Horus: The truth is that those so-called wise and prudent theologians know absolutely nothing about the so-called resurrection simply because it never happened. Easter, or the celebration of the resurrection, is merely a tradition, a tradition that you have been taught from childhood, and coming into maturity you have accepted it because that is what you were taught. That is what you read bout. That is what your parents made you observed every Easter Sunday. Thus, you continued to go along with it and before you knew it, you had carelessly assumed what you now believe without question or proof. Easter is the feast of feasts celebrated in honor of the risen Christ. You have even reached the point where you will defend vigorously and emotionally your belief, a belief that can lead you straight to hell.It has become human nature to flow with the stream, and to go along with the crowd, to believe and perform like those around you. And, even when you stumble on the truth, you will not believe because like the majority of the people, you stubbornly refuse to believe what you are unwilling to believe. There is an old saying that says: He who is convinced against his will is of the same opinion still
LordReed: No church environment doesn't make me uncomfortable but some church services are a bore fest, they make me want to leave and go do something else. I went to church today and it was quite interesting. The Chief of Defense Staff was even in the service.
Workch: An object with larger density than water floating, like Jesus did.
If I can see any object with more density than water float on water, I will believe that Jesus walked on water
Lol... a God that is subject to the laws of science is no God at all. Since he made the laws that govern science then why should it come as a surprise that He is able to break such laws?
How does science explain a virgin giving birth? Does science have an explanation for someone coming back to life after being dead for 3 days? Does science explain how someone born blind can see again? Or how someone's limbs can grow back?
What other logical explanation is there for these examples other than the fact that they are supernatural events?
PastorMIsBack: You'll be surprised to hear that not all church members believe everything happening in their church. I was a staunch member of MFM but never believed in the 'fall down and die' prayers. I strongly believed the prayers went against what Jesus taught.
In my branch back then, you'd regularly hear a minister say, "I know Sis Tina doesn't agree with this, but we are going to pray this dangerous prayer right now. Any man, Any woman etc etc, somersault and die"
Firstly, I would like to witness the Exodus of the children of Israel from Egypt. That is all the things included in the Exodus from their captivity to the ten plagues to their sojourn in the wilderness and so on.
Secondly, I would like to witness the ministry of Jesus. I would like to see how he laid hands on people and how he preached and taught.
Workch: Like I will test it 100times and it will give me the same result 99times at least... For example, if I make I claim that the brightest object after the moon in the sky is venus. We can test that using a telescope, the result will show that venus is the brightest object brightest object after the moon 100times.
That's what evidence is, thre results are always testable
Okay, so what religious claims would you like to subject to your tests?
TruthinAction: The honest way to correctly interprete scripture is to examine every verses in the Bible that directly and indirectly refers to the subject. It is a spiritual fraud to only quote scriptures that appears to support your preconceived opinions and ignore others that contradicts it.
Looking at verses or passages that refers to hell or hell fire, any sane man will know it's referring to a place of torture. Putting grave in place of hell in most context will not even make sense or fir into it.
For instance, the story of the Rich man and Lazarus is a good example. The Bible says that the rich man lifted his eyes in hell. I know it's a true life story but you call it a parable. Even if it's a parable, the message is still clear.
In parables, you don't use terms that doesn't make sense. You can't for instance say, their was a certain man who was flying. People don't fly. So, if hell is grave, does it make sense to say that the rich man lifted his eyes in grave? Do dead bodies lift their eyes in grave?
In addition, the rich man was in torment in hell. Are people in torment in grave? The rich man also spoke. Do people speak in grave? He also saw Lazarus. Do dead bodies see in grave.
I have a full book on this subject.
Please, run away from that group called Jehovah witness. They are actually agents of darkness preparing people for the very hell they claim doesn't exist.
Time will not permit me to give more examples.
If you have conscience, you should understand the points I have made. You must not win every argument. Know when you are wrong and admit it. No one knows it all.
You just spoke my mind exactly. That's the thing about Scripture. You can't form a doctrine out of one portion of Scripture when there are many other portions of Scripture relating to that subject that contradict it.
Leave these Jehovah's Witnesses jare, there's no convincing them. Their deceit runs deep... very deep.
If there are Sabbath observers here, can you share with us how you spend the Day? What time does it start and when does it end? Do you do any kind of work? Do you cook?
Peace and blessings of the Sabbath of YHVH Almighty on all his saints, servants and prophets all over the world.
ubee: It seems you're going out of your way in order to sound intelligent. Stop confusing yourself. Snakes do crawl. 'Slither' is a word used to describe a the movement of a snake based on how it looks - (the twisting movement) Get your facts right before you come out to make such confident statements.
No need to be rude. I obviously didn't know. I was only sharing what i knew. Peace!
RussellRutherfo: They are not Christians. I wonder why you guys call them Christians. They are cult just like Islam. A false religion acting like they are an organization of light. Their fruits have been confused changed teachings in just 152years of their existence while Trinity has stayed unshaken for about a thousand years now despite the attacks of cults like theirs before them.
Like i said... an aberration of the Christian faith
MaxInDHouse: Did Jesus really exist or he's just a mythical figure?
Before we can answer this question we must consider how we can establish the historicity of any human in stories we've been hearing and reading in different books!
His name! Jesus' name is translated from a Hebrew word "YEHOSHUA" which means "YAHWEH is salvation" so Jesus came from a nation known globally as Jews, it's easy to walk up to any jew and confirm that this name is from their place. His birth place! Jesus was born in a village in first century Judea called "Bethlehem Ephrata" and all the places surrounding this village are known till today. His life! Jesus grew up under the care of a carpenter (Joseph) who taught him carpentry so Jesus had a handiwork (craft) that he leant and mastered. His friends! Jesus made lots of friends whose names were mentioned in his story, this friends so much loved him that they were willing to die for the history of Jesus. They took his teachings to all the cities, towns, villages and far away counties back then so that there's nowhere around the Mediterranean sea that people in the first century don't know about the Jew called Jesus of Nazareth. His teachings! Throughout the history of mankind there has never been any human be it king or emperor whose command has lasted in the hearts and minds of people living thousands of years after his death. His modern day followers! People like Alexander the great, Emperor Nero, King Napoleon, King James and many others have lived and reined as Kings on this planet but today they're only remembered in history books. What about Jesus of Nazareth? His subjects are throughout the earth today preaching zealously and industriously teaching people in their neighbourhood what Jesus commanded them. Nobody is still obeying all those kings mentioned above!
So if anyone wants to dispute the historicity of this man from Nazareth what is there to prove that any other person has lived on this planet?
Mr Max. I disagree with most of the things you have posted on this forum but i have to say... I really like this response you gave. Well done!!
Why would I do those things when they are the very things that indicate you have faith in the first place? I should fast, for what exactly? You mean the god won't respond until I starve myself and potentially put myself in a vulnerable state? LoLz. Don't you see how suspicious it is that your god only seems to respond to those already susceptible to belief?
LordReed: Rather the truth is your god is a mental construct.
No I have not, others have on my behalf though, still waiting for the god to respond.
By others do you mean your family? Besides you haven't even made any effort to seek God and find out the truth for yourself. Have you ever since you started to doubt God's existence tried to at least read the Bible to know the truth for yourself? Have you fasted, prayed, had Christian fellowship? You aren't being just and fair to yourself.
LordReed: It means you already want to believe or already do.
Oh. Mr Reed. What you're looking or waiting for has a 0.1 out of 10 chance of happening. That's just the truth. By the way, have you ever spoken to God since you became an atheist and asked Him to speak back to you to prove He is real?