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The great overrated Stevie G is nothing but a flea in the presence of Michael Essien!

[size=50pt]ANFIELD HAS BEEN SILENCED!!![/size]

Its time for Chelsea fans to see a real coach at work, not a self-promoting charlatan.

This day has been coming for a long time!

Hiddink is working his magic again. We've never played this well at Anfield.

Ivanovic is here to stay like I've said all along. I always loved that kid!

Kalou is doing his thing. . . .

Malouda. . . . well, he needs to toughen up.

Essien is showing Gerrard say power pass power. . . . plus he releases his passes quicker than Mikel so we get forward quicker. . . . its not a long term solution though. . . . I dont see him keeping his discipline against the likes of Wigan et al.

JT needs to visit the chiropractor! Man City should make their bid abeg.

Now, if only Drogba had some intelligence, we would be 2 goals ahead  

texazzpete:
In your haste to attack me, did the words 'in Germany' escape you? Please consult your optician as soon as possible.

Sorry, I wasn't rushing to attack you, but this your misrepresentation of history na wa. Try as you might to disambiguate your comments after the fact:

In 1348, because of the hysteria surrounding the Black Plague, Jews were massacred in Chillon, Basle, Stuttgart, Ulm, Speyer, Dresden, Strasbourg, and Mainz. A large number of the surviving Jews fled to Poland, which was very welcoming to Jews at the time.

Are these not German towns? Even Strasbourg which is now in France was part of Germany back then.


Lets not derail this thread.

texazzpete:
Someone made the analogy to the pre WW2 situation in Germany. Jews had been disliked in Europe for ages but not until Hitler came forward with his incendiary speeches and his 'blame-it-all-on-the-jews' agenda did this dislike spill into bloodshed.

This guy just keeps exposing his faulty knowledge of history. . . . . with impunity!  

Are you telling me Hitler was the first leader to enact a progrom against the Jews? The word 'progrom' was invented with Jews in mind!

Lemme run over to Wikipedia for ya:

Massive violent attacks against Jews date back at least to the Crusades such as the Pogrom of 1096 in France and Germany (the first to be officially recorded), as well as the massacres of Jews at London and York in 1189–1190.

During the Golden age of Jewish culture in Spain, beginning in the ninth century, Islamic Spain was very welcoming towards Jews.[5] The eleventh century, however, saw several Muslim pogroms against Jews; those that occurred in Cordoba in 1011 and in Granada in 1066.[6] In the 1066 Granada massacre, a Muslim mob crucified the Jewish vizier Joseph ibn Naghrela and massacred about 4,000 Jews.[7] In 1033 about 6,000 Jews were killed in Fez, Morocco by Muslim mobs.[8][9] Mobs in Fez murdered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, in 1465.[10]

In 1348, because of the hysteria surrounding the Black Plague, Jews were massacred in Chillon, Basle, Stuttgart, Ulm, Speyer, Dresden, Strasbourg, and Mainz. A large number of the surviving Jews fled to Poland, which was very welcoming to Jews at the time.[11]

In 1543, Martin Luther wrote On the Jews and Their Lies, a treatise in which he advocated harsh persecution of the Jewish people, up to what are now called pogroms. He argued that their synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated.[12][13]

Jews and Poles were also massacred during the Khmelnytsky Uprising of Ukrainian Cossacks in 1648–1654,[14] as well as in the following century during the Koliyivshchyna.

I had to stop at 1645, without mentioning the Russian progroms et al lest I finish Seun's bandwidth.

Lets be honest with ourselves, violence against Jews is not new. Infact, the allies wouldn't have twitched a muscle to prevent it. It was only because of Germany's annexation of her neighbours that the allies stepped in, not because of the persecution of Jews. WW2 was never about the Jews.

I wouldnt even bother to listen to this if it sounds anything like "the real slim shady". . . . maybe Ill check it out when I get home. . . . Eminem hasn't inspired me since Marshall Mathers LP. . . .

BTW Sauron, that freestyle is so OOOOOOOOLD! We've been listening to that since 1998.

yarodin:
Maybe you need to go read your Nigerian history again because there was no peace.  There was unrest in the western part of Nigeria, the Tivs had their own uprising that was vicously crushed, and I believe the Niger Delta issue was brewing up also.  Also, killings of southerners in the north had already taken place before the Jan coup plotters struck.

How can you expect Texazzpete to know anything about the Jos progroms of the 1940's? He is known for misyarning with impunity, despite smelling of sciolism. 

hehehehehe. . . . I used to think Obi was useless but after reading this, I change my mind. . . . he must be doing a very good job. . . .

I dont know why Muki is getting so sensitive. I no even yab the gurl, she done go call boyfriend for me. Who talk say make I free her? DK, dont flatter your chick mehn

Also, I cannae believe that mods who are supposed to 'welcome' people are trying to run an innocent chick off the site with all sorts of propaganda, innuendo and personal attacks. 

Luc1a is a sweet gurl.  Yeah, Bluediva may have rubbed some people up the wrong way in the past, but WTF does that have to do with Mykali Luc1a?  I now ask mods to produce evidence of Mykali/Luc1a's duplicity or desist forthwith!

Luc1a, dont even sweat it. Chicks love to hate. 

I wonder what Cristalz would call this gaffe from Mukina since she keeps positing the argument that Chelsea chicks lack perspicuity of grammar:

mukina2: Ibime you shush dont make me step on you it wont be nice 

Not even a single full stop. Can you imagine?

@ E-bay,

Rio obviously!

debosky:
Better at what?

Ade's goal was beautiful, but he remains the KING of offsides at Arsenal FC.

Back to the game. Now I've reflected on it, the midfield looked odd yesterday.

Song was perpetual motion - joining up for attacks, hassling players, closing down space, while Denilson appeared to be invisible a lot, or maybe AW just told him to SIT in front of the back 4 and not wander around, or maybe he was man marking someone else?

What made this more apparent was the goal scored by Senna - if you watch the replay, Senna is in acres of space when he takes that shot, with Song belatedly trying to close him down. Where was Denilson? Close to the center of the 'D' just in front of Kolo and Billy. Watching the replay you see Almunia castigating someone for not pushing up or closing down the shot. . . I suspect it might be Denilson.

Even at that, if Denilson was supposed to sit in front of the back 4, he should have been the one to make the tackle on Rossi, not Song again, and who knows maybe Gallas wouldn't have been injured then? Theory I know, but something to think about I guess.

Ok maybe I am making too much of a big deal out of this, but Song was definitely far more influential overall compared to Denilson in this game at least. Denilson did step up his game in the second half (along with the rest of the side) and redeemed himself.

Denilson is no DM. Song is the man with the masterplan as I have said all along.

Brilliant goal from Ade. That should shut Debosky up for the next two full moons. I hope that goal will not provide just cause for Dr Kit to make a triumphant entry today 

Villareal still got the game though. I can see a 2-2 draw at the Emirates. 

Those who think Vidic is the best defender in the world have another think coming.

Look at how his defense was sliced open time and time again, not to mention the amount of times he drags the opposition striker to the ground after being outpaced. Another ref may have given 2 penalties against him yesterday. You can never see Rio put in such a haphazard performance, even when partnered with Evans. Infact, Rio makes Evans look classy.

As for the Mancs, there is still hope for y'all. Its not impossible to win @ Stadio Dragao, however, you guys look seriously shaky. The 'moral hazard' created by your 7-1 win against Roma is now well and truly buried. Teams are no longer scared to attack Man Utd anymore, and this is exposing many frailties in the middle of midfield where your pressing game leaves a lot to be desired. I hope that by next Wednesday we will be saying Adios to the chumps of Europe.

BTW, I like that guy Hulk. He is simply incredible.

Is this Villareal or Brazil

This tie is over. I'm switching over to Man Utd match. Arsenals epitaph has already been written and they have been buried in the quarterfinal once again.

Man Utd couldn't beat Villareal over 2 legs and Arsenal fans thought it was gonna be a cakewalk? I laugh in Kirike.

This dude is so emotional. . . . its not like any of us care anyway, rap music is long dead. . . the difference is obviously the difference between a 'rappers rapper' and a 'masses rapper'. . . . . here I was thinking I was debating fellow head, not knowing I was debating a 'professional pundit' like Bamsyle, who never studied the composition of a verse in his life. . . only interested in if it appeals to him sonically and emotionally. . .

Simple, if 2Pac is not the best lyricist (as you agree), nor the best with delivery (his delivery is tight, no doubt, but for me its the full package or bust) and his flow is nowhere near the greatest, then he is definitely OVERRATED if he is in the no1 spot. . .

Also, if you class Mystikals delivery as good, that is your remit, not mine. . . . but he certainly aint no good rapper, delivery notwithstanding. . . .

It is quite plain to see that Eldee has a good head on him. . . . I have placed Bamsyle in the category of 'non-entity' after reading his comment that he thinks Mystikal is a good rapper. . . . it is quite obvious from that statement that we do not listen to the same type of rap. . . . . no wonder he thinks 2Pac, Mystikal, DMX and Dr Dre are great lyricists. . . . I portend that he keeps listening to his jingles whilst the rest of us listen to rap. . . . from his analysis, I would like to hear what he sounds like when spitting since he keeps making noise about it. . . . the signs are not encouraging so far. . . .

eldee:
I've told you . . . I'm a fan of good hiphop, Kanye just happens to be doing good music.
I put his strong points forward, Ibime didn't attack any of 'em points so I have no problem with him
A-40 tried to question Kanye's creativity, that's why I went all out on him . . . you attacked consistency, I went on to prove how flawed your argument was . . . Ibime's thinks Kanye's wack because he speaks plain English . . . that's exactly what I like about him, so no qualms.

When Ibime comes out to say Kanye's not creative or Nas is a crap lyricist . . . then we'll have to open a new topic for him to prove that Ph.D he carries about has his name on it

Kanye is a wack lyricist no question about that. When real HipHop heads (as I take you all to be) convene to discuss 'who is overrated', it should be automatically assumed that we are talking from a lyrical standpoint and nothing else. That includes lyrics, flow and delivery - full stop! We are not here to discuss his status as an 'artiste' or how good his songs/beats and choruses sound. Strictly the nitty gritty. I do not argue about other intangibles because one man's food is another mans poison and we all have our own tastes. However, we should be able to form a defined consensus as to whether someone is a good lyricist or not. It heartens me that Eldee has the gumption not to use the phrase 'good lyricist' in association with Kanye West's name . . . . . unlike blockheads like Bamsyle who attach such titles to deficient rappers without even knowing what the bloodclaaaart he is talking about!

eldee:
Hehehe . . . this is the funniest argument an NLer ever dropped
Could you please stop embarrassing yourself here
What new rhyme scheme did Tupac bring?? Oh . . . he invented the couplet??
Please stick to your 'head like cocoyam' analysis and save your face.

Dont mind them. They would soon tell you Pac invented inrhymes and multisyllables, metaphors and simile's, when in fact he is highly deficient in all of these. If you put on a flat beat, and tell various emcees to rhyme on it, thats where you can dig through the hype and see who is really ill and who is wack.

2Pac brought nothing new to the game lyrically.

As someone said, 2Pac is the standard - but that is not on a lyrical level. He is the standard in terms of pop culture, iconic status, behaviour, emotional disposition and thug attitude, but there is no serious rapper out there trying to copy his lyrical style. Those who have copied it are all wack - Lil Zane, Master P etc.

Those who copy someone like Kool G Rap - name em - Nas, Big Pun, Saigon, etc - so who spawns lyrical greatness more? - 2Pac or Kool G Rap?

mukina2:
(1.) Mykali/Lica!a
if i were you i will simply keep quiet

You know why am saying so.

Dont push it.

(2.) Ibime
shuuush  if its shyte please do yours. No one's stopping you

(1.) What are you insinuating? Have you checked their IP address or something? Spill the beans if you must.

(2.) Sharrap dia!

debosky:
@ Ibime

Rijkaard might not be the best coach in the world, but he delivered - it can't simply be down to player quality/expenditure. If it was, Ranieri would've won in England before being booted out and Lazio would've won the CL at least twice in the 90's.

it was simply down to Henk Ten Cate. . . . as soon as he left, Rijkaard fell apart. . . . damn it, we're talking about a man who led Sparta Rotterdam to their first ever relegation. . . . he squandered the most magnificent squad of recent times with tactical indiscipline and laziness.

Bamsyle, we are still waiting to hear your own o. How can you pull up off-topic shit from years ago to justify your argument. Thats a shady tactic mehn and completely uncalled for. Thank God I retired. But you are still active sha, so we would like to hear your own. We will judge ya skills honestly.

[quote author=LuC!A link=topic=258584.msg3700166#msg3700166 date=1239107632]and cristalz, don't bug me about my spellings again if you spell ''anlyses'' that way. does your spell check button still work[/quote]Calm down girl! Analyses is plural for analysis, and I used it before Cristalz so if ya diss Criz, ya dissing me. 

And yes, I do sense some hostility toward LUC1A & Blue-Diva. Whats up with that? Can Chelsea chicks get some love? 

[quote author=LuC!A link=topic=252254.msg3700055#msg3700055 date=1239106582]Rijkaard? i think he's too mechanical.[/quote]Rijkaard is not mechanical enough for me. His teams are too loose and porous. Infact, he is the worst manager I can envisage for Chelsea.

If not Guus, then Advocaat, Zola etc will do me fine.

@ Deji

2Pac is no MLK. . . . more like Malcolm X. . . . and Malcolm X is overrated 

@ Bamsyle, Thunder fire you!

Lets hear your own.

Ma friends who just visited from PH told me that Igbos have taken over the kidnapping game, even right there in PH.

lol

Who was it that said that if a business man assumes that most people are idiots, he will surely become a millionaire. 

This is not argument by consensus my friends.

I cannot believe idiots are towing the asinine line that Pac made sense. Do I look like an oppressed Akata that Pac's words should have any meaning to me? Its utter jibberish and conspiracy theories to me, hence I must judge him on his rap skills. . . . which are primary. . . . as admitted by his no 1 fan, Bamsyle.

texazzpete:
But that's precisely what happened. Do you think the people who killed Igbos in the North were Professors and scholars. Nay, more like paranoid dummies

I think you need to read up on the progroms. You will find that they were directed by Hausa elite. Major Katsina being just one of them; holding back the army from intervening, despite recieving forewarning from his superior commander and being told to deploy the army to safeguard the Igbos. Alex Madiebo's book reveals all.

Me thinks the mods are becoming too sensitive. Of course, the analysis is shite but wetin concern fish with raincoat?

Ma main problem is the number of sticky threads on this section. You have to scroll halfway down the page to find your club thread. Of course I do not mind the Arsenal vs Villareal type threads, but must we make Naija League and such threads sticky? I know the big boss is squeezing your proverbial balls, but can we have some democracy please?

Post your questions to Otto Rehagel.

On the other hand, you may be right cos Rijkaard managed to reach the upper echelons of the game, although he is a very poor coach.

I think its 50-50.

Bamsyle:
Yes . . . and that's what I've been on since . . . some of 2pac's verses may come off as baby raps to you . . . and that's because he was way too opinionated . . . he rapped from a highly opinionated mind . . . said thangs as they were without mincing words . . . or trying to impress his listeners with metas and wordplay . . . he said simple thangs that still made sense all the same.

You are obviously deluded. . . . . how can you take your moral compass from a paranoid, loud-mouthed Arrow like 2Pac. . . . is there anything 2Pac said that made sense?. . . . . from rapping about Brenda's baby to making videos where he is ejaculating champagne on topless strippers. . . . to initiating a thug life movement which corrupted a lot of yound heads. . . . what a contradictory buffoon. . . . he had no message. . . . what message?. . . . Kanye has a better message than Pac because Kanye showed that it is alright to be 'straight and narrow' and still be HipHop. . . . if we wanna talk about anyone with a neo-black message, we would be talking about Common, Roots, Mos Def, Talib etc, not confused buffoons like 2Pac who spit primary school raps and justify it by saying the 'meaning is deep'. . . . you are a shame to the educated classes, justifying the tomfoolery 2Pac spit on the excuse that 'it made sense'. . . . everything 2Pac spit was axiomatic wisdom, not something that made me sit back and say "whoa, thats deep!". . .

Bamsyle, shut the hell up. You are suffering from analysis paralysis. 2Pac is the most overrated motha that ever lived. You can take that to the bank. If not for borrowing beats from Dre & Daz, hooks from Dave Hollister, Zapp & Roger and so on, 2Pac is straight wack. His acting is better than his rapping. . . . .and he aint even a top 100 actor.

All my niggas can you heeeeeeeeeeeaaar meeeeeeee/
I think niggas is tryna kiiiiiiiill meeeeeeeeeeee/
Picture me pissed, hollow points when they driiiiiiill me/


What kind of primary school raps are these?


Bombaclaaart!

Ancelotti would be a disaster