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Christianity Etc › Re: What Exactly Is God Trying To Teach Humans From The Story Of Job? by honourhim: 6:54am On Nov 09, 2014

herald9:
At the expense of human lives

Young man you still don't want to tell yourself the truth about the story of Job.

Satan was the one that destroyed Job's family.

God later replaced much more than satan destroyed. Pls stop twisting it.

An unfavourable condition to one person means a favourable condition to another person. That's life and you have to accept it that way. The death of Job's children gave way for another set of children to come into the family and they enjoyed much more than the former.

Again, God's purpose for creating everything he created is to manifest his glory. At any point he wants to use any of his works(creation) to manifest his glory(which is his reason for creating) he is justified.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Exactly Is God Trying To Teach Humans From The Story Of Job? by honourhim: 8:56pm On Nov 08, 2014

Dayvhid:
anyone with a valid explanation because i see no reason why a god would just decide to destroy a whole family just to prove to 'satan that yes this man is my best puppet.

You lied in your question. Go and read the story of job again and say the truth this time around before we can answer you.

Christianity Etc › Re: My Opinion And Big Question For Atheists by honourhim: 8:37pm On Nov 08, 2014

franklyn009:
She told me d next day dat after d program she could eat peppery food.

But der is no need of debating this with u when at d end u still would not believe.

Bro why do some of you waste time on atheists? Have you run short of what to preach that you now have yo engage in arguing with atheists? Una get time to waste.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 6:01pm On Nov 08, 2014

AfricanApple:
that means its not their fault then that they walked away from god

Forget about the nonsense blame game. We know all those their games.

Christianity Etc › Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 4:31pm On Nov 08, 2014

JackBizzle:
Who the hell do you think you are to say it is not open for debate?

You are on a public forum and you shouldnt expect nonsense to be given a free pass.

Christianity Etc › Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 4:24pm On Nov 08, 2014

JackBizzle:
Too emotional...you are so emotional.

Calm down and comprehend.

You are using subjective means as hard evidence for your beliefs.

I do not need to be there to witness all the scary/weird things that scared you to fear God. Your posts reek of confusion

Its not compulsory that you ll understand me. Like i said, that post is not open to debate. Believe whatever you want.

Christianity Etc › Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 4:09pm On Nov 08, 2014

JackBizzle:
Mysteries = God exists.

Funny.

My submission is not open for debate because you were not there with me to witness what i'm saying. Your response shows you dont even understand what i said but you just want to display your usual no-God crap. Do i sound like someone begging you to believe me? Pls Use your time for other things. Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 4:01pm On Nov 08, 2014

UyiIredia:
Could you please share some of these mysteries.

People close to me who have died and their actions before their death(including my brother). Words that they spoke etc. Some died in accidents, some died of sickness, some where killed by stray bullet, some just collapsed and died yet their actions and words ahead of the incident that killed them are so convincing that things are happening on the other side of life. Some of these people were good christians, some were not.

Uyi, these incidences are better witnessed than told. I cant even tell the stories well. Those who wants to believe the no-God crap can go ahead at their eternal detriment.

The one of death is just one part of the mysteries i ve seen in this life, there are other things too. Surely the no-God crap is not for people like me.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by honourhim: 2:42pm On Nov 08, 2014

Emusan:
Is like the same thing is affecting two of you.

So you just want me to say Yes/No; when my post has already answered that.

No wonder people who profess themselves to be wise became the opposite.

Its like you are not confident in your teaching. Why is a simple yes or no very difficult for you to say? Or you can still say you don't know.

Attacking people when they question your teaching is wrong bro. Go and learn how to teach first. You can't force people to swallow your teaching, you can only reason with them. Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by honourhim: 1:04pm On Nov 08, 2014

Emusan:
And you still want me to be specific, specific on what?

OK let me put it this way, God created Lucifer WITH ABILITY OF REASONING because Lucifer has A MIND likewise other Angels & Man and God knows that Lucifer can misuse this POWER OF REASONING but every created BEINGS that have MIND also have COMMANDMENTS TO FOLLOW IN OTHER NOT TO MISUSE IT.

Hope it's cleared now?

Your explanations are not wrong bro. What i mean by specific is to give a yes or no answer as he has indicated below.

johnydon22:
No i need a specific answer...DID GOD KNOW LUCIFER WILL TURN BAD BEFORE CREATING HIM ?? just answer YES or NO...no more long talks... just answer me yes or no shikena

Christianity Etc › Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 10:41am On Nov 08, 2014

herald9:
Predestined?

And what will they be doing in heaven?

Don't worry yourself about that since you don't have interest in going to heaven.

Christianity Etc › Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 10:20am On Nov 08, 2014

herald9:
When two elephants fight...the grass suffers...

This is how I was re-born

What I meant is...while these strong Christians are debating...

Do you know the psychological effects this debates has on those innocent, youthful minds of the viewers?

My discovery in this nairaland is that most of the people being easily converted to atheism here are small boys and girls who have not experienced anything in life so they are easily carried away by the empty teachings of the atheists.

Again, young people always have this attitude of grabing something new, something different from what they ve known so I understand what's happening to them.

Someone like me who have seen mysteries in this life cannot swallow the crap that there is no God. The convictions I ve had over the years are too strong to give way for the atheists crap.

I believe some of these youths will still dump atheism as time goes on and they experience some things in life. Especially those of them who are sincerely seeking for the truth. The ones who left because they find serving God burdensome may not come back.

I think I may partly agree with what @sisterme posted in one thread sometime ago that those of them predestined for heaven will surely come back to God while those who are not predestined may or may not come back.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 8:22pm On Nov 07, 2014

FrancisTony:
Read my Original Post.

Millions of people have proved it through the testimony of what God has done in their life but you'll ne'er accept it.

Bro leave that guy to believe whatever he wants. You ve made your points. God bless you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 8:20pm On Nov 07, 2014

Billyonaire:
OP, prove to me there is God.

We have passed this level here. Anything you want to believe that's your business.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are We Christians Not United? Why The Division? by honourhim: 7:21pm On Nov 07, 2014

Ukutsgp:
and how we can speak the same thing in terms of doctrines since we have one bible and one holyspirit.

When the true love of God dwells within us, t we ll be humble enough to learn from one another and begin to make adjustments where neccesary.

Its not only church leaders that will bring about this positive change. You and I can do it.

There was a video clip of church leaders conference in the US. Pope francis sent in his message and supported them. He agreed with them that the barier of denominatIon be broken. He embraced unity. The move is already on. God ll help us.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are We Christians Not United? Why The Division? by honourhim: 7:05pm On Nov 07, 2014

Ukutsgp:
it seems u are now playing with sand like children. typing rubbish.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Type Of Reality Do You Accept And For What Reasons?.... by honourhim: 6:26pm On Nov 07, 2014

GooseBaba:
Hahahahahahaha... No you did not just ask that... After the hot slap vibrate your cheek.. You grabbed your cheek in disbelief... Your eyes watery, you fell out of your slippers while screaming yeeparipa..!!

That is not conditioning because there were witness asking me, bros why you slap am like that you wan kill am.?.. Then I said Noooooo, what you saw was no slap it was an hand shake from the fourth realm. You all have been conditioned to think your cheek is your cheek but it's actually your hand..

And why we were having that conversation a drunkard staggered in our midst and vomit his stomach contents. Every body shout ayama..!! Only you said that smells like baked potatoes and I bet it will will taste great. You all have been conditioned to think that's vomit.

Guy abeg leave craze man lane for craze man..

. You wan kill me with laugh.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by honourhim: 5:52pm On Nov 07, 2014

Emusan:
Your problem is pathetic if you can't find my two post comprehensive enough to digest by asking this question.

Bro I think he wants you to be more specifc in answering the quesion he asked.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by honourhim: 3:14pm On Nov 07, 2014

@Emusan,

A few questions for you my brother.

1. Do you believe that God sees the end from the beginning as the bible said?

2. If your answer to question one is yes then does that not mean that he was aware that Lucifer will rebel before creating him?

3. If he was aware, why then did he create him?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by honourhim: 3:03pm On Nov 07, 2014

johnydon22:
so God created the beautiful angel lucifer so he can turn bad, and he will send him down to earth

It is very possible my brother. Except for those who want to say that God is no more all knowing and he does not see the end from the beginning.

johnydon22:
who will you blame the car that hit someone or the person driving

Honestly my bro the issue of who to blame or not is irrelevant here since the blame can't change anything.

johnydon22:
review all this and tell me how it corresponds with God being all good, all loving, all merciful, all just and loves man so much...its impossible

In human context you are right. But does God see it that way? Can God's love and mercy for man be defined outside God's nature? Can the word mercy be defined without error being part of the definition? For God to be associated with the word mercy shows that the evil that came into the world didn't take him unawares.

For me I think that His love and mercy for us lies in the fact that he has made redemption plan for us knowing that without the redemption plan, his concept of creation will not be favourable to us, we will all be doomed. Yet he must create and he must create according to his concept. That's the way I see it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are We Christians Not United? Why The Division? by honourhim: 12:32pm On Nov 07, 2014

italo:
So you believe God's Church has been led astray from what God wants it to teach?

The issue here is not how to merge everyone to your Roman chUrch. Its about how we can see one another as brethren, in love, irrespective of the various divides.

If you can't grab it then fly away here and stop making noise.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by honourhim: 12:05pm On Nov 07, 2014

johnydon22:
so satan led man to sin, would he have done that if he was not hurled down here in the first place. . . you said God planned it all so the redemption plan can take place... but why not just dont let it happen and man wouldnt sin and no need for the redemption scene to take place... how can you know your child will be hit by a car instead of preventing it, you let the child get hit in hope to take him to hospital....hmmmmmm LOVE!!!

This leads us back to my earlier points. What if God's concept in creation is to have the world as a place of good and evil while heaven is a place of total good and hell fire as a place of total evil? And if this is his concept of creating the world, then someone must have to be an instrument or channel through which evil will enter the world hence he sent the devil down here.

Every creator has a concept before creating. Whether the concept is appreciated or not is a different matter.
Every concept will always have those who appreciates it and those who don't so its not strange when some people seem to kick against God with regards to his concept(the world).

God has created everything according to his concept. The best we can do is to check the options he has put on ground and make a wise choice. Rebelling against him is never going to work out any good for anybody at the end of the day because we can't do anything to him. For me, this is how I see God and creation.

My dear I'm ready to flow with God by his grace. He is the boss, suprerior to us all and there's nothing we can do about it. We are all strangers here and we just have to play by the rules on the ground if we must get through. Cheers bro.

Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by honourhim: 10:56am On Nov 07, 2014

AnodaIT:
This is what half education does to a supposedly homo sapiens.

You claim to be a Christian but you don't even know the fundamentals of what you believe. You are trying to understand spirituality with your carnal mind.

Go ahead and turn atheist, we have enough fools already pretending to be Christians, one out to give thousands peace of mind would be welcome

Bro your reply is wrong pls. Can't you help him out?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Explain This? by honourhim: 10:43am On Nov 07, 2014

Antivist:
Oh, my. You've really missed the entirety of a basic Atheistic viewpoint, haven't you? We're not saying that these events were visual illusions or clever trickery. We're saying that none of it ever happened. The reason you've probably heard us talk about "fabricating" magic tricks is because we see your book of lies as, simply, that; a book of lies. When we hear that you think some guy built a gigantic boat, and put two of every "kind" on it (7 of every "clean" "kind", we tend to think (try it some time. Thinking is fun.) "That sounds like enough bull**** to feed bulls their own **** for centuries!" It is then your job to provide us with evidence that what you're claiming is true. I'm seriously asking here. Please. Please provide me with your best evidence that the bible is true and that Jesus is the son of god. I legitimately want to see good, solid evidence.

Thanks.

-Antivist

You are still saying the same thing. It is your so called lies that my submission addressed. People who were so intelligent to fabricate your so called lies in such a dark age could not identify the contradictions? Even with all their intelligences?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by honourhim: 7:35am On Nov 07, 2014

johnydon22:
then assuming i agree with what you say, earth is a place of good and bad and heaven only good while hell total evil... then the purpose becomes keep man in a place of both evil and bad, no its not bad enough add the devil to it.

Satan was the one who led man into evil. That's why I said that these happenings are for purposes. Satan fulfilled that purpose of leading man to evil and he is still doing that today thereby making the world a place of both evil and good. Rev 13:8 shows that the redemption plan was made from the foundation of the world. This shows that God knew that man will sin even before he created him. For him to have gone ahead to create shows its part of his plan. Except if we are saying that some of these things took God unawares. Its just my view which may be wrong. God knows the best.

johnydon22:
. then later judge man who is in a place of good and bad for being bad and throw him inside hell fire.

But its not everybody that is going to hell. Those who choose heaven are also making heaven. His concept in this case is choice.

johnydon22:
as long as we are on this earth we can never be totally good or totally bad, we can never be like God. like you said he is in a place of total goodness so he can never be bad....
.

We are not going to heaven because of our being good but by accepting Jesus into our lives and leaning on his grace daily. Tho some preachers say it as if its by our goodness. No its not. Our righteousness is as filthy rag before God. Heaven is very easy to make by God's grace. People think its hard to make. Its not.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Explain This? by honourhim: 11:26pm On Nov 06, 2014

Peterken05:
so your god talks to people before? Cure diseases? Did a lot of big miracles then but today he only shows himself on toast, fishes, skies and trees.

Last bullet

'in the entire 1st christian century, jesus is not mentioned by a single greek or roman historian, religion scholar, politician, philosopher or even poet. His name never occurs in a single inscription and it is never found in a single piece of private correspondedce. Zero! Zip references!'

Dr. Bart Erhman
Professor of Religious Studies at the North Carolina Chapel Hill

This does not answer the questions op asked and it does not answer mine. If you dont have answers to give you can keep mute.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by honourhim: 11:13pm On Nov 06, 2014

johnydon22:
isnt prevention better than cure why would God do that just to prove his mercy and wrath whereas he could have just snapped his finger there would be no satan.
why create us if it was just to fulfill a purpose where he proves his wrath and mercy, so we are just lab rats right? . . . the idea of being a just God there must be positive and negative side that will manifest in his nature: are you by any means saying God is not all good
he created us, created the fruit of knowledge forbade man from eating it instead of not creating it at all, then allows the devil to rule us, his son dies before we could be forgiven of a sin that was committed by adam and eve not us. then later later he will come and vanquish the devil, retake the earth and punish the devil and humans that sin!!!

You see this is why i said that all these are for a purpose. God is a creator, for him to allow what he could ve prevented to happen indicates that there is a purpose.

Dont you think that being a creator who knows the end from the beginning all these things that have happened and are happening could actually be his concept about the world- a place of evil and good, while heaven is a place of total good and hell a place of total evil?

Again in line with this, dont you think that creations are structured to manifest the person of God, both his attributes and concept?

All that I'm saying are my own views.though. We are just reasoning out things.
Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Explain This? by honourhim: 9:52pm On Nov 06, 2014

Dapo777:
Who knows?

They probably wrote stuffs that supports a wide varieties of beliefs hence producing the contradictions,people of those days don't care about contradictions, they just want to believe something, It's human nature to want to believe something.
.

You are not sure of what you are saying. You just dey talk dey go. Empty talk.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by honourhim: 9:30pm On Nov 06, 2014

johnydon22:
thanks bro i appreciate... whose purpose and which purpose exactly...

God's purpose. To manifest Wrath and mercy which are part of his attributes according to the scripture.

Without satan's rebelling God's wrath couldnt have been made manifest. Without sin by man God's mercy couldnt have been made manifest.

Also being a just God, there has to be positive and negative side that will manifest his just nature.

My humble views

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Explain This? by honourhim: 8:57pm On Nov 06, 2014

alentyno:
The bible is fake; God is just an imaginary being propagated by blind christians; the bible is a book of fables
We've heard this phrases a million times

Now I have a question: why on earth did the people who formed the bible (according to atheists) allow mistakes and contradictions to be in it since their main aim was to use the bible as a tool to control people

Why didn't they modify it?

Why didn't they blot out the contradictions

Why?

I need honest answers please.

Tags: dapo777 plaetton musKeeto peterken05 et all

Guys be bold enough to answer. Don't overlook this question like cowards would. Thanks

I wonder how people in such dark age were able to "fabricate"(according to atheists) all the miracles and mysterious events, words of wisdom and prophecies (that came to pass) in the bible. And with all the centuries that have passed with its mighty men of wisdom, the bible remains valid and widely accepted by billions of people. Even in our generation, does it take long to expose false information? yet the bible remains a valid book that continues to receive unlimited acceptance till tomorrow.

And men who had such a great wisdom to "fabricate" the bible could not see the contradictions that atheists are pointing out now? Nonsense

Dont mind the foolish phrase of the unbelievers. They are just trying hard to destroy the truth of the bible that is kicking at their conscience everyday. This they cannot do, by the grace of God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Send Satan To Earth??? by honourhim: 7:49pm On Nov 06, 2014

johnydon22:
i have been wondering, why did God send satan and other fallen angels down to earth.. why didnt he just kill him off or send him to one remote galaxy too far away from the milky way galaxy. so he threw satan down at us and started playing bet with the devil over souls is earth the only planet their is

Bro dont you see purpose in all these things? Since God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, it then means that none of this happenings(starting from the fall of Lucifer to the creation story and to the birth of Jesus etc) took him by surprise. He was aware before creation because he sees the end from the beginning. Going by what i ve said it means that all these were structured to fulfill purpose. My humble view.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland's Reward To Me by honourhim: 7:25pm On Nov 06, 2014

na wa for Seun. Does he even understand that he is not paying us to be here rather our presence here pays him?

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