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[quote author=akaahs post=60812705][/quote]U think an average Nigeria can afford N250k for medical treatment in a country where economic standard is low. Common on guy reason amm well na You are right. An average nigerian including the doctor cant afford 250k for medical treatment. Where do you now expect the doctor to get 250k credit to treat them when the chances of getting back the money is so slim?

IamaNigerianGuy:
At presentation the girl was in all likelihood an emergency case. The hospital should have helped stabilize her. It does not cost N250k to drain an ear infection and provide antibiotics and fluids.
Your other submissions are on point.

so it is every emergency you can stabilise right? How? After stabilisation then what next? How do they transfer the patient? You must learn how to think beyond the story. If it is an ordinary ear infection you think LASUTH will tell them there was no bed? When they say there is no bed in general hospital in nigeria, most times it is because the case is so critical the chances of survival is slim so they just used the NO BED alibi to push them away. The baby probably developed MENINGITIS and must have been unconscious and probably convulsing by the time they were running around. In children, meningitis is a relatively common sequelae of ear infection. In such a case the baby would require critical care and in most cases, ventilator so it is not about draining ear infection. so if in the end the baby dies while stabilising in your language after the hospital has incurred thousands in cost and the parent refuses to pay and even abuse them, they should just count it as bad debt abi and repeat the cycle tommorrow? it doesnt work.

1miccza:
And of course everything's right with a young child dying due to lack of funds right? People like you are our biggest problem.

you are the main problem we have. It is not right for the boy to die for lack of fund neither is it right for the private hospital to use their money to treat the boy. How many patient do you think a private hospital can treat on credit with their own money when it is most likely the patient wont pay once they are well or if the boy eventually dies? so nigerians must stop blaming private hospitals for demanding for their money but rather make govt enact a law that will ensure insurance or some other people pay back money after emergency treatment. Once they tell you there is no space in LASUTH....na lie. It means the case is so critical that chances of survival is slim. Such cases are naturally expensive. If the private hospital accepts them and treat them without deposit, should the patient die, not only will you lose all the money you have spent they will even blame you for not doing enough. They will refuse to ppay forgeting the effort you made in treating a critically ill patient usually requires fund. How much credit can private hospitals accommodate in a month?

Mynd44:
This attitude is what made me say eff this.

You want to keep running your fingers, please do.

I am done with you. PERMANENTLY!

I have given you the explanation for this mix up as an admin, you were not even scammed as you can get your money back easily.

If not for Asids55 no one will know this was going on but you want to start shouting my name up and down, please keep it up

Never mind the guy. In order to prove you can refund but you just didnt want to do so again due to his attitude; can you send me the equivalent of whatever you guys are shouting about in form of skrill or neteler.? I will just come here to give testimony and Shut the guy off for saying you cant even buy his drink. That is insult and you must not allow that go unchallenged. Challenge him by sending me skrill. That is the easier way out this early morning since you people no go allow us buy skrill in peace

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khiaa:
Stop being ridiculous, he's known her for nine years and mommy just laid her eyes on her. Mommy knows nothing about this woman and mommy should be happy that a woman cares so much about her son that she was willing to stick with him through thick and thin for nine years without being his wife

And when the marriage is about to break, people like you will gladly advise the woman to quickly pack her loads because marriage is not a do or die affair. By that time it will only remain his mother who will always be there for him. I can never because of this new generation women fight my mum or disrespect her. It has nothing to do with being a man. A man is somebody that can set his priorities right. Until you are married your mother is your first priority. Talk her into accepting your choice....never ever for once disrespect her cos of all these so callled FIN SISTERS

I rarely contribute to thread such as this cos your mind is made up on what to do. My experience.....most relationship not approved by parent will eventually be doomed. You cant betray your girlfriend but you can betray your mother. If you gp ahead to marry her against your mum wish you have created a life long problem for yourself. If your mum eventually forget your wife wont forget and will make life hellish for your mother. You will constantly find yourself having to settle issues between your mum and your wife. I am not saying she is not your wife but find a way of making your mum agree. If she insist on a NO, my brother....run from that girl. She will get a better you and you will get a better her so no need to marry out of sympathy. Marriage is deep....and no woman, i mean no woman can love you as much as your mother unless she is naturally evil. In these days that women abadons their marriage at the slightest provocation, dont marry a woman your family dont support.

chatupkay:
Oga! Oga!! Stop bullying people who take out time to enlighten others. Its obvious that you have nothing to offer other than bullying!
Pack well jooooooooooor!

lol. You are probably a medical student like jarx who thinks every percussion is bullying. Well, there is no blanket NPO after midnight again for surgery. Moreso, he was saying endotracheal intubation can predispose the patient to aspiration. On the contrary the intubation protects the trachea, prevent aspiration and makes serious complication from aspiration unlikely. For your information, we take into consideration the type of surgery, sophistication of anesthesia, part of the body to be operated, health status of the patient into cobsideration before issuing NPO prior to surgery so it is not a death sentence once you eat before surgery like your friend is saying. Ive operated several people who only just eat before requiring an immediate life saving surgery. You can just decompress the stomach with NG tube and intubate and operate. The latest guideline from AMA is this and can br modified expectedly......

.In its preoperative fasting guidelines, the American Society of Anesthesiologists says it's safe for healthy people of all ages who undergo elective surgery to consume:
Clear liquids, including water, clear tea, black coffee, carbonated beverages and fruit juice without pulp, up to two hours before surgery
Very light meals, like toast and tea with milk, up to six hours before surgery
Heavy meals, including fried or fatty foods and meat, up to eight hours before surgery

jarx:
Reasons Not to Eat or Drink Before Surgery
1) If your surgery will be in part of your gastrointestinal system, having food in your system could complicate the surgery and lead to infection or cause the surgery to be canceled.
In some cases, a bowel preparation is done, a process that completely empties your digestive tract to prepare for surgery.
2) If you have food or fluid in your stomach during your surgery, you could vomit while under
anesthesia . The combination of anesthesia, which paralyzes the body, and intubation makes it possible for you to inhale the vomit into your lungs. This can cause serious complications, such as pneumonia and difficulty breathing, which can compromise your recovery.
Eating before surgery--when you have been told not to--can also lead to nausea and vomiting after surgery. Vomiting after surgery can be extremely painful, as your incision site and your throat may already be sore from the surgery itself.

You are suffering from medical school induced grandiose delusion of purulent knowledge. finish medical school first before you start commenting on social media. you will only be displaying your half baked knowledge. No harm intended.

One major lesson from this foundation......this is going to be a big project for a middle class person with moderate income like myself. The plan is now 9 flats of 2 bedroom each on two floors since we can comfortably boast of at least 12 car spaces. If i am too stretched financially i will stop at one decking to make a 6 flats of 2 bedroom each. But i hope to get the 9 flats done. I am going on a two weeks break to re energise and for appraisal of work done so far for more efficiency in subsequent stages

Foundation...done and dusted. To God be the glory

ceelog:
Pardon my curiosity I thought septic tank (and underground water tanks) need to be pillar and beam cast with concrete and steel for durability Did you consider that? I love your doggedness

you are right sir. We just cast the pillars at the the four corners. We plan to pour concrete inside the four inches block from the bottom up. Then there will be a central pillar, a beam all over the upper block and cross pillars linking the central pillar and the beam. You know it wasnt time for septic tank if not for filling sand. For the water waste, it is small so we are not putting pillars. We pour concrete and put a beam on top. Thanks for the observation

keziah123:
You haven't posted the plan.

Yes sir.....i will post the plans.....architectural, structural, mechanical and electrical this week. Tnks

Pix

The part of the foundation that is left which was initially occupied by materials

Update pix

We are more than half way through with the foundation and german floor. One major hindrance was space....we offloaded materials on part of the wall line so we couldnt dig the entire foundation at once . We had to finish using the materials first before digging the remaining walls .

The digging of the two septic tank in search of filling sand took some time away from rounding up the foundation. However it is worth it since we no longer need to buy any filling sand whatsoever so at least some money saved. We should start casting the DPC tommorrow.

Pix

Randomn pix

We are digging two septic tank(10×10) and two water waste in order to get materials for filling instead of buying sand filling . One is fully dug. They are on the second one. We should be able to start sandfilling fully by wednesday when the two septic tanks are ready

TCD:
@helpee

Great Job doc.

that land what is its dimensions, looks larger than a plot.

Please how much did it cost you to get the land in that area including all the government fees and all?

thanks bro. I actually bought the land without c of o. It is more than one plot in dimensions. I paid 10million for the plot, omonile collected 1.5million which covers omonile receipt, agreement and money for constriction works ( foundation, decking and roofing inclusive) C of o under processing. Awaiting publication. So far ive spent 300k on the c of o, govt fees inclusive...you know the actual amount on omonile receipt is lesser than the actual purchase price. I did the fencing myself. There was a room and palor BQ x 2 on it when i bought it. I converted to a standard 3 bedroom flat BQ which is the building in the background. So far so good on the various cost of securing the land and taking possession

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FortuneTeller:
It has been tried several times. People bring it to court all the time. It won't work here. It has no bearing on your divorce case, unless one person is requesting alimony.

You really don't understand the system here. The court does not care if the DNA is not yours. The child is yours due to the marriage. I know it's hard to accept, but that is the law here.

Also don't use the word "nigger". It's very ignorant and I'm sure you think AA use that word, but it's not the same. I won't be addressing you any longer due to this. You're embarrassing me and yourself as a Nigerian.

My dear.....you may be living in that your so called USA which you are so proud of...ive been there and more than 20 other countries several times as a tourist. I have cousins that are divourced in your messed up USA. And you know nothing about the law even in your USA until you are taken to court and hire a lawyer. You quoted me first and you can be rest assured i wont miss your ignorant, biased argument if you stop addressing me. Meanwhile, stop parading....i live in USA as a criteria on faceless forum. Its actually childish. Best of luck

FortuneTeller:
It has been tried several times. People bring it to court all the time. It won't work here. It has no bearing on your divorce case, unless one person is requesting alimony.

you really dont understand. It doesnt work in divorce cases until you are asked to pay child support for a child not yours then it becomes significant because the adultery is now having a direct impact on your future as you have to live with the emotional trauma of paying for a child not yours.....what if you break down psychologically and kill the woman for ruining your life?. The court will now jail you abi? Get a good lawyer. It works even in your USA

FortuneTeller:
Sir no one is getting criminally charged for adultery in the US. Absolutely no one. There are many laws here which are on the "books" but not enforced. If you don't think you can be forced to pay child support under American law in the situation I described, it tells me you have never lived here.

you are funny. It is part of the law isnt it? That no one is pursuing it doenst mean it wont be enforced if somebody pursues it. Is it part of tbe law? Yes. So why do you think no one. Even the oklhoma judge first ruled against child support till he found out the law that he must have done tbe DNA within 2yrs. So if tbe same judge found out the law says five year behind bar for infidelity he will enforce it. For the first time in decades somebody was jailed for bigamy in canada two months ago and it made news. People suddenly realised its part of their laws. And mind you, he can pursue a civil case for emotional damage against the woman and claim damages. And madam, i dont need to live in the USA so stop parading that as evidence of you knowing it all. Moreso, the OP is not living in USA anyway. He lives in nigeria so the USA law does not apply here. OJ simpson won the crominal case for death of wife but the family won civil case for wrongful death and claimed millions in damages. So if you think you cant be sued for adultery in usa either in a criminal or civil case, pray you dont meet a troublesome nigger

FortuneTeller:
Google does not have all the information. I live in the US and one of these cases hit the news every year. I know one man in this situation. If you are married when the child is conceived, the court views you as the father. The ones who normally get out of this scenario, do so when the woman identifies another man as the father through the birth certificate or a request for child support from the other man. If this does not happen, the court views the husband as the father regardless of DNA. He will pay child support for a child that is not his.

My dear, those people you know are also mumu. In many states in that same USA, infidelity is criminal. If the judge can force you to pay child support because the child was born during marriage and you have DNA evidence to the contrary, you have a prima facie evidence for infidelity. In okhlahoma....Not only do adulterers face fines of up to $500 but also incarceration for up to five years. GOOGLE THE PENALTIES AGAINST ADULTERY. By the time the woman faces up to five years in jail she will drop tbe child support. Get a good lawyer. Even if you dont pursue the criminal case of infidelity against her, you can take up another civil case for breach of trust against her and sue for damages and recover the useless child support. If you are troublesome and ready to pursue your case, no judge, i mean no judge will ask you to pay child support for a child not yours and if they do, they provide you with evidence to pursue a criminal case or another civil case against the cheating wife

delishpot:
I said in some cases. Abeg go back and read my past posts. People said once it's confirmed that a child does not belong to a man He is not expected to pay and I said in some cases he is made to pay. Tell me where I was wrong again? Plus go online and see some other cases abound under different circumstances. So there is. Possibility and we can not decide online what may or may not be. He should get a lawyer and get the best advice for the case at hand

the bottomline....if it is established the child is not his....that is paternity by deception. If the case is well pursued, no judge will ask you to support a child not yours.

delishpot:
https://www.google.rs/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4117362/amp/Oklahoma-man-forced-pay-child-support-s-kid-didn-t-girlfriend-cheating-time.html
Thomas did not think his wife was cheating on him when she became pregnant
He asked for a DNA test when the child turned three which proved he wasn't the father
Oklahoma law says someone must ask for a paternity test within two years or be forced to pay child support
An Oklahoma man is being forced to pay child support for another man's child because he ordered a paternity test too late.

Thomas, who did not give his last name, asked for a paternity test for his three year old son when his marriage fell apart.


I want to believe this ops man is abroad and I did not say he will definitely be forced to pay. I clearly said in some instances he may be forced to pay. So it's not impossible.
Plus alimony is not judged by cheating, unless they had a prenup she still could get half of his property depending g on their marriage and things that happened while they were married.

you are using a single case that is subject of petitions to the state lawmakers to change the law. Even the judge earlier ruled that he cant pay child support...but he later changed it saying tbe laws says he must have challenged within 2yrs but the guy is saying he had no reason to be suspicious. And mind you...this is only okhlahoma and this is the only known case in the whole world and that useless law will be changed. Note...assuming tbe guy discovered it earlier than 2yrs you wont pay too. So the bottomline is this....you are not supposed to pay child support for a child not yours but in oklahoma if you dont discover early you may till you chsllenge the decision to supreme court

delishpot:
Simple research on Google na! Let me help you half way, type can a 'man be forced to pay child support for a baby that is not his' and you will get some feedback.

statistic which some may find surprising, a full third of all children born in the United States each year are born to unmarried parents. Historically, the only way to definitively prove paternity was for the mother of the child to file a paternity suit, however more recently, the laws have changed to allow either parent to file a paternity suit to establish the father-child relationship. Depending on the results of the DNA test, the child’s birth certificate will be changed to reflect—or remove—the name of the father. If paternity is definitely established, child support will be ordered by the state.


The Legalities of Fatherhood



THIS is what the research on Google brought. Study it well....once paternity is established using DNA, they remove the name of the fathet from the birth certificate and the man is absolved from child support. So brother...nobody can force you to pay child support for a child not yours if you pursue the case