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LordReed:
Yes that is what I want.

Lol.. You know that'll probably never happen right? I'm not saying that it can't though. God only rewards those who seek Him. Have you bee seeking Him?

LordReed:
What do you mean by layman terms? You mean you don't understand what it means to communicate or to receive information?

The way you said it obscured the message you were trying to pass. Are you saying that you want Jesus to communicate or speak to you?

LordReed:
Is that what you got from that post? You ignored "Actual communication with the living person, a piece of information only a living person with shared intimacy would have access to"?

Lol... i actually didn't understand what you replied. Could you say it in layman's terms?

LordReed:
Evidence to confirm the existence of a living person would be the minimum, security experts call it proof of life. Actual communication with the living person, a piece of information only a living person with shared intimacy would have access to, other forms of audio visual recordings with time stamps or date confirmations, etc.

Lol... so you want to see Jesus before you believe?

cornelboy:
Thanks for the link. I know your intention was to explain things clear to me, i sincerely appreciate it.

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I won't be able to address all your points in that your post but i will just summarize my response here.

Genesis 2:7 nlv
[7]Then the lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground. He breathed the breath of life into the man’s nostrils, and the man became a living person.

You quoted this verse but i don't think you understand it.
It's very clear bro, before God breath into Adam he was a lifeless body made from dust. But he became a living being/soul/person after God breath into him.

Ecclesiastes 12:7
[7]For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.

Maybe you don't know that the same spirit or breath of God gives everyone both the good and bad people life.
And when this spirit or breath leaves, our life ends.

Job 33:4 NLV
4For the Spirit of God has made me,
and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.


Now concerning God's punishment for Adam. God said to them in Genesis 2:17
"except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If you eat its fruit, you are sure to die.”

First did God mention physical or spiritual death?
It's obvious that Adam was a physical body unlike God himself and the angels who are spirit beings.
What happened after they ate the forbidden fruit? What did God say will happen to them?

Genesis 3:19
[19]By the sweat of your brow
    will you have food to eat
��until you return to the ground
    from which you were made.
For you were made from dust,
    and to dust you will return��.”

The time they died doesn't matter cos they still died and if they hadn't sin they would have lived eternally.
Thus the spirit or breath is a power from God that gives us life not another part of us that is independent.

Where did you see any clue that they had spirit that didn't die or lived after them?
If their spirit continues to live after they died where are they now, heaven or where?

Ecclesiastes 9:5,10
[5]The living at least know they will die, ��but the dead know nothing. They have no further reward��, nor are they remembered.
[10]Whatever you do, do well. For when you go to the grave, there will be no work or planning or knowledge or wisdom.


John 5:28-29
[28]Don’t be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God’s Son,
[29]and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to experience eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to experience judgment.

If we continue to live in heaven after we die, why is there need for resurrection?

When Lazarus Jesus' friend died, do you think Jesus would resurrect him if his spirit was already enjoying in heaven? No cos when Lazarus died the breath or spirit left him and he was in the grave decaying.
But Jesus raised him and he of course died again asleep in death also awaiting resurrection.

So you're saying that we are purely material beings and not spirits? If so, how do you explain the story of the rich man and Lazarus and 2 Corinthians 5 vs 8? How do you explain James 2 vs 26 (For as the body without the spirit is dead)?

I'd like to hear your views please.

LordReed:
Satisfactory evidence that this Jesus exists and that he wants my life ( whatever that means).

What would qualify as satisfactory evidence to you?

Jakumo:
There always comes a point when religious snake-oil salespeople start to actually believe the asinine garbage they invent to impress their flocks of brainwashed sheep.

Just looking at the photograph of this woman, one can easily see that she is intellectually challenged and probably suffering from an IQ that is way down there in the single digits range.

All told, these people who preach utter nonsense to gigantic halls teeming with gullible cult lemmings holding their eyes tightly closed while waving their arms in the air like so many deranged octopuses, offer jolly good entertainment for those times when one is bored and in need of a good laugh.

Your English is impeccable. Are you an atheist?

[quote author=AsomArchitectNG post=109403735][/quote]This was a nice post. Well-done!

ReacherSaidNoth:
If more people read the Bible there would be fewer Christians.

Why do you say so?

cornelboy:
There are a lot of reasons to believe that hell (a place of suffering after death) doesn't exist:
° in the old testament (OT) God never warned the children of Israel bout any possibility of suffering after death. He didn't mention hell to any of the patriarchs and prophets rather God gave them physical punishment.
When did the penalty of sin changed from death to hell fire?

° if hell is really a place of punishment to warn people about, why didn't Paul, Peter and other apostles emphasize on it? Why didn't they mention it in their Epistles or book of Acts?

°Hell fire is one of Roman Catholic dogmas.... probably invented to coerce people to convert to Christianity and increase church revenue

Read this post https://www.nairaland.com/6711638/very-false-christian-belief-afterlife i hope it helps

peggywebbs:
Another handiwork of Workch

lol.. i actually don't think its him this time tho

LordReed:
Satisfactory evidence that this Jesus exists and that he wants my life ( whatever that means).

And what would you consider satisfactory evidence?

LordReed:
Like I say, it is good to hope.

I wonder what it would take for you to give your life to Christ.

LordReed:
You don join the prophecy queue abi. LoL

It isn't a prophecy... i'm just being hopeful

LordReed:
Happy new year bro.

I'm sure you'll give your life to Christ this year.

LordReed:
LoL so basically anything good you wish for yourself, no god told me so and so. That's good, I wish everybody all the good things of life.

Mr Reed happy new year.

did i even have any goals this year self

LordReed:
Ask in your church for a start.

lol

LordReed:
Bible scholars.

I'm sure that's not how they phrased it.. they couldn't have explicitly said that they copied one another

LordReed:
It's not a question of my saying so which is why I linked the relevant article.

OK oooo Mr Reed

This is serious

LordReed:
Well you asked for processes that don't have to do with the earth. Pulsars emit electromagnetic radiation that manifests as periodic radio waves, it even seemed like it was an intelligence broadcasting at first till it was discovered to be completely natural.

alright then.. if you say so

LordReed:
1 min in and I already have an issue. The issue I have is the narrator saying the Bible authors were "independent" sources. That is laughable. These authors are all Christian so what were they independent of? Also it has been established that Luke and Matthew both copied from Mark, so how exactly can you call them independent?

Who established that they copied eachother?

LordReed:
Well then, how many poor people are receiving answers?

How am i supposed to know that?

XXXXTENTACION:
What name do you call someone who loves to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxj8ag8Ntd4&list=PL3gdeV4Rk9EfL-NyraEGXXwSjDNeMaRoX&index=11&ab_channel=drcraigvideos What name do you call someone who loves to watch people suffer...

God doesn't love to watch people suffer as a matter of fact it hurts him to see people suffer.

But one day He will come and right all wrong

expertman:
Hmmmmm may heavens see her through this case oooo.

In all areas this babe is guilty already.

In other words

*MY LAGOS PEOPLE, HOW WELL DO YOU KNOW YOUR LAGOS?*

*> Job interview - Lekki, Ajah, VI*

*> Yahoo boys - Egbeda*

*> Gift items - Adeniji*

*> Coconut - Badagry*

*> Direct bus to anywhere - Oshodi*

*> Pepper - Mile 12*

*> Chelsea fans - Ajegunle*

*> Bread - Agege*

*> Chemicals - Ojota*

*> Agberos/Touts - Mushin*

*> Accident - Otedola Bridge*

*> Land for real estate - Ibeju Lekki*

*> Okada riders - Mile 2*

*> Traffic - Apapa*

*> Bus parks - Jibowu*

*> Stranded people - Berger*

*> Roadside beggars - Iyana Oba*

*> Best weed - Bariga, Ikotun*

*> Olosho - Pekas Allen Avenue*

*> Printing materials - Shomolu*

*> Fish - Epe*

*> Coffin - Mushin, Igbosere*

*> GNLD marketers - Iyana Ipaja, Meiran*

*> Electronics/DJ Mixes - Alaba*

*> Phones/Laptops - Computer Village Ikeja*

*> Beach -- Lekki, VI*

*> Street lights - Festac*

*> Suya - Obalende*

*> Indian men - Ilupeju*

*> Shoes and bags - Vespar*

*> Car spare parts - Ladipo*

*> Akube (second hand) - Yaba, Aswani*

*> Christmas clothes - Balogun*

*> Worst routes - Otta, Badagry, Sangotedo, Ikorodu*

*> Best place to live in - Ikoyi*

*> Best place to enjoy a plate of Amala - Shitta Surulere, Sabo Yaba*

*> Most likely place to lose your wallet - Oshodi, Ojuelegba*

I have to admit this is really impressive. You do know Lagos

Lemmy123:
Eweeeyyyy!

There was a time konji been hold man and man lost all his senses and had a skin to skin... Nothing else in the world matter in those fleeting moments until after the do. Blokors begin scratch man somehow and man was not understanding but man was scared it was any of the STIs at its early stage. Man Googled, man YouTubed, man was not sure what man's problem was until man didn't feel that scratching again, man vowed to never have a coitus session unprotected henceforth

good for man.







well-done man!!

XXXXTENTACION:
If God existed why does he allow christians to wallow in suffering...

You seem to forget that He also allowed His Son Jesus to suffer the worst suffering anyone has ever had

watch these videos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k64YJYBUFLM&list=PL3gdeV4Rk9EfL-NyraEGXXwSjDNeMaRoX&index=11&ab_channel=drcraigvideos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxj8ag8Ntd4&list=PL3gdeV4Rk9EfL-NyraEGXXwSjDNeMaRoX&index=11&ab_channel=drcraigvideos

LordReed:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsar

Lol... don't expect me to understand all those scientific stuff... i don't have a brain for science o

LordReed:
1. If Jesus is still alive and is accessible then we would have objective evidence of him being alive just like we likely have objective evidence that he lived sometime ago in Judea.

2. If Jesus rose from the dead with all the events that took place around the time we would have evidence of it from extra biblical sources. The supposed rising of other people who showed themselves in Jerusalem, the angel that supposedly rolled away the stone, the 500 people that supposedly saw him ascend, etc. None of this is captured any where else but the Bible.

3. No person I know of has sustained the kind of wounds Jesus supposedly had then stayed untreated for 72hrs and was revived after. Therefore I have no reason to believe this occurred at any time especially without evidence.

Watch these two videos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qhQRMhUK1o&list=PL3gdeV4Rk9EfL-NyraEGXXwSjDNeMaRoX&index=14&ab_channel=drcraigvideos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SbJ4p6WiZE&list=PL3gdeV4Rk9EfL-NyraEGXXwSjDNeMaRoX&index=14&ab_channel=drcraigvideos

LordReed:
If the other bodies were already autopsied then there'd already be incisions.

Lol... Mr Reed if any of those things were so the op would have noted them

LordReed:
Why can't they?

For example, say you're born in a rich family and whenever you need money all you do is call your dad and he gives you. But someone who for instance is born poor and needs money where do they turn to?