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Mraphel:
False.

Titles is different from the word king

You can have titles and not be a king. What qualifies you to be King is Oba.

Benin adopted Oba through Ife Prince that faught off Ogisos off.
Also he renamed the city.
Ife people were the Early king makers. It was Ooni of Ife that funded prince Oronmiyan with Yoruba soldiers to defeat the Igodomigodo soldiers.

Check any Yoruba kings Oba must be in the name.

Lol, i dont believe you


Come with prove..... Archaeological evidence and also European evidence, on the record of the war


Again what year did Oronmiyan reign

Mraphel:
Oduduwa not a myths and his Palace ground is in Ife.
His people are still the inhabitants of the SW and many of his descendants are kings till today

The man who thinks in myth, have you left the south region before for atleast a year

anonimi:
Bring the money home.
Is he a thief like you

ogun are you there...


So his salaries wont be enough to establish a business here for invest or support the government voluntarily with his money.....


You're the thief here, your thought is that of a thief

Mraphel:
That's Yoruba language barrier for you

Your grandfather will still refer to you as son.
Oranmiyan was in the Oduduwa's great grandson's lineage.
No Yoruba will ever say Oduduwa birthed Oranmiyan Oduduwa was Oramiyan's great grandfather.
Ogun's son gave birth to Oranmiyan that's correct.

Yorubas with thier madness, take your madness away from edo history,

I nor blame yoruba na benin people when invite then to come destroy their history i blame


If you like say whatever history that suit you the fact remains oduduwa never existed most yorubas are just hijacking the history to give their clan supiority, so they try to bring the fairytale guy into existence to claim him,

Our edo brother domo, bring the money home


Akpata......


But were the yoruba name olumide name from come... Maybe na political name who knows

Mraphel:
Ordinary defeated Igodomigodo wailing. It must be very painful.
Ogun was the third Oba of ife.. He was king before Oba oramiyan evaded Igodomigodo and changed the town settings to Yoruba
Myths no be in d past kings

� This guy

The myth said oromiyan was oduduwa son, you psycho came from know were to say ogun was the grandfather of oromiyan lol


That means ogun son gave birth to oromiyan and
Not oduduwa



You see why myths should not be used in telling history

Arguing with a tribe who never had their history documented even on stone before the arrival of the British is useless

Mraphel:
Your first king was Yoruba can't u listen? Not only in Benin alone but many towns in Edo state.
Ibilo (the first king of Ibilo) was a Yoruba man from Ife too.

Ogiso was never a myths because they were ruling Igodomigodo kingdom before Obalufon asked Yoruba warriors led by Oranmiyan to evade Igodomigodo.

Ooh fine can we see the proves to the wars do you expect me to swim in your myth
.

Or do you kniw the history of my people more than me,


Yoruba should have sins reproach, you think history is took on the useless baseless facts of myth.......



Everyone can say anytime and can even write ogun was a Yoruba man who was originally the first superman the world had,

Myth and facts are words, but one lack evidence the other dont

Mraphel:
He's pained

The Ogun he dey use swear na formal Yoruba Oba. He was Oranmiyan grandfather and he long ruled Ife kingdom before Oranmiyan came to found benin.

The word oba is not yoruba lets begin to retrace the truth


Stop calling yoruba kings oba, call them their original titlle the title oba is original benin


All this benin missups with yoruba history started few years after the benin-britsh war since we benins were badly affected by the war it took years for us to heal it took from 1897 to 1914 for benin to recover, at 1914 the kingship was restored and the new oba began making fast changes to bring benin closer to then growing country, he made some diplomatic relationships with the yoruba kings, and he even was seen learning and participating in yoruba festival to create a friendly diplomatic relationship that was the beginning of benin rewriting their history to accommodate yorubas, for ethnic and political favour, untill early 1930s, yorubas began to use the title oba as a term fir general word for kings, the benins never objected this, since the long lasting relationship has been there
Benin never objected this......

The relationship between benin and Yoruba has been a long time parasitic relationship which must end, we thought it would be a symbiotic one, but little did our kings know, the tribe of cowards had nothing to offer even with their numerous population

Mraphel:
He's pained

The Ogun he dey use swear na formal Yoruba Oba. He was Oranmiyan grandfather and he long ruled Ife kingdom before Oranmiyan came to found benin.

Lol, we introduced ogun to yorubas so get those myth of yorubas off your head, better still tell them only to yoruba people not we edos



Bla bla bla even bini history that Europeans documented we can still find it out harc not to see errors, not to say from a tribe that never wrote their history or even documented them on arts


Oromiyan is ogun father, so we are to believe this rubbish because you said it, or your oral history said so, mofos rubbish


Do you want me to draw out samuel johson book on history of yorubas to counter your claims

Mraphel:
The last time I checked the real Bini have connection with the Yoruba's unlike Igodomigodo like you.
The first Obas are native of Yoruba land they drove your Ogisos to the wilderness and never will they come back.
The Akoko Edos are still connected to Yoruba and Igala.
While Estako are related to Urobo.

The question I will ask you is where in igodomigodo are u from..check well is a Bini land.
Igodomigodo now extinct

Lol, funny man igodomigodo was a fairy tale name told to accompany the edo mythology on thd sky kings ogiso this were divine myth, told in the kingdom, you believing this myth makes me see reasons why you guys believe oduduwa dived from the sky with no head injuries when he landed


The title oba is indigenous, the kingdom has always called edo, and a different version of it, by is neighbors are ado, idu and so on,

Oba has always been the title, so stop lumping ogiso(sky kings) mythology into realities leave it the way it is and disgracing your education



Please bring prove to the bolded i hope you wont run as your other colleagues did


Yorubas have been trying to make our king yoruba since 1914 to get their history word wide acknowledged


We allowed yorubas kings in the 30s bear the title oba for diplomatic sake today they are hijacking the origin as theirs

Righteousness89


Needs to answer this

Becarefull when visiting ibadan i overheard is the capital of skul ritual miners

Sewgon79:
The Dangers of Crowning the wrong Prince as Oba

Our traditions, culture and customs are willed to bring peace, truth and light to our land. Our lives are guided both by the spirits and the physical, they are one. Inseparable they weave the destiny of a people far beyond our imagination, the mysteries cannot be unfolded at a glance but once the imbalance occurs by an act considered evil it must take its full course, many pay with their lives even before it can be corrected.

The Binis have for some time now lived as though they have been cursed, Robberies, killings, kidnapping, prostitution, incest and much more, all considered abominations and crimes. The gods and our ancestors must be angry. The one trusted to cleanse the land is the one who leads, he alone bears the burden to find solution, but not without consulting his council, the wise ones and the oracle. The stubbornness of a fly they say allows it to be buried with the coffin. Even though many had suspected where the problem comes from, most were not sure until the battle of the Ogiamien and the Oba Palace began about a year ago.

We are talking about the bond made centuries ago now broken.

The first of such bond is the return of the remains of the Oba to Ile-Ife and to obtain permission for the installation of the new Oba of Benin broken by Oba Akenzua II and continued until now. Benin currently owes them three (3) kings.

Second, the Late Oba Erediauwa allegedly slept with his own blood sister by name Princess Comfort Ikuoyewen Eweka the daughter of Oba Eweka II and had Princes Eheneden and Aghatise Erediauwa. This is an abomination because the daughter of an Oba cannot produce an Oba of Benin. It has never happened in the history of Benin. This is a taboo and an abomination in Bini as incest (sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry also: the statutory crime of such a relationship) is not permitted. Once a child is born outside of wedlock and the proper traditional rights cannot be performed including the payment of dowry the child is considered illegitimate.

Third, the refusal for Prince Eheneden, the illegitimate and sacrilegious son of Oba Erediauwa though the first son born to him to honor the Ekiokhagba Treaty and imprisoned the Ogiamien of Utantan and brutalized the Ogiamien Royal Family. The Ekiokhagba Treaty was bond between Ogiso Erebo and Oba Eweka I and has existed and is honored by the crown Prince before he is installed and coronated as the next Oba.

The King must be Kind, compassionate, wise as well being a warrior. He must bring peace, good will and prosperity to his people. However, this does not ring true for Prince Eheneden. His half siblings have suffered his wrath over time. Three that come to mind which happened recently is

When he ordered, the first princess, Theresa Erediauwa out of her home, throwing her belongings into the streets like a tenant and common criminal, disgracing her before the kingdom.
Did nothing to intervene when Prince Ekpen Erediauwa’s land was taken away from him unjustly, and crushing his political will.
And asking Prince Omoregbe Erediauwa to remove the sculpture of his late mother, Queen Esther from the five junction.
He allowed himself become a political tool to destroy his own people, and sold out many times for a plate of porridge.

Recently, he drove away palace chiefs asking them to bring their sons in their stead, also an abomination, since a son cannot take over the title of his father until the final burial ceremony is performed.

He also committed a taboo and an abomination by committing incest, he slept with many of his own blood relations, including the daughter of Prince Festus Eweka, who had two children for him. Recently she was seen in a rage outside the palace for not been allowed to see him. As for the second wife she is the daughter of Eweka too.

These are not the makings of a king. We have a common adage, “Whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad.

And to make it worse, in the Nations Newspaper online on May 25, 2016 published, “Edo State Government has withdrawn a letter earlier issued on the Oba of Benin, saying it was issued in error.

In a retraction signed by the Secretary to State Government, Prof Julius Ihonvbere, dated May 25, 2016, the government stated: “In deference to the revered age-long tradition and respect for the sensibilities of the people of the great Benin Kingdom, the Government of Edo State hereby withdraws a letter issued on 24th May 2016 entitled: “Appointment of His Royal Highness Edaiken N’Uselu, Crown Prince Eheneden Erediauwa as the Oba of Benin.””

All these are bad signs and omen of what is to come.

The true Crown Prince is Ada Erediauwa if Benin is to be at peace. And for the Ogiamien Royal family to rest, Peace must be pursued by the Oba Palace through talks and not violence, and the Ekiokhagba Treaty honored as it has always done for centuries now.

Let the Oracle speak now in truth for the Bini People.

Ogiamien ghato kpere, Ise.

Who be this confused yoruba, loss... If i write a full epistle yorubas it would end in premium tears � dont make me start boy

I hope they dont drop bomb � on this
Post anyway am our before things go south

MelesZenawi:
I don't have anything to do with yorubas or middle belt or whatever it is called.

As I stated earlier, I am seriously committed to nuking any bini-igbo narratives to the mud..

In time past, I used to defend binis very well that many even was thinking I am Bini and refer to me as Bini but binis themselves are not good people.


They created a Facebook page called great Bini that the only discussion they have there is Igbo...oozing out bikes upon biles..... re-writing histories in broad day light.


So we have decided to put all histories truthfully on track. They are not good people.

Moreover and truthfully Bini-Yoruba narratives has loads of truth in them critically studying them.

Middle belt, yoruba

MelesZenawi:
Severely, I am not Yoruba so I can even join to batch/hit them hard but everything have a reason and that is because of historical connectivity that made me believe that Bini and Yorubas are same people.

This is what i hate about you, self decite....

I have screenshot of this, as long as your remain in nairaland you will flop and your identity as a Yoruba muslim will be blown open, i will open a thread to bash you......

And even report your account,


Am a benin man, if you can deniel your fathers homeland, for just a mere argument, i wonder what you can do on real ground

MelesZenawi:
Severely, I am not Yoruba so I can even join to batch/hit them hard but everything have a reason and that is because of historical connectivity that made me believe that Bini and Yorubas are same people.

Lol, you're not yoruba, you're an afonja from middle belt, you're not a pure yorubas, pure yorubas wont tag oba of benin, yoruba or any benin

MelesZenawi:
I don't listen to Nnamdi kanu neither am I in any of his social media pages.


But one thing is certain and clear, Igbos have no connective history with binis. Igodomigodo is a moonlight tale...and weak one at that.

History can't be erased in few years just as the case of Bini. I have in time past and now see binis answering Tunde, Olusegun, Akerele, Rotimi, Esan, Yemi same as Yorubas...this is history not tales. Bini has their king as oba likewise many Yoruba territories..the reason Bini is seen as yorubas...this is history not tales...Igbos has her kings as Obi/Igwe/Eze/Okpala-ukwu , names like Ifeanyi, obi, Ada, Ossai, osadebe and none of these are been answered by binis let alone Yorubas....then tell me where is the history or even the slightest rooted connectivity...


We should always say the truth at all times. Moreover from what I gathered the said kanu referred to esans and not binis...

Binis are Yorubas but Igbos history to Bini remains a made up story with no link but simply business trips and the rest.

Igbos history in benin is made up..... Lol and that of yoruba is not..... Lol



All bid to make yoruba tribe to share closeness with benin and rebuke others


Why do cowards join their adversaries in a feast if they cant fight them

MelesZenawi:
Stop this divisive statement.

There is nothing wrong if oba of Bini is ranked along obas in Yoruba land...

Bini and Yorubas are same people tied by blood.

The desperate foolish igbo man who think he change the hands of time, lol


I forsee you having ethnic cleansing on your people for this your act of desperation, while you're here trying to cut ties

Nnamdi who is more renowned than your full ancestors is trying to join igbi ties with benins

Something tells me you're fulani pretending to be igbo

MelesZenawi

fightforchange1:
beautiful....

You call this beautiful be truthful

Yorubas always want to lump our king, omo no oba nedo ukwakpolopolo as a Yoruba man.... Lol

They are just attache, if you stage them on their own words
To bring prove, they will began insulting thesame oba they claim to be yoruba because they are so frustrated they cant prove their own words



Yorubas its free to claim us, but we will always draw the actual historical line


Which says the oba if benin never had relationships with ife people tilll 1914

Mraphel:
Must u behave like a village boy on social media? Beside he's partially correct

You shouldn't have mentioned me,


Oya prove we are yorubas since we agree


Bunch of cowards, instead of you all to have self hate towards us because we used your ancestors as human sacrifice in the past and drove them from their own and and ruled them, instead, you guys are finding peace with us just to make your history worthwhile


Lol, am i only the only person who see no good in yoruba people, you guys are just bunch of overpopulated senseless tribe



If you say yorubas are original benins i will still deny it, una be bunch of cowards

Shut up


I be yahoo boy wetin happen, ogun dey kill you


You will never know peace too


Na yahoo boys be your problem, nor go face d govt,

MelesZenawi:
Yorubas and Bini are same people. So it shouldn't come as a surprise.

Ogun dey kill you

BabaRamota1980:
This is serious query. Thats how women tell which prick sweet.

Lol.... The way she popped the question changed the way the thread headed

greggng:
Assuming I 've money I for dash u....u mean dangling like he goat?

Lol

Horerku:
My dad was once sick (4years back), he was admitted at lasuth and during the time i was with him there, i tried getting medical help but it was a very regrettable experience. After using hours and days at family clinic (i get there by 7 and see doctor by 11 or 12), I was referred to their endocrine section. But the problem was first time i visit the endocrine cos they open only Tuesday and Thursday i met a doctor who examined me (in front of students o) and asked me to run some tests which amount to 45k (6 tests). I did the tests and next appointment was two weeks later. Next time i went there with the tests, i met another doctor who just browsed through my file and results and instead of prescribing drug or say u go through this treatment he wrote another test which was 65k (2 tests). I did this too and was asked to come again in 2 weeks almost 120k on test alone. Believe me you next time i went again they were on strike and the lady at the records gave me a month appointment, after the strike i went and when i will see doctor again, it was not any of the first 2 doctors �. Although this was an elderly woman, asked me questions, went through my files, checked first test results and second one, brought out one thing like big beads like this and checked my throat. After all those guess what? She asked me to go for another test again. The price of this was 145k! I was broke already i spent saving for house rent on inconclusive tests and I'm asked to go for a new one. I just kept crying in the bus till i got home cos i feel swindled and punished for what is not my fault. I tore the hospital card and never went back there. Because if the tests were that expensive how much with the treatment be? Reason I'm trying to see if i can see a private hospital doctor that will help me out. I almost ended my life after my experience at lasuth i don't if luth won't be same old story.

Did you try causing a scene in the hospital, if you dont they will toss you around, if i was you i will cause a scebe that would have drawn attention

Unified07:
Military rule is better all the infrastructures we have in this country was laid down by the military rule

Shut up, 16yrs old boy

Excuses:
Guy calm down!what has civilian rule done if not harm!

[s]Obasanjo brought-Efcc,Cct,Dstv,mobile tele-communication.common good water & electricity me nd u no get
YAr'Adua -Nddc, 7 point agenda
Good Luck -13 point agenda, 6 federal universities,boko-haram,chibog girls e.t.c
Buhari-Fake and empty promises,N-power,Corruption,Bandits,Kidnapping,insecurity..everything worst..

The great ABU,UI,UNN- were all build during the military era
The entire road net-work connecting the country from state to state were constructed during military era
Naira was strong against the dollar
There was no boko-haram & bandits.
Most major institutions agencies,parastatals were build into place..
Operation feed the nation,Green revolution etc

Mention to me the biggest strides civilian rule has brought us[/s]!

Erase this it is pointless,

If you insist then i will force my self to brief you why all you wrote up there is rubbish,

Kubernetes:
If the type of democracy we have in Nigeria is our solution,I will rather subscribe to Communism.See how china is rising to Alfa Centauri.

So it is only China you're seeing...... You supporting military equate you have little knowledge on politics, how you're just too irritational......


Please delete that idea from your mind of military rule, and stop calling fellow citizen like you bloody civilians, because those soldiers would be take on by any citizen if they have arms

Please just read more

kikero:
And you want to go back to detention without trial, to backdated decrees, to the same old looting and corruption and loan taking, to jailing people for no good reason among other things?

To newspapers being closed for months? And so on?

At least Buhari's hate speech law can be challenged in court. If it was Buhari military, would you have had the chance?

Democratic rule better. Warts and all.

Nor. Mind

tegrianonigltd:
Ghadafi gave Libyans the best of life.

Who said,

Libiya had oil, with little population, gadaffi being a Military power with so much money from oil from his country, all he did was little to camouflage his rule, so he just subsided everything and built infrastructure, there was no wealth in his country, making it look like the people wasnt poor,


The mirage is the money he had in his possession could make libya as beautiful as UAE if he wanted, he made the people lazy, he took privately shop's from other africans forcefully giving it to his lazy people, and deported the Africans

The little population and excess cash made libiya wealthy but economically was poor if dey had d population as nigeria d ugliness of libya would have beem pronounce