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Lexusgs430:
I have not said you should sue, but simply creating awareness of an alternative device. Rather than tie a patient, like a criminal..........

so you now agree there are alternative devices. I thought you said restraint is bad. All they need to do is assign four hefty nurses to hold him down and observe him according to you. Anyway, if we are living in a village and we don't have your alternative device....should we just allow the patient to keep pulling the tubes or is it still abuse if we restrain them? Nigerians and over sabi

Your description of Petersburg reminds me of the world cup....I had an amazing two weeks in Petersburg with my wife.

Lexusgs430:
Read this slowly......

No. You go back and read it slowly. You need to put your over Sabi to one corner. Yes. You can be sued if you restrained a patient against their wish. So, what is the wish of this unconscious patient? Who told you the family members didn't give informed consent before restraint? Moreso, you said most states have laws governing restraint...yes, just follow the law. It means you can restrain somebody once the law of a particular state is followed....so what don't you understand there?

NB.....you even said they are sued because they didn't take precautions not because they restrained patient.....so before you restrain a patient...take precautions, documents reasons and consent if any taken.

Lexusgs430:
So do we accept you also screenshot jargons..........

the screenshot is enough to tell you that up till today, some patients are placed under physical restraint in UK and it is allowed. Even in USA. The screenshot is from NHS . That is all that matters. Meanwhile, the circumstances of this patient is different from UK so all your MCA jargon is irrelevant to this particular patient but every country... including UK adopts physical restraint occasionally

Lexusgs430:
Let me school you, just a little bit.....


Was that patient under any MCA protocol, when he was restrained?


Don't just screenshot and post legislations, without understanding the content of the legislation..... Even patients under MCA, would never have limbs tied......

you are talking jargons. This patient is in Ukraine so what MCA protocol are you talking about ?

Lexusgs430:
Do you practice within the NHS sector?.....

what has this gotten to do with the fact that even in UK and indeed all over the world, some circumstances warrant physical restraint either in emergency or psychiatry. However, the restraint must not be punitive, must be proportional to the degree of damage or danger the patient will pose to self or others.....and even if you don't believe in such practice, since it is not illegal in ukraine, you can't call it abuse simply because it is against your own practice. Moreso, it is not every facility that have enough manpower to assign two nurses to be monitoring a patient in a busy ward. Reality in practice in understaffed setting means something like this is inevitable. By the way, it is not illegal in ukraine so

Lexusgs430:
Not in the United Kingdom...... Simply because, it's a form of abuse.........

lies. This is from NHS. There are some patient that must restrained simple.

orunmila144:
true. in eastern europe they are poor so they use more barbaric methods like tying you to the bed.

ok

orunmila144:
its a 3rd world country

They use physical restraint all over the world including America.

Lexusgs430:
What the hospital should have done, rather than tie him down. Was put him on close supervision........

Physically restricting a patient, is bad practice....... Not to talk of placing ropes on all his limbs and knotting him in bed.......

So after putting him on close observation and he keeps removing it what do you do? They didn't tie him to bed...they were restraining him

Lexusgs430:
Did you say nursing precaution? It's abuse.... Pure and simple.........

That's called physical restraint in medical parlance. And someone was educating you you were still saying it is abuse. Since the guy was not conscious, he would be trying to remove anything that was making him uncomfortable subconsciously including oxygen tubes etc so you physically restrain them.

He collected money from APC alone to bring down Jonathan via Sahara reporters in 2015. So me wey no collect money should go and face bullet for him. Revolution ko, evolution ni

MrPresident1:
When you wake up from the dead you will understand.

present yourself at Yana left

MrPresident1:
RoshHashanah is the beginning of the Bible year

Rosh Hashanah 2019 will begin in the evening of

Sunday, 
29 September, 2019

and ends in the evening of

Tuesday, 
1 October, 2019

you may actually need help. People that are frustrated with life are always hoping the world will quickly end so they start imagining things and start hearing voices. Later it develops to full fledged schizophrenia. Please seek help. Don't be ashamed to meet with a psychiatrist and discuss your problem. Most times, if the world don't end on 30th, you may commit suicide. Please, please...you really need help

Afroresorts:
Any idea on any school and courses. ?

You don't really need this. You don't have to be spoon-fed. They have told you some schools accept. If I were you, by now I will know all the schools. You rarely need more than five hours on the internet to get the full gist. After all, you are an intending student. Don't be afraid to Google and research things for yourself. The journey is long so you need to be independent. Seek for guidance but research yourself.

jossy26:
Thanks for the heads up..as of now no response yet from the email shared..have tweeted at them again this morning waiting for their response. Last I heard yesterday was that booklets have finished again..that's why I was asking for the PCO number..frustrating to say the least

eeyah...so sorry. I just felt it won't be right dropping the phone number of PCO on a public forum. That will be irresponsible of me

jossy26:
Bro/sis I understand your message but you quick to judge..have been on their Twitter page even before coming here dont know if the guy handling the page selects people he responds to cos he doesn't reply my message..I sent a tweet again today up till this moment no response. I paid 45k to the agent for fast track he picks my call anytime but it's one story to the other. So how you can help me now is to pls share the number of the PCO since you have it..I beg you to pls share......thanks

Send an e mail to this e mail address. Be respectful, mention the name and the phone number of the agent . Tell them you need urgently and the agent collected money from you. Also send them your enrollment number. You will get your passport in 24hrs.
nis.reformchampion@immigration.gov.ng.

jossy26:
If only I had gone through this route instead of being stucked in this abeokuta shit...so annoying it's a month now still no passport

You just kept saying same thing. Your question here helped me too and I was surprised you didn't act on the tip transformium gave you. Let me tell you my own. I went to renew at Abeokuta six weeks ago with my wife. I did it all online myself for both of us. We paid 17k online each. I went to the cyber cafe in Abeokuta and bought files and did it. Same day I did capturing with my wife. We went back two weeks later only to be told it was not ready. So I now said let us fast track since we needed it urgently. I met one officer, we negotiated to pay 12k each per person making 24k for it to come out the following day. I paid him. The following day, I was already on my way back to Abeokuta when the guy called me and said no materials. I kept my cool. He kept saying no paper today, machine spoilt tommorrow, only 64 pages is available but I was following your update with that of transformium. Then on Thursday, I saw his update where he said he got his own. That was when I called the guy and he still said same story. That was how I went to the Twitter handle of immigration like transformium suggested. I told them the guy collected money from me after I did it online and he kept giving me stories. Guess what? They called Abeokuta all the way from Abuja. The main PCO at Abeokuta called me by 1pm and begged me on phone and said if I could come down with my wife same day but I told them till Monday. I went there with my wife yesterday, they quickly gave us the passport and the PCO collected our 24k from the guy and gave it back to us. You are the one that asked transformium and you didn't follow his advice. I was like a big boss yesterday. We were ushered like VIP into the PCO office, the mumu guy was standing behind us while the PCO lambasted him. Go to their Twitter handle. It works like magic and I even collected my money back

Spicey2019:
Please avoid ARABIAN FALCON HOLIDAYS IN DUBAI!

Our family arrived at the Dubai airport and we met them. They approached us and started advertising their strategy to us.

We were smarter than they were. God saved us and it was our first time in Dubai!!

They are scammers and these group of people target only Nigerians.


Do not be a victim!!

Be warned.

. lol. They are not scammers. Just learn how to say no to them. I met them about two years ago in Dubai at the airport. They gave my wife and I a Dubai SIM and helped us. They even helped us to call our hotel we would be checking in late. So I was impressed because I didn't know them before They now told us to come for a seminar that they would give us a free trip. Well, we had a week to spend so we attended. They told us at the seminar to buy a flat in Jumeirah and we must deposit immediately. I told them no. They did everything possible and I said no. THEY STILL PAID FOR MY DESERT SAFARI FOR TWO IN DUBAI for attending the meeting. They gave us a slip and the driver came to pick us from our hotel and took us into the desert for the Safari. So, learn how to say no. They are selling all those properties in Dubai that you will be paying monthly.

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pulsa:
fixed make una no mind me oh I just had to join in

. Lol. I understand jare. However, from primary to tertiary institution he must have attended more than one school so the Grammar is still correct.

NB
THAT IS ASSUMING HE COMPLETED HIS BASIC EDUCATION SO YOU MAY BE RIGHT.

Angelfrost:
Awwww.... How bruised is that fragile, albeit over-bloated ego? My very insincere apologies. Thank God for my "poverty", and stay blessed with your "wealth".

Seriously though, devote a little time out of your busy "money-making" schedule to work on your writing skills (A key part of communication). It was unduly tasking trying to make sense out of all that "corrective wisdom" up there.

It's been a rare privilege gleaning so much from your vast "knowledge". Now, you can ease up on all that tension in your head, and enjoy the rest of your evening.

Don't worry. I will work on my writing skills. Although, I can understand why it is so difficult for you to understand the simple English I wrote there. Your lack of proper education will obviously impede your comprehension skills. And we may have to blame your inability to attend good schools for that. Please, don't do same to your innocent children. That your parents were too poor to send you to good schools is not enough to punish your innocent children. Oya get the Bleep off my mention and go and make money.

Angelfrost:
Sigh... If this is all you could surmise from everything I posited, then I really can't help your poor comprehension...

But, for the sake of clarity, note the following:

1. I never said it was bad or such a terrible thing to put kids in such schools if you are predisposed to (look up the meaning of predisposition), hence, my use of the phrase "demand and supply".
2. It is true that certain individuals sent to such expensive schools come out successful. It's however very fallacious to claim all kids sent to such schools always come out successful in life, or more successful than those from lower schools.
3. Are all students and alumni of the schools under discourse under paid tuition? Are there no scholarship grants?
4. To your rather poor allusion to local schools, yes I would if their academic standard is worthy.
5. This is social media, and it's quite puerile to tell someone you don't know that he is poor. You have no factual inkling of my financial status, hence you have no basis to second guess me.
6. Finally, you will probably disagree, and further try to stretch your limited reasoning on this broad subject of life... Please, don't bother! It will definitely miss its mark.

P.S: For a person who claims to be well read, wealthy, and exposed, your writing skills border on the semi-literate, and pedestrian.

Do have a good evening.

I know where it will end. People like you with nothing upstairs end up correcting grammar. Read the rubbish you wrote up there and you have the boldness to be correcting grammar on social media. I don't need to know you physically to know that you are poor. At least, you have the mental state of a poor man and you can't be richer than your state of mind. In fact, it is so obvious you are trying too hard to write correct English with your over punctuation etc. Too many errors. 'under paid tution' ...what the hell is that? Under paying since you included present students. What is scholarship grants? Scholarship is scholarship. Grant is grant. And who told you everyone attending expensive schools comes out successful in life. But it gives them a better start and that is the most important thing that is required from a parent. The rest is left for the child. And please, your argument is shallow and you are proud at the same time. People that come to social media to correct English are the least exposed I've ever seen in life. My child just gained admission to a secondary school in Europe. English is not the main language of instruction in that school but students are fluent in English, french and at least German or Spanish.
Who told you English is a measure of literacy? Go out. In Japan, you have the best doctors, engineers etc in Asia and they learnt it in there local Japanese language. That is what I am saying about people like you. You know nothing about education. You are mistaken English and literacy for each other in one sentence. That singular fact is enough to tell you to raise money for your kids to attend such schools under discourse so they will have proper exposure and stop this ignorance of equating Grammar to sound education.

Angelfrost:
My good sir... You just erred greatly in your assumptions. First off, I schooled in a public school not because my parents couldn't afford private education... Secondly, I am extremely successful and wealthy for my age and time, which had nothing to do with my background. Infact, a lot of those kids from those posh schools are struggling today as adults, which greatly faults your "inter-connection" line of reasoning...

Now, let me drop some real education into you:...

1. Background (poor or wealthy) is nothing if one lacks the mentality and vision of greatness. Ask Bill Gates. Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, etc... Please, stop miseducating young people.
2. Intelligence transcends formal education, hence, my initial point.
3. I agree with connecting with wealthy people to learn their secrets, but that is not limited to anyone's background... Truth be told, internet and social media have gone a long way in bridging that ancient divide. Please, keep with the times., except you are from the backward North.
4. Finally, there is no limitation in life whatsoever... The only limitation is YOU.

Please, read carefully... And let me know if you require further clarification. Thank you.

you have said nothing that we all don't know already. But even in America, out of all those people you mentioned.... Bill gates went to havard. He may not finish there but to gain admission to havard will tell you something. Jeff bezos went to princeton, another ivy League. Zuckerberg started Facebook first to connect classmates in havard. Obama was in havard. He influenced his child to same school. Now you may say you can enter havard on scholarship, yes but we are in nigeria and the meaning is you need a lot of money to get that kind of education. Now to the most exclusive school in the world....LE- ROSEY IN SWITZERLAND. This is a school for billionaires. Kings send there kids there all the way from Saudi to UK etc. They park helicopters like cars during holidays. Guess what? No known rosean as they called themselves can be jobless in any country. As an alumni, you are Inna club of billionaires. Google is your friend. How much is the school fees? About 150k dollars per session. Roughly about 50 million naira. So let me school you further....we all know that you don't always need rich parent to make it but they can make your journey faster especially if you are intelligent. Our vice president is presently in Birmingham....celebrating the graduation of his son. So why not send the boy to EDE POLY since you don't need expensive education? And stop deceiving yourself....you are not rich. If not, you won't say a school fees of 5k dollars is too expensive when havard collects as high as 40k dollars

Angelfrost:
No demand, no supply... Vice versa. If there weren't vain parents with such excesses, such schools won't exist. I have no issue with this, it's every where in the world...

The only sad irony is that such fees don't guarantee your children success in life, especially in a country like Naija... But, then again, anyone who has such loose change probably can afford to relocate the child beyond these shores for a better life.

Realistically, I won't spend such even if I have it. For basic education? to what end? To prove what exactly?... we used to beat those wealthy kids from the best schools back then in quizzes and debates, including science competitions.

Think about it. You used to beat those wealthy kids from best schools in those days. Meaning as a kid, you were not among the wealthy kids and now as a parent, you are not even among rich parents.You know why? This your mentality. Those kids foundations are being laid by inter connection with fellow rich kids from day 1. Later on, they will marry themselves and give themselves contract. Education is not just the 2+2 competition you used to do....that will only require intelligence. The other part is exposure. You may beat them in maths but they are more exposed than you . Break the curse for your kids bro.

OP and seun should take down this post for security reason. Imagine giving kidnappers a free info that for your child to attend that school, you can afford 2million school fees. And they use school bus!!! You are exposing these pupils to unnecessary security risk.

bro4u:
Lols, hate which guys? So you tagged me one because of me being inquisitive?? You funny oo, btw what concerns me and CRUTECH

lol. Never mind me jare. Though your question was suspicious and repeatedly too many. And these guys combined with herdsmen and Buhari are undoubtedly making like difficult for Nigerians.

bro4u:
Hmmm... So which group is responsible for the killing now??

You have asked this question more than ten times. You dey fear maybe na your hitmen go do am and you never confirm. You better stay away from school for now make we no dey write RIP for you too soon. Don't join cult you no go hear . You go come dey ask foolish questions for nairaland. I hate you guys

seunmsg:
18 years.

lies. Age of consent in Kwara state is 16yrs

Omar09:
Oga do you even hear yourself speak? Do you know someone can sue for committing slander? Even if it's true but you don't have proof to back what you are accusing someone of it automatically becomes a slander which is a big law suit in court.

Not true. That there is no strong evidence does not mean it is a lie. Therefore, fatoyinbo can't win the libel suit easily. The court would hold that there is no enough evidence to convict fatoyinbo neither is there any strong evidence that it is a lie. Therefore, the court won't grant him any compensation..