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How does RVP fit into Arsenes 4-3-3 system?. . . . is there any sustained future for him in such a system?

I saw him struggling against Atletico Madrid trying to play upfront on his own. . . . Debosky places him as an AM in 4-3-3, but how about Arshavin, Rosicky, even Nasri and Ramsey?. . . . RVP has no place at Arsenal under any 4-3-3 system.

muhsin:
The earlier statement you are trying to justify is yet fallacious and inaccurate.

What is fallacious. . . . that a large percentage of muslim women do not pursue education?

Why not counter that argument with stats from Saudi Arabia, Northern Nigeria or any muslim state you wish.

Same Kwara State is nowhere near the level of achievement of any other Yoruba state on any educational index.

mailmalc:
@ibime,. . so bruv, wats d deal?

Perhaps I should concede defeat

tkb417:
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are u saying playing even if you guys wanna play the traditional 4-4-2 (with wingers), Drogba and Anelka cant pair as forwards?
what formtion would you prefer?
4-5-1?

Even a traditional 4-4-2 is a waste of tactical leverage when you have a striker like Drogba who can do the job of 2 men upfront.

I have never been convinced at Drogba/Anelka playing together. . . . who is gonna come deep to link the play. . . On Sunday, it was Drogba coming deep. . . . he worried a lot, but his technique wasnt up to scratch. . . we also missed his knockdowns as he was deeper than Anelka.

The funny thing is that Anelka was looking like a World Class right winger toward the end of last season.

@ all,

Only 3 days left. . . get your team registered!

Perhaps we should provide a cash incentive. . .

Pastor Adeboye of RCCG just announced his N1m club. . . a collection of people he can go to for funds at the value of N1m whenever it is needed. . .

Hence I am announcing the N20 club. . . . a collection of people who are willing to donate N20 each to the winner of the fantasy league!   

tkb417:
and what do you think about that formation? i noticed the mid couldnt move freely with the ball which might pose some probs when they play the big teams. I trust Carlo tho, hes a tacticican and far better than Scolari and i expect him to deal with it.

Well Ancelotti better free up his agidi or he'll be getting sacked soon. We have always had bad experiences with diamond formation. We have no Seedorf who can hold the ball for long periods until the full-back catches up with him to provide the overlap, neither do we have a Kaka who can drift wide with the ball. Diamond is a dead formation. JM used in 06/07 and flopped. Hiddink used it against Spurs last season and that was the most dreadful performance under his reign. We have one of the only strikers in the world who is truly capable of playing upfront by himself. That should give us the tactical advantage of flooding and controlling the midfield. Playing Anelka uptop with Drogba is a waste of tactical leverage.

ishmael:
You are only displaying naivity and ignorance here. Auchi people are predominantly muslims, Most yoruba people from Lagos state down to kwara state are muslims, are you now saying they are at the bottom?

Juxtaposed against the Christian Yorubas, they are. Check the Jamb stats!

One should be ashamed to share club affiliation with the likes of BlueDiva and Chick2pimp.

Nani is wayyyyy better than Joe Cole. Infact Nani is better than all the players named here:

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294608.msg4330603#msg4330603 date=1249938584]Ashley Young - 158 minutes
Tevez - 162 minutes
Nasri - 300 minutes
Walcott - 229 minutes
Babel - 206 minutes
Kuyt - 172 minutes
Riera - 268 minutes
Ireland - 157 minutes
J.Cole - 162 minutes[/quote]Also, I am not surprised that Samir Nasri is lagging behind on productivity. I have long told Gaynners that the boy is an aesthetic pursuit and nothing else.

jookco:
Any tribe that has the highest population of Christians will always be on top, mark my word; Christianity brings light and understanding to the simple.

The reverse is the case. Any tribe that has the highest no of Muslims will be at the bottom, because the religion does hold back a sizeable population from being educated such as women, servants etc.

presido1:
Most of those that can give that 1milla are those stealing from me and you.

Yes o!

A large percentage of cash that goes into RCCG is stolen and Daddy GO knows it.

In the words of the Lord to Cain, this offering is not acceptable in the eyes of the Lord!

Fash the bash! This guy is more Nigerian than those who are born and bred.

Corruption is never far from him. I remember when Victory International pastor was convicted on corruption charges. Fash's name was never far from the scandal. Even during his NFA days, they were chopping money, not to talk of the match-fixing scandal that broke in England the late 1980's in which Grobelaar and Fash's name was involved.

nex:
I see a star falling in Cuba. I prophecy that Fidel Castro will not be with us anymore in a short while. Let's pray for the people of Cuba.


T. B Joshua is a fool. His fellow scam artist is setting up club 70 and club 1000 to take from the rich and buy another private jet, he's here remixing the news to his broke congregation.

naijaking1:
In a real and progressive society, people would question and critic Boro before idolizing him, but that's not Nigeria for you:
In Nigeria, the corrupt civil servants gets promoted, while the honest and hard working get frustrated out.
In Nigeria, the informed and honest politician can't even win his in own family, while fraudulent money bags rule the day.
In Nigeria, falsehood triumphs over honesty; patriotic hard working and honest Ijaw men are forgotten, while common criminals like Adaka Boro are eulogized as heros.
Only in Nigeria

Boro lived and died a poor man so I dont know what kind of twisted logic you are applying here.

Dede1:
(1.) There was no region or political party that supported the creation of additional regions among the existing regions within the sphere of interest of such political party or region.

(2.) If there should be different strata of governmental system in Nigeria, it did not have to start and end with Rivers State. If the Rivers people wanted Nigeria to be divided into states instead of regions, it should have be of national conference with the support of regional blessing.  

(1.) This brings an end to our debate. . . .complicity of the West and North does not absolve Ndigbo. . . . I have always maintained that politics in Nigeria is a Wa-Zo-Bia chess game and the rest of us are pawns in it. . . I am glad that you admitted that autonomy for Ijaws was not in Eastern Region interest (Read: Igbo). In other words, Ijaws were beholden to Igbo interest. Hence our definition of the former Eastern Region as a colonial contraption.

(2.) Referring to the bolded content, Ndigbo had never given blessing for Ijaw and minority autonomy. And yes, NCNC (Read: Ndigbo) had de jure power to devolve power down to the Ijaw by simply acquiescing to demands at the Constitutional Conference. NaijaKing asked the question, and the answer is yes.

Cristalz:
I didn't get why Nani was taken off. . .I agreed with TKB yesterday- Nani and Valencia on the pitch together woulda been something.

I think that'll be cos Nani dislocated his shoulder and will miss the first few weeks of the season.

After now, some woman will come and start lying to us how snipers saved her from kidnappers. See as Naija Police dey fall their hand. Thank God say these kidnappers na for Kogi State, otherwise everybody go dey ask say which kain emancipation una dey find inside kidnapping.

mukina2:
see this walking calculator

Actually wrong. . . supposed to be 2802. . . I missed a multiple of 7

mukina2:
As I was going to St. Ives I met a man
with seven wives,
Each wife had seven sacks, each sack
had seven cats,
Each cat had seven kits: kits, cats,
sacks and wives,
How many were going to St. Ives?

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[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=304656.msg4325219#msg4325219 date=1249870487]Check out the following link: http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/08/interview-with-kenneth-gladney-man-assaulted-by-union-thugs-at-town-hall/

Kenneth was attacked on the evening of August 6, 2009 at Rep. Russ Carnahan’s town hall meeting in South St. Louis County. I was at the town hall meeting as well and witnessed the events leading up to the attack of Kenneth. Kenneth was approached by an SEIU representative as Kenneth was handing out “Don’t Tread on Me” flags to other conservatives. The SEIU representative demanded to know why a black man was handing out these flags. The SEIU member used a racial slur against Kenneth, then punched him in the face. Kenneth fell to the ground. Another SEIU member yelled racial epithets at Kenneth as he kicked him in the head and back. Kenneth was also brutally attacked by one other male SEIU member and an unidentified woman. The three men were clearly SEIU members, as they were wearing T-shirts with the SEIU logo.

Kenneth was beaten badly. One assailant fled on foot; three others were arrested. Kenneth was admitted to St. John’s Mercy Medical Center emergency room, where he was treated for his numerous injuries. Kenneth was merely expressing his freedom of speech by handing out the flags. In fact, he merely asked people as they exited the town hall meeting whether they would like a flag. He in no way provoked any argument or altercation, as evidenced by the fact that three assailants were arrested.[/quote]Im happy they beat this dude black and blue. . . . this should be the new approach to dealing with deviants such as this confused nigga!

naijaking1:
Please answer the question I asked you earlier before carrying on about eastern Nigeria not wanting to carve out Ijaw or River state.
Who had the constitutional power to creat a seperate state out of any particular region?
Was it Ojukwu?
Was it Michael Okpara?
Was it Zik?
Was it Igbo people?
Was it the attorney general of eastern Nigeria(who was Ijaw).
Was it the federal legistilator in Lagos?
Who

You have to answer this question, because then and only then you'll understand that your misplaced argument that "Ojukwu refused to even consider Ijaw people's request for a state" has been grossly baseless and infact misleading.

I think your argument is getting desperate. . . .People do not make decisions, institutions do. . . and all Igbo institutions had refused devolution for Ijaws. . . I am not aware of the technical machinations of creating a seperate region apart from representations at the Constitutional Conferences, but I do know that NCNC vehemently opposed it. . . . if you doubt that NCNC opposed the creation of Rivers State, then feel free to data mine the WWW, or better yet ask Dede1, but I will not do your research for you.



I shall quote from the memorandum for the creation of Rivers State, signed in 1966 by eminent individuals in Rivers State:

"The pre-occupation of the Government of Eastern Nigeria appears to be to retain this Region in its present size and in fact ask for more powers at the expense of permanent minorities like the Niger Delta."

Also, read on the Eastern Regions annexation of the autonomy of the NDDB. . . 

"It is understood that the Consultative Body of Eastern Nigeria advised the Military Governor that the Niger Delta Development Board in section 159 of the Constitution of the Federation should be repatriated to respective Regions.  This shade of opinion is strongly opposed by all Rivers People. . . . It should be remembered that sub-section 2(d) of Section 159 of the Constitution of the Federation implies that inhabitants of the Niger Delta have a stake in the fate of the Niger Delta Development Board at any Constitution Conference.  In an exclusive interview of Rivers people with the Military Governor of Eastern Nigeria at Enugu on Saturday September 3rd, 1966, His Excellency indicated that he would brief the Eastern Nigeria team from recommendations of the East Consultative Body.  His Excellency's appointed team cannot rightly play the part of the inhabitants of the Niger Delta on the National Conference because our interests are certainly at cross purposes with those of other integral units of the Region."

http://www.adakaboro.org/resources/articles/37-articles/92-rvldrsofthougt

The quotes above show the strong strain of Igbo opposition to any type of autonomy in Niger-Delta, even refusing the NDDB its constitutional right to make a seperate representation for itself at constitutional conferences. . . . so dont be surprised when we talk about Aburi Accord as being a honest document put forward by hypocritical proponents.



In the meantime, you can read about the history of Ijaws struggle for administrative autonomy here:

http://www.ijawfoundation.org/resolution_001_08.htm


I hope all these would serve to inform you of the reasons why Ijaws were locked in a political battle with Igbos at the time of 1966, and what informed the so-called "betrayal" of some of them, although as Afam said, people do not dive into issues on sentimental blackmail, but have to make a good cost-benefit analysis before making decisions. Same applies to Ijaws who fought for Nigeria, including Adaka Boro.

Dede1:
I told you in my previous post that desperation is setting into your plank of argument. Please for sake of clarity, where did you plug the number of 10 million that you claimed represented numeric strength of Ijo people in the defunct eastern Nigerian? Even the combination of Ijo as citizens of both Nigeria and Ghana would not amount to10 million.

I hope you are still normal because most of the permanent secretaries that accompanied Gowon to Aburi were Ijo. It is cool to hear from you that during the summit in Aburi, Ijo people were neither Nigerians nor Biafrans.

I hoped I would not have to explain to an esteemed Septagenarian such as yourself in layman terms.

Eastern Region is a contraption, so do not ever pretend that anyone at Aburi was representing the Ijaws by proxy of representing the Eastern Region. . . . .that would be the height of arrogance and dishonesty.

Even so, I am not talking about Aburi Accord per se. . . .the premise of Aburi was not applied to Biafra. . . simple. . . .

In simple terms, Eastern Region wanted devolvement from Nigeria, and Ijaws wanted devolvement from Eastern Region which Ndigbo always fought against. . . .the contradiction is quite obvious for all to see. . .

Finally, yes, the Ijaw population is over 10 million. Ijaw population in the old Eastern Region would easily exceed 5 million. The same size as Scotland.

@ All Chelseans,

Is this the entertaining football that Ancelotti promised Abramovic?

It should come as no surprise when Ancelotti's wingless wonders flop this season. The worst game we played under Hiddink was with a diamond formation @ Spurs, and the worst we ever played under Mourinho was with a diamond formation in 06/07.

Jamie Redknapp (Lampards cousin) is presently criticising the diamond formation on Sky Sports. Perhaps he is privvy to Lampards inner thoughts.

We are one of the only teams in the world who have a striker capable of playing upfront on his own, yet Ancelotti wants to put pressure on our midfield by removing a midfielder and putting an extra striker.

The diamond formation puts too much pressure on the midfield because they not only have to press the oppositions central midfield, but they also have to pull wide to press the oppositions wingers as well. Meanwhile, Anelka has no tactical function, he is just upfront doing nothing whilst the midfielders are overburdened with work.

Every time the ball drops out wide in the oppositions third, there is no winger to pressure the ball and put it back in the box. Therefore no one to put the ball back in the mix for Lampards late runs. Dont be surprised to see Lampard score less than 15 goals this season. Also dont be surprised that we will be often caught on the counter-attack every time our play breaks down. Since the onus is on fullbacks to provide the width, they will often be caught out of position, as we often saw during Scolaris application of the diamond.

Ancelotti is already a failure as far as I am concerned. I am just waiting for his sack.

Dede1:
You are becoming uncontrollably ridiculous. Please get a handle of yourself. Ojukwu did not go to Aburi in order to negotiate terms for the Ndigbo. Rather Aburi summit was primarily between Nigeria and Biafra. During the period of summit in the Ghanaian town, Gowon and his ethnic group of Angas did not represent the cesspit called Nigeria. By the same token, Ojukwu’s stance in Aburi was not for Ndigbo but Biafra. The last time I checked though, Biafra represented the defunct eastern region of Nigeria.

I think you are being facetious here. . . . the Aburi Accord devolved power to Biafra alright, but gave no power to the nation-states that make up Biafra. . . . again, I will remind you that it gave power to the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani. . . . full stop. . . . within Biafra itself, Ndigbo vehemently resisted the devolvement of power away from Enugu. . . . the Wa-Zo-Bia chess games NEVER took into account power-devolvement to the "minorities" within their region. . . . .if we consider that the smallest tribe in the old Rivers State was Ogoni with more than half a million people, do you not think that half a million people deserve power devolvement?. . . . and the Ijaw nation is 10 million strong. . . .so what makes you think that Igbos with 20 million deserve devolvement, but 10 million Ijaws do not?

babasoty:
@IBIME

nahhhh its not isebie we are all cousins but no worry guess hard if you see my face you'd know me but lets stick to the alias here, how are you been a long time you guys left. stay blessed

Alright bro. . . . Joannas married to one of our Ogoni brothers and they have a daughter. . . everyone else is cool. . . . all finished education and working, including Izzy. . . . BTW, Im not surprised that Sotonye broke your arm. . . if not for Sotonye, I would have never learnt to fight 

babasoty:
@ibime
then you must be micheal, i know your sis joanna and whats the other ones name with your brother your cuz sotonye ogan is my buddy, he broke my arm at staff school abuloma.

hehehehe. . . . you done catch me. . . . is this Isebie?

babasoty:
nemi is my uncle, idua is in texas, furo is married same with abiye and tekena while boma is late who exactly are you cus i know everyone that stayed there.

Yeah, I know Idua is in Texas. . . . I spoke to him on hi5. . . . my sisters were very sorry to hear about Boma. . . . you must know my sister Joanna. . . .

babasoty:
which of the olunwa estate, is it vivian olunwa estate, or the nemi estate because i am from olunwa family for tubobereni using jazz nahhhh dont think so.

Nah, not Nemi. . . . Nemi was our next door neighbour with his big rotating satellite dishes. . . . . , Nemis nephew, Tonye was also my compadre in school . . . . It must be Vivian Olunwa. . . . I am sure you know Idua, Furo and Abiye

babasoty:
@ibime

i am from olunwa compund my bro, and you made a mistake about okujagu and nduisi those are not compounds in amadi-ama okujagu is close to slaughter area and they are the owners of azuabie town while nduisi is another name for ogan ama, amadi ama is composed of seven compounds, olunwa, amadi, koko/josiah, worianime and aluko,ogbanga,tubobereni and iringe compounds, and please amadi ama boys are not terrorists, its the same problem that was faced by boro that is still staring at them today and we have buried our hatchets with our abuloma brothers.

Thanks for reminding me. . . . I was confusing Ndibuisi and Tubobereni compounds. . . . I remember that TuboBereni used to use jazz during the football tournaments. . . or so they told us. . . .  . . . I left that area when I was ten years old so my memory is not sharp. . . . I also grew up in Olunwa Compound. . . . Olunwa Estate to be precise. . . .

Onlytruth:
Ibime you are beginning to lose my respect here, and believe me you don't want to do that! No matter how deltans see Biafra or Aburi Accord, they were DELIBERATE [/b]actions of the [b]EASTERN NIGERIAN [/b]government. I still believe that the Accord could have served Nigeria veritably if not for the selfish and myopic leadership of other majority tribes (and some minority ones like Clark, Enahoro and Saro wiwa). The war broke out because the Federal government decided by its own caprices not to implement the Accord. The war or Nigeria's years in the wilderness were all avoidable. Today everyone is clamoring for a [b]SOVEREIGN NATIONAL CONFERENCE (whatever that means!). Clarify yourself or lose my respect for good.

Calm down hombre. . . . no need to blow gasket. . .  . . . . the condescending Dede1 sought to prove Biafras "fair treatment" of minorities by highlighting that each town had an administrator from that town. . . .how charitable!. . . . although that proves nothing because even in the contraption called Nigeria, we still have administrators from our own towns.

Dede1's tries to use his example to prove "fair treatment". . . . but to me, the only "fair treatment" was that Ojukwu apply the same Aburi accord to Biafra as he wanted Nigeria to apply to himself. . . . If Igbos deserve Aburi Accord in Nigeria, then Ijaws deserve Aburi Accord in Biafra. . . . but Igbos would not even consider giving them their own state for minor decision making, talkless of devolving power completely ala Aburi Accord. . . . the double standard is there before God and Man to see.

Dede1:
@Ibime


Some peeps from the eastern minorities, especially one of my friends on the Nairaland, had diligently continued to propagate falsehood how the Biafran leadership did not include the minorities in the running of affairs in Biafra. It must be recalled that Biafra was divided into provinces and each of the provinces was govern or administered by an individual from that particular province.

For example, Mr. Emmanuel Aguma administered Port Harcourt Province. Chief Frank Opigo administered Yenagoa Province. MR. S. N. Dikibo administered Degema Province. MR. S. J. Edoho administered Eket Province. Mr. Frank Ugbut administered Ogoja Province. Chief J. Udo-Affiah administered Uyo Province. DR. S. J. Cookey administered Opobo Province. Prof. Eyo Bassey Ndem administered Calabar Province. Chief Ekukinam Bassey administered Annang Province. These administrators ran their schools, paid their teachers and civil servants, collected taxes, maintained roads, and generally administered the provinces.

The act of fairy tale should be reserved for the kids.

I dont get your point here. . . as of today, Amaechi administers PH, Sylva administers Yenogoa and Uduaghan administers Warri. . . . . what does this have to with Aburi Accord?  

@ Babasoty,

Which compound of Amadi-Ama are you from?

I remember the football tournaments between all the compounds in Amadi ie Coco, Ndubuisi, Okujagu, Amadi etc.

I also grew up in Amadi, and my inlaws are also from Amadi.

I remember say Amadi boys na real terrorists. . . . una still dey fight Abuloma boys?

naijaking1:
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http://allafrica.com/stories/200811150077.html


Another round of crisis is brewing between the Urhobo of Warri and the Ijaw of Ogbe-Ijoh kingdom following alleged marginalization of the Ijaw in the composition of the Agbarha Community Development Committee, CDC, even as the Ijaws have petitioned the state government of the impending clash.

Yes, yes, and more yes, Ijaws in the west have been fighting with everybody, Itsekiris, Urhobos, Igbos, Yorubas, Edos.
If it's a good and justifiable fight, I don't think you'll be lying about it.

I had hoped that someone of Igbo blood would not resort to disingenuous reporting in order to paint his Ijaw cousins in a bad light.

There has never been any war, and all attempts by you to pull out links talking about "another round of crisis"  will not work.

There is always "another round of crisis" in PH between Ikwerres and Ijaws in PH, but they have never fought. 

Either pull up some substantial links or admit that you made an honest mistake, and mistook Itsekiri for Urhobo.



[quote author=$osisi link=topic=302497.msg4317605#msg4317605 date=1249679173]I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread.
Kai dede and naijaking1, I salute una well well
Such wealth of knowledge [/quote]Yes o. . . . we always discuss heavyweight issues with kiddie gloves, like cousins should do. 

All this is propaganda. MEND is not stupid enough to blow up a secretariat where normal civil servants work. House of Reps/Senates maybe.