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Best black student ko, BBS ni!

Have we run out of black science students in Imperial, Cambridge, Oxford, Warwick, UCL etc?

chic2pimp: ......

@BLUEDIVA

Told u have faith in the boyz.......No one gave em' a chance but as usual the boyz have proved their doubters wrong

FORZA ITALIA!!!

Kudos. . . una try yesterday!

Am hoping you guys beat Spain with their boring footie. . .

The man has obviously agreed to remit 75% of the money back to the NFA.

This is the clean way NFA chop money these days. They started this scam with Berti Vogts, then Lagerbach.

Arsenal are busy strengthening in the wrong positions.

Either that or Wenger is trying to prevent a Cesc/Nasri situation from repeating itself with RVP this season by buying RVP's replacement early.

lalaboi: If we didnt already have Ramires, I would be dying for Moutinho! great box to box midfielder! endless energy, enough tackles, good passer! Ninja's got the core

Wetin concern Moutinho with Ramires?

Two totally different players.

If you saw Moutinho of 3 years ago, you would be talking about Moutinho as a no10. . . a guy who fancied himself as the new Deco, had good passing, but lacked stamina, end-product and bite in his game.

That Moutinho should be talked about in comparison to Ramires speaks volumes for his improvement in the nitty-gritty aspect of the game, but they are essentially two very different players.

This law is a non-starter from day one since polygamy is legal in our society.

If you apply the law to a man with 4 wives, you impinge on his God-given right to sire children with each of his wives.

Does GEJ need to travel all the way to Brazil to learn that the insecurity in the country affects foreign investment?

mbulela: Can we let go of this 'unfit' story?
Rooney has always been a slightly above average footballer.
Just a one eyed king in a land of the blind.
How anyone can call Wayne a world class footballer is something a fraud that has gone unchecked for too long.

Guy, kill that matter.

Rooney is a top player.

I was of the same opinion until I went to see him live. He is difficult to stop on the pitch whenever he glides inside of a defender.

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]Ashley Cole didn’t hit his penalty with as much venom as he did in the Champions League final shootout. I wonder if he was thinking that Gianluigi Buffon had seen that penalty in Munich and was in two minds whether to change his approach?

Buffon was magnificent all match. He is a top, top keeper who stays on his feet until the last possible moment. If Ashley Young had scored his penalty, I think Cole would have taken his much more confidently.

Shape played into Pirlo's hands

England’s shape allowed Italy to have the ball too easily. They were set up to absorb pressure in a rigid 4-4-2. Surrendering so much possession sapped England’s energy and Italy had a player to do real damage to a tired side.

The three teams England had played previously didn’t have a deep-lying midfield player with as much guile as Andrea Pirlo. England couldn’t pressure him on the ball and played a high line.

That played into his hands with his raking passes. If you allow him time on the ball, the back four have to drop deep to cover the runs of Mario Balotelli.

FORZA ITALIA [/color]

England made Italy look like Spain yesterday. Germany would soon put em back in their place.

Wigan can keep Moses. We don't need any "as the spirit leads" players.

Going by the comments on this thread, I can see Nigeria has a long way to go.

An opposition leader is doing what opposition leaders do. Someone even said he has been reviewing all budgets in the Federation.

In that case, kudos to El-Rufai for holding Government to account and kudos to Peter Obi for responding to him in the spirit of democracy, unlike other governors who are not bothered and do not feel themselves accountable to social critics.

I have enjoyed the very interesting, exciting and adrenaline-pumping stories on this thread. . . . until you see pictures like the one posted up there. . .

If una no want Nani, make una send am come Stamford Bridge.

Nani is the best winger in Epl, comparable only to Valencia.

And who said Nani is copying Ronaldo? All Portuguese wingers are modelled on Luis Figo, thats why they play that way.

Please make una leave Agbani.

No one congratulated her for not chasing money when she turned down a marriage proposal from Kanu Nwankwo some 9 years ago.

Now that she knows where the shoe pinches, who can blame her for securing her future? Una dey there to suffer with her?

Leave matter abeg!

Reported £24m opening bid from Juventus for Torres. Stick with him or twist?

chamotex: United, as I have said before were on their way to being one of the world’s best in 2008 when Carlos Quieroz was the coach; they played a modern style and understood their roles, they were evolving into a big player on the European stage. However, in his absence they have reverted back to their rigid English style, which has no influence on the European game and importantly, does not reflect international football. This has important repercussions for Rooney.

Its nothing to do with understanding roles. Any team that loses Ronaldo, Tevez and Owen Hargreaves, not to mention declining output of Scholes and Giggs would surely struggle. United's players roles back then are exactly the same as now, except that Tevez was asked to help fill in for Ronaldo when Ronaldo attacks.

edoyad: And what sort of nonsense is this? What gives you the right to hurl such insults at another Forum member? Does the Forum belong to your Father? Even if it did just where do you draw such audacity from?
Can you Imagine?

My friend sharrap and face front!

I son clowns like a foster home/ when I talk my own/
Staple his eyes to my chair. . . make him watch the throne/
Beefing me is something I will not condone/ I'll just call Capone/
order the hit. . . and its done. . . before I drop the phone!/
Ma own boss. . .I got work for y'all/ while I lounge on a virgin shore/
. . .furthermore/ eating lobster thermidor/ . . with a working broad/
I never heard of y'all/ I ether vets/ through my ethernet/ and murder y'all/
End ya career. . . soon as I log on WINDOWS. . . it's ya curtain call/
No longer will I let you monkeys pass/ with ya funky raps/
Ya chick a mule. . . she horse-faced. . .with a donkeys a.s.s/
I turn rappers to martyrs/
and treat chicks like films. . . gimme action and romance. . .but I cant handle the drama/
I believe in the balance of karma/
thats why I channeled Osama. . . and received my instruction. . . .to handle Obama!/

I dont have time for a dude who write arguments upon arguments and quote ambiguous statements trying to prove that saying that a striker with good hold-up play that helps his midfield to transition from defence to attack, whose game is holding-up, lay the ball off and spin off into the box (DD and most big target men) is the same as a striker who plays tiki-taka and quick interchange with his midfield (Tevez, Aguero and such). I dont see why I should have to be drawn into a game of he-said she-said because its common sense what DD brings to the players around him with his strength and hold-up, and that is not tiki-taka footie or whether you wanna call it quick interchange, link-up and movement. . . I no get time for pointless pedantry sotay Im being asked how someone sets up goals if he is poor with linking up with quick movement. Abeg!


Moving on. . .

Chelsea Interest in Debuchy is solidifying. . . DM reporting that £6m bid is being prepared for him . . .

Yet another display of pedantic idiocy by Nateevs.

I said maybe 70% of balls to DD are played to DD with defenders on his back so his allowing the midfield to play has little to do with his passing.

The eediot is now asking me how "he sets the midfield up".

DD has copped 70 assists in 8 years. . . please go and find out how he did it, and stop asking me nonsense questions, you jobless eediot. . . The eediot is now asking me how he set people up "since I said my allowing the midfield to play was talking about holding up not that he plays with the midfield or does the link ups and movements with them".

You also agree that DD is not good at the link ups, so please tell me how DD set up his 70 assists.

Are you questioning me or yourself?

What a foooorkiiiiing eeedioooot!!!

The dude now wants me to tell him that "There is no midfielder who didnt profit from DD's hold-up play, whether to set them up. . ." obviously means that the set-up is usually a result of his hold up play rather than fast interlinking of passes. . . after all no midfielder who didnt profit from DD's hold-up play, whether to set them up.

I have already attributed the setting up to the hold up play in the structure of the sentence, but as usual this eeediot wants me to spend my time analysing everyword in a sentence due to his lack of comprehension as he does with Debo.

Maybe next month, Nateevs will tell us that I said DD only sets up through hold-up play next time he sees me typing something about DD's good crossing for team-mates. Thats the nature of Nateevs senseless discussions. I am arguing with a nincompoop.

Do they pay this guy to analyse sentences and argue nonsense about them?

Bottom line is DD holds the ball up, which allows midfielders to transition, but DD is not good at quick link ups, one-twos and neat intrepassing. Nateevs agrees with this, yet arguing like an eediot over semantics all day.

I would never cross words with this pedantic nincompoop again.

Its good you have answered the question. This proves that you also agree with me that:


DD holds the ball up and allows the midfield to play

and also that:


DD's link up and movement is poor. Any good build up ends at Drogbas feet


So after all this wasted time trawling through my old posts, just to agree with me?


It doesnt matter that his passing is poor. Infact, I posted the passing stats just some months ago.

He allows the midfield to play was a carefully constructed statement so there is no ambiguity that he plays with the midfield with the quick link-ups associated with the likes of Tevez and Messi.

He is able to hold the ball in the areas of the pitch where the ball needs to be, and not have the midfielders ping-ponging up and down.

You claim he doesnt allow the midfield to play cos his passing is poor, but 70% of the time the ball is played toward DD, its not when hes in space so his passing doesnt matter. Wheter in the air or even on the ground, if the ball is fired into DD, a defender is challenging for the ball with him, and he doesnt need a to pass to bring the midfield into play, simply knock it down or hold the defender back and flick it to his midfield. . . he will hold it up for the midfield to catch up with him. There is NO STATEMENT IVE MADE OUTSIDE THIS PARAMETER.

"Allowing the midfield to play" is constructed in a way that yes, he allows the midfield to play, not that he plays with the midfield or does the link-ups and movement with them.

According to talking tactics:

anytime you see a 4-5-1 struggle in the attack, it is usually because of a lack of support. This support can come in one of two ways. The first is from a striker’s holdup play. This is the more classic version of a lone striker, a Brian Ching type player who can play with his back to goal. A striker who is comfortable with his back to goal can hold the ball up and give his midfielders time to transition to the attack


Allowing his midfielders to transition into attack allows the midfield to play hence I made the clear distinction of saying that Torres has the midfield running up and down like a ping pong everytime he loses the ball


So once again, you have engaged in a long, fruitless, stoopid, desperate and pedantic argument even when you agree with my views. Its not a surprise as you usually argue such non-discussions with Debo, Dayo and myself.

^^^ You are the one changing the argument. You have gone from claiming that I said DD has good touch to another off-tangent.

The statement I made there was a comparison of Lampard and Gerrard and trying to show that the players at Liverpools disposal are as good as Chelseas just like I compare Bale, Lennon, VDV to Chelsea players when we argue about Modric.

That comparison has no tactical dimension. Its just comparing players based on their output.

DD of 15 goals and Torres of 30 goals is completely based on tactical dimension for common sense reason:

Torres at the moment is only a recipient of other peoples good work. Even if he scores 30, its by sacrificing other avenues we profit from, such as playing strictly to counterattack system and through-passes. DD if scoring 15 goals still allows his teammates to flourish whether by physically manhandling defences, knockdowns from crosses or by "holding the ball up and allowing the midfield to play"


But. . . .

You cannot dodge the reason you started this debate.

I believe that holding the ball up for the midfield to join up is something that big target men like DD, Gomez, Gomis, Demba Ba and Jonathan Walters do all the time.

Having good link up and movement upfront is something that the likes of Anelka, Tevez, Rooney, Aguero, Messi do well.

nateevs: You criticise Torres every minute for not being able to play with his back to goal.

I take this to mean you agree that DD can play with his back to goal.

You have asked enough questions. Here's one you MUST answer:


Do you agree that

(a.) DD holds the ball up?

(b.) allows the midfield to play

(c.) Holds up the ball and allows the midfield to play


If you cannot answer this question, get off ma nuts cos your answer to this question would prove that you have engaged in a long, desperate and unnecessary argument whilst actually agreeing with my views all this while.

Why not ask Debo about our argument in 2009 that " DD stopped running" when I said DD brought a lot in his first two seasons by running like a mad dog.

That one na 2012 argument? Abeg!


DD holds the ball up and allows the midfield to play

and

DD's link up and movement is poor. Any good build up ends at Drogbas feet

are not contradictory.

That statement applies to every single target man in World Football, whether Dzeko who holds up play at Wolfsburg and has poor linkup and movement in Citeh's slick passing system, or Befetimbi Gomis of Lyon, or Jonahan Walters of Stoke or Kevin Davies of Bolton or Demba Ba of Newcastle.


Take any big target man who holds up play for their midfield and put them in tiki-taka system, and the same two statements apply to all of them.

Stop scraping the barrel.



Summary:


Some years ago, Nateevs and Ibime were in agreement that Chelsea should play a slick passing system and DD does not fit into that.

Chelsea tried to play such system with few managers and failed.

Chelsea signed an out-of-form striker called Torres who could probably play better in possession system.

The dud stayed out of form for two years.

Nateevs held onto his sucicidal ideals, ready to sacrifice the success of his team for dud.

Ibime pointed out from the moment Torres was signed that DD brings more to the team and he hasnt got patience for dud to find his form, besides, with the players Chelsea have, DD is the best bet.

Nateevs is adamant that Torres non-existent shekpe-keeping is best for the team and all the players are crap thats why dud cant do it.

This doesnt matter to Ibime as any striker can score goals if his teammates are good.

Chelsea win the ultimate prize with DD as spearhead using the attributes that DD provides. . . in the failure of dud to produce anything.

Nateevs is angry that Chelsea have found success outside of the ideals that he holds.

Nateevs is pissed off that Ibime has no patience for ideals and prefers success through pragmatism.

Nateevs is pissed that his former partner-in-crime pointed out obvious truths about both striker's attributes, and did not stick to ideals even if they lead to failure.

Nateevs starts quoting posts from years ago to prove that Ibime is contradictory.

Much ado about nothing, afterall Ibime did not start making these claims after the UCL victory. Ibime has been weighing favourably on DD's side since Jan 2011, knowing that Torres is not the same player he was.

The case is closed, as success speaks louder than words.

End of story!

You see when someone is a f.o.o.l, they will always remain so.

Thank God BlueDiva told us just yesterday that she was a big fan of Torres before 2010 world cup and will be again if he finds himself.

Now the desperate Nateevs is pulling up my post from 2008 where I said that Torres is better than DD. What a joke! Can you compare Demba Ba and Torres in 2008? But for the last 2 years, Demba Ba is better than Torres!

Kai! What a sad case!


Nateevs has now told me he is not accusing me of ever claiming to have said DD has good first touch and passing. . . but he started his argument by accusing me of contradicting myself by equating DD's hold up play with passing and touch.

Since he cant find anything to say I claimed DD has good touch for quick passing, he is now pulling up quotes that I have always hated DD in 2010.

Well thank God its not a contradiction. We all hate players, managers etc and love them based on the context of what they can bring to the team.

It is not news that I wanted RA's money to build an exciting passing team and disliked JM and DD for bringing a mechanical style. That was 8 years ago!

Now the useless question is why did I hate DD in 2010, but love him now? What a waste of time.

BlueDiva hated Ramires in his first season, loved him in his second, was criticising him heavily some months ago and ended the season loving him.

I hate Ramires in the middle, but I warm to him when he plays on the right wing. If he plays on the right wing effectively into the future, I may even grow to love him.

I hate Kalou, but Im always the first to make a case for him to be in the team (as I did this season during our struggles) because he is the only winger with pace. If you start digging quotes about Kalou, Im sure you could start another long argument.

I appreciate the qualities that players bring to the team tactically. I started loving DD in 2009 under Hiddink, and would still crticise him into 2010, but still making a case for him tactically as he fits the style of play our players are most comfortable with right now. I have loved DD [b]TOTALLY [/b]since Jan 2011 because it was always a case of what DD brings to the team vs what Torres can bring. No contest.

Why should I not love DD in 2012 when he just won us the UCL? When our change in fortune was in reverting to a tactical system that only DD (and Lukaku) can play?

After failing to find any contradictory statement, Nateevs is now pulling up quotes to ask me why I hated DD then and love him now.

What a jobless eediot.

Some of us can think tactically about our players and managers and love them or hate them based on what they bring to the team within different systems. Unlike a stoopid and rigid idealist like Nateevs who will always hate DD and Lampard even if they win everything, and will always love AVB, Torres, Scolari, Deco and Benayoun even if they contribute little or nothing.

Now I know why Nateevs argues nonsense all the time about nothing in particular, even pulling up nonsense from 2008, when Torres was the hottest striker around. lol!

Finally,

nateevs: You criticise Torres every minute for not being able to play with his back to goal. This is despite the fact that Coogar and I have stated constantly that Chelsea do not play to his strengths. So when I see you sucking Drog's toy in a bid to make Torres look like crap, I have to dig up what you said about Drog in the past.

In the past two years, what system has not been played to help Torres? Whether long-ball, tiki-taka of Spain or counter-attack, Torres has been a dud for two years.

Why should I not Champion the tactical advantage DD can bring when Torres has not been able to contribute anything no matter what system Chelsea or Spain plays?

So all this argument because I state what DD can do and what Torres hasnt been able to do?. . . without EVER contradicting myself as I never attributed any skills to DD except for skills that flourish in RDM style of play? So all this argument just because Torres failure is paining you?

Guess what? Those particular attribute of DD just helped to win us the Champions League so shut it!!!

I did not start hailing DD and clowning Torres after our Champions League win. Wise people like myself, Dayo, Diva and FBS have been saying the same all season even when Chelsea was struggling. Guess what! It has been fully justified!!!

If you have nothing substantial to add, make I go attend my business jor.

I will only respond you when you pull up my contradictory statement as requested. Otherwise find something better to occupy yourself.

nateevs: I do not have to show you where you said DD has good touch because I never suggested you said so. Cleared.
Okay so I like how you come back with half a page/full page of explanations to answer a simple question.

Now you are trying to make a difference in the portions of garbage you spewed. I only just got started with you.
AVB, Scolari, Ancellotti v Long ball style of football do not matter here as long as you didn't state that when you made he comment.

Why should I have to state that when I made the comment? We just watched a match where Chelsea tried to play possession footie so there's no need to state disclaimer that "oh but his style works when we play mechanical footie"

That I have always had red eye for DD is not a secret. Every Tom, Dic.k and Harry knows this, so whatever you tell us in not news.

The difference between us is that although DD does not play slick style of footie, I am not an idealist. I hate him when we play possession footie, and I appreciate him when we play mechanical footie and he has warmed on me especially since FA Cup semi-final against L'Arse in 2009. Infact, my statements in that Tottenham match is the dying embers of my dislike for DD, and definitely since Torres joined, I have not had a bad word for DD because I choose to focus on the way DD can contribute to the team tactically, knowing that Torres cannot contribute in any way.

On one hand, we have Torres who has not contributed anything to possession footie cos he is too loose in possession, and cannot play mechanical style of play cos he is too weak.


On the other hand we have DD who is not good at possession footie. . . but priceless in holding the ball up and allowing the midfield to catch up with him when we play JM style of footie. . . another manager who I didnt like cos he took Chelsea down a mechanical path (are you gonna quote my views on JM as contradictions as well? . . . cos I can find you many quotes where I said we need to go back to JM style of footie during Scolari, AVB and even Ancelotti era)

All my comments on DD is all in context of the style of play we are seeing. I don't need to justify nonsense to a troglodyte like yourself.

You my friend are a capital f.o.o.l, jumping from one argument to another with every Tom, Dick and Harry over simple "comprehension" matters.

Your views or opinions are beneath my contempt and hold no more weight than Switch47 or some other troll, having proved yourself a f.o.o.l time without number.

You have just started with me?

I have just finished with you.

All you are arguing here is the difference between two styles of footie, and taking comments based on whatever style of footie we were playing at the time to argue senseless nonsense.

Dzeko is awful at linking up with Man City possession players, but was great at holding up play and doing the target man role at Wolfsburg with Grafite. . . all these nonsense page after page of argument is just to prove that this statement is contradictory.

I dont have time for your nonsense Nateevs. Make I go tend to my wife.

RuuDie: @ the article.

spot on. . .with respect to Stevie G!

Even if Stevie G spent 30 years abroad, he would never learn cos he simply doesnt have it.

nateevs: I cannot read all your megede fegede. A lot of mopping up has to be done after a lot of garbage you have spewed in the past. .
It's not desperation on my part. More like from you. Now you are trying to reword and re-write history.

May be I should quote it for you again. How can claim that . .




when in actual fact, according to you,




It's impossible mate. Your desperation to defend yourself is preventing you from accessing your reading ability. The key sentence here is Any good build up ends at Drogbas feet. You are digging yourself a bigger hole by insisting that you still hold the same view about Drogba from the past.

If any good build up ends up at Drogba's feet, how can he bring mid-fielders to play? You cannot hold both views. You have to step down on one and I am waiting patiently to find out which one it is.

Dude. . . I no get your time. . .

We all know what DD is good at, which is holding up balls and allowing the midfield to catch up when Chelsea play deep.

Link up play is the quick one-twos and such you play around the box.

There is a big difference.

"Every good build ends at DD's feet" corresponds to the link up play we were specialising in under Ancelotti, Scolari and AVB where we build up with quick passes and neat interchanges and play posession footie.

Its the same thing as saying DD's hold up play is brilliant under Chelsea's style, but his passing and link up would be woeful if he played for Barcelona (which is the style Chelsea were playing at the time of the comment under Ancelotti, and the same style under Scolari where Anelka was much better suited to the quick link ups.)

I kindly asked you to show me where I said DD has good touch on the ground and passing ability but you keep clutching at straws.

Does DD support his midfield better than Torres? 100% better. Does he hold up play to allow midfielders to catch up and bring them into play? Yes! Does he have good link up play in possession footie? No!

Its quite simple. Every lay man knows the answer to all those questions.

Now fork off. I have better things to do.

Of course Wellbeck meant that shyte. You can see him turn his head immediately to follow the trajectory of the ball into the net. If that was a "miscontrol", his eyes would have immediately looked down at the ground to try and find the ball he just miscontrolled.

nateevs: Right. So you suddenly need a page to explain yourself. This is no twisting of words dude. You are speaking English.


How can





when according to you


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I ain't making anything up. You said it. This is more than 'touch' Ibime. You attacked Drogba's all round play.
The long page highlights little. This is not a Drogba V Torres argument.
If there's one, it's you making it up.

I asked you to kindly point out where "holding the ball up and allowing the midfield to play" turned to DD has a good first touch. Everyone knows how DD holds the ball up. . . . and its not the same way Berbatov holds the ball up.

Now if you werent a troglodyte, you would know that " DD's link up play is poor" refers to his link up play within that style of system that Scolari, AVB and Ancelotti play. The statement was made during Ancelotti period where the emphasis is on completing 800 passes per game, quick movement and ground footie. Not even DD's biggest fan would say that is DD's strength. . . .cos everybody is a playmaker in that system. . . the likes of Anelka however are well suited to such game. Torres however does not suit that game, nor any other kind of game except "switchback" aka "please put me clear through for one-on-one with keeper".

Trying to present a "well known" opinion of mine as contradictory is desperation on your part, after collecting so many verbal trashings this season so I kindly ask you to pull up one post of mine where I said that DD has a good first touch or passing on the ground. . . or to redact your foolishness.

Hehehe. . .

This is what you call cheap shots, and twisting of information.

Are my views on DD not public knowledge? Can you point out where I've ever said that DD has good touch on the ground? For there to be a contradiction, there must be a contradcitory statement.

I said DD holds the ball up and allows the midfield to play whilst Torres is flimsy, does nothing to help SHEKPE KEEPING and has the midfield running back and forth like a ping pong cos he loses the ball all the time.

In Nateevs mind, this means I am saying DD has a good touch and Torres has a poor one.

The tactical difference is extremely clear between DD and Torres. Yes, even till date, DD's touch on the ground is poor (and was even worse during Scolari era when he was unfit and copped the most brunt of my criticisms)


Its obvious to me. . . . whether you put the ball on his chest, head or even on the ground, and you have a brilliant platform for the midfield. . . and this has nothing to do with touch (although his touch in the air - chest, knee or head is the best ever)

With Torres, it doesnt matter where you put the ball, it bounces back. Play it to him on the floor, someone would bully him before he gets the ball and he wont touch the ball.

So when you say Torres completes more passes than DD, that has little to do with SHAPE KEEPING. Infact Torres is the second worst in terms of pass completion behind DD (the stats are available for all to see).

What the stats dont tell you is how many times the ball is played into Torres feet and it doesnt even get there because a defender just barge through, swat him like a fly and take the ball without him touching it (of course, this would not show up on the pass completion stats). This is what I mean about the midfield running up and down like ping-pong because of Torres flimsiness.

This is what I mean about SHAPE KEEPING!!!

Now show me where I ever said that DD has GOOD first touch on the ground. You would never find one single quote in all my 5 years on Nairaland, and I still maintain it.

So where exactly is the contradiction?

So why pull up some quote I made about DD pass completion in comparison to Anelka (DD pass completion hasnt changed), however where Anelka compares favourably on passing, working hard for the team and dropping to help the midfield, Torres is a total liability in all aspects. . . and he has no goals to boot, whilst Anelka scored 18 goals in half a season (08/09) in the no9 position.

You are comparing Chalk and Cheese if you try to extrapolate a DD vs Anelka argument to a Torres vs DD one.

The two striker represent a clash of two ideologies, one which I do not favour. One (Torres) where the striker is merely a recipient of his midfielders efforts whilst the other (DD) is a part of the team in every sense.


Trust my love for DD is mostly in comparison to DUD!



On the other hand, Nateevs is known for constant idiocy, week-in, week-out. . . his idiocy being so brutally exposed this season. Thank God for RDM.

nku5: Beautiful write up. Where this Ofodile man dey since? Peter Obi just rode in ngige's hard luck and ikemba's personality. I'm glad people are waking up.

RoadStar: This baseless pride of not being able to accept critisism is what Obi has been exploiting for time now.
You could see in his response to el-rufais comments as an Igbo attack.
This mentallity especially of Igbos is beginning to damage us big time.

Abagworo: I believe Nigerians have deteriorated to an alarming psychological state which calls for emergency proliferation of multiple psychiatric clinics. Instead of you to oppose constructively, you've brought in unnecessary tribalism and name-calling. Every sane person knows Obi's performance has been dismal. As someone who often visited Awka and Nnewi, I once criticized him on Nairaland but had to stop because some people just like Obi made it seem like any other Nigerian criticizing Obi hates Anambra State. The impact of Ngige's short stay is still felt far more than Obi's 6 years.

[quote author=PROUD-IGBO]^^^Nna men!!! I tire for governance in that state, and i'm just watching the clock in anticipation of Obis' departure in about two years time.

I'm not impressed with current development strides in Anambra and i've also noticed that the quality of work done in road construction and public buildings is under par. This is one reason you hardly see pics/videos showcasing government developments in Awka, Onitsha and Nnewi: there's not much to show, and the little you see (à la 'anids') is 'local government/substandard' looking stuff.[/quote]The reason peeps fret when Obi is attacked is that an attack on Obi is an attack on Ojukwu, which is a no-no in Igbo society. Lets not forget that Peter Obi is Ojukwu's "son" and his "last wish" was for Anambrarians to vote for Obi.

merengue: How much exactly did the 500km of roads built in Anambra State by Governor Obi cost? Informed citizens have put the figure at between N48 billion and N60 billion, more than double of what Cross River State is spending for corresponding kilometers of roads.

The going price for construction of roads in Nigeria is N70m per kilometer. In some states such as Imo State, the State Government (same AGPA Government) has capped this figure at N60m per kilometre.

If 500km of road has been built in Anambra, this should cost N35bn (at N70m per road), not N48bn or N60bn.

If the roads are only being asphalted, this figure should be significantly less.