₦airaland Forum

MaziOmenuko:
My dear, you are not making much sense. You don't appreciate the significance of a supreme court rulling. I didn't say the JW won't drag people to court anymore; I am saying that no court will entertain such cases. Of course you will be heard, but the case will be thrown off for lack of merit. That is if monetary awards are not giving against you for wasting the time of the courts and the defendants.

you are funny. Court will entertain any case regardless of judicial precedence. They may follow precedence when delivering judgement but the case can still take another 20yrs before supreme Court will even have chance to reaffirm it's judgement. And no two cases are exactly similar so the lawyers will always capitalize on the little difference to say the case is different from the one supreme Court earlier decided on. Most people assume court is straightforward, get there first and you will understand when the lawyers start twisting Cases. It is never worth it

NB...what are we even saying. You have agreed with me by saying they will be heard. So that solves it. They will be heard...and it maybe in another 22yrs before the case will be decided again during which you will be spending money, time and putting your practice under avoidable scrutiny. While I am not saying the supreme won't help if you have such cases, I am so sure no experienced doctor in private practice without the support of a giant like Chevron will try to be playing heroism by insisting on blood transfusion when the parent are saying no. Take their consent and refer. Nobody will blame you. It is done Everytime in private practice

TheGiftedOne:
I'd rather you shut tha hell up. Common Sect from set you cannot differentiate.

common 'the' you can't differentiate from 'tha'. Idiot

Just2endowed2:
and your license might be withdrew and a good lawyer will sue you base on the law of precedent that is now a law provided that another third party was ready to pay the bill but you were following parent advise.

you don't know anything about medicine. A doctor has right to reject patient too and refer to another place. And maybe you didn't read well....they needed a court injuction first before transfusion. There are several judicial precedence concerning Jehovah's witnesses... no doctor is obliged to transfuse if the parent insist unless you just want to....nobody can sue you if you refer the baby and take informed consent.

MaziOmenuko:
You don't understand the premise of this rulling. A supreme court ruling is as good as a constitution, binding to everyone. So when next such a case happens, the hospital involved will just proceed on administrating the blood to the child, with this rulling as a backup. No lower court will entertain another complaint from any JW parents since the supreme court has decided on this already.

lies. Supreme Court judgement can be interpreted anyhow by court. This is just a judicial precedence meaning it can only help your case if you are in court for a similar case but it won't prevent you from being sued. And remember, Jehovah witness is a stubborn set. Even if the case is straight forward, they will still take you to court for transfusing their sect members and will still pursue the case to the supreme Court. Wether you win or not is Immaterial, the stress, the money and the time and the emotional trauma that you will pass through will be too much . Moreso, remember the baby didn't die yet they took them to court. Imagine after transfusion the baby still dies.... creating another scenario. They will now say even with the blood the baby died.... meaning the blood was not necessarily what would save the baby etc. There are too many scenarios in law and medical practice, a doctor should play safe and smart so they won't use you as a scapegoat

passwelle:
This ruling should now be publicized such that all Hospitals know what to do.

Hahaha....it only worked because it was Chevron hospital. The doctors had to inform the commissioner of police. The police had to quickly go to court to get exparte order before transfusion. Don't forget the parent won't pay for the blood. Now the aftermath....they were in court for 22yrs. How many such cases do you want to do before you die? Remember the parent we're not the one sponsoring the case... it is the religious sect. Bottom line is this....no single private hospital will take such risk. If Jehovah witness want to kill their children by refusing blood....I will gladly oblige them after counseling than going to court for 22yrs

Donald3d:

I got married recently, I am probably much younger than you are, I was practically in your shoes .
I wouldn't want to give to much details, because privacy is important, but I would say this :
No matter what happens, stand your ground, there is only so much resistance a father can give no matter how strict he is or thinks he is .
I didn't give her belle, I married her because she was a gem I couldn't afford to lose.The kind of girl you only see in fairy tales .
If your wife to be is that kind of girl, don't lose her because of your father's decision.You would regret it for the rest of your life. Just be sure she is worth the fight, if she is. STAND YOUR GROUND.You are a man .

Try and find diplomatic ways to resolve it, pray also a whole lot, you have no idea how much prayers can move mountains.Every man has a weak point, find your father's weak point and use it against him, play the fool if you have to and at the end of the day the end goal is getting your wife.

If the drama gets too much she might leave you, trust me, women don't like too much drama no matter how much they love you, especially in this case when she has been with you this long.

If your father is still "doing strong head", please go to your in-laws collect the list and pay her dowry . You already said they trust you. She is marrying you and not your father, from what you said, its not like he doesn't like the girl, he just wants to be stubborn. But I know he would come around, find his weak point and use it against him and win him over, that's what I did.

Don't suffer a life time of regret losing the love of your life because you couldn't stand up to your father.This is one of of your first tests of being a true man.Please pass it
Marriage26

UPDATE : Since you are Christian consider this bible passage. I reminded myself of it almost everyday :
The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will. Prov 21 VS 1
Make sure you and bae pray and fast fervently together. No battle is insurmountable as long as the person no be God, there is a solution.

You got married recently so you don't even know the kind of wife you see in fairytale. Ninety percent of marriages are like heaven on Earth the first year. You can only tell us your experience after at least 10yrs . I wish you marital bliss though but it is too early to know wether your wife was indeed worth the fight

DaInferno:
am ashamed of you

Be ashamed of your hypocrisy. People like you will be caught pant down with your underage maid all in a bid to appear innocent. Pussy is part of nature as long as blood is running in your vein.

MikeBetty:
For The Shallow Minded. That Is Why Beauty Without Brain, The Pussy Suffers. Sorry Na Pussy Take Astronomers To The Moon. Shebi Na Pussy Manufactured Apple, Samsung And Other Gadgets.

without that pussy, the brain of those guy that manufactured the so called Apple may not function properly. After working hard, you need a pussy to unwind. Last last....pussy is as important as the brain. Several people considered to be genius and powerful have fallen on the alter of pussy. Respect pussy....don't also neglect your brain. They complement each other

aku626:
Nothing but the obvious. Before we have the silly one derail this thread with their biased, tribalistic and religious opinions.
A thorough thought and you realize that this people are in this position because of a failing country as well as just being plain foolish

A thorough thought and you realize that you are a potential thief and a potential candidate for death sentence. Every criminal will have excuse for their crime. Now you have gotten your own excuse to go earn a legitimate death sentence.....A failed country!!! You can equally be foolish in addition. I hate people like you who provides excuses for criminals. Check them well they are usually potential criminals

RichBoy247:
Avoid Saraki's troubles. Throughout the four years that Saraki usurped the Senate Presidency, Saraki never slept with any of his eyes closed. Both of his eyes were opened always even when he was sleeping. It was four years of troubles, different court cases, police harassment, DSS invasion, fellow Senators revote, always one trouble or the other. Why go through all the trouble when you can respect the party's position and be in peace with everybody? At the end of the day, Saraki is not returning to the Senate and his puppet too did not win the governorship, not even one Assembly seat was won by Saraki group. Ndume, be warned.

And you think this is advice? One hundred years from now, history will always remember Saraki as a Senate president. All those travails will no longer be remembered. Even Tinubu will only be remembered as a one time governor of Lagos State. History may not remember his godfatherism. But Saraki will always be remembered as a former governor and a former Senate president. Life well spent. Do something for your life. You appeared like a coward, a tomboy, a puppet, mummy boy....shame

Ok

tolani4real:
It happened to my junior brother before. He applied with his wife and daughter, Visa denied.
He wrote an appeal letter by himself, they won. They were given 1 month visa

you can't appeal yourself in Italy. Too bad. If it were to be Germany and most other Schengen visa, you can write remonstration yourself. But for Italy, you must appeal through an administerative court in rome

alert20:
The 700euro is just for the tour and hotel bookings ooo, flight is not included oooo..

I agree with you, but if I should bring my family along then definitely I will be looking at spending more than $1000 for the tour booking alone, flight and meals and a little shopping is not included oooo, for just 6days visit,

How else do you think I can tackled these refusals cos I don't wanna go to any Schengen embassy again aside these 2 embassy...

Although I have an appointment at the Poland embassy next month, going for a sport visa to watch the fifa u20 world cup in Poland from may 23rd - June 15th.

with a recent denial, going to another embassy for schegnen will be viewed by the officer as visa shopping and you will likely be denied again especially if it is close. It is not a good idea

However, every case is different. I have good travel history. I have the finances. Strangely, I involved my entire family of five....including my last two children with no travel history in VISA APPLICATION TO ITALY THIS JANUARY AND WAS DENIED!!! I Already paid 4000 dollars for the cruise. I submitted cruise documents, marriage certificate, NPC for children, my business account and my personal account to fund the trip. I didn't submit any income document for my wife. Apart from myself and my wife, the others submitted virgin passport.
So I decided to APPEAL.
For Italy, you need a lawyer. The lawyer collected 1000 euro and if we win, the govt of Italy will likely be ordered by the court to pay our legal fees up to 3000 euro so the lawyer said we are going to split it to two if we win the appeal. After paying , we did power of attorney and legalise it. The lawyer the Italian embassy use in Nigeria collected 150k to do the power of attorney, translation cost about 20k, the legalisation at the embassy cost another 60k and we sent it to Italy via EMS with another 19k. So it is expensive to appeal. We filed the appeal finally in February and the ministry of foreign affairs responded to the case....they said we were denied because MY WIFE DIDNT SUBMIT ANY INCOME ETC.
The lawyer requested for a lot of documents including my properties and pictures of my business and even tax documents.
Anyway, we had the hearing yesterday and the judge fixed Monday for judgement. Although, the lawyer is of the opinion we have good chances.
I will update on Monday on the outcome of the case

alert20:
Not at all, still here in Naija oooo, make God crown person effort ni ooooo,

I have been refused with the same reasons "THE INFORMATION SUBMITTED AND THE JUSTIFICATION OF THE INTENDED STAY WAS NOT RELIABLE".

I even paid the tour company like 700euro each which they sent me all the tour itinerary, hotel voucher, support letter for visa application etc...

But what I noticed is that they don't want young Nigerians in their country, except Nigerians that have visited the Schengen area before and Nigerians that have valuable assets here in Nigeria...

I submitted loads of documents including marriage certificate, landed property documents, daughter's NPC birth certificate, wedding and family pictures and still the ECO said I do not have strong ties, imagine even UK no tell me say I no get ties....

REASON : IN THE NORWAY REFUSAL LETTER, THE ECO STATED THAT ACCORDING TO THEIR RECORDS AND EXPERIENCE, MOST NIGERIAN THAT TRAVEL TO OTHER COUNTRIES DO NOT RETURN BACK HOME....

From what you wrote here, it means you want to tour alone without your wife and kids. This is just 700 euro. Na confirmed denial. They don't believe you can go on genuine holiday...with tour without your kid and wife. Think about it. As a family man, you are supposed to go on vacation with wife and kids. Going alone is enough to show you the purpose of the trip can't be trusted

alert20:
Baba she no get any travel history , infact na virgin passport....
I think she's about 40 years shs

ok. Cases are different sha

alert20:
Like I said earlier, it depends on the Eco, I av seen a woman who collected her portugese visa in 8days

But normally it's 15working days for the processing of the visa....

The woman likely had good travel history or is elderly .

timidapsin:
I wasn't given.
Even everyone in the collection center was rejected.
It was like it was pre-planned

No doubt about that. Like I told you....unless you have extensive travel history, No way the visa would have been approved. Most likely the Visa officer saw something so glaring in your application that he felt it wasn't worth investigating or spending time on your application so you were just denied at first glance. Most likely, your finances are either not good or you deposited large sums close to the time of application.

timidapsin:
Hello guys I applied for a one month sport visa last Friday and today I got a mail that my application has been processed and ready for collection, I'm kinda nervous now.
Has this happened to anyone before?

Do you think I was given the visa?

Most times, it is an express denial unless you have a lot of travel history in schegnen, usa, Australia and Canada. Otherwise, you have been denied

MrMcJay:
He was a Governor and less than a year after leaving office, he can't deliver his polling unit.

Fayose always claimed Ekiti people loved him, Obasanjo never pretended that Ogun people loved him.

Where are all those eating amala with Fayose, giving him ponmo to cut and palmwine to drink?

The true test of love is not when you're in office, it is when you're out of office.

why are you masturbating without reading the misleading topic? The PDP candidate in that polling unit already withdrew from the race so HE DIDNT CONTEST AT ALL!!!! Please read!!!

You just want people to know two banks invited you nothing more. You definately don't need advice. You already know you are not even qualified for First bank exam. You were called in error since you have two o level sittings. So if you need advice...this is my advice. Go for first bank exam. They are older, stronger, better with good job prospects. If you don't take my advice because you already know you don't qualify, God punish you for wasting my time this early morning

PotatoSalad:
See your life.
All my life I never knew about what he said until now.
He's opening your eyes to reality and you chose to be blindfolded.
Continue

so his message is meant for lazy people like you. Any average xtian knows this but it doesn't change anything. You can choose any day to mark your birthday. We all know Jesus was not born in December. So he is saying nothing new. But xtians chose December 25 to mark the birth of Jesus. My maternal grandmother didn't know her birthday. We just chose October 1 for her cos of holiday and it became a regular tradition. Funny enough, when she died, her biography listed her birthday to be October 1. So there is nothing new. Xtians chose an ancient holiday to mark Xmas for obvious reasons....it was already an holiday . So, live your life without all the baggage that people like freeze carry about otherwise you won't even be happy. You can't find meaning in everything we do in life...but you can choose to find happiness even if you don't know the meaning.

2019elections:
Let's assume a 16 year old wrote that without external or internal interference. Isn't this worrisome? A young man at this age channelling his energy on religious activities rather than planning on how to make innovations.
I know some will say "what are my innovations?" I need not start trying to defend my personality. Let's take it from this angle, Americans, Asians and the Europeans are tagged less religious by the religious Africans (especially Nigerians), yet we always run to dem for pasture new rather than run to God or god ( depending on what u serve). Isn't that hypocrisy?
We are here celebrating largest church in d world with no significance to an average Nigerian while countries celebrate scientific innovations. Pastors or Imams go to d hospital when they are sick, some even travel to the so called unreligious countries for treatment. Why can't they just 100% rely on what they believe in?

In my street only we have 12 churches with no industry , only those selling provisions. In fact bin a religionists is so bad that a redeem church member won't go to a nearby redeem church rather he will go to the one in town cos of d social benefits. No b same redeem? Abeg make una just de try use sense. Nigeria no fit progress like this.
This is d exact reason we always believe any sickness is a spiritual attack in Nigeria.

while I don't support tithe, your logic is awkward. The juvenile boy is doing something, let some other people do something else. We don't all have to think about same thing. Some will think business, some governance, some sciences. In your street, 12 people already saw need for church. They didn't sit down...they went ahead and activate their dreams. You saw the need for industry, rather do something about, you are attacking somebody else . Is it too bad if you start that Industry or are you waiting for the boy to come and start it for you? By the way, why do you think freeze is spending all his energy on churches rather than innovations?

Abati60:
When he was in APC, did he hold any office or any significant role. Its a shame how we the youths celebrate mediocrity and people who stole our commonwealth. Is he the best we can offer?

. You are a clown. How can you ask wether ATIKU is the best we can offer when you are obviously supporting a LIFELESS BUHARI with dictatorial tendencies with absolutely nothing to show for his 4 yrs in office. You mean BUHARI is the best we can offer?you must be a comedian

delugajackson:
Yet these same sets of humans would cheer at and prostrate for a thieving politician. There isn't really any difference between an armed robber and a Nigerian politician. They both operate the same way but with different tactics. The only notable difference is that the former steals with help of a gun, while the later steals with the power of the pen, which goes to confirm the saying that "the pen is mightier than the sword." Though I'm not in support of any ill gotten wealth.

But the levity of a politician's financial crime is very much higher because it hurts the economy of our nation for decades and would take longer time to recover. So why do we punish armed robbers and perpetrators of other crimes, but hail our oppressors and looters of our common wealth? Is this illiteracy, ignorance or just plain stupidity? Hypocrisy is truly a Nigerian.

While I am totally against jungle justice ...never ever compare a thieving politician to armed robbers. The day they visit your house, rape your wife, kill your son and still steal your money, you will then know the difference and say....if only they had carted away all the money without killings. So politicians may steal our money, we can recover later. Armed robbers steals your money and kills you in addition so you won't ever recover

maasoap:
Too much story. It's pure discrimination

keep thinking it is story. They are discriminating against illegal immigration from Nigerians and you can't blame them. Solution...let him build travel history... Dubai or south Africa. Make sure you have reasobable money in your personal account regardless of external funding and reapply. You will be surprised it is not discrimination. It works like magic

Never mind them. When we tell Nigerians to stop abusing visa dem no go hear.
Three things....you probably have no travel history so there is no way to know you won't abuse your visa.
Secondly, your financial status...as per account submitted shows you have nothing strong doing in Nigeria so you won't likely come back. The fact that you got funding has covered the cost of your stay there. The fact that you probably dont earn much in Nigeria means you are as good as immigrating to Australia. Thirdly, that your family is in Nigeria is a further proof you want to go and hustle first before inviting them. If you are well to do, you would apply for all of them at once but you know it will cost you so much so they know you are going to hustle. More so as a PHD student, your wife is entitled to also work full time in Australia but you left her behind because you can't afford it for now. It is not fair but you can't blame them . our people do spoil our visa reputation and we all often support them

maasoap:
That part says everything about the orientation of many youth in this country. Why would any normal person make this kind of statement?

if you are normal, you won't be supporting a lifeless president . When your GOD TINUBU supported an acclaimed fraudster with psychiatric tendencies to take over lagos, do you think you were normal that time. You better dont use the YOUTH fallacies here.

Buterflyle0:
PDP and Atiku will want to cook up all manner of lies why Atiku doesn't want to go to USA.

The above is the real reason why he cannot and dares not. He is a wanted man. Simple and short.

when the incumbent APC governor of Lagos state confirmed that the new incoming APC candidate is a fraudster....did you withdraw his candidature ? This allegation was not even denied. If you could vote for buhari with NEPA BILL....please leave us with our corrupt ATIKU

NOETHNICITY:
The landslide defeat Ambo suffered today is already enough signal he stands no chance in the race however the Apc NWC chooses to conduct the primaries.

I were the governor I'd simply step down at this stage
The fact that he has obstinately remained in the race coupled with the disastrous press conference, is already enough proof that he is surrounded by terrible advisers.

wait till Efcc knocks on sanwo door.....it is the usual game of APC. He will willingly step down

Okay o

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