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asha 80:
Please let us close this thread.

Why should we close the thread? It is through statistics that we learn what we need to imporve in society.

debosky:
Like I said, data showing the PROPORTION of applicants, vis-a-vis the states of origins would give a clearer picture.

Don't worry, I am an expert with Excel. I can get you any data you want:



State No of exam takers

IMO 49,233
DEL 37,184
ANA 32,821
EDO 32,467
OGU 31,569
OSU 27,108
OND 25,309
OYO 24,482
AKW 23,242
ABI 23,008
RIV 20,645
ENU 20,118
KOG 19,031
KWA 18,951
EKI 18,779
LAG 16,671
BEN 12,409
BAY 9,730
CRO 9,365
KAD 7,309
EBO 6,875
KAN 5,091
ADA 4,035
NIG 3,937
NAS 3,821
KAT 2,981
BAU 2,944
PLA 2,792
KEB 2,124
GOM 2,064
BOR 1,950
TAR 1,857
JIG 1,369
SOK 1,274
ZAM 1,051
YOB 868
FCT 610
WES 101
OTH 26
AFR 21


I am assuming that Maths is still compulsory, hence these figures should represent the total no who took the exam.

Your assertion that S/E is producing more applicants, hence more no of successful applicants is correct. Thats why I prefer to look at percentages.

However, this brings up another debate - the census debate. It is almost obvious that Igbo's are the most populated tribe in Naija, yet the census keeps downplaying their numbers and giving them less of the national cake.

You will be surprised at my findings. I managed to export the data to Excel to find out the percentage of people who got a A in Maths. Surprise, surprise, Kano did very well


Percentage of applicants who scored 70+ (Maths)

State % who scored A

RIV 8.28287721
KAN 5.028481634
LAG 3.209165617
AKW 2.646071767
ABI 2.368741307
OGU 2.359910038
IMO 2.209899864
BAY 1.963001028
OYO 1.748223184
ANA 1.727552482
JIG 1.607012418
KWA 1.572476386
DEL 1.559810671
EBO 1.498181818
OSU 1.457134425
EKI 1.411150754
OND 1.331542139
ENU 1.08360672
CRO 1.025093433
EDO 1.016416669
SOK 0.941915228
YOB 0.921658986
BEN 0.717221372
KOG 0.662077663
ZAM 0.570884872
KAD 0.519906964
PLA 0.429799427
KAT 0.40254948
ADA 0.346964064
NIG 0.33020066
KEB 0.329566855
TAR 0.215401185
NAS 0.209369275
FCT 0.163934426
BOR 0.153846154
GOM 0.145348837
BAU 0.135869565
WES 0
AFR 0
OTH 0




Percentage of applicants who failed (Maths)


This also surprised me - Bayelsa was near the top of the list! This must be because of poor infrastructure. Rivers State has always been ahead of Bayelsa.  

State % Fail

ZAM 23.40628
BAY 23.08325
NIG 22.58065
NAS 22.5072
TAR 22.40172
KEB 21.84557
FCT 21.47541
ADA 21.18959
KAN 20.31035
JIG 20.30679
KAD 20.19428
SOK 20.17268
PLA 20.16476
BOR 20.10256
YOB 20.04608
BAU 19.97283
KAT 19.05401
GOM 18.8469
EKI 17.7592
OND 17.03742
BEN 15.82722
KOG 15.71121
CRO 15.40844
OSU 14.88122
KWA 14.86465
EBO 14.03636
EDO 13.71546
OYO 13.71212
AKW 13.53584
WES 11.88119
DEL 11.85994
ENU 11.76061
ABI 11.54816
OGU 11.4416
ANA 11.28546
IMO 10.91138
LAG 10.04739
RIV 6.587551
AFR 4.761905
OTH 0

Afaukwu:
Ibime, thanks too. I am running out of time. Could you please present a comparative post of SE and SW states for the five subjects of Eng, maths, phy, chem and bio. A beg no vex. Thanks.

I no get time for that - but we all know Igbo states (especially Imo) are doing well in the core subjects.

Meanwhile, I have found one subject where the South-West is leading - Yoruba! 

I have also found another subject where the North is leading - Arabic! 

Afaukwu, thanks for the link (http://www.jambng.com/per_ume.php)


We can now compare Rivers State to Yoruba states in the following subjects:



[size=14pt]Maths[/size] (no of students who scored above 70% in 2008)

Rivers State - 1710
Oyo State    -   428
Ondo State  -   337
Ogun State  -   745
Osun State  -   395
Lagos State -   535
Ekiti State    -   265


[size=14pt]English[/size] (no of students who scored above 70% in 2008)


Rivers State - 6000
Oyo State    -   814
Ondo State  -   899
Ogun State  - 1407
Osun State  -   860
Lagos State -   971
Ekiti State    -   603



I shall not even bother with Physics, Chemistry and Biology. We can already see a stark pattern emerging.  

The English results also confirm my assertion that Rivers State indigenes speak the best English in Naija.

Since these results are based on state of origin, how can Rivers State (with a small number of indigenous inhabitants) trounce Ogun State etc handsdown.

I have said it before - The South-West need to get their act together!    


After now, they will say all we know is fishing and militancy.  Despite all the civil unrest (and alternative source of livelihood) in Rivers State, we are still killing them.  

Chamobobo, no hesitate o!

Na this kain chick wey dey make papa say "Thats my son!"

[quote author=ijaw_girl link=topic=237534.msg3498711#msg3498711 date=1235263150]@ osisi and debosky,

thats so ignorant[/quote]Don't mind the idiots. Whilst our forefathers had met the whiteman and had been going to school since the 1800's, they were still covering themselves with loincloth. I hope they remember Ernest Ikoli and other Ijaw stalwarts who were educated back when they were still trading in cowries. Whilst Jaja of Opobo had lawyers representing him in England in the 1700's, Okonkwo was still busy sacrificing Ikemefuna to the gods. If they don't take time we will unleash the Arochukwu upon them like we used to do back in those days. Only the people of Badagry and Old Calabar are qualified to talk about education where Ijaw people are concerned.

How did Abacha start well? By refusing to recognise June 12th?

I hope you all remember that Buhari and Idiagbon were the only leaders we had who were serious about corruption.

The legacy they left lasted well into the 90's with "War on bribery and corruption" and "sanitation day".

@ Debosky,

Population density means nothing except that the geographical area is small.

I never even knew that Uni admission was based on state of origin not state of residence. Even still, why did Bayelsa beat all Yoruba states in the last admission statistics I studied? Do you know how few people trace their origin to Bayelsa?

There is no style of Government that can suit Naija.

Igbo's prefer village democracy, Yorubas prefer hereditary monarchy, Hausa's prefer Caliphate by consultation or election; whilst in Ijaw land, whoever raises the biggest war canoe house can vie for the Kingship. Lets call the whole thing off!

Till date, Buhari and Idiagbon are the best things that ever happened to Naija. Thats what we need, a strong good-hearted military dictator to clear the decks. We deserve it, cos we have proved ourselves to be undemocratic.

Gamine:
So they are going to school. . .

doesnt guarantee that they actually learn anything.

Nigerian Graduates from the east that dont know where Doha is or speak english kpa kpa

My friend shaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaap! See anofia wey just learn about Doha dey use am make mouth. Wetin you sabi?


[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=237534.msg3498262#msg3498262 date=1235251438]Whereas, every candidate in Lagos wants to go to UNILAG thus leaving an army of UME candidates out cos the University cannot take all.
I know a lot of peops way back in Naija who would not school anywhere else but UNILAG and they miss out year after year thus pushing up the numbers of the Uni-rejects. [/quote]My friend shaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap². Are Lagosians not men? Scared to travel ke! Southerners, especially Igbos are not respected until they travel. Lily livered Yorubas are sitting in mummy's house waiting for acceptance from UNILAG. I have met some UNILAG and LASU graduates and it is hard to tell that they went to school judging by their grammar. Is that what Lagosians are killing themselves for? To go to university just to continue speaking Yoruba, so they never learn English properly? How can Bayelsa have more graduates than Lagos? Shame!

Getting GH to stay is nothing for RA. Never mind what the Russians are saying. You cannot tell me GH doesn't want the job. You can tell from his utterings that he has been waiting for this opportunity for a LONG time.

First lets see if GH proves himself before worrying about the futture. I have been praying for GH to manage Chelsea for years!

debosky:
The key for me is this:

"Finally, if the South-East has more people in the universities when there is no reason other than that they have more candidates applying for same, it would be right and appropriately so to postulate that it in terms of population, there are more people in the South-East than either in the South-West or the South-South. "

The population question is yet to be answered. The last census was discredited by many, and it seems there have been some issues regarding properly quantifying the population.

Forget all these excuses. We all know the South-West is more populated than the South-East, which is empty. No be today when Igbo people start to leave South-East Nigeria in their droves. Can you argue that Lagos State is less populated than Bayelsa State? If not, why does Bayelsa State have more University entrants than Lagos State? The simple fact is that the South-West and North need to get their act together.

The fact that he mentioned Biafra in his letter totally nullifies his argument. Who is he trying to deceive? My friend, take ya sacking like a man and STFU!

Dem don start again?

Source please!

PHEW! That was HOTTT!

Where is switch47 with his nonsense predictions?

Why does Drogba always do that Primary 1 skill instead of playing the obvious pass?

And someone said Chelsea players are old. . . . . thats not what I'm seeing here. . . . LFS did not conduct a proper pre-season fitness programme.

Even Bosingwa and Kalou stepped their game up. Kalou is looking sublime  

Drogba's first touch is also holding up today, he is winning headers and proving a thorn in their side. He still has an extra 20% of fitness to recover.

Akolawole:
This is Chelsea that i know NOT LFS chelsea.

World class.

For real! No too much passes! Just hit them where it hurts!


And they say Lampard is shite! Can Gerrard do what Lampard did there in that tight space?

Is it today that Nigerians have been running Ponzi-schemes?

Back in 1991, we had one guy in PH called Umanah Umanah. The WHOLE of PH invested in his ponzi-scheme and it was the biggest news in PH for about a year. Even as an 8 year old, I could not escape the big news in town. Even our driver and housegirl took their money to him. Soon enough, the banks got jittery because no one was depositing anymore and they shut down his operation. He was offering basic returns of 40 per cent, plus more if you introduced anyone else to his company. When the bubble burst, more than N200m was lost by PH indigenes (At least 1 in 5 people lost their savings). He was defended in court by Ledum Mittee (now head of MOSOP) and emerged scott-free (apparently after bribing Babangida; or so they say).

Why una dey call my name for here? I don't know anything about Visa application process. I was born British.

Why should Mikel not apply for British Passport? British passport can take you anywhere you want to go, unlike Naija passport. As I dey like this sef, I no get Naija passport cos it's worthless.

ALL FOOTBALLERS get red pali after 5 years. Almunia and Mikel Arteta are soon to receive theirs.

Mikel has now been here three and a half years. (Remember work permit was granted for his Man Utd move)

1.5 years to go.

@Chamo, I believe Yakubu married a Portuguese chick and they gave him right of residency or conditional citizenship or something. They must be divorced, hence Everton had to apply for Work Permit for him.

There is nothing new under the Sun.

Igbo's were practising democracy way before the Europeans ever dreamed of it.

There is no reason why democracy cannot work in Africa as long as the people are united.

Its been a one-horse race since the start of the season.

Eldee, I don't agree with your statement.

We all seek mental stimulation in lyrics, no matter how highly educated.

Javalove is a codemaster, yet he seeks stimulation in music.

Even the educated classes prefer to listen to stimulating songsters like Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, The Beatles etc. Sam Cooke never hit his peak until he recorded 'Change gon' come'. Likewise Marvin Gaye with 'Mercy Me'. Ditto Otis Redding.

When we want to gyrate, that is a different story. Thats where artists like D'Banj, Koffi Olomide, Timbaland etc come into play.

However, it isn't a rappers job to get us dancing, thats the job of the producer.

The rapper is there to spit with cadence and rhythm first, otherwise we wont listen. Then, when he grabs our attention, he can only keep it with stimulating lyrics.

Twista is one of the illest rappers rhythmically. He can catch my attention, but he can't keep it for long cos his lyrics are empty. Same goes for Flo-ridah. Similarly, I am not too fond of rappers who have good lyrics but a stuttering flow - eg: Immortal technique, GZA etc

BTW, I wouldn't read too much into Barrack saying Jay Z is his favourite rapper. He probably doesn't even listen to HipHop. These politicians love to lie. If Jigga was not helping him with his campaign, he'd probably say Puffy is his favourite rapper. And BTW, Jay HAS good lyrics to go with his flow.

@ AK, not to get back to this first touch debate. . . . I feel you, but in my experience, size is no excuse. Guys like Kanu, Berbatov, Ibrahimovic, Mark Viduka, even Peter Crouch are giants, but they still have exquisite touch. Some would say that Berba and Ibrahimovic have the best first touch in the world today.

Drogba presence and aerial prowess is the best in the world as of today. In previous years, he was also the hardest working striker in the world, but that has been declining badly. That is why I have questioned his place in the team over the last few months. Anyone who knows me pre-2007 would never identify me as anti-Drogba. Infact, I supported him in his first 2 years when everyone was dissing him. I realised that our style of play was based around his hardwork. But what irks me is when strikers forget what made them great - hardwork!

I hope you remember that Yekini improved his first touch as the years went by. Besides I wouldn't compare DD to those guys you mentioned in terms of touch. Maybe Yekini in his earlier days.

Yeah, Im glad Hiddink recognises that fitness is the first thing he needs to work on. LFS let that go badly.

Another thing I read in the paper this morning is that he plans to pair Drogba and Anelka upfront. I have never been too much in support of this because we lack 4-4-2 wingers, for example, Kalou is not a suitable winger in a 4-4-2, but if anyone has the tactical nous to make it work, Hiddink is the one.

Nateevs, I also read that he deployed Deco as a DM in training yesterday. Can you confirm? And if so, do you think its feasible?

@ Somze, I thought you were sceptical about Hiddink during the Euro's. Why the change of heart?

Finally, if we are going to play 4-4-2, Ballack gotta go!

O boy, you don start again this early morning. 


Apart from going to the website of Drogba's boot sponsor, what other evidence do you have to offer?

I can show you a link where one contributor dared to suggest DD has a good first touch and was laughed off.

OK, I agree, Drogba has a brilliant touch. I shall now go and consult Debosky to help me find a new adjective to describe Berbatov, Kanu and Mark Viduka's first touch.

Again, you fail to answer two simple questions:


(1.) Name another Chelsea player with a worse first touch than Drogba (Touch to feet, not touch in the air)

(2.) Name another Premiership striker with a worse first touch except the three or four I mentioned earlier (which is arguable anyway).


If you can provide these answers, then we can move on to something else. If not, then lets agree to disagree.

If students get flogged, why not teachers?