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ojimbo:
i may one day become a full developed atheist. But for now, am a proud agnostic,
i will rather die than to believe in religion

Its like you choose your belief based on what you see others do or based on your likes and dislikes. No be like that o bros.

Weah96:
So your gospel is empty, huh? It crumbles upon closer scrutiny.

Your opinion. It doesn't change anything. Thanks.

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PastorAIO:
can we apply your insights to all other religions too?

Even in christianity we still have our vaious discoveries and views of the bible and we keep seeking for more. Same could be the case in other religion. Answering a christian doesn't mean you ve made it and therefore should pop champagne. The search continues, the race continues. It is the end point of the race that matters most.

plaetton:
I am always happy when a Christian mentions personal experiences that cannot be validated by anyone else as their reason to believe in god.

But I am always surprised when they deny that god is created and exists in their minds.

Holding contradictory opinions or viewpoints = cognitive dissonance.

This does not describe my stand with God. Believe what you like.

Weah96:
Arrogance and pride. Now you know what happens when people die? Are you a native doctor?

Hahaha.

You're ruining any chance of a conversation by claiming to know everything, having read it in a book that we too have read.

You ve only spoken within the limit of your knowledge so i dont expect you to speak beyond what you know. My personal experiences are not up for debate because your words cannot invalidate those experiences in my life so i ve got no time to waste on irrelevances. Thanks.

michaelwestern:
This is exactly my point.

Must God do good everytime for him to exist?

If God decides to allow the so called pilgrims die, does that stop him from being God?

Must God answer prayers everytime for him to be God?

however, there are steps to follow to receive things from God.

You are right bro.

Whether my father/mother is good or bad, he/she is still my father/mother and i still love him/her. It is not his/her goodness or "badness" that determines whether he is my father/mother or not. My father may be a bad person in the eyes of some folks out there, but to us his children, he is a wonderful dad, a great dad.

Likewise, whether God is good or bad in the eyes of someone out there, he is still my heavenly father my God, my life and my all. A good and great God and I LOVE HIM SO MUCH.

Idrismusty97:
When theist says "Atheists hate god" they are literary saying "Let's dodge an argument we know we can't win by accusing them of having an emotional reaction to God instead of a rational criticism of us."

The issue about God is not one of who wins argument or not. I dont even need to argue God with anybody. My own is to preach the gospel to you. whether you believe it or not is entirely your business. The whole thing is like a race. If you are on the right track you will be happy you did at the end of the day and if you are on the wrong track, you also face whatever consequences at the end of the day.

michaelwestern:
It seems that most atheist on nairaland believe in God but they think he's a wicked God.

when trying to disprove the existence of God, their arguments will always be that why will a good God allow evil?

God is omnipotent and sovereign so whether he decides to do good or evil does not disprove His existence.

So for the so called atheists who are really just angry at God;

worry about yourselves first. before considering how a good God can send people to eternal damnation in hell, first consider if you are willing to burn eternally because of your incomplete knowledge about God.

know that God has the power to do whatever he likes whether good or evil, you cant dictate to God how you want Him to behave.

God has the power to send you to hell permanently irrespective of whether He's a good or bad God. So like i said earlier, worry about yourself.

Bro you are right. They are just wannabes. Their anger against God does not even change anything about God neither will their whatever unbelief wipe away God from existence. I just pray they will realize the futility of their anger towards God.

LordReed:
The doctors told you the hour of your death. LoL jokester.

Exactly bro. The guy dey act comedy.

AlfaSeltzer:
You may probably die before me.
How wonderful it is to know the hour.

You no wan die again go meet satan your papa? You dey look for person wey go die before you? Wayo man.

My life is in God's hand so its only him that determines what happen in my life.

nzeaji:
No mind them jare.

. Dem wan try film trick but the thing failed.

enm:
Psalm 138:2 (NKJV) "I will worship toward Your holy temple, and praise Your name for Your lovingkindness and Your truth; for you have magnified Your word above all Your name."

@op, in your trial you refused to give up on God by sticking to Jesus as your personal lord and saviour by refusing the eckist suggestion.

Your also discovered a secret about God and His word. And the secret is that God honour His words above His name.

What you did, is speaking the words of God back to Him concerning your situation and God was move to honour His words.

My dear, God bless you for this. Don't mind those who want to drag you into unneccesary argument here. Our walk with God is more of personal relationship. God does not deal with all of us exactly same way.

I thought that the nairaland management have stopped putting christian threads on the front page on sundays as a means of dealing with us. How come they ve put up to four threads on fp today? I think say una dey do hard man. Una for continue ya hard man na.

Goshen360:
It is not your continuous paying of tithe that healed you, you were healed in Christ 2000 years ago, you just didn't know your rights and inheritance in Christ. So, your mind was trained to believe it your tithe paying that healed you. There are millions of people who still pay tithe and die sick.

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You cant be serious bro. Why is it that he got healed when he challenged God with his tithe records in prayer? God could have ignored his prayer if his prayer was wrong. James 4;3 says- ye ask and receive not because ye ask amiss.

Obviously he didnt ask amiss. If he did, his prayers wouldnt have been answered. God moves in various ways in dealing with us. Our walk with God is more of a personal experience thing. There is nothing you are interpreting here that will mean much to him than this personal experience he had with God. Make una cool down for God o.

AlfaSeltzer:
When are you going to die?

Die your own first. Na your own die be the in-thing now so face am. I will die when it is God's time for me

texanomaly:
Whether he likes it or not, I will worry about him.

You have a beautiful heart. Just that he is an agent of satan so he wont understand

EvilBrain1:
Transitioning to atheism can be a very scary process. We've all been through it and we know it is never easy. But it is so worth it! It's hard to explain how, but trust me it is. It's like jumping into a swimming pool, you feel cold for 2 seconds then its fun all the way. So feel free to dive in, the water's fine.

Bro there is nothing fantastic about atheism as you are painting here. Man is an agent of discovery, always seeking for knowledge and whichever one you found you begin to feel you ve arrived. If atheism has the whole answer as you people always want us to believe, then we wouldnt have been having people going into it and coming out after several years. Yet we have quite a lot of people who have quit it and come back to Christianity.

The bottom line is that the whole thing is like a race. At the end of the day, those who are on the wrong track will face the consequences of it while those on the right track will be happy they did. Its not yet time to pop champagne. We are still in the race so keep a cool head bro.

MissMalia:
I rilly want 2 knw y God seems unfair and bias in the way he treat individuals......

How do you mean?

texanomaly:
Wow...sorry for giving a damn.

you thought you were dealing with a normal human being. We know this guy so don't worry yourself about him.

FrancisTony:
Question- What is the answer to a friend who says we are worshiping the Babylonian goddess Ishtar when we honor Mary? He uses Jeremiah 44 as proof because we call Mary the 'Queen of Heaven'.



Answer- The fact that a pagan deity was known as the queen of heaven doesn't mean this term can't rightfully be applied, in another sense altogether, to Mary.

The pagan king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar, is called the king of kings by Daniel (Dn 2:37), yet this doesn't preclude Jesus from being called by the same title (Rv 17:14; 19:16).

Since the destiny of all Christians is to reign as kings and queens with Christ in heaven (Eph 2:12; Rv 1:6; 5:10), and since Mary is the preeminent Christian, there's nothing wrong with giving her the title which Christ, the King of Kings, bestowed upon her in making Mary his mother.

www.catholic.com/quickquestions/how-do-i-answer-the-charge-that-catholics-worship-the-pagan-goddess-ishtar-because-we

O boy person no understand you o. In some of your posts you appear an atheist abusing God, then you also claim catholic here. Which one you dey sef?

Ranchhoddas:
Lies! Where is your source?

www.I don't believe it.com

plaetton:
Wow!
I am moved by your power of reasoning.

Na you sabi. I'm not arguing with you. I just stated my point. Its not a must that you ll accept it.

plaetton:
Big laugh.
What kind of silly reasoning is this?

Same way your so called rational reasoning is silly to me.

The atheism which you are noising about as the best is what some people have been into for several years, dumped it after and called it silly and came back to the christianity that you castigate.

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plaetton:
Again I agree with you that atheists tend to attack and mock posts centered on religious befiefs.
The reason is simple. You cannot advertise what you agree are irrational points of view on public forum without expecting a strong push back from your rational counterparts.

Our nation has already endured so much of that, much to the detriments of the entire black race.

Bro there are a lot of people who were once in your so called "rational reasoning" line but today they dumped atheism after many years and joined christianity. Both whites and blacks. Even in nairaland here we also have examples.

If atheism was so good and rational as you want us to believe why would people dump it after some years just like people dump chirstianity(which you branded irratinnal) after some years. The thing wey dey happen for Okeke house dey happen for Okafor house too.

AlfaSeltzer:
We all will.

Nope. My destination is heaven while you ve chosen hell. We are two parallel lines that can never meet except if you are ready to give your life to Jesus now that you are still alive. God help you. Amen.

AlfaSeltzer:
It's not easy to die but we'll get there. Have faith.

Ok. You will get there.

AlfaSeltzer:
yes

O boy wetin you still dey do for this world? I think say you go don die by now. Why you dey waste time to go see your master for hell? Wayo man.

edogho:
oga, did u read the scripture i cited? 2thes 1:6-9? d place agrees with u on the eternal judgement u mentioned. it says eternal destruction. revelation19 from 11 describes how the unrighteous will be killed off. proverbs 2:21 and psalms 37:9 says they'll be cut off. until u understand how hell came to be called a place of torment, u won't understand this simple truth. oya go in peace.

I dont need to argue your lies in describing eternal destruction as being killed off. Its a lie from satan himself that you are peddling here. Anyway we all will die someday and face the truth. You can continue to deceive yourself.