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Nateevs,

How was the training session?

What was Hiddink doing with the boys?

I still haven't been to Cobham yet to watch them training, although I have been planning to for some time.

Shebi you know Big Tel, the fat Chelsea kit man? Thats my guy from College. It is impossible to reach that guy these days. That was my last source of free-tickets to the Bridge. I haven't been since the Arsenal game last year.

Guy, I have told you to leave the abrasiveness alone. . . .it is not today we dey argue on Chelsea thread without resorting to slanging. Even if we cuss each other, it is in a friendly context.

There is no need to brag about how much you have played football or not. This is the internet and anyone can claim anything. Simply, if you think Drogba has a great first touch, then I don't know if you grew-up playing football with flying-carpet or those bouncy red Tango footballs.

Also, if you do not understand the meaning of 'unique' in the context I used it in, please contact Debosky. I am not here to give you lessons on the comprehension of basic English.

lol.

This is simply a Yankee plot to install their military in the Bight of Biafra as a nations' 'sovereignty' has been threatened.

That aside sha, Ijaw fishermen have been travelling to Equitorial Guinea since 19 kporodim. I believe we have ancestral claim to that land and all the oil that goes with it.

^^^ everyone is entitled to their opinion, even craze man!   

I do not query your opinion, I just question your judgement.

If your opinions are skewed, that is your own business. Somze said my views are 'unique' and you dey nod head like lizard.  . I simply roped in others' opinions to prove that your views are more anomalous than mine.

^^^Exactly! I do not expect you to 'hate' him. But does he have a good first touch? The answer is simply yes or no.

We are not saying Drogba is rubbish, simply trying to have an subjective debate about DD's first touch. That is divorced from his 'general' all-round ability.

Besides, I thought they said Adebayor is the new Kanu. Abi Kanu is not known for his exquisite first touch? I actually think Adebayor and Bendtner's first touch is more than alright. Its just that the rest of the Arsenal team have such good first touches that they look clueless in comparison.

I am still waiting for someone to come and tell me DD has a 'good' first touch except for Somze and FBS. I shall be waiting all day. Even Drogba fanatics like Dyabman and Akinalabi have the gumption not to fall into that trap.

@ Somze, all me links are working. Check ya antivirus or something.

Nateevs, I dey work, no fit show for Bridge.

FBS:
Amazing. . .this is amazing. some people are just blind. No one in his senses will say DD touch is bad. I mean you just have to be unable to see very well before making such a statement.

Oga ooo, na only you dey watch premiership? Look mr man, you can claim to have first class degree in EPL, that doesn't mean shit 'cos by saying that DD's touch is bad, you have just lost it. You have lost your mind. man, you must be blind.

This guy, abeg take a chill pill. I no sabi you from anywhere to dey exchange hostile sentiments with you.

I cannot believe that we are here arguing that DD has a good first touch. I thought this argument was beyond debate.

So far, I am waiting to see who comes out in support of you and Somze's views. I hope you know we are not talking about chesting the ball, but actual first touch with the feet.

I am also waiting for you to name one prem striker apart from the possible exception of those I listed who has a worse first touch than Drogba.

First, you guys started out by claiming that our view was 'unique', but in reality, your view is anomalous.

Henry sef dey blind?

Even Sauron says he sometimes wonders from Drogba's touch if he is a professional.

Dyabman - "Drogba has a good first touch on his chest" 

From BBC:


Abramovich 'suffers £6.3bn loss'



Abramovich has made a loss according to a Russian magazine

Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has seen his wealth reduced by about $9bn (£6.3bn) in the financial crisis, according to a business magazine.

Abramovich held on to second place among Russia's wealthiest people with a fortune of $13.9bn, said Finans magazine.

Last year, American magazine Forbes estimated Abramovich was worth $23.5bn.

Russia has been hit hard during the recent financial crisis and several of the country's tycoons have suffered.

An updated Forbes list is due in around two months.

nateevs:
Anybody who watched football for a considerable amount of time must never Drogba has a good first touch. I can't even believe someone will dare argue this.

My brother I tire. One would think some of these cats have never played football in their life. They are just bastardising the game we all know and love.

FBS:
how many complete strikers do you know? There is always something missing.

There is no complete striker, meaning you concede that Drogba may be a little deficient in first touch?

Dayokanu is no 1 Bayern Munich fan. Ask him what he thinks about Luca Toni's first touch.

It is a bastardisation of football to claim DD has a good first touch. We have all played and watched football all our lives, from monkey-post to 11-a-side. Do not try and dribble us like Maradona.

If I make a list of Premiership strikers today, the only strikers Drogba would be competing with in terms of first touch are Anichebe, Kenwyne Jones and maybe Dirk Kuyt - and only Kenwyne Jones is truly on his level. If I make a list of Championship strikers, Drogba would still be in the bottom quartile in terms of first touch.

I said it before and Ill say it again, Drogba was one of the best strikers in the world when he had a high workrate. I just don't know whats left of him now that his workrate is declining rapidly.

FBS:
who is everyone? just the 3 of you? I can find a million people who thinks DD is a fantastic player.
just becos we ( I assume myself and somze) disagree with you don't make us idol worshipers. Shait, I can as well say that you worship Nic, will that be correct?

Why not ask anyone else? Does Debosky think DD has a good first touch? What about Wormy, even Akola? 8 out of 10 seasoned observers will tell you his first touch is rubbish. In all my time arguing with Akola, Akola has never opened his mouth to tell me DD has a good first touch, although he is DD's no 1 fan. He rather tells me the good side of Drogbas game (finishing, strength, workrate, desire), not mindlessly arguing about something thats not there.

Nobody says DD is not a fantastic player. Messi is a fantastic player but if I say he is poor in the air, I'm sure Barca fans would not argue, unlike mindless FBS and Somze who INSIST that DD has a good first touch, even after Thierry Henry concedes that DD has a bad first touch.

DD WAS a fantastic player, may still be again if he can get his workrate back.

Take Henry's statement:

"Drogba sometimes gets stick for his first touch, but you have to respect him as he runs everywhere."


Minus his fantastic workrate from that statement and what are you left with?

This is why I keep stressing that workrate is essential for DD to be classed as a great player. Without it, he falls short.

Like I said, type "Drogbas first touch" into google and see what people have to say. I wonder if you would have this debate if you type in "Raul's first touch" or "Rooney's first touch". The only other player you would have this debate about is Dirk Kuyt or Sol Campbell or Kenwyne Jones. Simply - there are a great many people who think Drogba has a poor first touch. There is no need to debate this, its not like we are saying he's a rubbish player. Simply, the touch part of his game is not up to scratch.

Thierry Henry. no question. ever heard the term 'Drogba first touch'? that comes from his sh*t first touches and is used to describe anyone with a sh*t first touch.
Henry all the way.

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080719052823AA8k9iV

You guys should just google "Drogba's first touch" and see what people have to say about it.

Even Thierry Henry recognised the fact that Drogba has to run around like a madman in order to compensate for his poor first touch. That was the Drogba I liked - the Drogba that ran around like a madman.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-366405/Drogba-doesnt-credit--Henry.html


Arsenal forward Thierry Henry claims Chelsea striker Didier Drogba is not given enough credit for his all-round impact despite criticism of his goal record.

Henry has just eclipsed Ian Wright's Arsenal scoring record with his two goals against Sparta Prague and was looking to increase his tally of 186 goals against Manchester City.

Drogba, meanwhile, scored 16 goals last season for Chelsea, while he has already hit the net on eight occasions in this campaign.

However, he has still seen his strike rate criticised following his £24million arrival from Marseille at the start of last season.

Henry believes the Ivory Coast international is not given the credit he deserves and insisted: "Drogba sometimes gets stick for his first touch, but you have to respect him as he runs everywhere.





After the interval, Drogba, so often criticised for having a poor first touch, showed how much his all-round game has improved by creating two chances - http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/chelsea-4-watford-0-inspiration-from-drogba-does-trick-423945.html



Some Nairalanders may remember that Juventus made a £14m bid for Drogba before Chelsea hijacked the deal. You wanna hear Juve fans discussing his poor first touch?

Go here: http://www.juventuz.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-5952.html




Everyone can see Drogba has a poor first touch except idol-worshippers.

hehehehe. . . . wonders shall never end. . . .so you guys truly think Drogba has a good first touch?. . . . only a brave man can take such a stand. . . .  this isn't a case of kicking a man when he's down. I have always considered Drogba's first touch, technique and passing to be the worst I have ever encountered from a professional footballer in all my 18 years of watching football. . . . even in 2004, I thought Drogba's touch was woeful. . . . .Somze's insistence on praising Drogba's first touch disqualifies this argument. . . . even Akola admits that "we all know what Drogba is not good at, but lets concentrate on what he is good at". . . . this is the difference between Akola and Somze. . . . one is at least objective, the other is an idol worshipper. . . . is it only me who thinks Drogba's first touch is poor. . . . . can I get a witness?


Speaking of objectivity, how can we qualify the following statement from FBS:

FBS:
DD was fantastic on saturday night from the blact of the whilstle.
Nic/Kalou missed glaring chances setup for them by DD. In fact he could have simply gotten a goal (or two). some thanks to the watford keeper  and Ashley cole for blocking a goal bound effort.

Anelka (who scored hattrick; who played most of the game on the right-wing, except the last 20 mins) made glaring misses after being set up superbly by DD. 

Drogba (who started upfront) did not make misses. He was simply unlucky that Watford keeper made some saves. 

Anyone trying to quantify the above statement would simply conclude that you have a vested interest in deifying Drogba and downplaying the efforts of Kalou and Anelka to boot.

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=234579.msg3472663#msg3472663 date=1234756400]Best Hip Hop track in 3 years? Ibime are you high on cohiba? this track is below-par or average at best [/quote]Not at all. I have a keen ear for flows - and this flow pattern is NEW! I have never heard a flow pattern like this before. It is not one-two step, nor is it Dirrty South, nor is it East-Coast. It is fresh!

Somze will never admit that Drogba's touch is woeful!

Lemme spell it out: Drogba's touch is not up to league 2 level!

Till today, Somze believes that Drogbas touch is good. Is this myopic or what?


Famous quote from Debosky:

"Teaching Drogba technique is like teaching an old man to dance Makossa"


Once, we establish that fact, then we have to realise that WHAT MAKES DROGBA GREAT IS HIS WORKRATE, PACE AND STRENGTH!

Soon as these go (workrate and pace are gone, only strength is left), Drogba is finished! That is why I have been advocating to sell Drogba before he reaches thirty. This is simple analysis!

It is harmful to keep players on past glory.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHnsO4_PIks&hl=en&fs=1[/flash]

somze:
2. You are a bit too quick to talk about history, perhaps you know little about Anelka's problematic history.

What history? Drogba had no history before 2003! The difference between me and you is that I have been concerned about Drogba's drop in workrate for the last 2 years because I realise that Drogba is deficient in basic technique and his workrate is the only thing that makes him a great player. You, on the other hand choose to idolise him, not adhering to basic objective analysis.

somze:
I swear, his gods are with him . . . against small teams

My friend sharrap! Anelka is not my cup of tea but the technique with which he finished off Watford is something Drogba could only dream about. I have said it before and Ill say it again, Drogba without stamina is as useless as John Carew.

Class (Anelka: 1997-2009) is permanent, whilst form (Drogba: 2006-2007) is temporary.

Drogba needs to go back to being a workhorse, because he is no use to me unless he runs like a slave.

So all of una hear the tory too?

To this day, this is why India is banned from footie. 

Dayo, my version of Thunder Balogun story tells me that Balogun's brother was the goalkeeper. Balogun fired a hard shot that hit his brother in the belly, killing him. From then on, Thunder Balogun was banned from using his left foot by FIFA.

Ah! I suppose reach Gambia this April. I hope this is not a common occurence, otherwise I might as well cancel the trip and go to PH instead.

Hehehehe. . . . what is going on here?

Lemme just say this: Nas' ether diss to Jay Z is only a classic diss in the eyes of the unseasoned observer. I personally thought Ether was trash. Just a bunch of stupid lines that had no base in reality. Jay Z's diss to Nas on Blueprint 2 was far superior. The perception that Nas won that battle only came about because people WANTED Nas to win. It was like a fight between commercial HipHop and Underground HipHop and at that moment, people were fed-up with Jay Z because he was all over our TV screens. If you compare Ether to Blueprint 2, Blueprint 2 easily bodies Ether.

As for Canibus, lyrically he is up there as the best in the biz, but as an emcee he falls short because sonically, his music is a dissapointment.

About time!

Chelsea have just reported £66m loss for last year. . . . .

. . . but the good news is that Roman has converted a large part of the interest-free loan he gave us into shares.

Razorr:
Anyway, because of his soft training methods at Chelsea, there was a general decline in fitness in the squad.
One of Chelsea's greatest strengths under Mourinho and the reason why we were usually unbeatable was because we were always fitter than anyone else. We were always at our best in the last couple of minutes of each match and we were known to dazzle and score late goals.

That fitness was still there under Grant, but has gone abegging under Scolari. Chelsea is now guilty of conceeding late goals.

I expect Hiddink to correct this, as one of the main strengths of his teams is their fitness and vigour.

Chelsea has got a bunch of skillful superstars and with the right amount of fitness, we should salvage something this season.

Don't get me wrong, it won't happen in a few days or weeks, but we would get it right!

Nice analysis, but fitness is set by pre-season training and cannot be altered much in the middle of the season, not when you are playing 2 games a week. Hiddink will have to work around the unfit players Scolari left and that means rotation. Thats why managers set a fitness-plan for pre-season to take them through the full season. This usually involves hard running in pre-season and plenty of rest between February and May when you enter the latter stages of the Cups and CL. Flogging the players now will not improve their fitness much, it could even be counterproductive as they arrive for matches tired.

Scolari has already phocked up and Hiddink will have to bear the brunt.

It is well-rumoured that Rijkaard will be taking over at Milan in the summer. Ancelotti will most likely be moving to Chelsea. I really HATE the idea of Ancelotti taking over at Chelsea. His teams are too often pedestrain, and he sees no problem in losing 10 games per season.

Is anyone else perturbed by reports that Carlo Ancelotti will be taking over in the summer? It already seems a done deal as the Milan Chief Executive Adriano Galliani explicitly stated that Ancelotti would consider his options in the summer. We all know Ancelotti is RA's chief-advisor and watched the CL final with him in Moscow. Are Chelsea fans ready for impending 4th placed league finishes when he takes over?

Tayo, first of all, the article does not tell us that tightening lending restrictions were the aim of the regulatory overhaul, it just tells us that the Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats are AFRAID that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing. I believe any proposed regulation of Frannie and Freddie was done with the intention to curb their tendency to purchase risky Mortgage-backed securities without hedging their risk.

As your article says, this was the intention of the regulation: The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates

Where does it mention curbing loans to subprime borrowers? It is simply a regulation of accounting procedures and risk-management, like any Govt should do to companies of such strategic significance. Infact, Bush encouraged subprime lending.



I told you to do a google search and you refused. Now, eat these links:


http://goldnews.bullionvault.com/bush_president_home_ownership_mortgage_loan_092520081


The looming indictment of Fannie and Freddie's senior management aside, pointing the finger of blame in this way is truly remarkable. Because Bush himself knew all along just how important "innovation" in home loans would prove to a key plank of what's laughably called his "economic policy".

   See, the President himself has repeatedly demanded just these same changes to the US housing market since 2002. He made the shift a key plank of his 2004 re-election campaign. His administration – now scrambling to try and clean up the mess with tax-payers' money and fresh Dollar bills – set it as core objective.

   And now "the decline in the housing market [has] set off a domino effect across our economy."

   So maybe politicians don't know best after all, ?

[b]   "The United States is fortunate in that our homeownership rate is at an all-time high," announced Dubya back in June 2003. "Low interest rates continue to encourage millions of Americans to become first-time homeowners."

   But cheap money and record-high numbers of debtors just weren't enough – not in 2003. And so that month marked not only the (first) final victory in the War of Terror; it also saw the Bush administration declare June 2003 to be National Home Ownership Month.

   It wasn't the first such real-estate jamboree. The month of June has in fact been National Home Ownership Month in the United States every year since 2002. Because capitalist America's march of progress since the Depression – back when the typical home-loan matured inside 10 years, on a loan-to-value ratio of 50%, and with a balloon payment due at the end – could be measured in Bush's philosophy by the range, variety and free availability of its mortgage products.

   Widening that range and availability would surely prove an unalloyed good. Right?

   "By a significant margin," the Decider went on in June 2003, "minority families are less likely to own their own homes, " And so "the goal," as Bush had explained 12 months earlier to the Department of Housing & Urban Development (HUD), "is everybody who wants to own a home has got a shot at doing so."[/b]

   Hence the term "subprime" – meaning mortgages lent to people who, without the US state on hand to help them buy what the home-lenders would not otherwise fund, couldn't previously raise a loan. Maybe that was an issue of race, racism, opportunity or education. Some 40 million Americans remain "unbanked" today on one estimate. Lacking the very simplest financial service – a place to receive their pay check – they also represent a key market for check cashers, pawn brokers, and local loan sharks.

   Either way, Bush made it a political point. For here was a problem, a social problem. And what's the point of government if not to fix problems?

   "The problem is, three-quarters of Anglos own their homes, and yet less than 50% of African Americans and Hispanics own homes," Bush had reported when launching the first National Home Ownership Month in June 2002. "That ownership gap signals that something might be wrong in the land of plenty. And we need to do something about it."

   Maybe again it was just coincidence that the Federal Reserve was then on its way to slashing interest rates to a five-decade low, delivering the first negative real interest rates (after inflation in the cost of living) since the super-soaraway '70s. Either way, Bush wanted "the entire housing industry to help at least 5.5 million minority families become homeowners by the end of this decade."

And more links. . . . .


http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/06/17/bush.minority.homes/index.html

Should I continue?

Like I said, just google "Bush aims to increase minority home ownership" so I don't have to waste my time.

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=231633.msg3452595#msg3452595 date=1234289268]Let me try and answer all you guys in one swoop.

First to Ibime. Can you kindly tell us what the purpose of the bank bailout is? You are here telling us what it has supposedly achieved and you cannot tell us if it achieve the intended aim - credit flow. Abegi.[/quote]It is this kind of assinine logic which irks me when discussing finance. How does Tayo-D know that credit has not been eased? Do you read the financial papers? From reading about banks being denied overnight withdrawal facility almost everyday last summer, we no longer read about it. What economic indicators does Tayo-D use to decipher that credit has not eased? LIBOR rate has fallen significantly to its lowest rate since 2004 and Tayo-D is here shouting that credit has not eased. Do you think that by easing credit, they mean Tayo-D would now be able to borrow like he was borrowing? No company which is in good health is being refused credit, unlike last year. The only companies we see dropping now are THE SICK! The market is working, the weak are being weeded out and the strong are still standing. Many others are cutting costs, hence we see job losses.

Besides, please tell me by your economic forecasts, what time-limit did you set on the bailout? Was it 2 months, 5 months, a year maybe? This is like me asking you why traffic has not been eased when you are still in the process of widening the freeway. For goodness sake, bailout money is still being dispensed as we speak. Half the problem of liquidity in the market now is down to capital flight, not because institutions are unwilling to lend. I really hate uninformed analysis.

Every economist knows that the bailout is just one-part of the war on frozen credit. The other part is to get the banks to declare their full losses which Gordon Brown and George Bush have been trying to do since last year. As far as the money in the system now, liquidity is returning. The short-term aim of the bailout was to stop short-runs on financial institutions which it has achieved very successfully. As you were told when the bail-out was passed "THIS IS JUST TO STEM THE TIDE!". The next step is to reverse capital flight from the market. This will not happen until we get full financial disclosure. No amount of bailout can reverse this.




[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=231633.msg3452595#msg3452595 date=1234289268]I am aware that while the subprime mortgage problems is the foundation, the fact that wall street basically initiated investments on these mortgages compounded the problem. Why do I blame Dems? Becuase they initiated the subprime mortgage mess which is nothing but a manipulation of the markets. Bush tried to curtail this situation and was resisted by the Dems. [/quote]Another lie from a rabid mind. One of George Bush's well known policies was the increase of homeownership. Please google "George Bush increase minority homeownership" before coming here to peddle falsehoods.

somze:
Also like Sauron pointed out he can get players on loan.

How can he get players on loan when the window is closed.


@ Debosky and Sauron,

Forget about Rijkaard. Rijkaard is a non-entity where we are talking about football managers. Rijkaard that relegated Sparta Rotterdam for the first time in their history. As soon as Henk Ten-Cate left Barca, Rijkaard was finished. He wasted the greatest squad I have ever seen. Chelsea fans calling for Rijkaard should consider how Rijkaard will fare with players like Malouda and Kalou before shouting any and anyhow. Rijkaard's defences are known for their porosity.


Moving on, forget this JM argument. Only a Chelsea fan can argue about JM. To everyone else JM is a great manager cos his team will more than likely beat your team in a square-off. The only reason some Chelsea fans (myself included) have a problem with Jm is because JM is not a club-builder.

JM is a tactical genius. He does not need £500million squad to win. He can win even with nonsense players. JM's flaws are not on the football pitch, they are off it. His planning for the future was a real letdown, as well as his transfer policy and his promotion of a greed culture. There is no need to argue all these, we have rehashed these arguments over and over again. Some say this is because RA demands instant success. I don't agree. SAF is winning, yet buying and blooding youngsters like Nani, Anderson, Fabio, Rafael, Possibon and now the two Serbian youngsters. I put JM on a pedestal with SAF and I expect no less from him. However, as a Chelsea fan, I have never watched a match anticipating a defeat when JM was manager. Tactically, he is unparalleled. Go and watch the 2nd leg against Barca in 2005, when he completely changed the formation and we blitzed Barca three goals in the first 15 minutes. Then go and watch the first leg CL semi-final against Liverpool when we won 1-0 but should have won by 4 goals if not for wasteful finishing. These are matches when even I wasn't sure what formation we were playing; and I am usually good at sussing out which formations work against each other and which don't. So finally, JM is a GREAT manager, but is he a club builder? I choose to disagree.

I wonder if Tayo-D believes that by telling himself a lie over and over again, it will make it true. Have we not had massive mortgage defaults in 1992 and previously? Is Bill Clinton also to blame for the subprime mess in England and Spain? How many mortgages have been defaulted on that the world economy should come to a standstill? Many bubbles burst, not just mortgages. Mortgages were simply the first to go. The Junk bonds market also collapsed as well as many other credit-fuelled commodities. Any neutral observer would point fingers at cheap credit, rabid speculation and unregulated CDS's and MBS's as the cause of this crisis but this guy keeps pointing fingers at dems. This is what happens when you have no knowledge of finance, you think everything is simply buying and selling. People are waging billion dollar bets on $1 worth of mortgages and you blame the mortgages for the crisis? You must be bananas! Are Phil Gramm and Republican law makers non-complicit in all of this?



Roubini was the first economist to predict this crisis and it is best he tells us the cause of this crisis:

Economist Nouriel Roubini wrote in January 2009 that subprime mortgage defaults triggered the broader global credit crisis, but were just one symptom of multiple debt bubble collapses: "This crisis is not merely the result of the U.S. housing bubble’s bursting or the collapse of the United States’ subprime mortgage sector. The credit excesses that created this disaster were global. There were many bubbles, and they extended beyond housing in many countries to commercial real estate mortgages and loans, to credit cards, auto loans, and student loans. There were bubbles for the securitized products that converted these loans and mortgages into complex, toxic, and destructive financial instruments. And there were still more bubbles for local government borrowing, leveraged buyouts, hedge funds, commercial and industrial loans, corporate bonds, commodities, and credit-default swaps, " It is the bursting of the many bubbles that he believes are causing this crisis to spread globally and magnify its impact.

lucabrasi:
yes,its not too much to feed dogs who are specially breeded for law enforcement,besides in a country like nigeria,

My friend comot dia! Which kain dog be dat? Na caviar dem dey chop?

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=231633.msg3450838#msg3450838 date=1234271260]@Ibime,
It was intended to get credit flowing again. Where is that credit naa?[/quote]Has the money been dispensed or has it failed in advance?

Credit will only flow when companies reveal their true losses. The bailout is is only a small part of the solution. It has worked tremendously in that the crazy wild-west short-selling of last summer has ceased. Without the bailout, hedge-funds would have sunk another 10 major banks by now. Some say the bailout doesn't go far enough, this one says it has failed.

Hiddink is ma favourite coach but I doubt he is the short-term fix we need. To play Hiddink's style of football, you need to overhaul the squad. He is not a very defensive coach. Right now, we need someone who knows the team such as Steve Clark or Avram, just to see us through till summer. This is a big gamble cos new ideas (Hiddink's ideas) take time to settle in. You need a full summer programme for that. This could put our CL place in danger.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=157494.msg3450945#msg3450945 date=1234272326]Where was the Brit accent in your flow, Ibime? I am impressed.[/quote]I spit both ways like a bi-sexual. Started spitting Yankee-style in Naij but flipped the accent when I don dey England small.

Later I shall send you a link to ma Britico flows.

Ofokasibe wey get H-factor dey call me Bush man. Wonders shall never end.