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Culture › Re: The Oyo Versus The Benin - My Experience From Ozanagogo Trip by gregyboy(m): 11:21am On Aug 30, 2020
Mraphel:
Doubting Thomas
Na you get e doubting spirit
Culture › Re: The Oyo Versus The Benin - My Experience From Ozanagogo Trip by gregyboy(m): 11:17am On Aug 30, 2020
RedboneSmith:
It is very strange for a full-grown man to make this kind of mistake. How can you be physically present in Ukwunzu, mix with the indigenes, and somehow get the place mixed up with Oza? Lol. grin

That is why I said you probably made up the story about you visiting the place. You wrote this based on second-hand evidence. I know Ukwunzu has Eastern Yoruba and Benin connections, but I do not believe you went there.
Lol, you wan turn this thread to igbo vs yoruba chill thread we edos got the fight bro, grin


You know if yoruba sees igbos they rather die fighting them than rather quit licking the fulani feet

So please dont give them the chance to divert the topic lol, you have said enough grin
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 11:12am On Aug 30, 2020
TAO11:
Despite the different Yoruba views on that thread, not one Yoruba person has ever or would ever describe me in such terms as your brother Prolog described you.

He literally said you lacked the ability to use your own brain.
.
.
.
So my question to you still remains:

Name me one person on Nairaland who thinks you’re mentally fit. cheesy
Lol, my brains am not using is still what i used to flog you and your brothers


Ooh... You want to deny it, you weren't told most times you spoke rubbish, dont make strsss myself go find it,
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 11:02am On Aug 30, 2020
TAO11:
That’s a big fat Edo lie. grin cheesy

Provide your evidence.
Yoruba hebrew heritage when am chanced i will
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 10:12am On Aug 30, 2020
TAO11:
Mention one person on Nairaland that thinks you’re mentally fit. Just one. grin grin cheesy

Even prolog your Edo brother confirmed that you lack the ability to use your brain. cheesy grin
And your brothers always tell you, most times you type it always end in rubbish
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 10:10am On Aug 30, 2020
TAO11:
No, I came to Nairaland to disgrace liars and later leave. I didn’t come here to live forever.

I am set to leave because I have disgraced you all. No Benin liar have been left unexposed, and you are a living witness to that.

I am currently disgracing another Igbo liar. At the moment he has even reduced to zero, just waiting to give him the final killer blows just in case he attempts to want to resurrect.

It’s interesting that when I rubbish and disgrace liars, I leave them addicted to me while I move on to my next victim.


I know you will throw a big party all over Benin kingdom when I eventually leave. grin

You will be so glad to flood everywhere with lies and with no one to put you in your tiny little place.
My fear is coming to nairaland one day and reads
On Frontpage TAO11 committed suicide at his residence in ajegunle, and the cause of the death could be traced to some arguments she had with gregyboy,
Am letting you know my hands are off, i know how weak your clan could be and how easy they pass calabash for suicide when thsir lives is unbearable please TAO11 dont go and take drastic action off nairaland, please we need you alive


I know after your scamper your brothers will be inactive on nairaland, when you're leaving call me that silver abi sniper moniker guy

Gregyboy the slayer of TAO11 and the entire yorubas, i thought our ancestors took chances invading the yorubas, now i know it wasnt chances they just needed conquered the weak tribe just to help them
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 9:56am On Aug 30, 2020
Do you know that, the sculpture up there is not oromiyan, the sculpture was made in the 16c years afterthe myth of oromiyan arrival to benin


It is a fact benin sculpurist dont makes sculpture for past event on a present time, they make the sculptures immediately the event happens to keep date, and serves as document

Again ife never used horse only oyo, oyo began using horse after the rise of the said mythical empire in 16ad, which was brought by the fulanis

So oromiyan coming from ife with horse, is lie coming from devils mouth....


Again that guy on the horse is an igala warrior after the benin and igala war the oba commanded sculpurist to document it with art, the art was found in the benin ancestoral alter to celebrate the defeat of igala by benins


So that article you posted is all shades of wrong


Do you know why you guys always flop, because you all never researched the history you are arguing on, so you all keep matching lines


My next quest is to burst ife myth open and destroy d bond that keeps yorubas together
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 9:43am On Aug 30, 2020
TAO11:
When I rubbish someone, I leave them behind addicted to me while I move on to my next victim.

The 1st two attachments below is from my 1st Igbo victim who has since been left in perpetual grief while hoping and praying to someday win back what he had lost — I have since moved to my next victim and he didn’t realize. grin
You should take your brothers along while leaving nairaland they no use, finally an igbo man made you retire, i know most of the damage came from me, the igbos just did finish off
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 9:42am On Aug 30, 2020
TAO11:
When I rubbish someone, I leave them behind addicted to me while I move on to my next victim.

The 1st two attachments below is from my 1st Igbo victim who has since been left in perpetual grief while hoping and praying to someday win back what he had lost — I have since moved to my next victim and he didn’t realize. grin


You should take your brothers along while leaving nairaland they no use, finally an igbo man made you retire, i know most of the damage came from me, the igbos just did finish off
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m):
Hellraiser77:
Big fat lier!! grin grin

Scared little chicken cheesy, Go back to the thread and reply me if you ain't scared grin

Igbos battered and decimated your lies that you almost left Nairaland out of shame. grin saying a new phase of life has been opened for you by igbos cheesy

I screenshoted your shameful farewell speech below cheesy

Cc gregboy
Wow, you succeeded in pushing off TAO11 from nairaland....

Wow you're a great man


I hope TAO11 wont commit suicide like awolowo
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m):
TAO11:
Naah! I actually flogged them so hard that they reported me to the mods as a bully.

In fact, one of them alleged that the mods and some Yoruba politicians are assisting me in dealing with them. grin

I respect you for your thick skin because they obviously couldn’t survive what you’ve been taking for over a year now. cheesy

The’ve got very light skins. They’re so boring. grin
You're just like the tortoise with endless stories
You will always find something to say
Culture › Re: Interprete Dis In Ur Own Local Dialect Language... by gregyboy(m):
Truvel:
Person Way Chop Beleful No Know Wetin Hungry Man Dey Face.
Mine Is Ijaw. Eyei Fe Biri Bein Keme Zene obo Moun Oya Numu eh.
I heard ijaw were amongst the tribe that ate the whitemen for supper during their expedition, and i also heard you guy use to still eat monkeys


If you gonna deny this i will bring prove, but how true is this
Culture › Re: The Oyo Versus The Benin - My Experience From Ozanagogo Trip by gregyboy(m): 2:58am On Aug 30, 2020
olawalepopoola:
On the location, I made a mistake it was Ukwu-Nzu Thanks for that correction. I don't need you to believe the story. What I heard is what I passed on. Benin has a strong relationship that commons like you don't know. Learn!
Hmmm busted
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 2:54am On Aug 30, 2020
IDENNAA:
You have been annihilated on this thread. I will wait for your usual drool
Lol, my qualms is with the yorubas not igbos,

For now say what you want, i dont have igbo time now
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 2:43am On Aug 30, 2020
proeast:
The funny thing is that you're quite a novice yet claiming to be well informed.
Go to Bonny island, deep in Ijaw territory, and see the indigenes speaking fluent Igbo and same with other places in Ijaw land, yet you don't see us claiming those people and places as Igboland despite all these factors. Yet you want to leave your rustic villages and start claiming people that have no linguistics, tradition or cultural similarity with you? Even in terms of physical appearance, there is no similarity whatsoever.

Why would you see Anioma claiming Igbo when they're already Igbo?

What is the meaning of Anioma in Bini?

If they're not Igbo, will they be answering Igbo names, observing Igbo cultures and tradition?

Would they even be part of Ohanaeze to start with if they're not Igbo?

Go and tell Ngozi Okonjo Iweala or the most prominent ruler in Anioma, the well learned Obi of Asaba, Chike Edozien that they're not Igbo and see what they would do to you.

There are asmall settlement of Igalas in Anambra and Enugu, so because they're in South East now means they are Igbo and no longer Igala?

To whom brain is giving, sense is expected.
In my spare time i would revisit this comment
Culture › Re: Why Do The Bini So Love And Respect Thier Oba Unlike Other Tribe Do 2 Their King by gregyboy(op): 2:40am On Aug 30, 2020
TAO11:
Stop justifying your Oba’s rape and incest.

This is Africa!
Crazy Bitch
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 2:22am On Aug 30, 2020
TAO11:
We’re only trying to know why you keep tagging different unprintable names to your Oba’s ancestors.
The impact the igbos gsve you on the other thread should be enough to send you off nairaland for sometime or even completely


The question is why are you still here
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 2:18am On Aug 30, 2020
babtoundey:
You now prefer arguing with Tao11? You now prefer the same Tao that has been weeping your adamant head with the wisdom it cannot comprehend, the same Tao that has made you a nuisance and noisemaker, the same Tao that has proven you a boisterous and arrogant ignorant.

You're a joker.

I repeat, nobody will take you serious until you garnner the courage to confront your Oba and all the Benin traditional rulers with your erroneous assertion and call them what you think they are. If you cannot make your traditional rulers buy your concurted version of Benin-Ife history or make them agree to your archeological facts cited by your European historians you have no reason spamming all pages on this forum with your baseless views.

Each time I check your moniker, I am always reminded of:

one pathetic DumP that opines that "it is shinning and it is red" equates the term king/ruler (and as a result, Obaseki means shinning/red Seki)

[s]one jobless swine that in a bid to sell his stupidity and odious claim creates two different monikers so as to make unsuspecting readers believe his views are popular as he goes about supporting and affirming the theories of one moniker with the other moniker (Hope you have stopped using your daddy's phone. it's been long I saw your second moniker)

one inconsistent braggart who today will say Oranmiyan was in Benin and retract the statement the following day.

of one ignorant nitwit who at a point traced the colonisers of his ancestors to Igala, Binni-Kebbi and Vietnemes just to efface the relationship between Ife and Bennie

of one unstable mind who believes his forefathers connived with strangers to sell themselves cheap, destroy their glorious past and distort their history ( who therefore names his ancestors betrayals and liars)

And of one nuisance and idiot who asks for archeological facts, rational evaluation, European sources, "elementary science, social studies, Economics and Commerce" as backups for content his brain cannot comprehend when the only reasonable backup he ever gave for his odious and unpopular claims is "my father said", "I think" or " some ridiculous rants from some blogs.

Mraphel just did to you what Tao11 has been doing to you since the beginning of time. We all know you will bounce back into ocean of ignorance. it is not your nature to learn. We're not bothered by your consistent fall.[/s]
You typed with so much emotions and still didn't make sense, fall back behind d comments as usual you all are no different from aboki who didnt go to school, you think you can drag me in your useless myth of a non existed oduduwa and oromiyan fables

Just wait my next piority is to dig deep into the yoruba myth and expose it, then the bound the coward awolowo created will be left dangling with no support,

Northern ass lickers

Anyway before i decide to go too political,

Our oba is not of the mythical ife origin formed by Samuel johson

I know who gave you likes, TAO11 and mpharel guy... Lol �
Culture › Re: The Oyo Versus The Benin - My Experience From Ozanagogo Trip by gregyboy(m): 12:06pm On Aug 29, 2020
Benin and ife nevered happened it is a myth

Benin-owo is a fact
Benin-ekiti... Is a fact
Benin - eko is a fact
Benin-akure is a fact and so man
Benin-oyo war which benin came victorious during the ekiti parakpo war is also a fact



But you see the benin-ife fables, it is no fact it all started after the creation of nigeria to diplomatically unite both kingdom so history was twisted to accompany themselves.......


We are retracing our history from myth
Culture › Re: The Oyo Versus The Benin - My Experience From Ozanagogo Trip by gregyboy(m): 12:01pm On Aug 29, 2020
olawalepopoola:
As a Geologist our major happiness lies in seeing and studying rocks in their natural State. With my colleagues and students we toured parts of Edo and Delta States to understand the rocks distributions in the area.
One of the places we visited that I will never forget in the course of my career was the deposit of white plastic clay of Ozanagogo. We left Benin and passed through Ogwashi-Uku to see the deposit. Something important happened when we reached this town. As a thumb rule, a Geologist must seek the consent of the owner of the land he/she wishes to explore. Therefore we had to head to the King's palace. To my utmost surprise, the King saw the name of our University 'Achievers University, Owo'. He immediately he saw this he beckoned on all his queens and Chieves to come and see their kinsmen. Kinsmen! We wondered how Yorubas are related to a town in Delta. Then the King told us the story of his empire.
He related to us that the pioneer King of the town who was his own ancestral Father was a grandson to Oramiyan, a powerful King in Yorubaland. He claimed that the Father to pioneer King was Bini. He further told us they common traditions with Yorubas and attend meetings of Yoruba Monarchs when the need arises.
Because it was already late that night and we couldn't continue our journey, He asked his queens to prepare rooms for us to pass the night and prepared a tasteful meal as dinner. We later went inside the town to watch to watch the historic 2012 European Champions league semi-final match between Chelsea and Bayern Munich.

Story narrated. Something I noted in the narration of the King are:
(1) That the original King that formed the town is of Benin origin but with a grandfather of Yoruba extraction
(2) The title 'Oba' is exclusively used by the Yorubas to address their Monarchs. There is a possibility that the Binis must have contact with the Yorubas at a point in history.
(3) History had it that Oramiyan is a well travelled King who possibly restored back the Bini Empire back to its rightful owners
(4) It was learnt that during his voyage to rescue Bini (Known as Ile Ibinu by the Yorubas, possibly named due to the war they fought at that time), Oramiyan met the only existing Princess, whom he married and gave birth to a deaf son, who later inherited the throne. After him, he gave birth to another son through the same Princess who established Owo Kingdom (Owo is Yoruba town in Ondo State, SW Nigeria). The dressing of the Oba of Owo is similar to that of the Oba of Benin. I hope you know Ugbowo street in Benin, it was the name of the second son that established the Owo Kingdom.
LEARN HISTORY
Fables from desperado tribe called yoruba,

You all started using the word oba for king in the early 30s to boost your kings historical evidence
We benins never saw it coming we woukd have objected it at first instance


As a mattee of fact benin-ife fables were made up recently and it is regarded as a myth that it is
Culture › Re: Why Do The Bini So Love And Respect Thier Oba Unlike Other Tribe Do 2 Their King by gregyboy(op): 11:51am On Aug 29, 2020
TAO11:
Your damage control was not effective.

Stop the royal rape and incest.

Return the royal heads to Ife.

Let Benin know peace.

Culture › Re: History Of 4 Nigerian States by gregyboy(m): 11:43am On Aug 29, 2020
Sewgon79:
The Dangers of Crowning the wrong Prince as Oba

Our traditions, culture and customs are willed to bring peace, truth and light to our land. Our lives are guided both by the spirits and the physical, they are one. Inseparable they weave the destiny of a people far beyond our imagination, the mysteries cannot be unfolded at a glance but once the imbalance occurs by an act considered evil it must take its full course, many pay with their lives even before it can be corrected.

The Binis have for some time now lived as though they have been cursed, Robberies, killings, kidnapping, prostitution, incest and much more, all considered abominations and crimes. The gods and our ancestors must be angry. The one trusted to cleanse the land is the one who leads, he alone bears the burden to find solution, but not without consulting his council, the wise ones and the oracle. The stubbornness of a fly they say allows it to be buried with the coffin. Even though many had suspected where the problem comes from, most were not sure until the battle of the Ogiamien and the Oba Palace began about a year ago.

We are talking about the bond made centuries ago now broken.

The first of such bond is the return of the remains of the Oba to Ile-Ife and to obtain permission for the installation of the new Oba of Benin broken by Oba Akenzua II and continued until now. Benin currently owes them three (3) kings.

Second, the Late Oba Erediauwa allegedly slept with his own blood sister by name Princess Comfort Ikuoyewen Eweka the daughter of Oba Eweka II and had Princes Eheneden and Aghatise Erediauwa. This is an abomination because the daughter of an Oba cannot produce an Oba of Benin. It has never happened in the history of Benin. This is a taboo and an abomination in Bini as incest (sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry also: the statutory crime of such a relationship) is not permitted. Once a child is born outside of wedlock and the proper traditional rights cannot be performed including the payment of dowry the child is considered illegitimate.

Third, the refusal for Prince Eheneden, the illegitimate and sacrilegious son of Oba Erediauwa though the first son born to him to honor the Ekiokhagba Treaty and imprisoned the Ogiamien of Utantan and brutalized the Ogiamien Royal Family. The Ekiokhagba Treaty was bond between Ogiso Erebo and Oba Eweka I and has existed and is honored by the crown Prince before he is installed and coronated as the next Oba.

The King must be Kind, compassionate, wise as well being a warrior. He must bring peace, good will and prosperity to his people. However, this does not ring true for Prince Eheneden. His half siblings have suffered his wrath over time. Three that come to mind which happened recently is

When he ordered, the first princess, Theresa Erediauwa out of her home, throwing her belongings into the streets like a tenant and common criminal, disgracing her before the kingdom.
Did nothing to intervene when Prince Ekpen Erediauwa’s land was taken away from him unjustly, and crushing his political will.
And asking Prince Omoregbe Erediauwa to remove the sculpture of his late mother, Queen Esther from the five junction.
He allowed himself become a political tool to destroy his own people, and sold out many times for a plate of porridge.

Recently, he drove away palace chiefs asking them to bring their sons in their stead, also an abomination, since a son cannot take over the title of his father until the final burial ceremony is performed.

He also committed a taboo and an abomination by committing incest, he slept with many of his own blood relations, including the daughter of Prince Festus Eweka, who had two children for him. Recently she was seen in a rage outside the palace for not been allowed to see him. As for the second wife she is the daughter of Eweka too.

These are not the makings of a king. We have a common adage, “Whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad.

And to make it worse, in the Nations Newspaper online on May 25, 2016 published, “Edo State Government has withdrawn a letter earlier issued on the Oba of Benin, saying it was issued in error.

In a retraction signed by the Secretary to State Government, Prof Julius Ihonvbere, dated May 25, 2016, the government stated: “In deference to the revered age-long tradition and respect for the sensibilities of the people of the great Benin Kingdom, the Government of Edo State hereby withdraws a letter issued on 24th May 2016 entitled: “Appointment of His Royal Highness Edaiken N’Uselu, Crown Prince Eheneden Erediauwa as the Oba of Benin.””

All these are bad signs and omen of what is to come.

The true Crown Prince is Ada Erediauwa if Benin is to be at peace. And for the Ogiamien Royal family to rest, Peace must be pursued by the Oba Palace through talks and not violence, and the Ekiokhagba Treaty honored as it has always done for centuries now.

Let the Oracle speak now in truth for the Bini People.

Ogiamien ghato kpere, Ise.
Ignorance would not kill you, lol i just wanted to ignore this writeup before......


Let me give you a brief understanding on benin

And the person that wrote this is trying to get sympathy from the people that dont know the custom of benin.....
It is not a taboo for the oba of benin to marry from the royal family it has always been a norm even in ancients past, modernization made it incest, an oba marrying from the royal family helped in strengthen the royal bloodline, they also can marry outsider too, they are some past, incidence that happened in benin that it was requested the oba marry from his royal bloodline
That is cousin, to keep the ogiso dynasty strong, the oba also is allowed to marry outsiders too,
It is a thing of joy if the cousin of the oba gives birth to the first born, the people would be happy that a strong blue blood is going to rule, unlike a prince from commoners

Again when a particular oba dynasty is done, like the present oba EwuareII dynasty if it has ended his own particular family has no business to any royal entity or even to be called prince, to the benins they would be seen little above the commoners, the ewuare11, family completely packs out from the palace and the new king emerge with his family,

That is the crown prince packs in as a the new king while is own father family packs out completely from the palace, in the ancient, it mostly involves a tuggle of war to resolve this, any of the brother that emerge the other must packout for the other


The ogiamien treaty was never involving ife, anyone who is making a remark to it, he is using the myth for his advantage, the true history was never involving ife.......

Note again....

Oba marrying or impregnating is distance cousin or any of his cousin is bounded by royal custom, it has always been happening, it is only allowed in the royal dynasty alone and not to commoners
, this is to secure the royal bloodline, almost every dynasty in the world did this one way or the other even the British dynasty and the Egyptian dynasty...... To secure their bloodline

Stupid yorubas are masturbation on our history,
Claiming the oba as yoruba by all means grin

Culture › Re: Why Do The Bini So Love And Respect Thier Oba Unlike Other Tribe Do 2 Their King by gregyboy(op): 11:42am On Aug 29, 2020
TAO11:
Honorable minister off your mic Oo! grin
Ignorance would not kill you, lol i just wanted to ignore this writeup before......


Let me give you a brief understanding on benin

And the person that wrote this is trying to get sympathy from the people that dont know the custom of benin.....
It is not a taboo for the oba of benin to marry from the royal family it has always been a norm even in ancients past, modernization made it incest, an oba marrying from the royal family helped in strengthen the royal bloodline, they also can marry outsider too, they are some past, incidence that happened in benin that it was requested the oba marry from his royal bloodline
That is cousin, to keep the ogiso dynasty strong, the oba also is allowed to marry outsiders too,
It is a thing of joy if the cousin of the oba gives birth to the first born, the people would be happy that a strong blue blood is going to rule, unlike a prince from commoners

Again when a particular oba dynasty is done, like the present oba EwuareII dynasty if it has ended his own particular family has no business to any royal entity or even to be called prince, to the benins they would be seen little above the commoners, the ewuare11, family completely packs out from the palace and the new king emerge with his family,

That is the crown prince packs in as a the new king while is own father family packs out completely from the palace, in the ancient, it mostly involves a tuggle of war to resolve this, any of the brother that emerge the other must packout for the other


The ogiamien treaty was never involving ife, anyone who is making a remark to it, he is using the myth for his advantage, the true history was never involving ife.......

Note again....

Oba marrying or impregnating is distance cousin or any of his cousin is bounded by royal custom, it has always been happening, it is only allowed in the royal dynasty alone and not to commoners
, this is to secure the royal bloodline, almost every dynasty in the world did this one way or the other even the British dynasty and the Egyptian dynasty...... To secure their bloodline

Stupid yorubas are masturbation on our history,
Claiming the oba as yoruba by all means grin
Culture › Re: Benin Influence On Yorubas by gregyboy(m): 11:40am On Aug 29, 2020
Sewgon79:
The Dangers of Crowning the wrong Prince as Oba

Our traditions, culture and customs are willed to bring peace, truth and light to our land. Our lives are guided both by the spirits and the physical, they are one. Inseparable they weave the destiny of a people far beyond our imagination, the mysteries cannot be unfolded at a glance but once the imbalance occurs by an act considered evil it must take its full course, many pay with their lives even before it can be corrected.

The Binis have for some time now lived as though they have been cursed, Robberies, killings, kidnapping, prostitution, incest and much more, all considered abominations and crimes. The gods and our ancestors must be angry. The one trusted to cleanse the land is the one who leads, he alone bears the burden to find solution, but not without consulting his council, the wise ones and the oracle. The stubbornness of a fly they say allows it to be buried with the coffin. Even though many had suspected where the problem comes from, most were not sure until the battle of the Ogiamien and the Oba Palace began about a year ago.

We are talking about the bond made centuries ago now broken.

The first of such bond is the return of the remains of the Oba to Ile-Ife and to obtain permission for the installation of the new Oba of Benin broken by Oba Akenzua II and continued until now. Benin currently owes them three (3) kings.

Second, the Late Oba Erediauwa allegedly slept with his own blood sister by name Princess Comfort Ikuoyewen Eweka the daughter of Oba Eweka II and had Princes Eheneden and Aghatise Erediauwa. This is an abomination because the daughter of an Oba cannot produce an Oba of Benin. It has never happened in the history of Benin. This is a taboo and an abomination in Bini as incest (sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry also: the statutory crime of such a relationship) is not permitted. Once a child is born outside of wedlock and the proper traditional rights cannot be performed including the payment of dowry the child is considered illegitimate.

Third, the refusal for Prince Eheneden, the illegitimate and sacrilegious son of Oba Erediauwa though the first son born to him to honor the Ekiokhagba Treaty and imprisoned the Ogiamien of Utantan and brutalized the Ogiamien Royal Family. The Ekiokhagba Treaty was bond between Ogiso Erebo and Oba Eweka I and has existed and is honored by the crown Prince before he is installed and coronated as the next Oba.

The King must be Kind, compassionate, wise as well being a warrior. He must bring peace, good will and prosperity to his people. However, this does not ring true for Prince Eheneden. His half siblings have suffered his wrath over time. Three that come to mind which happened recently is

When he ordered, the first princess, Theresa Erediauwa out of her home, throwing her belongings into the streets like a tenant and common criminal, disgracing her before the kingdom.
Did nothing to intervene when Prince Ekpen Erediauwa’s land was taken away from him unjustly, and crushing his political will.
And asking Prince Omoregbe Erediauwa to remove the sculpture of his late mother, Queen Esther from the five junction.
He allowed himself become a political tool to destroy his own people, and sold out many times for a plate of porridge.

Recently, he drove away palace chiefs asking them to bring their sons in their stead, also an abomination, since a son cannot take over the title of his father until the final burial ceremony is performed.

He also committed a taboo and an abomination by committing incest, he slept with many of his own blood relations, including the daughter of Prince Festus Eweka, who had two children for him. Recently she was seen in a rage outside the palace for not been allowed to see him. As for the second wife she is the daughter of Eweka too.

These are not the makings of a king. We have a common adage, “Whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad.

And to make it worse, in the Nations Newspaper online on May 25, 2016 published, “Edo State Government has withdrawn a letter earlier issued on the Oba of Benin, saying it was issued in error.

In a retraction signed by the Secretary to State Government, Prof Julius Ihonvbere, dated May 25, 2016, the government stated: “In deference to the revered age-long tradition and respect for the sensibilities of the people of the great Benin Kingdom, the Government of Edo State hereby withdraws a letter issued on 24th May 2016 entitled: “Appointment of His Royal Highness Edaiken N’Uselu, Crown Prince Eheneden Erediauwa as the Oba of Benin.””

All these are bad signs and omen of what is to come.

The true Crown Prince is Ada Erediauwa if Benin is to be at peace. And for the Ogiamien Royal family to rest, Peace must be pursued by the Oba Palace through talks and not violence, and the Ekiokhagba Treaty honored as it has always done for centuries now.

Let the Oracle speak now in truth for the Bini People.

Ogiamien ghato kpere, Ise.
Ignorance would not kill you, lol i just wanted to ignore this writeup before......


Let me give you a brief understanding on benin

And the person that wrote this is trying to get sympathy from the people that dont know the custom of benin.....
It is not a taboo for the oba of benin to marry from the royal family it has always been a norm even in ancients past, modernization made it incest, an oba marrying from the royal family helped in strengthen the royal bloodline, they also can marry outsider too, they are some past, incidence that happened in benin that it was requested the oba marry from his royal bloodline
That is cousin, to keep the ogiso dynasty strong, the oba also is allowed to marry outsiders too,
It is a thing of joy if the cousin of the oba gives birth to the first born, the people would be happy that a strong blue blood is going to rule, unlike a prince from commoners

Again when a particular oba dynasty is done, like the present oba EwuareII dynasty if it has ended his own particular family has no business to any royal entity or even to be called prince, to the benins they would be seen little above the commoners, the ewuare11, family completely packs out from the palace and the new king emerge with his family,

That is the crown prince packs in as a the new king while is own father family packs out completely from the palace, in the ancient, it mostly involves a tuggle of war to resolve this, any of the brother that emerge the other must packout for the other


The ogiamien treaty was never involving ife, anyone who is making a remark to it, he is using the myth for his advantage, the true history was never involving ife.......

Note again....

Oba marrying or impregnating is distance cousin or any of his cousin is bounded by royal custom, it has always been happening, it is only allowed in the royal dynasty alone and not to commoners
, this is to secure the royal bloodline, almost every dynasty in the world did this one way or the other even the British dynasty and the Egyptian dynasty...... To secure their bloodline

Stupid yorubas are masturbation on our history,
Claiming the oba as yoruba by all means grin
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 11:39am On Aug 29, 2020
Ignorance would not kill you, lol i just wanted to ignore this writeup before......


Let me give you a brief understanding on benin

And the person that wrote this is trying to get sympathy from the people that dont know the custom of benin.....
It is not a taboo for the oba of benin to marry from the royal family it has always been a norm even in ancients past, modernization made it incest, an oba marrying from the royal family helped in strengthen the royal bloodline, they also can marry outsider too, they are some past, incidence that happened in benin that it was requested the oba marry from his royal bloodline
That is cousin, to keep the ogiso dynasty strong, the oba also is allowed to marry outsiders too,
It is a thing of joy if the cousin of the oba gives birth to the first born, the people would be happy that a strong blue blood is going to rule, unlike a prince from commoners

Again when a particular oba dynasty is done, like the present oba EwuareII dynasty if it has ended his own particular family has no business to any royal entity or even to be called prince, to the benins they would be seen little above the commoners, the ewuare11, family completely packs out from the palace and the new king emerge with his family,

That is the crown prince packs in as a the new king while is own father family packs out completely from the palace, in the ancient, it mostly involves a tuggle of war to resolve this, any of the brother that emerge the other must packout for the other


The ogiamien treaty was never involving ife, anyone who is making a remark to it, he is using the myth for his advantage, the true history was never involving ife.......

Note again....

Oba marrying or impregnating is distance cousin or any of his cousin is bounded by royal custom, it has always been happening, it is only allowed in the royal dynasty alone and not to commoners
, this is to secure the royal bloodline, almost every dynasty in the world did this one way or the other even the British dynasty and the Egyptian dynasty...... To secure their bloodline

Stupid yorubas are masturbation on our history,
Claiming the oba as yoruba by all means grin
Culture › Re: Benin Influence On Yorubas by gregyboy(m): 11:36am On Aug 29, 2020
olawalepopoola:
My question is why do Oba of Benin go to Ile-Ife for some sacrifices if there are no connections
Which sacrifice
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 11:34am On Aug 29, 2020
Mraphel:
Who are the ancestors you used as slaves? Yoruba from Benin ruled Yoruba in Lagos..go and check their names.
You like claiming what you're not.
Benin was once Yoruba land after Igodomigodo, una use Nigeria to gain independence.
Lol.... Yoruba desperado today is TAO11, tomorrow is lawani, today is you, next tomorrow is geosegun.... Lol all wanting to attach yoruba history to ours... Mad men
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 11:30am On Aug 29, 2020
Mraphel:
I'm unconcerned about the heirachy but a foreigner cannot successfully rule people that you don't understand their language.

A visitor cannot become king of a whole kingdom overnight.

Oduduwa was not the direct father of Oranmiyan


There's no might my brother based on my own research.
Oranmiyan started the war right from Oba-ile (near Akure) and won towns and territories upto Benin. He was a warrior not a cool headed legend like Benin narratives potrays him.
He used Yoruba soldiers aloted to him by Obalufon to win the war.(was Ife vs Igodomigodo)

Ogiemen had Ogiso kings he defeated and their remnants still exists in Edo till today.

The original Igodomigodo knew Oba were foreign and tenant in Benin.
If i go overboard to get you the original qoute documented by the Europeans

Would you credit me 5k to my account and promise to drop this your useless narrative of yours......


You're just hell bent to put yoruba into benin dynasty you're failing at it, bro keep trying
Culture › Re: Fun Places To Visit In Ibadan by gregyboy(m): 11:25am On Aug 29, 2020
olawalepopoola:
Ibadan is not as bad as you portraying it. Ibadan, the town of 7 hills and valleys is peaceful and a fun place to be.
Who said ibadan is a lie to what you said, the only problem ibadan has is skull miners, you dont
Dare take bike along bushy roads at night they will come for your head.....
Culture › Re: Was Oyo Really An Empire and did the benin once defeat the mighty oyo by gregyboy(op): 11:13am On Aug 29, 2020
Sewgon79:
Please my brother, read what Benin people says about their Ọba and some error in past and that is going on.

The Dangers of Crowning the wrong Prince as Oba

Our traditions, culture and customs are willed to bring peace, truth and light to our land. Our lives are guided both by the spirits and the physical, they are one. Inseparable they weave the destiny of a people far beyond our imagination, the mysteries cannot be unfolded at a glance but once the imbalance occurs by an act considered evil it must take its full course, many pay with their lives even before it can be corrected.

The Binis have for some time now lived as though they have been cursed, Robberies, killings, kidnapping, prostitution, incest and much more, all considered abominations and crimes. The gods and our ancestors must be angry. The one trusted to cleanse the land is the one who leads, he alone bears the burden to find solution, but not without consulting his council, the wise ones and the oracle. The stubbornness of a fly they say allows it to be buried with the coffin. Even though many had suspected where the problem comes from, most were not sure until the battle of the Ogiamien and the Oba Palace began about a year ago.

We are talking about the bond made centuries ago now broken.

The first of such bond is the return of the remains of the Oba to Ile-Ife and to obtain permission for the installation of the new Oba of Benin broken by Oba Akenzua II and continued until now. Benin currently owes them three (3) kings.

Second, the Late Oba Erediauwa allegedly slept with his own blood sister by name Princess Comfort Ikuoyewen Eweka the daughter of Oba Eweka II and had Princes Eheneden and Aghatise Erediauwa. This is an abomination because the daughter of an Oba cannot produce an Oba of Benin. It has never happened in the history of Benin. This is a taboo and an abomination in Bini as incest (sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry also: the statutory crime of such a relationship) is not permitted. Once a child is born outside of wedlock and the proper traditional rights cannot be performed including the payment of dowry the child is considered illegitimate.

Third, the refusal for Prince Eheneden, the illegitimate and sacrilegious son of Oba Erediauwa though the first son born to him to honor the Ekiokhagba Treaty and imprisoned the Ogiamien of Utantan and brutalized the Ogiamien Royal Family. The Ekiokhagba Treaty was bond between Ogiso Erebo and Oba Eweka I and has existed and is honored by the crown Prince before he is installed and coronated as the next Oba.

The King must be Kind, compassionate, wise as well being a warrior. He must bring peace, good will and prosperity to his people. However, this does not ring true for Prince Eheneden. His half siblings have suffered his wrath over time. Three that come to mind which happened recently is

When he ordered, the first princess, Theresa Erediauwa out of her home, throwing her belongings into the streets like a tenant and common criminal, disgracing her before the kingdom.
Did nothing to intervene when Prince Ekpen Erediauwa’s land was taken away from him unjustly, and crushing his political will.
And asking Prince Omoregbe Erediauwa to remove the sculpture of his late mother, Queen Esther from the five junction.
He allowed himself become a political tool to destroy his own people, and sold out many times for a plate of porridge.

Recently, he drove away palace chiefs asking them to bring their sons in their stead, also an abomination, since a son cannot take over the title of his father until the final burial ceremony is performed.

He also committed a taboo and an abomination by committing incest, he slept with many of his own blood relations, including the daughter of Prince Festus Eweka, who had two children for him. Recently she was seen in a rage outside the palace for not been allowed to see him. As for the second wife she is the daughter of Eweka too.

These are not the makings of a king. We have a common adage, “Whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad.

And to make it worse, in the Nations Newspaper online on May 25, 2016 published, “Edo State Government has withdrawn a letter earlier issued on the Oba of Benin, saying it was issued in error.

In a retraction signed by the Secretary to State Government, Prof Julius Ihonvbere, dated May 25, 2016, the government stated: “In deference to the revered age-long tradition and respect for the sensibilities of the people of the great Benin Kingdom, the Government of Edo State hereby withdraws a letter issued on 24th May 2016 entitled: “Appointment of His Royal Highness Edaiken N’Uselu, Crown Prince Eheneden Erediauwa as the Oba of Benin.””

All these are bad signs and omen of what is to come.

The true Crown Prince is Ada Erediauwa if Benin is to be at peace. And for the Ogiamien Royal family to rest, Peace must be pursued by the Oba Palace through talks and not violence, and the Ekiokhagba Treaty honored as it has always done for centuries now.

Let the Oracle speak now in truth for the Bini People.

Ogiamien ghato kpere, Ise.
Ignorance would not kill you, lol i just wanted to ignore this writeup before......


Let me give you a brief understanding on benin

And the person that wrote this is trying to get sympathy from the people that dont know the custom of benin.....
It is not a taboo for the oba of benin to marry from the royal family it has always been a norm even in ancients past, modernization made it incest, an oba marrying from the royal family helped in strengthen the royal bloodline, they also can marry outsider too, they are some past, incidence that happened in benin that it was requested the oba marry from his royal bloodline
That is cousin, to keep the ogiso dynasty strong, the oba also is allowed to marry outsiders too,
It is a thing of joy if the cousin of the oba gives birth to the first born, the people would be happy that a strong blue blood is going to rule, unlike a prince from commoners

Again when a particular oba dynasty is done, like the present oba EwuareII dynasty if it has ended his own particular family has no business to any royal entity or even to be called prince, to the benins they would be seen little above the commoners, the ewuare11, family completely packs out from the palace and the new king emerge with his family,

That is the crown prince packs in as a the new king while is own father family packs out completely from the palace, in the ancient, it mostly involves a tuggle of war to resolve this, any of the brother that emerge the other must packout for the other


The ogiamien treaty was never involving ife, anyone who is making a remark to it, he is using the myth for his advantage, the true history was never involving ife.......

Note again....

Oba marrying or impregnating is distance cousin or any of his cousin is bounded by royal custom, it has always been happening, it is only allowed in the royal dynasty alone and not to commoners
, this is to secure the royal bloodline, almost every dynasty in the world did this one way or the other even the British dynasty and the Egyptian dynasty...... To secure their bloodline

Stupid yorubas are masturbation on our history,
Claiming the oba as yoruba by all means grin
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 12:31am On Aug 29, 2020
TAO11:
More like you prefer being flogged by Tao.

Stop “famzing” me to give yourself some validation. grin
Hey i still have not read your book, i would be coming for your head when i do, grin


The book is stressing me to read the format i have is not compactable


If you know were i can download a compatible one let me know or send me links



On the quote you gave on roupell i noticed, the myth writte by roupell never included oromiyan or oyo in the quote........


Making it already fishy



TAO11 in your next life you can never flog me as far as you are a yoruba person, you all will always be under benin just as we used your ancestors as slaves and ruled them in lagos



I like dragging you here when my dick is hard
Culture › Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m):
Mraphel:
New Oba in Benin must fight a mock war with the Ogisos of Benin and conquer.
One of Antecedents set by the first Oba. Part of d evidence
What if i tell you that war wasnt related to ife and was completely indigenous with prove from a European docunent who took the original history before the creation of nigeria


The new version of the history was the one that accommodated ife and the nonsense .....


Dont worry i have the screenshot in my gallery when i bump into it i will attach it


But let me brief you what was written in the original contest recorded by the European


Ekalderhan who was a prince was banished to east of benin were he founded ughoton and later came back and waged war with ogiemen, which they came up in a truce after the war.....



Eweka, neither oromiyan was mentioned in the European contest do you know is the benin people that ultered the history to accomidatw ife to gain supiority with the Ekaladerhan tales over the ife narrative of supiority , i wouldn't want to explain this further



You're sleeping... My friend wake up.....


Instead of arguing go and do further research



Let me school you further the original benin-ife myth told never contained oromiyan or oyo in it ,
Oyo was later brought into the myth much later to balance the supiority battle between alafin and ooni.....
To make it ooni first, oyo second, benin third in hierarchy


Stop talking in myth....

I prefer arguing with TAO11

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