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Make una free dis man jor. Fernebahce had already agreed deal with kayserispor to sign him. They had a gentlemans agreement that he would not play against his future employers. Now Emenalo is being ensnared in the wider net closing around Fernebahce for fixing matches.

In January 2007, Man Utd sold Tim Howard to Everton. They made gentlemans agreement that Howard would not play against Manure few weeks later. Everton faked an injury for Howard to miss the game. The press made a small uproar about it but no police came knocking at his door.

What's the difference? The difference is that Fernebahce were match fixing elsewhere and Turkish police now want to turn Emenalo into the fly wey follow dead body enter grave.

nateevs: I agree with this. The further we are away from goal, the less chances we create.
We create far few chances ordinarily than to sit to deep.

Although we had a good start to the season, I never thought we were in the race.
It's a season to rebuild. What scares me now is the possibility of 10 drawss.
We can drop 20 points easily.

There's no reason to rebuild after winning UCL. We should be in the title race after summer investment. We were never favourites but with two decent and quick dms and even lukaku and studge, I would have made us favourites.

We can't complain although it would be better if I knew Walcott would be fit.

dayokanu: Imagine this.

Starting a game at home vs Fulham and Rafa starts with 2 Left backs Cole and Bertrand benches Mata. What do you expect in such situation

Ask Emenalo.

The Roman way of turning an irritation into a full blown crisis. Last time he turned a promising season into a crisis, Ray Wilkins was on the receiving end.

Regarding Rafa: Playing deep-lying football with shekpe keeper as striker is never a good idea. DD is not around anymore. The reason MaZaCar should be closer to goal instead of sitting in their own half is so that they can provide the goals shekpe keeper refuses to score. If all of them are sitting in their own half and shekpe keeper is the only man close to goal, Chelsea is finished.

Are we still in the title race at all?

Anybody dey watch the game? Sky Sports dey talk say na boring game

Girls simply chat amongst their friends, send text message back and forth that "there is this guy I really like at school/work. . . and yada yada yada". Then they ask their friends what they should do and then do exactly what their friends tell them which is "make eye contact, smile a lot and make conversation"

When they start doing all these, every red blooded man gets the signal and STRIKE!!!. . . but if the guy is not interested, you let them continue these flirtations until when they are desperate, they will send a friend to come and ask you "What do you think of Samantha, she likes you you know". . . at which point you start plotting how to get her off your case by simply avoiding her, being a jerk, or recommending her to one of your wing-men. Case closed.

coogar: this is not what we are calling you out on.......everyone of us here must have made a wrong assessment about certain players only for those players to prove us wrong - no issues with that. however, you loved drogba's 2006/7 season in 2008 and hated his first 2 seasons.....last week, you claimed you hated 2006/7 and loved drogba's first 2 seasons at chelsea.....what's with the speaking from both sides of the mouth? is this a hobby or a mere anomaly?

You talking nonsense mate. Was I on Nairaland in 2004-2006 for you to know my views on Drogba's efforts? This claim you are making now is not last week's claim. . . ask Debosky. . . when we had the original argument in January 2009, I said. . . DD worked hard in 2004-2006 and I liked his efforts, but since 2006 he's not been working hard and he's lost fitness. Working hard has nothing to do with "class" which I ascribed to Anelka. For me, Drogbas strengths lay in his hardwork.

It's quite simple like I said . .

I didnt like a player who I thought was only good for his hardwork cos he had a poor first touch. . . he proved me wrong, I respected him and became a great fan . .

Thats called judging a player on his merits. Look at El-Guapo's post above. He used to be big fan of Torres. Shiii. . .I was big fan of Torres till 2010.

The loverboy Nateevs also drew a line under Torres issue last week. . . we all patted him on the back for changing his mind and assessing the situation honestly. . . he shoulda left it there. . . but his emotions got the better of him and he's back this week to throw MaZaCar under the bus and posts GIFS of Sturridge whilst simultaneously contradicting every view he's ever held, even views he held last week. . . that's an emotional @zz ninja for you!!!

coogar: and only last week........ibime said this....

Ma quotes align nicely hombres!

As you can see.. . "Drogba without stamina is useless". . . "I used to like Drogba in his first two years cos he worked like a madman" and "I thought he had stopped working hard when the goals started flowing in 2006-2007".

Anyway, its a long time I been bothered about the aesthetics of DD's play. . . ma only criteria is does he produce on the pitch?. . . and anyone would tell you I've been DD's great fan since Guus Hiddink days. . . so no emotions involved. . . I didnt like a player who I thought was only good for his hardwork cos he had a poor first touch. . . he proved me wrong, I respected him and became a great fan . .

Compare to emotional loverboys who keep loving a complete dud for two years and changing what they said in matter of days. . .a loverboy who invented the term shekpekeeper to prove to us how "Torres keeps shape better than Drogba". . . . and a haterboy who keeps hating Lampard for 5 years even after he proves them wrong every year.

He went from "a better shape keeper than Drogba" to "you cant give him ball with back to goal" to "he can only receive through passes" to "there is only one kind of shape you can play with Torres". . .to "every shape Chelsea has ever played doesnt suit him". . . but the loverboy was the one who INFAMOUSLY coined the phrase "SHAPE KEEPER" to describe his abilities. . . .emotional @zz ninjas!!

See how emotional these bros are. . . brining yarns from 2008 when Torres was a top player. . . emotional guys!!!

Ibime call it as he see it. . . emotional ninja still defending loverboy Torres in 2012, even after admitting the dude doesnt have it no more.

nateevs: only Torres can solve Torres problem

1 week later. . .

nateevs: you should instead analyse if by playing MaZaCar behind Torres, the passes have really come in numbers.

5 months earlier. . .

nateevs: The midfield revolution I have been preaching for ages is finally about to happen next season.
Just sit back and watch Torres next season.

and

nateevs: Why is RDM not playing MaZaCar? RDM is a fool!

1 year earlier. . .

nateevs: I anticipate Torres would start firing when Sturridge is in the team

Yesterday. . .

nateevs: Look at this GIF of mumu Sturridge not being able to pass ball through to Torres

How emotional can a nigga get? Jumping from pillar to post just because his loverboy refused to fire?

Make una leave these emotional @zz ninjas abeg.

Last week "only Torres can solve Torres problem ". This week "MaZacar ain't producing enough quantity of passes "

Last year, "I anticipate Torres will play well when Sturridge joins him". This year blaming Sturridge.

How come Chelsea players only make wrong decisions with Torres but good decisions with each other?

Emotional @zz ninjas!!

dayokanu: People want to see evudence of midfielders making passes into open space just to prove that Torres wasnt making the run.

Juan Mata that made 35 assists in his last 3 seasons at Valencia now doesnt know how to assist players at Chelsea

Last season he had 13 assists in the league this season he already has 6 and not midway yet despite him missing a few games at the beginning.

The same Juan Mata who has excelled playing behind David Villa and Soldado but when it comes to Torres everyone stopped knowing how to play

Lampard that was a ball of fire stopped knowing how to play, Mata that was assisting and still assiting in bucketloads stopped that, Oscar Hazard that is assisting in bucketloads stopped doing that.

ALL THESE WHEN THEY STARTED PLAYING WITH TORRES

What are you talking about 13 this, 13 that.

Mata assisted 26 times last season in all comps, none for Torres.

debosky: No, but since we are all convinced Torres is the cause, let's examine games where Torres was absent no?

Hehehe. . . why didnt you ask to see the flurry of passes when Sturridge was on the pitch against West Brom.

Or how about Manure League Cup game?

We all saw it.

You are expecting to see flurry of passes away at Juve with midfielders deputising for Torres.

You know the right parameters for judgement but your dishonesty has veered you toward Juve.

At least thats more honest than those asking us for GIFS of Mata playing the ball to nobody just to prove Torres isnt making the run.

So Juve is the only team Chelsea has played this season?

Ema prince: I get better with every post/stack cheddas in heavy notes/
It's an open contest . . but y'all never been very close/
Been achieving like MAN U . the way I'm cleverly setting goals/
I take a nigga life . and let the devil enter to take his ghost/
From kenya to jericho . . I'm breaking grounds like tillas/
walls in ur streets falling . when I'm singing out my desire/
You rappers 'bout to retire/ back to ur house and be quite/
Cos when I blow the sound of vampires/..they found ur entire/house on fire/
I'm crowned the mesiah/ . they never see it coming,y'all lacking foresights/
Claiming wife snatchers . then I'm a give y'all hell for telling broad lies/
I love the wing like shawn wright/ fly like I'm always aboard flight/
You couldn't square up to me . if u consider it from four sides/
We all night/ partying with chicks that knows how to shake with they as5/
But we hustled first . so when we celebrate . we making it last/
I kill snakes in the grass/ like a mongoose/
My dope rhymes are always at the climax whenever I cum through/

This ninjas rhymes are always packaged well, nice punches, witty. . . with the clearest flow. Ninja never compromise on flow. Thats technical skill.

coogar: ..why are people so daft or deliberately want to be thick because they have lost an argument?

Says the man who's been losing the same argument for the last two years!!!


Why do you want gifs of Torres not making any runs? Why not watch the whole game if you want to see that? If Torres did not make any run, then it wouldnt make the highlights package. GIFS of Daniel Sturridge receiving the same passes should be enough for you unless you are being deliberately obtuse.


Meanwhile, the emotional pull of Torres is too strong for this fanboy. After claiming this last week:

nateevs: Torres' problem can only be solved by Torres himself.

his emotions have now drawn him back to blame everyone but Torres

nateevs: you should instead analyse if by playing MaZaCar behind Torres, the passes have really come in numbers.

Last week, the tiki taka wasnt working for Torres.

This week, everybody sit behind the halfway line still isnt working for Torres.

According to them, the only thing that works for Torres is sit behind the half-way line and play 50 yard balls that would put him clear. Thats a job for Sunday Oliseh, the King of 50-yard through passes ala Tunisia 94'!!

I think the "flurry of passes" Daniel Sturridge received in 15 minutes against West Brom have already proved who is not making the run.

Kai. Many footballers done suffer for Torres hand. Even MaZacar is being questioned now in their attempts to paint Torres as the 50 million pound Francis Jeffers. Their own argument even convince you that he is good for nothing except you glay on a plate for him. Silly sods.

Some of these analysts are paper footballers. Which player starts spraying passes in the direction of a marked man who refused to free himself from his markers. Can you imagine the nonsense some of these paper footballers are coming up with? They want you to post gifs of flurry of passes made to a marked man. hehehe

How many one-on-one's did Torres have with Kompany and Kolarov on Sunday? He didnt have to pace to get away. Old Torres would have escaped from them. 920 minutes with no league goal.

Abeg make una leave these silly guys. Torres issue is a non-issue. They watch football with emotions. That's why a complete dud like Torres will continue to get their support for two years straight because they are emotionally predisposed to him, whilst a complete performer like Lamps will continue to get their criticism year-in, year-out for 5 years straight because they are emotionally opposed to him.

PATTIBAT10: Guys , Please i really need your help. I dont know where else to turn to. Its tougher for me than you think because even my fiance in question is three months pregnant and her culture will not tolerate her having traditional after delivery. Abortion was never an option. Please, someone help me. I dont want her to suffer. Pls, help me guys.

Ninja Shut the fork up already you shameless devious worm!

You are nobody's responsibility here, and your incessant lies mean that anybody who wished to prioritise your matter will change his mind in an instant when he realise you are a shameless liar and beggar/robber/kidnapper

Dede1: It is not a great piece by any stretch of imagination. Adichie wrote like someone who intends to curry favor from certain audiences by subtly while intentionally disagreeing with Achebe on the pure facts without proffering any meaningful alternative.

I can not believe she tends to incorporate rumors and innuendoes generated during or after the war by the Biafran enemies into a palatable conjecture and hoping it slide unnoticed. If Adichie really wants to present her views, she should have done so on a platform devoid of Achebe’s eyewitness account about Nigeria\Biafra civil war through a book titled There Was A Country.

She could have based her writing endeavor on the issues she believed Achebe got wrong in his narrative accounts and faced her critics. Instead, she tend to fly under the radar of Achebe’s well intended account while disagreeing on the strength of rumors propagated by Nigerians who were dogmatically opposed to Biafra.

I'm disappointed in Adichie (my wife). She's neither here nor there, blowing grammar all over the place with shallow depth.

She should apply more wisdom and leave this poisoned chalice of a subject alone before she ruins her goodwill with all Nigerians on both sides of the debate. She just did the literary equivalent of shiiiiing in her own market.

Woke Soyinka is loved by all Nigerians because he listens to his conscience rather than prevaricating from A to B. He just speaks his mind and damn the consequences, like "fork all y'all" . . .and all Nigerians love him cos he never lets grammar get in the way of the stark nekked truth.

PATTIBAT10: What do you do when you have a Traditional wedding scheduled for January and you are broke?
What do you do when your rent expired two months back and your Landlord gives you one month quit notice?
To buttress all these, you have a loan of N250,000.00 to pay back by December 24th but you lost the money in an investment business and all your account balance are reading N1,045.00 or within that range. What's the next step?

Does your wife-to-be know what kinda financial pickle you are in? Cos you narrate your story like you are alone. Maybe your wife would even join your creditors in haranguing you. Best shine your eye make you no invite problem into your own bed.

mikuz: Ya lines laughable/ and ya styles fallible/
He gets arraigned in a kangaroo court . . to be executed by wild animals!!/

hahahaha. . . line of the month!!!

ritchboy: I couldn't help but notice Ipukulu Sardines lost to The Disvirginators as usual. . .

I couldn't help but notice Disvirginators always beat everyone in the regular season, yet always fall in the first hurdle of the play-offs. More of the same boss?

coogar: yeah - i have been the head right from when the relationship started. as the man, i take charge!



yeah - i accept!



yeah - that's the essence of my manhood!
everything in my power must be done to provide for my wife and kids!



she should sit me down and offer her best support - she should understand and trust me completely that i am doing my very best to change the situation....she should also remember when the going was good - i never held back! in a nutshell, understanding one's partner is the key!



i am not ashamed to say sorry to my spouse when i do wrong - it effectively puts out unnecessary arguments - my spouse is also peace-loving, the apologies are promptly accepted and it's all good in the hood!

Are you a married man? Ode!

azpeculiar: What a GW! Fellas we shall be having a new leader in the league! Short term actually...

IGG done end?


Rubbish week jor. So so 2 points everywhere

OMO IBO: #Torres watch. . .anybody??

Torreswatch is scrapped. We're starting new watch - #TorreswatchunderRafa

0 good games in 1.

I thought they said this fine doctor babe left Chelsea. What's she doing treating Ramires?

dayokanu: Wont you guys get laid tonight? This is freaking Saturday night

Ibime? Wetin do Madam? You cant tell me at 2am you are still arguing with Nateevs when Madam dey wait you for room

Dont watch that mate!!!

Nateevs: How can you claim to be intellectually honest when you cannot answer a simple question put to you? In case you don't understand this, I will spell it out.


1. The Mikel/Ramires combo was wrong.
2. Therefore Nateevs was wrong.
3. However RDM did exactly what Ibime claims Nateevs was wrong about.
4. At the same time claims that RDM did nothing wrong


How can anyone continue to hold these same views, all at the same time? How?

You can see the desperation of this eediot reaching stratospheric levels.

Ibime said RDM did nothing wrong to get the sack.

He is so desperate to find something linked to Ibime where RDM did wrong.



He wants Ibime to either claim:

(1.) RDM was wrong to drop Lampard (so he deserves the sack)

or

(2.) RDM was right to drop Lampard (therefore Nateevs wins the argument over Ramires).

It gives him the opportunity to wiggle out of an earlier argument, or to nail RDM.

He is looking for a win-win situation rather than being INTELLECTUALLY HONEST and conceding our first argument.


So lemme help him:


RDM didnt lose any of the 3 games where Lamps was on the bench so RDM's selection cannot be queried. Ramires/Mikel had the worst defensive record of any midfield pairing so Nateevs lost his argument.


There is no point arguing about Lampard cos Lampard was not around when RDM got the sack. If Lamps was on the bench throughout the barren run, then maybe Ibime would have a reason to blame RDM. You want me to hold RDM wrong for a decision which was never on the table and had no bearing on Chelseas poor run as Lampard was unavailable.

You are just looking for silly excuses where you can say "Ibime did not agree with RDM" such as playing Torres instead of Sturridge, sticking with Luiz, eating mashed potatoes before the game instead of broccoli, or wearing suit on the touchline instead of tracksuit. The same way SAF choose Giggs/Scholes/Ando/Cleverley/Carrick/Young/Valencia/Nani as he sees fit and Coogar and Starboard argue over which are the best combinations yet has no bearing on SAFs worth as a manager.

Intellectually dishonesty.

Nateevs: Just incase there was a lot of fat tissues in your retina, I will post for you again.

RDM record for first 7 games playing Lamps alongside Mikel with Ramires and/or Bertrand in the side.

LWWWLDD


RDM's record immediately after dropping Lamps for Ramires and sticking with MaZaCar.

WWWWWW up into the Shaktar game.

You can't have it both ways. You want RDM to be "proved wrong" for dropping Lampard, yet you want to claim "dropping Lampard was a success".

You are an ingrate of the highest level with your WWWWWW nonsense.

Lampard played Nordsjaelland and Norwich game, whilst Romeu played Wolves game.

The only 4 games Mikel/Rambo combination won is the Stoke, Arsenal and Tottenham game plus Shakhtar at home!!

You want to add wins that Lampard played in to their record.



I repeat:

You are the fool who stuck his chest out to say dropping Lamps for Ramires would improve our defence. You were WRONG!!!



Games Lamps played in:

4 clean sheets in 8 competitive games.

Games Mikel/Ramires played:

1 clean sheet in 10 games.


Competitive games Lamps played:

9 goals conceded in 8 games (4 of them against Atletico)


Competitive games Lamps did not play:

21 goals conceded in 10 games


Before Lamps was dropped:

Top of the table. Clear by 4 points

Since Ramires/Mikel:

3rd in the table. 4 points behind.



Instead of owning up to an argument YOU got wrong, you are DISHONESTLY trying to link that same issue as the cause of RDM's demise. How can our argument be the cause of RDM's demise when Lampard has been injured for the last two months?


First he said:

(1.) If Ramires/Mikel wasnt working, why didnt RDM balance the team with Malouda or someone else

Then when he got cornered to admit he lost an earlier argument:

(2.) I was right, Ramires/Mikel WAS working

Then:

(3.) If Ibime said Ramires/Mikel was the wrong combination, then RDM was wrong to play them. . . yet "they were working".


Flip-flopping all over the place just to be right.


I cant argue with this dude in good conscience anymore because he has proved that he is INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST!

nateevs: Deal with this:-


How can you claim to be intellectually honest when you cannot answer a simple question put to you? In case you don't understand this, I will spell it out.


1. The Mikel/Ramires combo was wrong.
2. Therefore Nateevs was wrong.
3. However RDM did exactly what Ibime claims Nateevs was wrong about.
4. At the same time claims that RDM did nothing wrong


How can anyone continue to hold these same views, all at the same time? How?

This is another case of intellectual dishonesty.

I will remind you. . .

"Get that 34 year old eediot out of the team. Put Ramires in the middle and we stop conceding. I cant believe RDM is playing Bertrand and Ramires on the wing just to accomodate the 34 year old."

You are the fool who stuck his chest out to say dropping Lamps for Ramires would improve our defence. You were WRONG!!!

CAPITAL WRONG!!!

The defensive problems stayed . . . and the goals against tally got worse . . .

You have not come back to concede that you were wrong for pointing fingers at Lampard. Instead you want to link RDM's "failure" to Ramires/Mikel so you can wiggle out of an argument you clearly lost.

There is no problem with RDM trying out his different combinations and RDM was not wrong to try it. You are the manager of a team with only 3 senior central midfielders. You have obvious problems in central midfield. It is your prerogative to try different combinations to stem the problems. It is Nateevs and Ibimes job to argue on Nairaland which of the combinations would work better. You try the new combination and you win for three games. By the time it goes belly up, you no longer have Lampard to call upon due to injury. In the meantime, Nateevs has lost his argument with Ibime cos Mikel/Rambo combination did not improve the defence.

Lampard was not available for Juve game, so his choice between Ibime and Nateevs argument have nothing to do with why he got sacked or "failed"!! Furthermore, Lampard would not have helped him in Turin even if fit! You can link that back to Emenalo's lack of options!

I am holding YOU to account for a theory you got wrong and you are DISHONESTLY trying to link that same issue as the cause of RDM's demise.


Intellectual dishonesty!

nateevs: (1.) If I was not right about my criticisms then, why is RDM not manager now only 6 months after winning the lucrative CL?

nateevs: (2.) Everyone though, including me agrees that he should have been given a chance.

Intellectual Dishonesty! Within the same post!


Translation:


(1.) RDM's sacking proved I was right with my criticism

(2.) I dont believe RDM should have been sacked.



Goodnight!

Them still dey yarn? We are watching!

RDM knows nothing about organising a defence yet RDM organised the best defence in the UCL even with 10 men and even with Bosingwa plaing centre-back and Ramires playing right-back. Dont forget Ramires playing left wing to stop Zuniga and Dani Alves. God is watching!

"It was working" last week yet now "it's not working". OK!

Yesterday "I may have got it wrong on MaZaCar and Mikel/Ramires, why didn't RDM try other combinations like Malouda or Ferreira." Today the story has changed to "I was absolutely right on MaZacar and Mikel/Ramires . Maybe they weren't properly organized to sit deep". Yet "RDM only had good defence when winning UCL because he sat deep".

Yet if Benitez returns Chelsea to sitting deep (which is the only thing Mikel can do) , they will claim they are vindicated.

You see why I don't want to open argument with Intellectually Dishonest folk. They have no point. They just want to be right. They can flipflop matters in the space of hours, days, weeks or months just to be on the right side. They can even change position twice or 5 times before deciding what they actually think.

My argument has been consistent since pre -season. Emenalo left an unbalanced squad with little strikeforce or midfield options. This is before any article came out on the matter. I maintained Lamps/Mikel is a poor combination but better than Ramires/Mikel. We do not have central midfield with the legs to provide platform for the type of play we are looking for and the playmakers we bought. I HAVE NEVER WAVERED IN MY ARGUMENT. I have stuck to the same argument religiously for 5 months.

Why is he quick to ask RDM to shoulder the blame without any admission that Emenalo has any culpability (regardless that most observers find it glaring). Someone who hates Ramires is ready to say Ramires would carry his central midfield just because he doesn't want any blame going Emenalos way. He wants to pin it all on RDM. Someone who admitted last week that "Torres just does not have it" will not lay any culpability at Emenalo's door for leaving a threadbare strikeforce just because he wants RDM to carry the can.

I can never subscribe to such nonsense talk because even if there are problems with the balance of the team, no sane person will not give the manager more than three months to sort it out. It's not like the team is not near the top of the table. Anybody talk different, then they have personal matter with RDM.

Now does anyone wonder why Nateevs is the only Chelsea fan quick to crucify RDM whilst we are all mourning his departure? Go back to last season and another argument Nateevs was thoroughly exposed at.

He has not come to apologise for his overblown gargantuan show of eediocy last season. He's come to make amends and win last season's argument which two trophies say he's already lost. The argument last season was "RDM is too boring and defensive". The argument this season is "RDM cannot defend".

Flipflopping all over the place just BE RIGHT. Intellectual Dishonesty.

nateevs: Hehehehe. Ibime is either a genius at twisting simple things or a total noob at grasping simple things. Maybe I should spell it out to you.


You have blamed Emanalo for issues in the squad.
You say RDM is not to blame.
You say therefore RDM has done nothing wrong.
You think there is no balance in the squad, yet you believe there is a solution to these same problems that RDM either did not see or did not bother to change.

So if Rafa finds balance in this squad, what will be RDM's excuse? The fact that Nateevs asked RDM to play Ramires and Mikel in midfield?
Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

Why should Ibime argue with you on what you are saying? How does Ibime know you are not chatting shyte like last time which you got wrong?

You said "it is working" last week. Now you say "it is not working" and RDM is to blame. Which one is it? What changed in a week?

What changed in a week is the reason I will not be drawn into your silly Benitez argument. What changed in a week is a result at Juventus.

Ibime will not be drawn into "how come Benitez was able to make it work" in the games left because Benitez will be not be tested against many teams capable of exposing the Chelsea midfield, and it will not be a terminal test like games against Juve and Shakhtar. Benitez could well win 80% of his PremierLeague games for the next two months till January. . . but RDM would have probably won those games anyway because Man City is the only big team left to play in the first half of this season and RDM is right there are the top of the table. The basis for comparison is not there. Ibime will not expose himself to such terms of argument against Intellectually Dishonest opponent because after 5 wins against Nordsjaelland, Fulham, Southampton and Kashima Antlers, you will come back to ask me the Benitez question.

My point is Benitez probably could not fashion a win away to Shakhtar and Juve with such midfield and strikeforce, but he could prolly be competitive in the Premierleague (which RDM was), most especially against the smaller teams. . . so I will not argue to different terms of reference.

nateevs: Chelsea v Stoke was the very first time RDM played with MaZaCar and Ramires/Mikel in midfield. So you are evidently lying. RDM played with this "balance" for over the first month of football. What happened? It phucking did not work.

Intellectual dishonesty at it's finest.

Where was Chelsea on the league table before Stoke Game. Ill spell it for you - 1ST PLACE - You bloody douchebag!!!

Of course "it phucking did not work".

nateevs: Why did RDM change the "balance"?

Because he has a mandate set down for him. If he continues to play likes of Bertrand for extended period whilst leaving £25m and £32m signings on the bench, I dont need to spell the repercussions for you. You were the first to scream about the mandate, now an intellectually dishonest slimeball is coming to argue the point he previously opposed.

When the MaZaCar first started losing games, what happened? RDM changed it by redrafting Lamps against Shakhtar. Lamps got injured.

In other words. . . he brought in MaZaCar, it got some results, then it started flopping against Manure. He changed it the next game against Shakhtar, but one injury to Lamps caused Ramires to be redrafted back into the middle. . . . either that or play an obviously out-of-form Romeu. . . another damning indictment of the central midfield Emenalo built.

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I have explained everything needed. This argument is over until you fess up to your previous foolishness.

coogar: drogba was very ineffective in his first 2 seasons

According to you. . .

I hated DD in the season he scored 30 goals and loved him in the first two seasons where he scored 16 goals each, cos I thought he had stopped working hard when the goals started flowing in 2006-2007.

The reason I started #Torreswatch was not to count Torres goals. I dont care if Torres scores only 10 goals a season as long as he provides a good base for his team to build, worries defenders and dominates the front line, or in other words "KEEP SHAPE". Dayokanu would tell you all about Drogba in 2004-2006. That was Drogba's most effective period for Chelsea. Allianz Arena knew all about him.

Mourinho doesnt care about goals. Thats why even if Higuain and Benzema scored him 30 goals each, he still asked for Adebayor who scores him only 5 goals because he hates "using cats to hunt".