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Correct men are using their intellect to analyse science, maths and economics. This one is using his intellect to decipher fables.

This our board member and club secretary David Barnard too like to interfere with Emenalos job.

He is the reason Chelsea don't sign midfielders.

As you can see from the 1st picture from Chelsea website (not newspaper that has been sued before oh!), I mean DIRECT FROM CHELSEA WEBSITE, it says he has "overall responsibility for administration of the FOOTBALL DEPARTMENT including TRANSFER AGREEMENTS".

You can also see him sealing several transfers below without Emenalos approval.


Griffon, please add him to Emenalo Scapegoat Association, along with Marina Graianovska, Ron Gourlay, Mike Forde, RDM, Benitez, JM, Hiddink, and I Go Dye.

Here is Ron Gourlay concluding transfer negotiations for Torres and Demba Ba.

I am giving you Emenalo apologists another bogeyman to absolve him with, the direct like-for-like predecessor of Marina, CEO for CEO, yet this nigga is rejecting Ron Gourlay.

Please accept Ron Gourlay. We are fighting for his right to be inducted into the Emenalo scapegoat association.

Or is it that when we start calling too many names, the utterly asinine defence of Emenalo starts to look like what it is - a product of foolish mind.

We no go gree oh. Ron Gourlay must be included!

Even Akpororo wants to apply to join this long list of people who've been handcuffing Emenalo.

See me see trouble.

He is using the current Chief Executive Marina as reason why Emenalo can't sign midfielders.

I have also given him the former Chief Executive, Ron Gourlay as an alibi for Emenalo, he is rejecting it.

Whom the Gods want to kill, they first make mad.

Goodnight.

Nihilist:
You are an absolute fool.

Mike Forde was sat on the board and his job description was listed as 'being responsible for player transfers'

He left, Marina came in and her job description includes ' being responsible for player transfers'


You continue to Gaffe.
Your article posted states that Benitez was having problems with the club Hierarchy regarding signing players....it does not mention who.

If this is a lie, kindly produce the excerpt from the article you posted mentioning Emenalo by name as the guy causing trouble.

But since you want to use The Times, let us use The Times.

This article states that Marina has " Complete Control over Player Transfers" right in the first paragraph too

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article4533467.ece

So can you please explain how your article implicates Emenal?


I'm still waiting for your answer to my original question

You must be an eediot using creative licence to link Mike Forde and Marina.

Ron Gourlay was Chief Executive before Marina and handled negotiations same as Marina or any other CEO like Ivan Gazidis or Ed Woodward.

Don't be ashamed to claim Ron Gourlay as part of your campaign. He is another bogeyman I have given you to defend Emenalo with.

If Marina the Chief Exec can be used to defend Emenalo, her predecessor as Chief Exec Ron Gourlay certainly must have handcuffed Emenalo, unless your level of stewpidity has now reached single digit IQ stage.

Please claim Ron Gourlay as part of your asinine campaign to absolve Emenalo. We must follow your logic to its conclusion.

Meanwhile put your specs on, and read that Times article again. Don't stop reading till you reach Emenalos name and tell me whether he didn't reject Benitez request for a central midfielder and tell him to recall Josh Mceachran if he wants a midfielder.

It is either Emenalo is utterly incompetent; or he will only start upgrading the midfield properly when his brother Mikel leaves. I am hoping it is the latter and not the former.

Let's move on. . . .

Nihilist:
Mike forde was clearly Marina's predecessor on the board.

Ron Gourlay was Marinas predecessor as Chief Exec you clown.

So if Marina has been handcuffing Emenalo from 2014 till date, then of course Ron Gourlay was handcuffing him from 2011-2014.

And of course, you still have Mike Forde to throw into the mix as another bogeyman. And dont forget UEFA Homegrown rules, RDM, Benitez, JM, Hiddink and Stella Damascus.

This clown probably had his head in his anús when Benitez asked for central midfielder in 2013, and Emenalo shut him down. Benitez had to come up with the bright idea of using David Luiz in midfield to circumvent Emenalos opposition, which saved our season.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/chelsea/article3638755.ece

You are a clueless clown. Of course, go ahead and tell me Times Newspaper is one of the newspapers that has been sued in the past (which newspaper hasn't?); while waiting for me to produce list of Emenalos targets from Chelsea website till you grow grey hairs on your scrotum.

When I said some fools have nothing between their head and like forming ITK, you must be the worst example I have come across.

Nihilist:
Emenalo might be utterly incompetent, but he will have eyes. We currently have only 3 first team CMs. 4 if you count RLC.

You honestly believe that the head of scouting would not have discussed with the manager and his extensive scouting and pushed for CMs?

This is why when you too were busy sucking shekpe keepers d~ck, some of us were following arguments between Emenalo and RDM and Benitez over central midfielders.

Of course Emenalo was discussing CMs with his managers. . . . to tell them to shut up and face front when they asked for CMs.

Like I said before, Mikel must get space to play.

All of a sudden, you went and found an American-Russian lawyer lady who doesn't know the difference between fullback and midfielder and only became CEO in 2014 to pin the blame on.

Oh and before her it was Ron Gourlay in her position handcuffing Emenalo.

And before 2013 it was Mike Forde.

All 3 somehow aligned with a great phobia for midfielders along with 4 managers who have worked under Emenalo.

I have told you that when you finish exhausting all bogeymen for Emenalo, feel free to use an Emenalo apologists excuse who told us in 2013 that Emenalo has not updated his midfield because UEFA Homegrown Rules have exhausted all the space in the squad for midfielders. It applied in 2013 and it can still apply for you today in 2016.

No excuse under the sun will sound foolish to us, because we have heard worse. If you like, blame our lack of midfielders on oil price.

Like I said, when you finish your display, ask your kinsmen to come and carry you from the market. I will no longer entertain your utter foolishness because the sane man caught arguing with the mad man in the market will be mistaken for a fellow mad man.

Nihilist:
Oga why can't you just answer the simple question


You told us that Marina determine the right price


Please tell us how.

My guy there's only so long we can entertain foolishness. Allow this thread move on abeg.

Nihilist:
You keep raising points that you cannot actually answer.

1. If Emenalo actually raised an Alarm, how would you Mr Griffon know?

2. Back to the shortlist, you still haven't answered if you've seen Emenalo's shortlist. How do you know who was recommended?

Logically you've already lost the argument. Like I said earlier, Ibime saw where it was going and ran. Someone who has been offering his unrequested opinion for the last 48 hours suddenly decides that he no longer has anything to say

The argument has now gone from the initial Emenalo 'failed to sign' and 'Emenalo failed to present a vision' to Emenalo 'failed to recommend'

All I need from you now is that Emenalo your actual proof that Emenalo failed to recommend

Griffon what is your mate talking about?

He was not following when RDM and Benitez asked Emenalo for midfielders and Emenalo not only failed to recommend but fought with the managers over it. Wanyama was one example.

Or he forgot for example that our own scout Guy Hillion has been begging for Chelsea to sign Gianelli Imbula for the last 4 years and somehow Imbula keeps moving to lesser clubs but not Chelsea.

From Mike Forde to Ron Gourlay to Marina, both past and present, even the dead are handcuffing Emenalo.

Abeg leave this man.

A tuoro omara, o mara, a tuoro ofeke, o fenye ishi n'ohia.

Leave this guy with his matter. Our father did not send us to the market to entertain market woman.

Nihilist:
At this point, I think we would like to hear your opinion on HOW Marina determines a fair price

Bros leave this thing, make we clear space for other Chelsea fans to discuss other matters.

You can imagine this stewpid niggas thought process.

It came like a light bulb in his head in the middle of the night:

"Oh I've just found out that Marina is involved in financial negotiations"

"So I will use it to prove that Marina is the reason why Emenalo has developed a team with a weak spine."

SMH

Nihilist:
Very good.

So basically Emenalo can recommend a player, but Marina can choose NOT to sign him? Yes or No please

You no dey tire for this eediocy?

You think you are discussing with your fellow double digit IQ niggas asking foolish questions like the above.

It seems that before this discussion, you did not know that CEOs do handle financial negotiations, from Ivan Gazidis to Marina to Ed Woodward.

You maybe thought you were "educating" us when you stumbled across such information on Chelsea website not knowing you were exposing your childish stupidity like a child who learnt to spell for the first time and couldn't wait to tell every adult about it..

In answer to your question above, if the price is reasonable Marina will not walk away from the negotiating table for any player Emenalo recommends.

It is just unfortunate that every time Emenalo recommends a winger, the price is fair to Marina. . . .but every time he recommends a midfielder, the selling club starts asking fir £100m.

That is why Emenalo has been unable to strengthen his midfield.

LordEmperoris1:
Am +1 today my blue brothers

Happy birthday gee.

pamcode:
Well it Looks like Ibime believes that other parties are not that adept at football ie Emenalo is the only one with footie knowledge or at least has superior football know-how. He is the one supposed to scout players urgently needed for the club not flair players. Which is why he has been consistently hammering on too much wingers and poor midfield(Central/defensive midfield ) . That is why Emenalo is been blamed

Not only that but Emenalo is the one with the power to make signings, unlike what anyone is telling you.

Technical Director na Technical Director, never mind some clueless ninja inventing powers for Marina that she does not have. Marina is there to do financial negotiations, not to scout and recommend no phucking players.

nateevs:
Na today this argument don dey? The task of trying to explain the hierarchy of personnel in Chelsea started 3 years ago. If Nihilist must know, the response of A40's, posted to counter your points, was at the time in response to my attempts to dampen this fire years ago.

This is the thing with Ninjahs like Nihilist and Dayo. They see beyond the popular headlines.

Haba bros, you know say you be my guy. My original Emenalo apologist! I come in peace.

2013 was a long time ago. Back then we didn't have much press about transfer dealings but since then we have overwhelming reports of players recommended by Emenalo.


RDM has come and gone
Benitez has come and gone
JM has come and gone
Hiddink has come and gone
Mike Forde has come and gone (and the club didn't consider his role important to replace)
Ron Gourlay has come and gone.

The new Bogeyman used to defend Emenalo is now Marina (because she selects players abi?)

Roman is still there as a bogeyman


But remember, if all the above fails, feel free to encourage him to use the final defence for Emenalo - EU rules on Homegrown players has left no space in the squad to strengthen the midfield.

I am even happy to contribute more inventive and innovative excuses for Emenalo to add to all of the above if you allow me to join you on the 'Emenalo apologists' side of the debate.

Yours peacefully, Ibime.

crazymommy:
WTF!!!please remove Dj cuppy from that list......she earns a lot from shows in UK...she might not be popular in Nigeria but she earns a lot in her Dj career generally....

How much does she earn per show?

Abeg comot dia.

What she has earned from music does not amount to what she spends promoting herself.

Reno made some good points but his duplicitous omission of the fact that Nigeria overtaking South Africas economy in 2013 was due to a rebasing of GDP from $270bln to $510bln, which was a purely academic exercise. He duplicitously tries to pass that off as an achievement of the GEJ govt so his submission must be taken with a pinch of salt.

raumdeuter:
You cannot compare Bayern with Chelsea

Bayern has as decision makers ex footballers and people who have a deep knowledge of the game.


Roman = Rummenigge (In some cases Beckenbauer and Ulli). You cannot compare their football knowledge

Before we now talk of Sammer and Reschke.

Before getting to the coach

That is the difference and where you should leave it.

Roman does not care or has never heard of Cristian Atsu, Marko Marin, Adrian, Kenedy or Victor Moses and will not care if Emenalo used that same money to buy Wanyama, Kante, Weigl . . . .or even Meireles as we have done in the past.

There is what we blame Roman for, and there is what falls squarely on the TD, another incompetent ninja in the Chelsea structure to add to Romans lack of football knowledge.

When we read of managers arguing over the need for a central midfielder, it is Emenalo we read arguing with them, not Roman.

raumdeuter:
Who were those great in that 2010/2011 midfield as at 2011.

That you didnt become midtable could be because your attackers were better or your defenders werent leaking like currently

Diggz is mistaken.

In 2010/11, Essien had a great season.

Then you could rely on Lampard and Essien gidigba as two of the top CMs in the league.

Essien had his 2nd ACL injury on the 1st day of preseason in 2011 and that was why AVB asked for Meireles.

So 2010/11 midfield is not to be compared with what came after.

raumdeuter:
What happened to Raul Merreiles, Oriol Romeu, Oscar, van Ginkel. What type of midfielders are those?

Oscar is an AM, thats why I didn't mention Gotze.

Meireles came in 2011 under request from AVB, and was inexplicably sold 1 year later (with Essien), yet no replacement found.

Romeu came in 2011 under request from AVB, not someone you call 1st team signing and has been out on loan for yonkers

Ginkel was signed as an AM and Mourinho converted him to DM, again not for the 1st team and has been out on loan for yonkers

Since you claimed Lampard was the only decent central midfielder from 2011 to 2014, tell me whether the TD was doing his job.

In the same time, I can list 15 AM/wingers that Emenalo signed.

So again I ask, what policy is being pursued?

raumdeuter:
Who should take the credit for Fabregas and Matic?

Mourinho pushed for those.

Those are the only 1st team central midfield signings Chelsea have made since 2012 and it took a manager of power to wrestle momentary control to push that through

In the same time frame Bayern have signed 1. Javi Martinez, 2. Tiago Alcantara, 3. Xabi Alonso, 4. Sebastian Rode, 5. Joshua Kimmich and 6. Arturo Vidal in addition to what they already had before and Lahm and co who can play there.

Tell me what policy is being pursued here. If Bayern TDs see manager after manager struggling to rely on David Luiz and Kurt Zouma in midfield and begging for central midfield signing, yet consistently argue against it and ignore that area, what policy will you say they are pursuing?

timbros:
Ibime I think the reason why you see Nihilist mentioning Forde, Marina etc and even Roman in his debates is because he wants to prove that Emenalo doesn't have the absolute decision making in all those flop signings.

Remember the original debate started with almost everyone blaming Emenalo for everything happening in Chelsea now, starting from 2012 abi '11. Nihilist is trying to prove that there are names higher than Emenalo at some point in decision making during this period hence the names.

@Griffon what do you think, who has more power in decision making as per player signing, Emenalo or Marina? Who of the two has more power to accept or reject a player to be signed?

Roman will not turn down £10m request from Emenalo to sign Wanyama if Emenalo asked for him as per RDM request, yet give him dozens of millions to buy Victor Moses, Cristian Atsu, Marko Marin and co. There is a clear policy over the years to neglect the spine of the team. Those of us who have longer memories back to 2007 may argue that the sparse midfield is a policy to clear space for his brother Mikel who supported him when he came to Chelsea when everyone was looking down on him, but that is an argument for another day.

Mike Forde is not a factor

Marina handles financial negotiations when Roman agrees to fund Emenalo targets.

Technical Direction is the job of the technical director.

Nihilist:
I think I've been very clear on my Emenalo stance.

1. You can't blame for him for a team's slump from 1St to 16th. That is quite daft as he doesn't manage the first team.

2. You can't blame him exclusively for not signing the players you want. That is also quite daft because the Chelsea board clearly outline their internal structure and chain of command on their website.

3.If you insist that Emenalo was responsible for the teams slump due to poor recruiting, what happened to the likes of Lukaku DeBruyne, Costa, Courtouis etc?

4. If you insist that the Chelsea website contains false information, how do you know that the papers are right?

If that constitutes jumping from pillar to post, then we really should mourn for your mind.

Quit all your jagbajantis.

On one hand Emenalo signed good players, but on the other hand it was Mike Forde, Issa Hayatou and Marina Graianovska who signed them (because you read on Chelsea website she is involved in transfer negotiations)

When you are finished with your display, ask your kinsmen to come and carry you from the market.

Dongorgon5:
You call yourself technical director, you think ramires and mikel pivot can make us win the league.
Na rubbish player emenalo dey scout.
Marko marin the geman messi, where is he now?
Christian atsu nko? Dem plenty like dat.........
I need emenalo's contact, I get one akowonjo messi for him to sign.

A Technical Director has been seeing structural faults at Chelsea for 4 years, and someone is telling us he does not have the power of a Technical Director, and we should blame Marina, a lady from USA who has never kicked a football in her life. Does Marina scout and recommend players?

The TD should kindly step aside for Marina if he doesn't know his work.

pamcode:
Looks like a tug of war to me. First party says Emenalo is to take the lion share of the blame for how we found ourselves with such a weak, thin and spineless squad. The other party says Emenalo isnt to be blamed because he isn't the one that that recruits play or doesn't have a final say in recruiting players.

He has no point.

He is an obsessed nigga who wakes up to see whatever Ibimes view is, then looks for the opposite position and tries to sound smart. It did not start today.

These are his arguments.

(1.) He started off claiming the managers are at fault
(2.) Then he switched to claiming Emenalo made good signings
(3.) if thats not working, blame Mike Forde
(4.) Oh here's another diversion. . . let's blame Marina the CEO for choosing players (because he read she is involved in player transactions ie agreeing contracts)

When all this isn't getting through, pull out the nuclear option which everyone would agree with. . .

(5.) Blame Roman!!!


You see how a nigga keep jumping from pillar to post?

When a madman goes naked in the market, it his kinsmen that feel the shame, not him.


Yes we all know the bad side of Romans interference (especially foisting incompetent people like Emenalo on competent people).

However Roman did not tell Emenalo to go and buy Marko Marin, Christian Atsu, Victor Moses, Adrian, Kenedy, Schurrle, Willian, Oscar and 100 other wingers, and tell Emenalo he cannot have £10m to buy Wanyama when RDM asked for him. Neither did Roman handcuff him from buying any central midfielders, even the ones that cost less than Victor Moses to strengthen the spine of the team.

Every man on the street knows the job of a Technical Director, especially one as powerful as Emenalo, yet one clown will be jumping from pillar to post blaming Mike Forde, Marina Graianovska and Issa Hayatou.

A ninja just woke up and decides that he's been following the politics of Chelsea FC since 2011, just by looking at Chelsea website and reading out of context.

Telling us about Mike Forde, a ninja whose job role was so irrelevant, the club didn't bother to replace his role when he left.

This is the difference between someone who knows and follows something and someone who just woke up one day and decided to form ITK.

The defence of an Emenalo apologist is always:

(1.) Claim he signed good players

When confronted that good players does not make a good team

(2.) Blame the manager

When shown that the manager had difference of opinion on the team make-up, bring out the nuclear option.

(3.) Deflect attention to Mike Forde, Eugene Tennenbaum or Sani Abacha.

Now a ninja is telling us how board structure works, while the whole world is showing us multiple examples of how Emenalo is the key decision maker, and we cannot find one example for Mike Forde.

It's like a child who woke up one morning decided to "educate" us that Marina did not sit on Chelsea board in 2013, when we all know that she had taken over many of Ron Gourlays functions 2 years before she became an executive.

This is the difference between a man who knows something, and a man who woke up to form ITK.

They say a child who decides to fight his father will get blinded by his fathers loincloth.

I leave with the words of A40 in 2013 when ITK had not even known who Mike Forde is.

A40:
Mike Forde? Da phuck is Mike Forde? You think Emenalo goes through Mike Forde to table his petitions to Roman? 

Because in all of Chelsea's wheeling and dealing in the transfer market not one mention of Mike Forde is usually made! Not by the coach,not by anybody!! Chelsea is not the secret service if he played a fundamental role chances are we would know.

Even the common man on the streets knows Emenalo is RA's attack dog. You can also tell us Diya was Abacha's vice but we all know Al Mustapha was not answerable to Diya.

Griffon:
This is nothing new and wouldn't be the first time Emenalo would be putting the manager in the picture. He did it with Rafa Benitez. Check this out:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2237633/Frank-Lampard-Ashley-Cole-leave-says-Rafa-Benitez.html#ixzz2D8vTphPs

Lampard and Cole can leave, says Rafa leaving Chelsea old guard in tatters

Chelsea legends Frank Lampard and Ashley Cole are to leave at the end of the season after Rafa Benitez confirmed the break-up of the Champions League-winning team.

Both players are out of contract next summer and Chelsea’s new coach admitted they are unlikely to stay at Stamford Bridge beyond the end of the season.

Asked directly if it was the end of a glorious era for the pair at Chelsea, Benitez said:

‘I think so, that is the case at the moment.

‘I am only here for seven months. If it is for two or three years then maybe I would have an influence.

‘Sometimes you are in a difficult position as manager because there’s too much to decide on, so it’s better to have a technical director sometimes.’


A manager under duress. Oga fear Emenalo

Haba bros. Emenalo can't be responsible for such decisions. It must have been Mike Forde. Can't you see his job description on Chelsea website? Those decisions can only be made by board members such as Mike Forde, not Emenalo.

Never mind what Benitez, RDM and Mourinho tell you. They are all liars. Mike Forde is the decision maker. Can't you see on Chelsea website?

Every manager has had problems with the squad Emenalo has put together for Chelsea.

Will come back to DiMatteo later, but quick look at Benitez first.

EMENALO vs BENITEZ


http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/rafa-benitez-on-the-brink-at-chelsea-after-1585522


And while the Spaniard is not likely to be sacked yet – with fingers also being pointed at technical director Michael Emenalo for Chelsea’s unbalanced and under-sized squad – anything other than victory at home to Wigan on Saturday could see the trigger pulled.

That only increases the pressure on ex-Liverpool boss Benitez and his players, with matters not being helped by suggestions of a rift between him and Emenalo, who played a key role in persuading ­ Abramovich to appoint the ‘interim manager’ in the first place.


When Benitez bemoaned the state of the squad – with injuries, suspensions and the Africa Cup of Nations – he only had 14 senior outfield players available for the trip to Tyneside – Emenalo is believed to have felt “insulted”.


I wonder why every manager has transfer issues with Emenalo and not Mike Forde like one eediot is trying to tell us.

This fool keeps repeating himself.

When an eediot does not know his club, and trying to sound intelligent.

Sitting on the board does not give you any power to make signings any more than Eugene Tenenbaum or David Barnard.

FOOL, for the last time, show me link that Mike Forde has ever signed any player for Chelsea.

I will give you all day fool. We are waiting.

Nnysher:
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And these were the heated responses from respondents all over the world, including some Ugandans all the way from Kampala:

You quoted 2 Ugandans who can't speak English and a bunch of IPOD youths. Well done.

Nihilist:
Bwahahaha

Now this fat turd has turned to grammar discussion, highlighting multiple 'We's like we're in French class.


This is the craziest thing I ever read. A rotund accountant trying to argue directly with the words of Mike Forde who actually worked for Chelsea as a Director of Football operations for 6 whooping years

The man described his daily job in his own words, yet one armpit scratching, fufu-scoffing, so called pundit is attempting to disprove these words by newspaper articles.

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. This nigga is the punchline to a very dry joke.

Show me one single player that Mike Forde has been even rumoured to have recommended. If you show me that, I concede the discussion immediately.

I have shown several links to show what Mike Fordes brief is, what Emenalos brief is and can show you hundred links where Emenalo is cited as having signed a player.

In your haste to sound intelligent, you went and quoted Mike Forde now talking himself up as a consultant claiming that "we do analysis on the squad and signings bla bla bla.. That in no way shows he has any decision making power, he just performs analysis as directed. Mike Forde is the guy at the back of the computer telling you that X Player has great lung power and running ability etc, he isnt even close to a decision maker.

Show me one player Mike Forde is even rumoured to have signed or shut it. Since when did he become Head of Scouting, or even a mere scout? Why didn't Benitez go and meet Mike Forde to discuss transfer requirements?

He is Emenalos boss you claimed. What a joke. Clueless nogga.