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sleekdot:
because they are 2 different type of players

Iniesta plays as a CM in a 4-3-3. Muller plays as an attacker. if you check the heatmaps for both Iniesta and Muller. Hardly would you see Iniesta in the opposition box while Muller always ghosts in behind the main striker

Hence why he is unproductive.

Iniesta has no timing or anticipation of runs which is essential to produce goals for an AM.

Before they told us it is because Pep instructed Iniesta not to make runs into the box or to make the final pass.

Now we are finding out that it is a quality Muller possesses which Iniesta does not have which makes him more productive. . . . not because of any phucking instruction from Pep.

Iniesta begged Pep to teach him these things so he can score and assist more and be more decisive. . . . am I lying or do I need to produce the link where Iniesta went crying to Pep to make him a decisive nigga.

Some niggas have it. Some niggas want it, but can't have it.

Dadehmola:
The Figo wey you dey talk, biko show us his numbers in those years wey you claim say e "beast".

I know Dayo would have something to say about this topic of "classics"

14 goals. That's not counting assists which must be in the teens.

Wingers would kill for such stats in the 90s.

Nihilist:
I'm not exactly sure what to make of the nonsense you are writing here...

Lampard in 2012/2013 played in an even more withdrawn role in the pivot and scored 15 goals league goals. Xavi's best ever total is 10 league goals. Zidane has never scored more than 10 league goals in his entire career....and the only time he scored the 10 was in France.

The years he won World Player of the year award, Zidane scored 4 and 9 league goals respectively.

Ibime you need to open your eyes and your mind and stop wearing sunshades at midnight. Goals and Assists are not the be all and end all of footy.

Football is an art as well as a science...

English must be your problem because I don't see where you saw me say Iniesta is not a great player that you keep hounding me.

I said he is an unproductive nigga compared to niggas in his position.

Do you have problem with English. . . . or can you show me the product he produced?

You've been hounding me about Zizou all day but a young ninja like you will not remember that Zidane was stationed on the left wing for most of his Real career so how do you expect him to produce the numbers of an AM. He played mostly in the 1990s when teams played 4-4-2 and midfielders don't score that much. Zidane's goalscoring exploits in his era stacks up to any midfielder of his era. Were you dropped on the head as a child?

Leave such insight to the niggas who actually saw him play and understood what they were watching. In 2003, you were still a young boy supporting Leicester City with no idea what you were watching. You probably thought Zidane played behind the striker or something.

In 1998, Zidane won WPOTY solely for his World Cup performance. How many goals he scored for Juve is irrelevant. The World Cup made him. Ronaldo De Lima and Alex Del Piero were BY FAR the best club players that season. Ronaldo was Serie A Player of the year for reference.

In 2000, Luis Figo was BY FAR the best club player in the World. Zinedine Zidane snatched the WPOTY based solely on the Euros. It was like a monumental disgrace when Figo did not win that year. Figo made so much noise about it, they had to feel sorry for Figo and give it to him the following year. You cannot remember that. How much he produced for his club is irrelevant. On club performance alone, he could not smell top 10 in WPOTY that year. Totti was Serie A Player of the Year for reference.

So that just leaves 2003 when he actually produced some decent numbers at club level - but even still, was he the best player in Spain that year? It was either give the WPOTY award to Zidane or Thierry Henry. Zidane's residual status won the day.

So hardly of any of Zidane's WPOTY is due to club performance - so telling me about numbers he posted for the season means nothing. What he produced for French National Team is more relevant to this discussion than posting his club numbers which only saw him win League Player of the Year once in his life.

Nihilist:
Iniesta is definitely not 'unproductive'. There's a lot more to football than goals and assists.

Lampard easily outscored Zidane and Xavi yet never had the individual honours and recognition the latter 2 had

Muller has outscored Iniesta easily but yet has never been in the Ballon D'or top 5 in his life...whilst Iniesta has been voted 2nd, 3rd and 4th best player in the world

For all your bluster, your level of football thinking is occasionally very shallow...

Very very shallow....and it's a shame

That is very nice to know although you are arguing with yourself.

Is there another definition of production that involves passing backwards from the AM position rather than trying to harm the opponent goal?

I just dey ignore your Xavi yarns since because Xavi posted great stats from his deep position which we discussed in detail yet you keep rehashing old arguments.

Zidane played in an era of 4-4-2 and was mostly arbitrarily stationed on the left wing at Madrid (Raul and Ronaldo upfront), and in a 2 man midfield at Juve (Del Piero + Trezeguet/another upfront) so once again you are yarning nonsense to yourself.

All I want to know is . . . why is Muller disobeying Pep's instructions?

It is not me that called Iniesta unproductive. . . . Iniesta himself went to beg Pep to teach him how to score and assist because he was ashamed of his productivity.

Nihilist:
Iniesta is definitely not 'unproductive'. There's a lot more to football than goals and assists.

Lampard easily outscored Zidane and Xavi yet never had the individual honours and recognition the latter 2 had

Muller has outscored Iniesta easily but yet has never been in the Ballon D'or top 5 in his life...whilst Iniesta has been voted 2nd, 3rd and 4th best player in the world

For all your bluster, your level of football thinking is occasionally very shallow...

Very very shallow....and it's a shame

That is very nice to know although you are arguing with yourself.

Is there another definition of production that involves passing backwards from the AM position rather than trying to harm the opponent goal?

I just dey ignore your Xavi yarns since because Xavi posted great stats from his deep position which we discussed in detail yet you keep rehashing old arguments.

Zidane played in an era of 4-4-2 and was mostly arbitrarily stationed on the left wing at Madrid (Raul and Ronaldo upfront), and in a 2 man midfield at Juve (Del Piero + Trezeguet/another upfront) so once again you are yarning nonsense to yourself.

It is not me that called Iniesta unproductive. . . . Iniesta himself went to beg Pep to teach him how to score and assist because he was ashamed of his productivity.

All I want to know is . . . why is Muller disobeying Pep's instructions?

Nihilist:
Lampard and Iniesta are CMs...Muller is not

I don't know why you keep bringing Muller into this conversation

Now to this rubbish 'Productive' yarns.

The excuses are growing longer by the day. Una go soon turn Iniesta to left-back to excuse his lack of production.

Iniesta has been an AM for most of his life.

The unproductive yarns came about because we were discussing whether or not Lampard would push Iniesta to the wing from the AM position.

For most of Iniesta's career, he has had Xavi and Busquets sitiing behind him, yet cannot produce like his mates.

The niggas said that Iniesta is not allowed to make assists or enter box to score as per Pep instruction.

I simply want to know why Muller is disobeying Pep's instructions.

Nihilist:
Are you fvcking kidding me?

This is what Ibime always does...trying to switch the argument to Iniesta vs Muller.

That is NOT the argument.

The argument here is the idiocy of calling Iniesta 'unproductive'

That's an utterly stoopid statement to make

Muller vs Iniesta is an irrelevant discourse cos they don't do the same thing

Yes, he is unproductive compared to his mates like Muller and Lampard which was the original discussion anyway.

Do you want me to compare him to Shaqiri or Sunday Mba?

GTFOH nigga.

Some ninjas said Pep and tiki taka do not allow Iniesta to produce. I want to know what Muller is doing different in the same system under the same manager.

I will deal with these 2 clowns when I am free.

The same niggas that told us Iniesta can't score or assist under Pep system want to take umbrage when Muller scores and assist over 40 goals per season under the same Pep. Do they play in different positions or is it not the same manager and same tiki taka? What differentiates Muller from Iniesta?

Is it World Cup Golden boot, World Cup trophy, UCL or what that Iniesta has achieved that Muller hasn't? Why would Muller be threatening 50 goals and assists this season which Iniesta would take ten years to put together. Is there another definition of vision that involves passing backwards?

I will deal with Chelsea midfield issue later tonight.

airmark:
When you were recommending an untested neophyte like axel wixtel abi whats his name again to get signed by Chelsea i recommended nainggolan back then. Good to know you have reasoned along. Rodriguez did nt merit it, but most notable pundits and website rated him as one of the best midfielders in the league. Calling him trash really says it all that you did nt watch real madrid matches, not forgetting your opinion on modric last time. Go and look at his assists and come back and tell me you meant another rodriguez in another team has no vision. If i have a galactico who can score me long range goals and give my strikers accurate passes/crosses to net, why will i make one winstel that will be outmuscled and cant shoot to save his life ma favourite? He should join his colleagues in arsenal. Lampard at his peak was majorly known for his shooting prowess, but James is trash for his. You should not be saying anything about madrid players, except may be bale and ronaldo.

You wouldn't know football if a mosquito carrying football virus bit you on the nyash.

Can you swerve me when discussing football please cos I don't talk to football neophytes.

8 of James Rodrigues 13 goals were from outside the box. That's why I made comparison with Oscar - a visionless mothaphucka known for his shooting prowess.

Vast majority of Lampards goals are penalty box goals - good shooting is just an added arsenal, not the vast majority of his work.

And finally, what does Witsel have to do with James? Do they play the same position on the pitch? The Witsel you are mentioning is the 1st choice DM for the no1 ranked country in World Football. BTW, Witsel, Naingolann and any other good DMs are welcome at Chelsea - they are more pressing need than a stewpid muthaphucka like yourself always telling us you are happy with Ramires and Mikel and pushing for us to sign Rodriguez, Teixeira and co. like that is what Chelsea needs first and foremost.

I have short temper with fools so you best swerve my discussions if you are not mentioned.

airmark:
That's the la liga best midfielder 2014/2015.

Unmerited award driven by 2014 WC hype.

It's the kind of signing I expect Emenalo, Abramovic or Airmark to make. A totally unnecessary signing that adds nothing to Chelsea as a team except to add to our expensive collection of AMs.

When I hear Naingolann or Pjanic, those are signings a manager would make - one who knows football and has considered the strengths and weaknesses of the team.

Signing that wetback would be a setback.

Wetin consign us with this shallow mind bytch?

No amount of PR can launder the image of the shallow mind she displayed over the Hermes Bag affair.

Wike has turned Rivers State into a den of Wolves.

Greatihex:
i don't agree with that.

You don't have to, until you see him week in, week out at Chelsea.

When I said the same about a certain Brazilian no10 wonderkid after watching him in his first few matches in 2012, they thought I was crazy. MaZaCar was all the rage back then.

Rodriguez is trash. Never trust a no10 whose only real moments of note come from long range shots.

nateevs:
Word!

Overnight, the team is changed. Now one more DM, one CB, one LB (Nathan Ake?) and one RB (anyone but Ivanovic) and we have a solid team.

Correct.

We can even move Iva to CB and not need a new CB. I trust him to perform there.

Cahill, Iva, Zouma and Christensen is kosher for a title challenging team. Only Spurs can boast better in EPL.

FBS:
Ibime, you're joking right?

Have you seen what Chelsea paid for wastemen like Oscar, Baba Rahman and Cuadrado?

£30m is the going price these days. Might as well spend it on a certified nigga like Pjanic.

Blieve me, Emenalo can phuck up £30m fast, so once I hear Pjanic, at least I know it's not wasted.

raumdeuter:
Where and how do you see Pjanic and Fabregas coexisting in the same 11

One of em can go.

nateevs:
I hear we opened talks with Pjanic.

Now thats a good signing.

Heard his release clause is £31m so no need for too much haggling.

Greatihex:
I say, sign James Rodriguez now. He will do it for Chelsea. That guy is good. He is just out of form just like hazard. We need someone to bench Oscar. Oscar can become a super sub. Leave Pogba and sign a player that will hunger to play for Chelsea. Pogba can be another Matic. Sign defenders in all the position and bring back some that are on loan. We need depth in our defence.

James Rodriguez is just a slightly better version of Oscar. . . another visionless modarfucker.

Ibeme:
I hope the rumours of bringing in Walter Sabatini as TD are true also, so we can finally get rid of that ninny-stocking, Brazilian-loving, building teams with no leaders/communicators, incompetent poossy called Emenalo.

Frank Lampard on our ninny-stocking, Brazilian loving Aba-Made Technical Director who likes buying poosies.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3467468/Chelsea-fantastic-spirit-big-personalities-worry-warns-club-legend-Frank-Lampard.html

Chelsea had a fantastic spirit with big personalities but I worry where they are now, warns club legend Frank Lampard

'I do worry about where the real personalities of the team are,' Lampard added.

'To be a big team, you have to have big personalities. I don't want to sound like I am harking back to the days of me and John and Ashley Cole and Petr Cech and Didier Drogba but I do see a team now where John is the last mainstay of that identity.

'We had a fantastic spirit at Chelsea. We are kind of famous for it now. People criticised us for it to try to take away the gloss of what we were doing.

'Maybe Chelsea are looking for a more beautiful way now.

'The club has been trying to push it down that route with the players they have recruited over the last four or five years. The problem is if you fall in the middle, somewhere between tough and beautiful. It's nice football at times but it's not that nice and it's not really winning games. It's not beautiful, beautiful stuff.

CFCman:
Siasia's initial sack was a mistake in the first place. Although he failed to qualify the team to the 2012 AFCON, he would have qualified for the subsequent Nations Cup tournaments with the same set of players.

Eguavoen had already lost the key game away to Guinea before SiaSia took over.

Even in the final game, Sia1 had the 2-1 win against Guinea that he needed. Permutations meant that was enough to qualify based on the other teams results but incompetent NFF communications failed to inform SiaSia leading him to make attacking substitutions to chase the 3-1 result that he thought he needed. Guinea equalised on counterattack and we were knocked out.

SiaSia did not lose a single qualifying game and was unfairly sacked. Eguavoen had already put SE on the back foot earlier in qualifying.

Ivanooooooviiiic!!

Oscar the Brazilian ghost.

Commentator just said "we haven't seen much of him".

When will their brain click to realise they never see him. It's the Brazilian hype.

Has anyone seen Oscar in today's game?

That Ghanaian Taye Taiwo has been substituted for Kenedy. Good!

Keep him on that bench till season end and sell him for £5m in the summer!

Emenalo done go carry £23m sign one Ajegunle-educated left back. A ninja only 2 years out of Africa that doesn't even look like a professional footballer. A ninja who plays football like your typical Enyimba or Sharks FC defender.

Baba Rahman the clown.

Emenalos star signing.

bigkesh:
Adebayor was in Togo for 4 months processing groundnut,he signed for Palace and scored but Pato needs 5 weeks to be fit?

lol

2el:
There have been sharp increase in d prices of pure water across d states due to one reason or the other.

1. The sachet which the water in contained in is imported

2. It comes as a plain roll and very large. the printers buy this plain roll and print the pure water company name on it.

3. Its in different sizes and measured in KG. 1Kg was N530 before, now its N1000.

4. Those printers use different chemicals and inks to print. These chemicals all has a hike in price.

5. They also hire labourers incurred other running costs to it.

6. A pure water company buy this finished roll at N1000 instead of N530 and buy the packing bags at N5000 instead of N3200.

7. The company pays staff.

8. The machines run on diesel.

9. Maintenance of service vehicles, pays rent.

10. Maintenance of machines.

11. Buy fuel for service vehicles.

12. Buy chemical for treatment of product.

13. Most hawkers are usually charged dues like in Abia and Edo sachet hawker pays as much at N60 for tax.

14. Retailers also tend to pay for lighting and ice blocks.

**Majority of the company that produce Low density Polyethylene (LDPE) @ Eleme petrochemical industry in Rivers state and Lagos state have shut down due to high running cost and those that are importing this product are in shortage of Forex.

Current price of pure water in states all over Nigeria.

Abia................N150 a bag /N15 a sachet
Adammawa....N70 a bag/ N5 a scahet
Akwa ibom......N150 a bag / N20-25 a sachet
Anambra.........N150 a bag / N15 a sachet
Bauchi.............N70 a bag / N5 a sachet
Bayelsa........ ...N150 a bag / N20 a sachet
Benue..............N100a bag/ N10 a sachet
Borno...............N80 a bag /N10 a sachet
Cross river.......N150 a bag / N15 a sachet
Delta................N150 a bag/ N15 a sachet
Ebonyi.............N100 a bag / N10 a sachet
Edo...................N150 a bag/ N20 a sachet
Enugu.............N100 a bag/ N 10 a sachet
Gombe............N70 a bag/ N5 a sachet
Imo.................N150 a bag / N15 a sachet
Jigawa...........N70 a bag/ N5 a sachet
Kaduna..........N70 a bag / N5 a sachet
Kano..............N70 a bag / N5 a sachet
Katsina..........N70 a bag / N5 a sachet
Kebbi......... ...N70 a bag / N5 a sachet
Kwara ...........N100 a bag / N10 a sachet
Lagos............N150 a bag/ N20 a sachet
Niger.............N70 a bag/ N5 a sachet
Ogun............N100a bag / N10 sachet
Osun............N100 a bah/ N10 a sachet
Oyo..............N100 a bag/ N10 a sachet
Plateau........N100 a bag/ N10 a sachet
River.............N150 a bag/ N20 a sachet
Sokoto.........N70 a bag/ N5 a sachet
Taraba.........N70 a bag/ N5 a sachet
Yobe......... ..N100 a bag/ N10 a sachet
Zamfara......N70 a bag/ N5 a sachet
FCT..............N150 a bag/ N20 a sachet

Guy you be pure water Professor.

See correct breakdown of input costs and pricing.

A40:
Un-Chelsea and un-Emenalo related wetin be your position on African Pep Guardiola resignation from Super Eagles

Personally I think he would be lucky to coach the Falconets never mind a National team. Pretty clear now why he has not coached a senior team despite his qualifications

I no too follow that Oliseh story nor did I watch any of his SE matches. I just know he is a nigga who don't brook no unprofessionalism or mago mago. It's not everyone that can survive in Naija environment and deal with unpaid wages, bonuses, hotels etc and have some doofuses on technical committee plus NFF officials trying to force their players on you and chatting shyte. Some niggas cannot handle Nigerian factor. I know I'm one cos I don't suffer fools gladly.

lordfalcao:
if conte play 433 do we have the kind of midfielders wey go execute am perfectly

We don't have midfielders that can execute anything perfectly.

phemmyutd:
If A governor is commissioning this kind of project, Which one will the Ward Councillor Commission??

Wike is commissioning Road and over head bridges .

Ekiti people I feel for you.

lol. Governor dey commission tap. Rabble rouser Governor.

Conte is not playing 3-5-2 with Italy. No need speculating. A manager will pick any formation that best suits his players.