statistical data for future planning??
That's still the issue the government consecutively has failed totally in her responsibility

ClintonNzedimma:

I agree, but in a nation like nigeria where corruption is normal, I don't trust fg with my money. I

The reason we all appear uninterested in government is because we have no commitment, if you know your hard earned money is part of what a government is lavishing no one would ask you to protest against harsh policies or evidence of embezzlement but since we have no real stake all we do is protect them is they are our tribe ANS criticize them if they are not.
That's our greatest undoing.

ClintonNzedimma:

are you willing to pay 40% tax from a meagre 30k per month salary, mr man?. The American model is what is sustainable at this point. Forget the Finland model

We prefer to carry so much money with us and not interested in the value.
How about you pay 40% of that amount and you have free healthcare, free education, sure of security which will you prefer?
Taking 30k home without tax and paying for your healthcare, hope you know that if you have common appendicitis and need to have an appendectomy done for you that 30k will not be enough??

Also for your information 30k as salary wouldn't pay 40% as tax that's what nice about Europe your tax is proportional to what your annual salary is.

frankmoney:
free education is only possible in Europe because they have a tax system that works , check most of those countries that offer free education in Europe , thier cost of living is usually very high , Nigeria can barely maintain a subsidized educational system and you want it to be free . And banning private schools won't improve anything , the wealthy ones will just choose foreign schools

You didn't get my point.
In Nigeria, the government internationally allow these infrastructure to die so they can create a means for them selves and their proxy to make a living.
Primary and secondary school started deteriorating when government started handling over licence to private investors.
Back in 70's and early 80's all rich kids attended public schools or missionary schools but what happened afterwards?
For the Europe you said don't you think we are just being penny wise and pound foolish?
We don't want to pay tax, we don't want to fund the government but we end up paying more for basic things.
Apart from education look at health care system in Europe, look at basic amenities like roads and rail line, in those countries they have toll for majority of roads this help them get proper findings for it.
Look at their healthcare system majority enjoy almost 80% universal health coverage but back here we keep trying to copy the USA but we don't have the basic foundations to do that.
It's not impossible to fix our educational system but until we hold these guys responsible and start seeing who our enemies really are there would be no head way.

janvier27:
The bitter truth is that free university education as we currently have it is not sustainable. Going to the university shouldn't really be a matter of natural progression as it is now.

You are very wrong, stop following or reading about just USA.
Check the whole of Europe and see how very possible it is to have free education and make it work.
Our government internationally kill these sectors so they make us think it's not possible only to sell them to themselves.

The only solution to these whole issue is to create a total ban on private owned schools and see if these public schools wouldn't be fixed

IntrovertedK:
how about Osun state? How did they acheive there own power? Did they generate themselves and serve the federal or it's the federal that does and send directly to them cuz ayam not understanding. They have constant power supply.

Have you botheres to find out where the national grid is located??

chineji:
I really wish I could show more pictures from my trip but the others had my face in it and I dont wanna show my face. We are really suffering in Africa. I used to be one of those who believe in this continent but I don't anymore. We are living like animals especially here in Nigeria. Nigeria especially is the worse amongst all African countries. Nigeria lacks the basics a country that can't provide electricity nor water for its citizens or even healthcare. In all of Italy, healthcare is free. They live so long. You see so many old people on the street. They get sick they go to the hospital and get treated for free and they got quality healthcare. We got absolutely nothing in Nigeria. I am back to Nigeria now and at the moment I am confused on what I wanna do. Everything here feels so strange and so weird. Everyone in Nigeria is suffering I mean it everyone. You have to really go outside to see how bad it is here.

Anyone that wants to leave Nigeria should do so ASAP. This country and by extension much of sub Sahara Africa will never get better. I mean even Gabon that has so much oil and very few citizens has so much poverty and really shit infrastructure same with equitoreal guinea.

The most painful aspect is that most African leaders travel to this countries regularly and see how things are done here and see how people live like human beings but cannot replicate same in their home nations.

Anyone that has an opportunity to leave Nigeria should waste no time. We are suffering in Nigeria. Life is not all about money quality of life matters too and quality of life in Nigeria is shit real shit.

I think there is a way through these stuffs and the only way is a drastic change, we need a youth revolution we need to chart a course for ourselves.
Being angry and complaining alone can't solve it, it's time for us to start a strong youth movement.
Life isn't all about how much you have in your bank account but the quality of life.....
Support #theyouthawakening

kevwemike:
this result was arranged, the photograph that was on the certificate should be the photo the president used when he was registered for the exam, why this recent picture? Again the result the president presented the first time the photograph are different from the one on the original certificate. Nigeria is a failed state PMB is a big scam

The way some of you reason is the reason why politicians don't take us seriously.
Read the topic, presidency never said they have found the original results but rather a new one was issued.
The certificate and statement of result has nothing to do with his original result because you know our data storage is poor. There is no body who wrote Waec back 1960 that Waec would have their passport.
This certificate is entire reissued just like a renewal, even if you want Atiku to win, you should be selling his programs same way PDP lost 2015 by over flogging the certificate issue now you guys have started on it again

Racoon:


Statement of result from his Kastina High School he got F9 in Maths and Woodwork but same was not reflected here.What is wrong again? Meanwhile the F9 He got in Lit.in English was duly reflected here.Why


What he should have done since 1983 esp.in 2003 rather he chose to privaricate with the "my certificate are with the military secretary" excuse & kept on swearing affidavits up and down.
Meanwhile the fear of lawsuits must have forced him to do this stunt.

Failed subjects don't reflect on certificate

Juliearth:



I am sure you are talking about over-the-counter skincare products. I know of some organic brands that don't use harsh chemicals...that is why they are called organic...well unless if you are saying Shea butter, almond oil... Contain neprotoxic compounds

Everything has chemical contents and that's the reason we have professionals

NuhRegular:
Hello Nairalanders.
I created this thread for the sake of honest and candid reviews on Natural skin care remedies such as Shea butter, kernel oil, honey and so on.
The information you provide could save the life of someone. Please feel free to share your info.

If you are serious go and see a dermatologist, because of creams most creams contain neprotoxic compounds that at times are not indicated in the ingredients

daddytime:
Most times when I come online and see the "sai babarisms and atikulatings" from the so-called youths and assumed leaders of tomorrow I just shake my head in repulse and I'm forced to believe there won't be any redemption from the present quagmire any time soon.

We go clapping for and insulting each other over people who care less about the present conditions because it obviously favours them and their wards, and have precariously positioned their offspring to take over from where ever they'd be hanging their boots from.

Perhaps Y'all will continue sai babaing and atikulating their children as well after their fathers have successfully ruled over your fathers and eaten into your time and future before passing on the baton to their wards to finish off that which they had started.

Whoever thinks these our present crop of leaders will visit the constitution as it is presently for a tweak must be joking. This is so because it was deliberately arranged that way to favour them at the corridors of power.

The youths of this country have got to rise up and quit being lame-sitting ducks and internet warriors. Let's come together, collapse whatever mushroom youth associations all around the country into one firm and solid movement that can give these guys a good run for their money and make them realise we are truly prepared to take over governance. When they say the youths aren't prepared, it isn't just a mere say, it is indeed a fact judging from how so beat-down and docile they have rendered us technically and otherwise. They know what they have done to us and our morale but its time we took the bull by the horns.

In my opinion, we should let them have this election seeing how we aren't in the mix by any stretch, but we can begin to prepare from now and the next four years to take over with no negotiations.

The next four years is enough for us to get under a solid youth body comprising of youths from every region, religion, social class, etc and set up a mock constitution review panel. This panel should study the present constitution to strip it of every and all the rubbish contents imputed to benefit and protect the enemies of the state. Every clause relating to immunity, security votes etc should be expunged from the constitution. The humongous allowances for NA members would be cut down to the barest and true separation of powers entrenched in our new constitution. The judiciary would be looked into as well to correct all the anomalies that have rendered our justice system to favour the highest bidders and find ways to expedite dispatch of judicial matters.

Our military and paramilitary would be looked into as well to position them for their profession and not a willing tool for the political class to suppress and oppress the opposition.

Strip the rubbish called constitution a draft a new one we shall all agree on to control whatever is left of our future with and have a country to bequeath to our children while they continue improving on the constitution to suit their times as generations proceed.

If we can do this, trust me we would have an idea on the direction we intend going with a new Nigeria and also have a campaign manifesto for the next election. You can imagine being able to galvanize a good number of youths from now until the next election in four years time who can contribute a minimum of 1000# to a potential war chest to match these thieves on the campaign trail.

We can do it if we are willing we just need to quit with allowing ourselves get distracted by the same old wines in fresh bottles. It's the same old same.

The matter dey tire person abeg.

Send me a DM asap we need to talk

This sounds nice

ItsMeAboki:


I repeat, neither NMA nor MDCN have the legal right to authenticate medical certificates; simply because one cannot validate what he does not produce - how can the private seal of an employee override that of he employer?

Yes, I have seen a sample of the seal, it had already been uploaded here in this thread; it still does not matter whether it is traceable back to the doctor or even to his DNA'; what should only count and authenticate the validity of a certificate is the official stamp of the issuing hospital (nothing more and nothing less) - otherwise every other professional would likewise feel obliged to countersign his work with a seal from his own association or union.

Can you imagine if university lecturers should later insist on co-signing your degree certificate with the stamp from their association - haba!

In case of a lawsuit, the doctor like any other employee is indemnified against prosecution while acting as an agent of his employer; only the hospital is liable; except of course if a prima facie case of gross misconduct or professional negligence can be proven against him.

Like I had earlier said, medical doctors are yet again simply allowing their egos to get ahead of common sense.

You are so biased try and calm down and read again, I never told you that the stamp overrides the issuing hospital, what the stamp authenticate is that it was signed by a doctor and stop the whole fuse.
Allied health workers can't issue or sign medical certificate for you enough of these inter departmental fight. Any course you did you should be proud of what you do and face your job.
Do each lecturer that taught you sign your certificate?
Who signs your certificate is the head of your institution, the essence of the stamp is to make sure it's signed by a medical doctor who by law has the right to issue a signed health certificate on behalf of the hospital

ItsMeAboki:


You are the one not getting the point; NMA is a private organisation (a mere association) for medical doctors, with no authority to authenticate the work of govt organisations such as hospitals - including the medical certificates which they produce.

Nma is free to issue stamps of authentication for the personal use of its members but these cannot and should not substitute for the ones of the organisations in which they are employed.

NMA is not the owner of these hospitals nor the owner of the certificates which the produce; even if signed by one its member as part of his duty as an employee - whose contribution is only a part of the total work that went towards producing the said certificate.

Pls tell me, who should be held liable and responsible in the event of a law suit pertaining to a false or incorrect released medical certificate - the issuing authority i.e. govt hospital, the medical doctor who signed it as part of his job or NMA who is presumably guaranteeing the doctor and by extension the authenticity of the certificate by use of its membership stamp?


NMA is wrong on this one and same goes for anyone failing to see it for what it is - NMA is seemingly encroaching on the responsibility of the MD & DCN which is the official regulatory body for doctors; even it too has no powers to authenticate medical certificate issued by hospitals.

You are making too much sense but being too fast, calm down and breathe down.

Agreed NMA isn't a licensing agency like the MDCN but have you seen the seal that's been talked about??
How about if NMA issued it in conjunction with MDCN?

On the issue of who is held responsible, lawsuits doesn't involve just the hospital management but also involves the issuing Doctor, it's his duty to answer to what he issued,

No one is replacing or trying to take over the relevance of the issuing hospital but ensuring that in addition to the letter head of the hospital, the signature of the doctor should have his seal which has his registration number with which he can be easily traced. Hope you understand.
I agree with you to an extent but there should be a way to make these guys more cautious, it has its pros and it's cons

ItsMeAboki:


Your position is also flawed and represents the notoriously resented over bearing attitude and bloated egos of medical doctors.

Medical certificates are always issued by recognised authorities (not individuals) - in most cases, govt hospital issued certificates are the ones recognised.

The certifying officer, who is usually a medical doctor (not necessarily the issuing officer) is only an employee of the above mentioned organisation; he therefore has no right to issue such certificate on his own as an individual nor does the NMA have the right to authenticate such certificate (as implied) by substitution of the organisational stamp of authority with the one given to its registered member i.e the medical doctor for his personal use.

You got it wrong, agreed the health institution issues the certificate but it is signed by someone who is a medical doctor, now in addition to your signing you have to include your official stamp containing your name and registration number this further pushes you to avoid signing what you are not sure of.
Nysc actually could be doing this to curb the issue of people who come up with health conditions to make them redeploy. You have to try and stop the fight against doctors, what we all in the health sector fail to understand is that our common enemy is the government who fail to be committed to properly funding healthcare not someone being a doctor.
Hope you are aware some people don't do only laboratory test, how about those that do respiratory test as in case of asthma who should state that they have asthma? How about those that would do ECG and have heart issues who should certify them?? Even your university certificate was signed by Simeon who probably never taught you any topic.

All politicians are same.
Look at Ayim a former SGF under Jonathan and some fools will come online and be fighting themselves

BeeBeeOoh:
• Says it will substantially reduce the political tensions and executive excesses that come with self-succession



https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/08/23/again-ekweremadu-canvasses-six-year-single-term-for-president-govs/amp/

I agree with this but on a condition attached to the constitution that elections could be called at any time of there is civil unrest.
I would want to see us have a constitution where the military would be under a Supreme military counsel and they should be have the responsibility of bringing the executives to checks.
Also legislators should have a maximum 3 terms

Jaideyone:
and you can't walk into a community Pharmacy abroad, tell the pharmacist how you feel and get a remedy for your ailment?

you are talking like a complete illiterate

so a pharmacist spent 5yrs concentrating on drug chemistry and pharmacology just so he can read what the doctor wrote on paper and dispense blindly? hehehehehe

It's pointless discussing with an illiterate. The essence of discussion is to make valid point not to insult each others. You never addressed any of the points I raised with a coherent point. Thanks for your opinion, no one is holding pharmacist or any other field down from demanding the same.
I for one want total professionalism. I have seen schools who pharmacy students are been taught by people who studied other courses and did a masters in a pharmacy related course and it's wrong.
Let nursing develop their own program and let nurses teach nurses, same with pharmacist etc.
No big deal about this

Jman06:
Stop posting jargon here! There is a reason why that level is called preclinical. All you need at that level are the basic understanding of those subjects to proceed to the clinical stage of medical studies. Anybody who has studied up to PhD in those subjects can deliver those basic knowledge. Even checking through the profiles of authors of some of the textbooks used at that level of medical study would reveal that many of them are not medical doctors but people with PhD in those subjects and they teach medical students.

Clinical pharmacology is not specific to medicine and medical doctors! A check through wikipedia would inform you about that. It is a research-oriented discipline that is open to healthcare professionals including pharmacists who are interested in research in that area. Most research-oriented courses are multidisciplinary btw.

Last anatomy, Keith Moore, Snell's anatomy and so on are written by medical doctors even frank netters atlas.
The issue with you and some other Nigerians is we always want to take issues with people.
I never said clinical pharmacology was only for MBBS what I said is there are MBBS doctors who specialize in clinical pharmacology and it's not the same as just doing a master and PhD in pharmacology.
No one is saying anatomist with PhD shouldn't lecture but they should only lecture bsc students, because it is better for MBBS doctors with PhD to lecture anatomy to medical students, try and note the difference

Jaideyone:
lol see this one concluding foolishly that non-doctors who are lecturers beef their students what a foolish way to generalise

these are the kind of people with low IQ studying medicine now

What you don't know is fare bigger than you. It's not once it's not twice, you hear them say it, not just to medical students but even some pharmacy students who borrow some of their physiology and histology courses.
Seems you have a poor sense of judgement after all

Jaideyone:
lol is there a school like USA medical school?

if it's the question I think you are trying to ask there are non-refundable doctors that are pharmacists, microbiologists, pharmacologists, biochemists, etc that teach in medical schools.

medicine is so broad that doctors can never take all their own courses!!! my dad is an engineer and his engineer friend was HOD of biomedical engineering in CMUL for several years. there is medical microbiology which non-doctors who have post graduate certificates take abroad too!!!

ignorant fellow

you are the ignorant one

Lol why run from the point, I said list lecturers in any medical school in the USA that is not a medical doctor,
You can do medical microbiology in PhD but can't practice as an attending, learn the difference.
For your dad's friend did he study anatomy??

Jaideyone:
so the pharmacist that spent years studying the chemical composition, lethal dose, effective dose, pharmacology and biochemistry of drugs is not in the position to tell the patient what to take?

is that not prescription? hehehehe

prescription is not the writing on paper but the act of authorising the use of a drug. if as a pharmacist I give someone a pack of antibiotics I just prescribed!!!

ignoramus!!!

Do you know why doctors prescribe drugs worldwide??
Do you think prescription is about knowing the chemical structure of the drugs??
And more so do you think doctors don't know pharmacology, that's very funny, my dear try and get a medicine curriculum and see, like I would always say if you haven't been through medical school don't open your mouth to talk trash.
Your duty is to produce drugs and dispense, standardly a doctor prescription should be on generic name while your duty is to choose which among the available formations is best for the patient.
You can't prescribe drugs without understanding of medicine, someone come with a rash on his skin, what do you want to do with your knowledge of chemistry??
Even a surgeon would refer such persons to a dermatologist not that he is ignorant but there are over a 100 things that can cause rash. How about common headache, pharmacist should learn to be professionals and limit themselves to their job description.
Only in Nigeria will someone sign up for a job he isn't proud of doing, if you want to treat patients go get an MBBS licence

Jaideyone:
they are greedy!!! that's it!!! in developed countries people who are not MBBS graduates teach medical students and no one is complaining.

we want to copy their system of education but our doctors want to put their own greed

Some of you talk like dumb ass Tell me one none doctors that lecture in the USA medical school or do you think medical schools are run like they are in Nigeria.
Don't confuse college/premed with medical school they are not the same.

Jman06:
You see what i have been saying Nigerian medical doctors have totally lost it! So, by this, a great majority of them will now proceed to get an MSc and PhD in the basic medical sciences so they could start teaching anatomy, physiology and biochemistry to medical students while leaving behind other lofty medical specialties. For your information, minimum requirement for lecturing is a PhD so don't even think that NUC will allow you replace PhD with MBBS because no where in the world is an MBBS equal to a PhD. So, you guys should get ready to spend years of academic research to earn a PhD.

And for the guy alluding that medical doctors know pharmacology more than pharmacists, let me inform you that every action of a drug resides in its chemical structure and studying the chemical structures of drugs is within the domains of pharmaceutical chemistry which pharmacists study for 4-5 years. Modifying the structures of these drugs through various means ( including factors within and outside the human system) changes the actions of the drugs. So, tell me how a med doctor who has no knowledge of drug chemistry would know the effects of the drug better than a pharmacist.
That you are allowed to prescribe drugs is an anomaly which has resulted to so many deaths. That is why the pharmacist must be there in the hospitals not only to ethically dispense the drugs but to also screen your prescriptions to pinpoint prescription errors.

My friends, you can never know it all! Do your parts and let others do theirs.

Let me correct your ignorance, first no one is saying MBBS is equivalent to PhD and second no one said doctors would be given MBBS and automatically start to lecture basic medical courses.
Now let me clear you, the point is there has always been three routes for an MBBS doctor, one is residency, one is private practice and the next is academic, which is masters and PhD.
Now what they are implying is what 90% of those who went through medical school has one time agitated for, what we want is let MBBS doctors who have PhD in anatomy, physiology or medical biochemistry be the people who would take medical students only.
Let me give you an example in my school back then, we had an MBBS doctor who has a PhD in anatomy and majored in histology and he is also a fellow, meaning he is also a consultant histopathologist. Now my question is do you think someone who has just PhD in anatomy would teach histology better than him?? Back then in Preclinical histology was like the easiest course because you would understand what you are seeing on the microscope.
Now let me correct what you don't know there is something called clinical pharmacology and for your information you can't understand clinical pharmacology without clinical skills and knowledge of other aspects of medicine.
Medical doctors are not God and they don't claim to know it all, but until you attend a medical school please keep shut. Try and go online and understand the curriculum of medicine and surgery then you would understand.
Becoming a clinical pharmacology means you would study a further 5 to 6 years after gaining your MBBS, so stop parading your ignorance.
Check Usmle review videos how many pharmacology did you see a pharmacist teaching?? How many microbiology did you see someone not a medical doctor teach??
It's stupid when some of you generalize about doctors. Just Google the first 5 neuroanatomist in Nigeria and know how many have MBBS Google the first professor of
Dematoglyfics in the sub-Saharan African, Every field is important and unique but no field is equal

maduxs:
I know that clinical makes a good impression but what I’m saying is doctors should be allowed to teach clinical anatomy while anatomist should teach the rest because believe me they have depth knowledge of anatomy more than there medical counterparts. It’s like bringing war between families

Big lies bro, you can't compare a medical doctor who has a PhD in anatomy to a non doctor with PhD in anatomy. Experience is not bought or taught overnight.

Jaideyone:
so if I do anatomy, biochemistry, physiology up to PhD level or I even become a professor I still won't know enough in my field to teach "medical students"

clowns

You didn't get it.
Now in biochemistry it has very diverse parts and let's say you do clinical or medical biochemistry, and a medical doctor does same to PhD which do you think would teach it better??
Now apart from that if you have gone through medical school you would understand, some of the none doctors victimize their students because of "beef"for medical school.
It's simply enough, Let someone with mbbs and a PhD handle the field, those none doctors can't teach other students within the college of medicine

ola12:

I dont knw if u understand me or not. A doctor specialist is different from an actual pharmacist is all I'm saying. No matter how specialized he is in "pharmacology", dats still a pharmacist's domain.

About the bolded, Pharmacists still scratch their heads daily wondering why, it isn't supposed to be so but it ended up dat way. Oh well

Try and google what pharmacology means and you would understand. A pharmacist doesn't have the knowledge of pharmacology more^than a consultant pharmacologist who spent years to understand how this works with respect to internal medicine and the body as a whole.
Most people still don't understand how deep and wide medicine is

Kc3000:


Not necessarily, a physician's approach to pharmacology might be different from the pharmacist's. Most of the pharm you'll learn in a US medical school is taught by physicians...I guess it's different in Nigeria. Physicians can sufficiently teach pharm, but I think the PhDs are still needed to teach the early courses like cell biology, genetics, microbiology, immunology, anatomy and physiology etc. Yeah, sometimes they teach you more than you care to know from the standpoint of a clinician, but no knowledge is a waste. I believe physicians could adequately teach everything in a medical school curriculum, but they'll have to surrender a lot of clinical responsibilities to do this. Of course, the medical student learns all about pathology and the management of these pathologies from the resident and attending physicians.

Would you compare a PhD teaching microbiology to a consultant clinical microbiology teaching it?? Hope you are aware there iS room for medical doctors to do masters jn anatomy or physiology or medical biochemistry and teach it?
There is a difference between having the ability to teach and having the clinical expertise, for me I would even clamour for orthopedic surgeons to take limb anatomy, while a general surgeon take abdomen.
But last last having a medical doctor train medical students can never be overemphasized, it's should be mandatory

ola12:
Who cares??, their loss. Let me see doctors lecture them on pharmacology as well as a Pharmacist can

You are so ignorant, hope you know something called clinical pharmacology?? Hope you are aware there are medical doctors who are consultant clinical pharmacology??