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LordReed:
I went for my wife's sake so no I am not considering giving up atheism, I haven't seen any reason to compel me to.

Wow, so your wife is a believer. That's interesting. But shouldn't that be a red flag for you?

Hello. It has been a while since I last posted. It is my sincere wish that you consider what I have to say.

I just want to use this post to admonish you atheists to consider the fact that your beliefs may be wrong.

If you aren't willing to be wrong you can never be right.

The Bible says, 'Stop deceiving yourselves. If you think you are wise by this world’s standards, you need to become a fool to be truly wise.'

You see, there is a reason that belief in the spiritual precedes atheism by thousands of years and there is a reason that there are more that believe in the spiritual than there are that don't believe.

Also, it is more logical to believe in an all-powerful, all-knowing being that reigns above all than it is to not believe. You see, in all things there is a hierarchy. This is true in schools, businesses and all sectors of human endeavors. Even in the animal kingdom there is a hierarchy. There are those at the top of the food chain and there are those that are at the bottom of the food chain.

This also is true concerning the world at large. Man reigns above all the creatures of the Earth and God reigns above man.

Think about it, really think. If the spiritual was not real then why haven't all forsaken it? If prayers are not answered then why do people still pray? Even really prominent philosophers like Socrates and Aristotle believed in the spiritual. Isaac Newton believed in the spiritual and was in fact fascinated with and infatuated by Bible prophecies and miracles (you can google it).

The spiritual is very real and more real than you may think. It is true that there are people among us that our eyes cannot see. It is true that these same people run the affairs of this word and control the governing powers of this world.

Arguing about the existence of God is not a logical argument. God has made His existence clear through nature. Everything about nature is just screaming GOD! GOD!! GOD!!!. I mean just observe how the earth rotates like it was commanded to do so. Just observe the beautiful design of the human body and nature at large.

A more logical argument would be about which religion holds the correct views about God.

I advice you all to be like Thomas. You see Thomas wasn't with the rest of the disciples the first time that Jesus appeared to the disciples.

Joh 20:24 Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.
Joh 20:25 The other disciples therefore said to him, "We have seen the Lord." So he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."

You see, Thomas was an atheist of some sort. He demanded the same thing that today's atheists demand - EVIDENCE. But I am urging you to be like Thomas, not because of his demand for evidence but for the following reason:

Joh 20:26 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, "Peace to you!"
Joh 20:27 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."
Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

You see, Thomas demanded evidence, but he didn't just write off the testimony of the other disciples like most atheists do today, but instead he stayed with them in the hopes that he would see what they saw and because he was with them, he indeed saw the Lord.

So my plea to you atheists is this: Don't just write off the beliefs of we who believe in the spiritual, but instead seek to understand why we believe what we believe. I encourage you to sincerely seek God out. He is not very far and if you seek Him diligently and with your whole heart, you'll indeed find Him.

I implore you to be like Thomas. Spend time with believers, observe them, learn from them, read the Bible with an learners mind and not with a critical mind.

I am encouraging and challenging you to devote one whole year to finding out whether God is real or not. Fast, pray, study the Bible every day for one year. Ask God to reveal Himself to you and He will. Talk to God and He will talk back to you.

This is the most important decision you could ever make, because where you'll spend eternity depends on it. Most atheists who are in hell today are full of regret and that regret is contributing towards making their stay in hell even more painful, because they had a chance to choose and they chose wrongly.

Please don't just follow the crowd. Seek to know the truth for yourselves.

God Bless you!!!

Horus:
The truth is that those so-called wise and prudent theologians know absolutely nothing about the so-called resurrection
simply because it never happened. Easter, or the celebration of the resurrection, is merely a tradition, a tradition that you
have been taught from childhood, and coming into maturity you have accepted it because that is what you were taught.
That is what you read bout. That is what your parents made you observed every Easter Sunday. Thus, you continued to go
along with it and before you knew it, you had carelessly assumed what you now believe without question or proof.
Easter is the feast of feasts celebrated in honor of the risen Christ. You have even reached the point where you will
defend vigorously and emotionally your belief, a belief that can lead you straight to hell.It has become human nature
to flow with the stream, and to go along with the crowd, to believe and perform like those around you. And, even when
you stumble on the truth, you will not believe because like the majority of the people, you stubbornly refuse to believe what
you are unwilling to believe. There is an old saying that says: He who is convinced against his will is of the same opinion still

Juliet751:
Good one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qhQRMhUK1o&list=PL3gdeV4Rk9EfL-NyraEGXXwSjDNeMaRoX&index=12&t=17s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SbJ4p6WiZE&list=PL3gdeV4Rk9EfL-NyraEGXXwSjDNeMaRoX&index=13&t=19s

sonmvayina:
Who did?

The 12 disciples, 500 other believers on the same day and at the same time, the apostle Paul and many other people since the days of the apostles.

sonmvayina:
Or..or or...they are just figment of somebody's imagination..
The mind is wide you know...

How does somebody imagine seeing someone alive who was previously dead for three days?

Workch:
There's no evidence that God exist.
So your first statement is not fact

Okay... what would you consider as evidence for the existence of God?

LordReed:
Family Worship Centre, Abuja.

Lol... and why did you go? Are you considering giving up atheism?

LordReed:
No church environment doesn't make me uncomfortable but some church services are a bore fest, they make me want to leave and go do something else. I went to church today and it was quite interesting. The Chief of Defense Staff was even in the service.

And which church might that be?

Workch:
An object with larger density than water floating, like Jesus did.

If I can see any object with more density than water float on water, I will believe that Jesus walked on water

Lol... a God that is subject to the laws of science is no God at all. Since he made the laws that govern science then why should it come as a surprise that He is able to break such laws?

How does science explain a virgin giving birth? Does science have an explanation for someone coming back to life after being dead for 3 days? Does science explain how someone born blind can see again? Or how someone's limbs can grow back?

What other logical explanation is there for these examples other than the fact that they are supernatural events?

PastorMIsBack:
You'll be surprised to hear that not all church members believe everything happening in their church. I was a staunch member of MFM but never believed in the 'fall down and die' prayers. I strongly believed the prayers went against what Jesus taught.

In my branch back then, you'd regularly hear a minister say, "I know Sis Tina doesn't agree with this, but we are going to pray this dangerous prayer right now. Any man, Any woman etc etc, somersault and die"

Me: Please pray your prayers

Lol... @somersault and die.

Firstly, I would like to witness the Exodus of the children of Israel from Egypt. That is all the things included in the Exodus from their captivity to the ten plagues to their sojourn in the wilderness and so on.

Secondly, I would like to witness the ministry of Jesus. I would like to see how he laid hands on people and how he preached and taught.

Lol... It is 'spared' not 'speared' if God had 'speared' her like you said she wouldn't still be alive today.

Workch:
Like I will test it 100times and it will give me the same result 99times at least...
For example, if I make I claim that the brightest object after the moon in the sky is venus. We can test that using a telescope, the result will show that venus is the brightest object brightest object after the moon 100times.

That's what evidence is, thre results are always testable

Okay, so what religious claims would you like to subject to your tests?

Workch:
I'm sounding like a robot because I need evidence, I Just one testable evidence for your God and I won't ask again

When you say testable evidence what exactly do you mean. Be specific.

TruthinAction:
The honest way to correctly interprete scripture is to examine every verses in the Bible that directly and indirectly refers to the subject. It is a spiritual fraud to only quote scriptures that appears to support your preconceived opinions and ignore others that contradicts it.

Looking at verses or passages that refers to hell or hell fire, any sane man will know it's referring to a place of torture. Putting grave in place of hell in most context will not even make sense or fir into it.

For instance, the story of the Rich man and Lazarus is a good example. The Bible says that the rich man lifted his eyes in hell. I know it's a true life story but you call it a parable. Even if it's a parable, the message is still clear.

In parables, you don't use terms that doesn't make sense. You can't for instance say, their was a certain man who was flying. People don't fly. So, if hell is grave, does it make sense to say that the rich man lifted his eyes in grave? Do dead bodies lift their eyes in grave?

In addition, the rich man was in torment in hell. Are people in torment in grave? The rich man also spoke. Do people speak in grave? He also saw Lazarus. Do dead bodies see in grave.

I have a full book on this subject.

Please, run away from that group called Jehovah witness. They are actually agents of darkness preparing people for the very hell they claim doesn't exist.

Time will not permit me to give more examples.

If you have conscience, you should understand the points I have made. You must not win every argument. Know when you are wrong and admit it. No one knows it all.

You just spoke my mind exactly. That's the thing about Scripture. You can't form a doctrine out of one portion of Scripture when there are many other portions of Scripture relating to that subject that contradict it.

Leave these Jehovah's Witnesses jare, there's no convincing them. Their deceit runs deep... very deep.

Boogyman557:
Holly Gram


4 Lagos here, I de NACK ASHAWOO 1k and 5h..


LITE UP my WEED in peace


WTF MAN!

Around where in Lagos exactly?

Aboki. This is the wrong section. Please take it to the islam for muslims section. Thanks.

Boogyman557:
Holly Gram My BLODA u go enjoy ur Life!



U go SAVE more RUBBERZ (money)


and u go de reason ur FAMILY and siblings!


better NACK ASHAWOO 1k or 5h and COME back house jeje...


if u fall in love... NA EXPRESS U DE GO!


SUBSCRIPTION, Na 4 ur HEAD!


school FEES, Na 4 ur HEAD!


VALENTINE'S DAY, Na 4 ur HEAD!


BIRTHDAY Na 4 ur HEAD!


FIXING NAILS, Na 4 ur HEAD!


RECHARGE CARD, Na 4 ur HEAD!


I ONE BUY DRUG 4 SMALL HEADACHE, Na 4 ur HEAD!


MY BLODA d matterz plenty....


LITE UP my WEED in peace


WTF MAN!

Where you dey find ashawo for 1k or 5h for this Buhari economy

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!


If there are Sabbath observers here, can you share with us how you spend the Day? What time does it start and when does it end? Do you do any kind of work? Do you cook?

Peace and blessings of the Sabbath of YHVH Almighty on all his saints, servants and prophets all over the world.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Dude we don't need to observe the sabbath anymore

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Jesus was giving Peter a prophecy about the way he would die.

ubee:
It seems you're going out of your way in order to sound intelligent.
Stop confusing yourself.
Snakes do crawl. 'Slither' is a word used to describe a the movement of a snake based on how it looks
- (the twisting movement)
Get your facts right before you come out to make such confident statements.

No need to be rude. I obviously didn't know. I was only sharing what i knew. Peace!

Candidlady:
What bout lizards centipedes millipedes? Do they walk, slither or crawl?

Lizards have limbs so i guess they crawl

Candidlady:



Isee kobojunkie peeping... Sure she got something to say


Lemme learn although idont pray for boy child!!!

Hold up... kobojunkie is a she?

Correction... snakes don't crawl they slither.. in order to say that something crawls it has to have limbs and snakes don't.. peace!

Janosky:
Talk is cheap.
You are entitled to your opinion.

The very aberration of the Christian faith is worshipping 3 deities when Jesus Christ your so called saviour worshipped only one @John20:17.

In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.

The doctrine of the trinity is clearly established from the very beginning of the very first book of the Bible

RussellRutherfo:
They are not Christians. I wonder why you guys call them Christians. They are cult just like Islam. A false religion acting like they are an organization of light. Their fruits have been confused changed teachings in just 152years of their existence while Trinity has stayed unshaken for about a thousand years now despite the attacks of cults like theirs before them.

Like i said... an aberration of the Christian faith

MaxInDHouse:
Did Jesus really exist or he's just a mythical figure?

Before we can answer this question we must consider how we can establish the historicity of any human in stories we've been hearing and reading in different books!

His name!
Jesus' name is translated from a Hebrew word "YEHOSHUA" which means "YAHWEH is salvation" so Jesus came from a nation known globally as Jews, it's easy to walk up to any jew and confirm that this name is from their place.
His birth place!
Jesus was born in a village in first century Judea called "Bethlehem Ephrata" and all the places surrounding this village are known till today.
His life!
Jesus grew up under the care of a carpenter (Joseph) who taught him carpentry so Jesus had a handiwork (craft) that he leant and mastered.
His friends!
Jesus made lots of friends whose names were mentioned in his story, this friends so much loved him that they were willing to die for the history of Jesus. They took his teachings to all the cities, towns, villages and far away counties back then so that there's nowhere around the Mediterranean sea that people in the first century don't know about the Jew called Jesus of Nazareth.
His teachings!
Throughout the history of mankind there has never been any human be it king or emperor whose command has lasted in the hearts and minds of people living thousands of years after his death.
His modern day followers!
People like Alexander the great, Emperor Nero, King Napoleon, King James and many others have lived and reined as Kings on this planet but today they're only remembered in history books. What about Jesus of Nazareth?
His subjects are throughout the earth today preaching zealously and industriously teaching people in their neighbourhood what Jesus commanded them. Nobody is still obeying all those kings mentioned above!

So if anyone wants to dispute the historicity of this man from Nazareth what is there to prove that any other person has lived on this planet?

Mr Max. I disagree with most of the things you have posted on this forum but i have to say... I really like this response you gave. Well done!!

dawnomike:
His way of STANDING out i guess

When he prays he lifts up his eyes to the 'heels'

LordReed:
Not only family, friends and pastors.

Why would I do those things when they are the very things that indicate you have faith in the first place? I should fast, for what exactly? You mean the god won't respond until I starve myself and potentially put myself in a vulnerable state? LoLz. Don't you see how suspicious it is that your god only seems to respond to those already susceptible to belief?

Mr Reed i rest my case.

chatinent:
It happened in Aba.

Oh ok

chatinent:
We go Crunches. What will you eat?

Nobody:

Absolutely nobody:

Bae: “Do you have fowl?”

Wait.... crunchies.. do you stay at aba?