₦airaland Forum

Well, as soon as the people start to take their PR outside Nigeria, I expect the Nigerian Government to get scared. For years, they have tarnished our people's image, labelling us as saboteurs, terrorists etc even when they have been complicit in many of the crimes in the Niger Delta. I long recognised that it was important to win the PR battle with the Nigerian Government if the struggle is to achieve anything.

Kudos to Friends of the Earth, GreenPeace and all the environmental groups. They have the political leverage to turn it into an international issue.

Mr McCain was doing well with his fairly moderate views IMO. . . . until he brought this Sarah Palin in. . . . it is funny how the Republican party was never fired up behind McCain until he brought this redneck bitch in. . . . we are supposed to be talking about how to move America forward. . . . but as usual the Republicans have reverted to type by trying to fight this election on culture wars. . . . . and these are the people Tayo-D chooses to dine with?. . . . I wish the Republicans would fight elections on fiscal policy alone. . . . I may consider voting for them then if I was American. . . .but throwing sand in our eyes by instituting culture wars shows the level of their character. . . . so phock them. . . . that is when this election becomes divisive. . . . divisive policies by divisive people. . . . let them know the world is becoming urbanised now. . . . soon enough their divisive politics will stop attracting voters. . . their fan base is already getting old. . . . in 20 years they will be struggling to win elections unless they drop these culture wars and bible fanaticism. . . . Tayo, you better believe that your skin colour is not a pigment of the Republicans imagination. . . it is real! . . . and hell yeah, they have made it into an election issue. . . . country first, national security, the American President Americans have been waiting for. . . . .what do you think all these slogans are if not playing to their redneck base?. . .  these are the people you choose to pin your hat on. . . . nama shobiri!

yemmyse:
Thank u Mr Financial/Economic Analyst, even when the FED RESERVE was high the price of food stuff and other commodities were skyrocketing. There are more basic problems to tackle.

You are lucky Federal Reserve was high otherwise you would be dying of starvation right now. 

lemme show him how inflammatory his comments are in equal kind.

yemmyse:
What is my problem with Fed Reserve.

Your problem with Federal Reserve is your ignorance. . . . without Federal Reserve to buffet you, your Naira will fall in value and prices of your goods will double.

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=168844.msg2772247#msg2772247 date=1220898002]There is nothing obvious about her not granting any interviews so far. The press cannot dictate her schedule and must abide by her dictates[/quote]STFU. . . just admit that the bitch needs to be debriefed before they let her infront of an interviewer.

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=168844.msg2772247#msg2772247 date=1220898002]Oh please tell me, how many days, nay months, nay years after his run for the presidency that Obama finally wound up on Bill O'Reilly? Please compare that to the few days it takes before Sarah palin will be on TV with a hostile host and network.  it seems like you just do not judge on a set standard.[/quote]This is what I don't get about you crackpots. . . .do you know how far out Fox news is?. . . . sheeeeet. . . . what do you call a hostile channel?. . . . CNN?. . . . let me tell you, in Europe, NBC is considered to be a centrist channel. . . . . compared to the rubbish bile you guys spit on Fox News, there is no comparison. . . . .I heard a Republican on radio claiming that the media is left wing. . . a left winger came on and said the media is right wing. . . . I have news for all of you. . . . .THE MEDIA IS MOSTLY CENTRIST!. . . . .Kobojunkie came here to tell me CNN is left wing. . . . have you all lost your marbles or is that what Fox News taught you?. . . . GTF out of here!

. . . . don't worry, we will send Palin to Guerilla TV. . . . because that is the left wing equivalent to Fox news. . . . bastards!. . . . you think people have your obviously biased, crackpot, redneck time?. . . . you don't even make an attempt at unbiased journalism. . .  .at least other networks try to disguise it when they have partizan leanings.

hmmmmmmmmmmm. . . . . . forget all this WAZOBIA mentality. . . , why must presidency be rotated? . . . it encourages culture of chopping cos everyone wants to grab the most for their tribe whenever they sniff power. . . .

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=168740.msg2771584#msg2771584 date=1220889323]@Davidylan,
Your blind support of Obama is obviously affecting your judgement. Racism in the US and Obama got about the same number of votes as Hillary? You should be ashamed of yourself.[/quote]A white man said something on the radio yesterday. . . . if Obama was white, the ticket would already be signed sealed and delivered. . . . if he was white, even Bill Clinton of 1992 couldn't match his popularity. . . .

[quote author=sly-k link=topic=168474.msg2770070#msg2770070 date=1220871218]Why all these shell and killing environment stuff all the time?

something must be wrong with the host communities
and their leaders.[/quote]sly-k, if I whoze you ehn. . . .

something must be wrong with your mama toto!

bawomolo:
This startling revelation is coming on a day it emerged that the falling prices of crude oil at the international market has taken its toll on Nigeria - as the country's external reserves dropped from $64.9 billion in August 8, 2008 to $60.4 billion on the 28th of same month.

Why is our federal reserve falling?

Must our economy be beholden to the price of a barrell of oil?

What happened to the fiscal rule that Okonjo-Iweala implemented?

I thought they said that they would only spend a certain amount off the price of a barrell and put the rest into the federal reserve. I do not expect them to be putting more than $80/barrell toward the budget anyway. . . at most $90. . . the rest should be saved in the federal reserve. .  . so we should still be in the clear and actually increasing our federal reserve instead of reducing it.

WTF is happening?

If I go to a church and the pastor starts preaching about politics, you can be sure I will never return to that church.

Religion and politics don't mix. Pastors will tell you to support a narcissistic mass murderer as long as he is trying to pass some of 'Gods Laws' into the constitution. Religion gave us George Bush.


Pastor Bakare, STFU!

I heard somewhere that Palin will not be giving interviews for the next two months. Is this because she is too inexperienced to hang with the big dogs?


http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Most candidates love getting free television time, especially long interviews where they can make their points at length and have the voters get to know them better. The Sunday talk shows are a favorite. Today John McCain will get a full half hour on CBS' Face the Nation, Barack Obama goes on ABC's This Week, and Joe Biden takes the hot seat at NBC's Meet the Press. Sarah Palin is avoiding free media when every network would love to have her. All it would take is one phone call to CNN, for example, and she'D be on there for half an hour, for free. This behavior gives the impressesion that the McCain campaign is afraid to have her interviewed in depth by experienced reporters for fear of what she might say. The problem is not gaffes--Biden makes them from time to time, but will still be grilled. The real problem is she might say something intentionally that she really and truly believes (like victims of rape should be forced to bear their rapist's child) and this will shock the viewers. It will be interesting to see how long Palin can avoid giving interviews and whether the media starts to point out this behavior

Any product you see or use, there's a big chance (some say 70%) that the raw materials come from Africa.

All these polls don't matter.

What matters is the no of electoral votes each candidate is projected to win.

28% of Americans are Republican but a lot of these Republicans are concentrated in the South and Bible belt and are only chasing the same electoral votes.

Obama is currently expected to win 301 electoral votes.

McCain is expected to win 224.

There are another 160 which are up in the air, therefore we will see strong campaigning in the marginal states - Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, etc.

Oga admin, well done o!

Nothing new here. . . . gas flares are everywhere. . . . two near my grandmothers house alone. . . . there is an almighty one on Eleme express way, just 20 minutes drive from PH. . . . it looks like hellfire itself. . . . .look at all the gas Nigeria is wasting that they could use to solve PHCN problems. . . . not only Shell but the NNPC refinery flares gas openly. . . . and they pass it off as a national symbol. . . . everyday for the thief, one day for the owner, its all good. . . . firstly, regulation needs to be tightened. . . .but at the same time, foreign oil companies cannot tell us one thing in their fancy adverts about caring for the environment and totally disregard ethics and morality. . . .

kudos to the filmmakers. . . . they should keep doing the good International Relations work. . . .the rest of us will do the military work. . . . every struggle has two sides. . . . . I wonder if this video will make it to CNN sha. . . . or even common AIT or NTA, talkless of UN floor or Hague . .I doubt it. . . .even Nairaland will not put on the front page. . . .  . . .  Mr Seun, put this shit on your front page abeg. . . .if its LAWMA officials or skinny girls who hate themselves, we will see it on front page. . . . remember that you are a media mogul now and that comes with some moral responsibilities.

@ Poster,

I think you are talking about Thailand, not Indonesia.

dyabman:
@Ibime
Chelsea should sign Lukas Podolski(striker) & Bastian Scweinstiger(winger) in January.It has been reported that he is unhappy at Bayern Munich and maybe Bastian Scweinstiger as winger as both

Podolski is not Chelsea standard. Maybe Schweinsteiger.

@ Hannibal

West Ham were not in the relegation zone when Curbishley took over. It was his prerogative to get them out cos he took them in there. Alll your fancy theories about Tevez and Mascherano not being fit are rubbish.

By the way, this is why Keegan was sacked:

Kevin Keegan stunned owner Mike Ashley by asking for £200m to bring in David Beckham, Thierry Henry and Frank Lampard to Newcastle before he quit. (Sun)

Absolutely no clue.

4 Play, go and sleep. Your claim that they are a net gain is completely unprovable. Infact, people have shown that they lead to a rise in crime. This is not measuring all the other factors such as human happiness which Republicans tend to overlook in their quantitative way of measuring everyone's worth.

I am off to bed.

Don't bother yourself. Tayo is a ridiculous guy. Socialism my ass. Republicans will forever accuse Democrats of Socialism. If you want to see Socialism, go to Venezuela. . . . you will see that khaki no be leather.

4 Play:
The task is clear: Isolate these unwanted people who have lived merely because of ROI's strict laws and show us that they are a net cost to society. It's that simple. All we have had from you is conjecture

What a Herculean task! Abi this na PHD thesis? I have already shown you that crime has risen in Ireland which is what I claimed. I have also given you some statistics for you to form some mathematical assumptions from. I challenge you to prove that they have been a benefit to society. You cannot - yet you expect me to do likewise, knowing it will take a long time to do any indepth mathematical calculations. There are so many variables involved, no economist or political scientist has been able to prove a mathematical figure.

4 Play:
It can't be too much to ask to link something. The total abortions in the UK versus the total abortions in the UK by ROI women.

An estimated 7,000 women cross the sea for abortions each year. A recent survey found that nearly one in 10 Irish pregnancies ends in a UK clinic.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1859287.stm

According to that link above, an Irish woman can have a free abortion if she threatens suicide.  Soon many pregnant women in Ireland will be threatening suicide. .

http://struggle.ws/wsm/rbr/rbr7/abortion.html

Yet in spite of the ban on abortion and continued attempts to make all access virtually impossible, approximately 7000 Irish women every year exercise their right to choose abortion and travel to England to access legal abortion there, largely through charities provid - ing abortion services and private clinics. This figure of 7000 includes only those who are documented in English statistics by the giving of an Irish address. It does not include those who use UK addresses for reasons of confidentiality or those who travel to other countries. There has been about a 10% rise in the figures every year. An interesting statistical fact is that the majority of Irish women who have had abortions are married and already have children. It is estimated that about 150,000 Irish women have had an abortion - this averages about 1:10 of adult Irish women. Thus for Irish women abortion is common and important.

4 Play:
Precisely, the gains that these people bring(economic output/taxes) outstrips their costs(crime/welfare). You have in one sentence, ineloquently put,undermined your argument.

Silly you! I wasn't talking about net gains from anti-abortion laws. I was talking about net gains from joining the EU and strong fiscal policy.  

You have been dodging many issues I have raised.

dyabman:
@Ibime,
what up , hows your squad doing. without even goign to check i know im still toppin the managers chart.

lol. . . . I scored very well last week thanks to Defoe and a few others. . . . . I'm now 6th in my head to head league and 4th in Nairaland league although gaining fast on 3rd place. . . . plus Berbatov is now at Man Utd so my gamble paid off. . . . . they said they are going to charge me 36 points for making some transfers but I haven't seen it. . . . I changed at least 7 of my players.

I saw somewhere that 7,000 irish women travel to Uk for abortion each year so I would not dispute that.

Hannibal:
Tevez n Mascherano were unfit when they joined West Ham(no pre-season and Tevez had weight problems).
Curbishley joined West Ham in Dec 2006, Mascherano joined Liverpool a month later so how did he mishandle him??

Tevez on one leg is better than anything they have at West Ham. 

I also disagree that they were unfit. I saw Tevez in Argentina-Brazil game and he looked sharp as he always does. An unfit Tevez is fitter than the average footballer anyway.

Curbs put Mascherano on the bench for a whole month. Mascherano went to Liverpool and GBAM! He was flying from day one. Complete mishandling.

rikkyjen:
How dare you mention all these names, without mentiong Freddie Ljunberg, the dud?

Ljunberg had West Ham for lunch by banking more than 75 grand a week. thanks for Curbishley who got the dud

Hold on or was it Alan Pardew? Nah, it was Curbishley

Oh yeah, I forgot Freddie Ljungberg. What a joke! 

4 Play:
You admit that not all Irish women looking for abortion go to the UK but that many do. That is a tacit admission that some don't;that there are Irish people today who would have been aborted if the laws had been liberalised. Surely,you must have some evidence of the net costs these people are having on society.

Net costs are swallowed up by net gains. . . I have told you to drop this Ireland thing, it isn't fooling anyone. . . . we all know why Ireland is resurgent. . . firstly, Irelands case is completely different from USA. . . whether you are looking at the extended family unit, religion etc. . . . still, we all know that crime is rising in Ireland. . . .EU named Ireland as the most crime ridden country within it. . . . even US state department warned visitors about a rise in crime in Ireland. . . . all these are the costs we would see if not for their economic resurgence.

Queenisha:
I can teach my children dignity,Christian values and whatever republicans say they're fighting for.

. . . I like that . . .

dyabman:
Is it unsuited to English football or do English managers need to change their ways?[/b]

English managers certainly need to change their ways. . . . why does Kevin Keegan who has not watched any football for the last three years want to dictate transfer policy?. . . . when Newcastle asked him to submit his list of transfer targets, he listed Bastian Schweinsteiger. . . . is he crazy?. . . he was even talking about Thierry Henry last season. . . the fact is, he knows nothing about the transfer market and always wants to spend big money on a small group of players. . . .even asking Newcastle to give Michael Owen £120,000 a week. . . then he has the cheek to complain when Tony Jimenez and Dennis Wise bought good players like Jonas Gutierrez, Xisco and Colocinni for very moderate prices. . . . he deserved the sack abeg.

Same with Alan Curbishley. He proved he wasn't capable of handling transfer matters . . . from mishandling quality players like Mascherano and Tevez and putting them on the bench to buying rubbish or injured players like Kieron Dyer, Nigel Quashie, Craig Bellamy, Boa Morte, Lucas Neil, Matthew Upson, you name it. . . . he completely wasted the clubs money. . . . . £6m for George McCartney is a very good price and he was stupid not to accept it so the club accepted it for him and bought Heita Illunga instead who is just as good as George McCartney.

doyin13:
I would have u knw that no less than S. Schwarz(I bet that's not his name. who cares, he sounds Jewish ) who wrote Freakonomics

has causally linked Roe v. Wade to the decline in the crime rate in New York.

Emphasis on Freakonomics I guess

Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner wrote Freakonomics. . . .

They also argued that swimming pools are more dangerous than guns statistically. . . . I do not see anyone arguing that they were pursuing a Republican agenda.

4 Play:
If you base your arguments on lies,it falls apart. Take your assertion that 48% of black men in New York are unemployed,that is a bold faced lie.

When the CSC measured the employment population ratio in New York City in 2003, they found that only 51.8 percent of African American men between 16 and 65 held jobs. That means that nearly half of all African American men did not have jobs. By comparison, 75.7 percent of White men in New York held jobs that year, meaning that fewer than one in four of them did not hold jobs.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_13_21/ai_n6169071


You still do not answer my assertion that those who could afford to travel to New York for abortions before Roe vs Wade did. Therefore Roe vs Wade only catered for the disadvantaged.

bawomolo:
i don't see this as an important issue though. roe vs wade would still stand

It is not an important issue. . . . the Republicans make it such, even though they know they will not/cannot change it. . .

4 Play:
You seem to want to discard the burden of proof of proving an assertion you made, the drain on public spending that prohibiting abortion brings. Here is the problem you have,unless you can show that on balance,the costs of having those babies outweigh the benefits they bring to society,your point is flawed.

Let's arguendo assume that 40% of unwanted babies will develop into career criminals,that will leave 60% who are generally law abiding citizens. You may have some increase in crime but you haven't shown that the costs outweigh the benefits.

Burden of proof lies with you. You are the one trying to change the law. I will give you a few facts, maybe, you can do the mathematical correlations yourself.

36% of abortions are African American.

57% of abortions are whites.

The rest are other ethnic minorities.

90% of abortions occur in Urban areas.

Unemployment is higher in Urban areas. For example, 48% of black men in new York are unemployed.

Rates of poverty are higher in urban areas.

Before Roe vs Wade, those who could afford to travel to New York for abortions did.

Therefore Roe vs Wade only provided abortion for the most disadvantaged mothers.

From all these correlations, without any mathematical calculation, I would argue that the reversal of Roe vs Wade (if we take away the no who could afford abortion in New York) would leave a population of unwanted babies, probably 90% of whom come from low income and low educated families in communities with socio-economic problems.

Go and check any sociology website to see the chances of unemployment and/or crime amongst people from such a demographic.

Take that percentage and multiply it by the cost of Welfare/Prison/School over a lifetime. Then factor in the cost of crime.

Now take the other percentage and multiply it by the average income tax payment per capita.

Now see if it balances out.

Whichever way, you lose.