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babtoundey:
Who on this forum doesn't know you are a big idiot who thinks himself smart and intelligent?
Just as ogun, oya, yeepa, iyooba, Ada and other words your people share with Yoruba have different meanings as with their Yoruba meaning and original meaning, this one too must have a different meaning.

Omonoba, a child that shines.. what piece of nonsense! Why must your king be referred to as a child?
It could also mean a child that is red na. Your concoctions are becoming obsolete and redundantly boring


A child that shines
A child that is red
it is shining

Stop fighting it, the benin throne has no single yoruba bloodline stop being an history stealer for your people

Yes benins are at fault for messing up our own history , but not anymore, it was nice associating our history to the Yoruba throne for political unity and not untill you all wanted to choke us with yorubanization and tribal segregation to start stealing our past achieves then we saw, a need to retrace back our steps

We have won this fight smartly like we have always won over every yoruba subgroup we encountered before the creation of the zoo

rhektor:
By your logic ọba Ewuare was lying when he said that Oranmiyan was the first Ọba Bini?

Our oba is simply playing the political script with the Yoruba royal fathers

Something they invented to tease themselves and catch cruise

Yea he was lieing

Oromiyan never even breathed air in this earth one day not to say Oduduwa that was imagined by an oyo man

Una don dey work for effcc
Know know people

I dey buy fb account incase una won sell

I get fb dating account too

rhektor:
Ovoramen is number what in the lineage of ọba Bini?

Oga we have European discription of some obas in benin,


Stop fighting it bro....

Ovaramen is enough to tackle all your assertion


Benin-ife never existed untill after 1914

Samuel johson inventes Oduduwa from his imagination

Ifa was the original idol worshiped in ife


Oromiyan was the idols of oyo people

rhektor:
How many ọba Bini have you met?

We have pics of oba ovaramen you can go and check it out

rhektor:
Lol

Did you see tribal mark on the face of the present Ooni? Your comment about tribal mark on the face of ọba Bini is silly, no wonder Tao11 has been whipping yiur butt with different evidences. You love to cling to different inanities

They past ooni had, didnt they.....


Our oba never ever had so get sense

Olu317:
Tribal marks indeed. See serious humility . We are the plane faces who are Kings, princes, princesses .Meanwhile,I hope you remember Edo have tribal marks oooo.

And no bi Yoruba do una ooo. As simple as ABC, your king is of Oramiya heritage. Ekalederan lives on in his grave at Ughoton. The town which housed a port that brought wealth to Oba Ozolua and sons after him .

So , it is not a crime Ekalederan descendants Ohen Okun,controlled this port during the era of Oba Ozolua,whom he sent as his ambassador to Portugal with the Portuguese , Alfonso D' Aviero. Ciao

Benin never had tribal marks for face

Check the pics of oba ovaramen, along with the Chiefs who were killed in the 1897 massacre non had a tribal markings on their face neither the great grand father of governor obaseki

What benin had was tribal markings on thier bodies,

Tribal marks on the face were rrcrnt development borrowed from other tribe

This life nor reach 2seconds ooh if u think say u strong na just small knack less than a second
U don transcend chaiii

From jon hunt the grave

Make una shoot that boy for he leg, carry am enter jail like that make d leg dey rotten for e eye till him die.....


As for d papa make una give am gun make e shoot himself.....

fregeneh:
Were you've change mouth again are you not the same person that said in other tread that aworis are from benin that they followed your missing ekaladiran to ile ife, you've now realized that that your bogus lie can never stick hence your sudden three degree uturn to Dahomey

I have neve said such a thing i probable would had said aworis are not Yorubas


And i also said yorubas sub edoid tribe

Damovintrain:
What if I tell you that Ife originally is located at Kogi? And odudua was an Igala name that's Odu du WA meaning God's gifts.
hear how it started.

The so called Oduduwa was a bini Prince who had quarrels with his younger brother on who would succeed the late king their father.
The younger began to sort means of harming the elder and was overwhelming the later. So the elder decided to leave the fight and allow his brother ruling instead of shedding blood.

On his way running, he was caught by Ogala Kingdom boundary security guard.
So after asking him who he was and where he came from, he feared not to be returned back to his bini people, so he said he was God sent or from God.
So immediately, the guards rushed him to the king as he repeated the name as God sent.

After some while in Ogala now Igala Kingdom, the king gave him his daughter to marry with an allotted land to farm known as Ife.
There he bore children and feared that soon if he didn't change environment, his people would one-day know about this and come for him.

So he ran with his wife and children to the now known Ile Ife that's Ife house or home of Ife.
So meeting some Yoruba's there who were fighting war with the hope of finding a saviour, Odudua introduced himself as the sent from God.
They asked for signs to proof his claim, he took them to a mountain top and instructed a rope to come out of the sky which he told them was his means of transportation to earth. Though some believed he got these magical powers from his bini Kingdom while others held it that the Ogala people who practiced Ifa (traditional religion of sand, water and air ).

So after he lead them to battle which was won, he was installed as king.

He was ruling when the bini people learnt their king was ruling another land successfully. So they came begging he follows them back but he refused rather asked one of his sons to go on his stead who was later killed.


Till tomorrow in Ile Ife, there's a stool that no Yoruba person can sit on except a bini extract.

And only a bini person can coronate an Ife Oba...

Sorry I can't keep names and dates of this story... So no dates and names like the Ogala king,bini late king then etc

Is this what you call history theTranslator, history written with influence of expired weed

theTranslator:
this Bini guys believe that without the European's validation
there is no history

that is very dumb of you gregyboy

So wr should gather dats from thin air....


Anybody comes and form one story and call it
History


Samuel Johnson was not a European didnt i also refrence him, it is not about European or shit, is about getting possible evidence to explain history and not the history people make in their bedroom

babtoundey:
That "Omon'oba N'Edo" is even a Yoruba phrase

Omo Oba Ni Edo meaning the child of the king in Edo

Oga use your brain..... Bini languages is not yoruba so carry your yorubaistic interpretation out of here


Omo =child
No=that
Ba =shines

Omo-no-ba ( a child that shines)


Hope i wont be correcting again next month

davidnazee:
Lol.. u too funny

Nope you funny because ypu dont think, you see only what people want you to see

I read the obvious message on screenshot before i sent it, i thought you would see beyond what was written and get my message

But you still need to be spoon fed


I pity the benins of this generation

Even to defend the history our ancestor made they cant....


If i was select true binis people like ur kind would be out listed

AdnanBnB:
Sardauna was a great man and a leader.
Nigeria is paying the Price now for killing them by the Biafrans then.

Pay which thing go see down, e good as dem knife am self if not e for dey plan to contest for presidency after buhari uselessness of a rule

Tuface get printer for prick

My conclusion

Dtruthspeaker:
I

Mmmh! Mmmh!

My spirit is moving! What has your dad done? What does he know? There must be a Cause!

Have you heard about the "the Curse Causeless"?

This is not Schizo, but I'm no doctor. But my spirit is moving

Craze men

MejiLoyon:
Sometime last year in Winnetka there was a shooting. Just a random gunshot. Till today we don't know who fired that shot. Cop cars racing to the scene didn't even hesitate to pull over and asked us to lie on the ground. Even a fellow black like me dey among them. Wetin we do them no gree talk. Another shot rang out in the distance them no leave us. Another set of police cars dey pas come join us there. Them dey shoot for front na we dem say make we lie down. Because say we put hand for pocket dey feel oyinbo breeze. My hand still carries the mark of that incident. If say them leave me and then no weapon. All those obloblo oyinbo go collect. That day na him me sef use style hate them. I no go lie. I see them as soaked meat. I hate them die. But Wetin me sef find go obloblo country. It is well

Why u dey call them soak meet because them fat abi

davidnazee:
Your screenshot says it was probably a spelling error by Egharevba. The event described there happened 300yrs after Ewuare, i don't think he would intentionally distort something so glaring.

Thw scholar was defending it but if you go through the entire article ypu will see how desperate egharevba was and i believed he did it, to initially distort it

What spelling error could it be that was a lame excuse

davidnazee:
Well your approach (passionate and hot tempered) probably is not the best way.. like samuk said, a gentle approach is better..
Even if we say Oduduwa is a myth due to our research don't forget our Oba says he existed and was an Edo prince before he became Oduduwa.. so a lot of Edos will believe that too..

Definitely history is research even if every detail of a particular event was writing down you need to still explain why some people those historical decisions they took

So history is research itself

I would have been gentle to the guy but he insulted me openly.. And rubbished my integrity

davidnazee:
You are getting it wrong.. A greater percentage of Edos never believe or think the Oba of Benin to be Yoruba or descendant of Yoruba man.

Thats true...


Probably i should have said that to the yorubas

davidnazee:
Be careful how you explain your opinion of Edo history so as not to get confused.
If you say Ekaladeran's father was an Oba and Eweka was the first Oba, then you mean Eweka predates Ekaladeran?

Eweka predates Ekaladeran yes he does


Ekaladerhan history only came out in the 1900, when a European on the origin of ughton


It was never an important history to the benins

Ekaladerhan history from what i have researched has nothing to do with eweka1

The mixup was done by oba erediawa who tried to connect indepedent Ekaladerhan history to the first oba of benin eweka


When they initially narrated Ekaladerhan history they never associated it with any oba they only said he was a prince, it could be a son of an enogie, but it wasnt specified which king he was

Ekaladerhan history could not even be related to eweka or the oba of benin kingship probably he was a duke prince

This are the possibilities

Around the 16century benin said they migrated from the east


Eweka history when it was initially told to roupell in 1897 teo months before benin fell to the British never had anything to do with Ekaladerhan, oromiyan Oduduwa

This were new inventions after amalgamation

Am tired of typing bro, if u need us to talk drop your number we go use voice note

Or you go and be doing private research yourself abd be looking for ancient benin quote given by binis to europeans talking about their entity and kingship

davidnazee:
You are right bro.. the Oduduwa story was something i always wondered about because it never adds up.. when it was pointed out as a recent narrative and after much reading it still doesn't add up and worse still it isn't even logical..
Even when the chief at Ughoton told the Portuguese about the Ogane from the East, he would have easily added that the Ogane and the Oba were descendants of same ancestor or Oduduwa but that wasn't said which makes the Oduduwa story more unbelievable..

Also when the Alaffin told the Europeans about his "friend" the Oba of Benin he could have proudly said they were Oduduwa's descendants but he didn't say that.

Bottomline is that, all the writings about Edo and Yoruba history from pre 1900s already proves Oduduwa is a myth. If he wasn't mentioned in any of the hundreds of ancient writings we have then he didn't exist.

If you check my very first comment on this thread i made a comment that the oba is playing politcs here with Oduduwa history

Not untill the fezz guy attacked me that he has been watching me closely that i have been distorting benin history because am i afraid to debate the yorunas so i took a different approach saying oduduwa didn't exist


I don beg am make he vist my profile make e enlightening himself but no veil, if he was a yoruba guy i for don curse sense enter e brain

Kobojunkie:
There is no such thing as a generational curse
... Ezekiel 18

I dont believe it either

davidnazee:
Bro i don't make up stories like the Yorubas ooo..
Just like you, i read a lot and have come across many writings about Edo history, i never saved any of them because i wasn't on nairaland then..

One writing described Igodomigodo as a union of clans whose rulers were called Ogisos. The title was rotational amongst the various clans and the last Ogiso (Owodo) wanted his son Ekaladeran to be the next ogiso as against the norm.. It says Ekaladeran was a handsome prince and was much loved by the people (especially those of his clan Efa).
Owodo's wife was against Ekaladeran becoming the next Ogiso and this made her lie against him resulting in his banishment by his father.

I read this narrative long ago though i didn't think much of it then and couldn't verify it was a true account but it does make sense and logical..

I also read in an article that described the coming of Eweka that says; "when eweka came to benin he moved from village to village, where the people were weak he fought them and captured them, if they were strong he talk gently to them and won them over."

So my bro, we have all come across many writings about Benin history, we have to filter the rubbish (like the Yoruba stories) and research on the logical and sensible ones..

Stay blessed.

I know that particular quote TAO11 once referenced it and i have it on one of my thread

That qoute was made in early 1900 probably 1908, when the europeans enquired about the history of ughton
And they talked about prince Ekaladerhan established ughton how he was banished and he came back fighting fod the throne

That bolded quote was later distorted fdom Ekaladerhan and iweka was used to replace Ekaladerhan in the statement

Like the way egharevba distorted this quote in my screenshot read my scfeenshot carefully

samuk:
We shouldn't loose our authentic history and at same time should be able to play politics.

When the Europeans first visited Nigeria in the 1400s, they met the Oba of Benin as the most powerful ruler, up till and beyond 1826.

When the British finally arrived the hinterland of Yoruba in 1826 they met the Alaafin as the leader of the Yoruba people. The Alaafin told the British that he still relied on the Oba of Benin for military assistance.

Between 1826 to 1960 the Ooni was politically created and elevated above the Alaafin and the Oba of Benin in the western region by those that taught they were clever.

The Oba of Benin has been fighting back since then.

Yea i know the politcs behind it, i personally unraveled it, here on Nairaland

But the truth must be let out first before anything

If we keep silent and play along the politcs we will join the elite fooling everyone and endup distorting our history beyound itself....

There be more harm if we keep silent

I just want to go with the enlightenment before anything else, let the people decide if they want to play d politcs after hearing the truth

samuk:
As the Oduduwa narrative gains ground, Benin whose history is linked with it most take ownership of the narrative for future generations. You can't leave it in the hands of the Yorubas. Oduduwa political history was designed to steal Benin history.

We were told christianity was started in Israel by a jew called jesus christ. The Romans who saw the future 2000 years ago decided to use their power and influence to take ownership of christianity, that is why the Pope, a European has always been the holiest Christian and the vertical the head of christianity. Even the Jews that should ordinarily own christianity are vilified as the ones that killed Jesus.

There is politic is everything, religion, history etc. Those that are clever enough to take early ownership of such political processes are those that will reap the future benefit. Imagine how much Rome/vertical earns today from tourism and from Catholic churches across the world, the catholic church remains the most powerful, richest and most influential Christian denomination in the world because their early leaders were visionary that saw the future and took ownership of a Jewish made religion and prophet.

The political history of Oduduwa is a competition between the Oba of Benin and Ooni of Ife, the price is millions of devoted followers who are currently being social engineered to believe the narrative, fairytale or not.

This is similar to how major religious were formed.

The Benins should know their history and at the same time not give grounds to any group/tribes to create a political history out of Benin authentic history and then take ownership of it to the detriment of our future generations.

I am such if you get the politics of it the way I do, you will not be so vexed. See it as a win win, it doesn't stop you from researching into the authentic history of Benin. The Benin have an unparalleled advantage over anyone else in Nigeria when it comes to history, we have to be tactical about it otherwise others will steal it through the back door. We have to be watchful.

Have you not noticed how the wind have been taken away from TAO11 and her Yoruba compatriot sails/arguments.

I get your point my fear is distortion on our dear historical past

You know what it took us last year to find the truth, when we were on our phones 24hrs debating this particular topic we went from arguing from the myth to seeing the actual truth and accepting it

And i took it to myself to enlighten people am not going to do it forever

I just want the edos to know ghe truth and then they can decided to choose to accept the political play,
Fooling the people blindly is something i wont support

The palace should come clean about this fact


Am attacking the fezz guy, because he attacked me first with dirty statement

Atlesst i have a reserved happiness our oba is not of any yoruba blood and if he was i wpuld also have no choice to happy and defend the truth thats who i am

Mrskillz1:
I'm feeling the drastic action I should take should involve fixing the root cause rather than preventing them from birthing.

I wish there's someone that can see into the past and tell me how it all began, then I'll know where to channel my energy to.
If someone placed the curse, then we can appeal.

What if it is not a curse but a genetic disorder, like everyother genetic malfunctions

There is a case of a boy when he eats startchy food, he starts acting strange like he is on weed, a youngboy was till in primary school, and this boy becomes violent after eating any startchy food.. Unkowningly to his parents

Not untill they advised the mother to see a psychologists who later told his mother that the boys condition was a medical disorder and that starch food makes him high because is body is unable to break down starch to energy
And so on....

The mom took note and she saw changes after
She adjustdd his diet

Things like this are body disorders i really dont want you to loose yourself to scammsrs in the aim of finding solutions..

I have seen pastors and men of God ripped my aunt of her money because of fertility issues

But do your best and be wise too

Please also consider the listed drastic actions by not putting another generation into pains

Am sorry am sounding this way dont feel offended i know its not easy

Fezz:
Kindly give the name of the publisher of this article you posted with detailed reference.

From your statement starting from your second paragraph I'm 100% sure you are not a Benin man. You are probably from Ph or probably akwa Ibom. You are just intrigued about Benin history and that's why you want to know more.

All Benin scholars on this blog have tried to advise you on the right path to follow but you have turned a blind eye. Samuk adviced you just 2 days ago as well. I wash my hands off you. Cheers!

Bro am trying to educate you you should thank me for it

You really didnt get the message samuk was passing did you misinterpreted it


When youre done researching benin history go and research yoruba history thoroughly

Only then you will be wise


Youre not attacking me with evidence because you dont have any upstair on a norms i wouldn't be debating you, but what do i know i might be educating someone who is following up silently

Mrskillz1:
I am from a family of three. I have two brothers. One older and the other younger than me so I'm the only girl in my family.

I grew up seeing my Mom mad.
By my teen age, I got admission into Nnamdi Azikiwe University alongside my elder brother who was to study Engineering. By the time I was in my finals, my brother was getting ready for IT. One day, his roommate sent for me, he said they couldn't sleep the night before because my brother was talking to himself. Before we knew what was happening, my brother was getting violent and so we took him home and he never got back to finish school.
I proceeded with my education and finished. Went for NYSC. While serving the nation, My Mom died. When I got home, she'd been buried.
But my brother was still mad.

I later got job, took my brother to a Psychiatric hospital and the doctor after examining him said he is Schizophrenic. He was asked to stay in the hospital.
I paid. He then stayed there for one month. When I came to visit him, he pleaded with me to take him home that he didn't like it there.

So I took him home. Every month, I buy drugs for him and he gets injected. He usually puts up a fight but with the help of my younger brother, neighbors and a certain nurse, he receives the injection, forcefully and against his will.
Often times, he pleads with me not to inject him, the very time I obliged him, he scattered things, didn't allow the neighborhood sleep, talked throughout some nights and wouldn't eat sometimes. He looked really sick then but with the injection, one will hardly know he's not normal.
I told him that I won't let him miss his injection ever again.

Now, on Monday, my younger brother woke up and was unusually quiet. He normally wakes up and begins to play music with his phone or he will turn to football channel and watch until I leave for work. But I didn't go to work on Monday and I noticed he was quiet, then I asked him why he's quiet. He didn't respond. After some hours, I asked my Dad if he feels he's okay, My Dad said that he wants to be quiet and that I should let him be.

Then, that night, around 4am, my brother began to talk. He was shouting and some of the things he said were not coherent. He talked out of point. I and my Dad, with my elder brother surrounded him and I couldn't help crying when my Dad was cautioning him to keep quiet and he refused.
Neighbours thought it was my elder brother's voice they'd heard that night but by the time they heard in the morning that it was my younger brother, they visited my Dad in the evening. By then, my brother was still talking and even burnt his clothes yesterday.
My Dad got a few guys to chain him because he was violent yesterday when I left the house.
I know the problem is spiritual. I have prayed, fasted for my elder brother and now this!
I'm so unhappy.

Can someone suggest a place I can take my two brothers to so they can be cured, please.

This renowed pastors are fake just forget about them, apostle Suleman i have seen him one on one in his church at his hometown in auchi edo state

He performs magic and nothing more

If you want to waste your time and effort go to auchi in edo state he always holds programne every last Friday of the month in auchi there

You will see him live....

I would have advised you to save the stress but not trying at all will leave you many doubt too

So if you wanna try religiously atleast just try 2 renowed pastors if it doesn't work don't stress yourself further


This illness i believe it is genetic and a mental disorder the best thing you can do to humanity or to the family is dont allow it spread to any other generation from your brothers

You can have children yourself but always have it in mind you may transfer it to your own children but to reduce maximum damage
Your two brothers must not procreate


Life is unfair sometimes and if there is a need to take drastic actions then we will take it

Dem nor beat am nawa oo

Fezz:
You are unbelieviable. If you are so vast in Benin history, mention the Oba that invented the Adah and Eben. Or do you think they fell from the sky. Learn history from your elders and stop assuming. You are assuming alot and it is not good for your reputation in here.

Secondly, what was the name of Ekalaredan's father since you say his father is an oba ?

In other threads you keep on saying egharevba distorted Benin history for personal gains, but when it concerns the Ogisos you never stop quoting egharevba's work. Isn't this funny

Now that particular quote i refrecend egharevba on

Were egharevba said ogiso ruled when there was no moon or sun

That particular quote was not original from egharevba that quote was gitten from Benin in 16Ad in the oba palace by a ethnography who visited the palace

Egharevba just referenced it, and i was unable ti find the original quote that's why i used that of egharevba

Fezz:
You are unbelieviable. If you are so vast in Benin history, mention the Oba that invented the Adah and Eben. Or do you think they fell from the sky. Learn history from your elders and stop assuming. You are assuming alot and it is not good for your reputation in here.

Lol, you couldn't attack me properly


Ooh sometimes l like debating tao11 tho she is a lier but she doesn't ask foolish questions abd she always bring something new to the table untill recently



Lol, again were you there when the ogiso invented the adah and eben, is it the benin elders that couldn't count how many obas have ruled them and the age they ruled that
You want me to take history from


Do you know that esekhure went to copy the nanes of the kinglist from egharevba when they were initially compiling the list


Go and read benin kinglist chronology
Search and read dont remain ignorant free yourself


So because some benin chiefs said so you believed its true

Did you even see my egharevba screenshot were he clearly stated the ogiso ruled when there was ni sun or moon

My screenshot now shows esekure consulting egharevba when he was compiling his kinglist if benin past rulers for the British, he had to go and spy from egharevba to compile his, someone egharevba ought to be consulting was now consulting egharevba

Oga youre ignorant and proud and that alone disgust me about you