₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
So, if I am anti-gay marriage and there is a call to cast a vote for or against it, I should not vote?

That is the difference between a common person like you and a leader. . . . you think if everyone votes with their heart, there will be peace?. . . . leadership is all about compromise. . . .you think South Africa was ready to end apartheid?. . . . most White South Africans still believed in it. . . . if they all had to vote with their heart, Mandela would still be in Robben Island.

4 Play:
There is no evidence that prohibiting abortion hinders a nation's economy and comparing Ireland with it's next door neighbor illustrates the point.

No. Ireland is the completely wrong test case for this assertion because other overwhelming factors contributed to Ireland's resurgence.

It is up to you to prove that keeping unwanted babies stimulates the economy, especially in a country with Social Welfare. Studies have shown that abortion lowers crime (which comes with its own cost). You have no scientific way of proving your assertions. Its just a theory.

4 Play:
The same penalties that apply in Ireland.

Life imprisonment?. . . .no doubt playing to the whims of the Irish Catholic Church. . . .I suppose you would like to implement Irelands policy on allowing gay marriages as well. . . .the fact is that the Irish Government is playing to its demographics (many gays in Ireland), not creating policy on its principles. . . . in Portugal it is 3 years for abortion. . . . so whats the difference?. . . . many Irish women get counselling as to abortion services in the UK anyway. . . . seems like Ireland are shifting their unwanted moral responsibilities onto the UK. . . . a half hearted approach if you ask me. . . . and one which is likely to change within the next 15 years. . . . rest assured, Ireland will make abortions legal. You can quote me on that. . . . . anyway, life imprisonment is an extremist view. . . .

4Play, do you agree with death penalty for abortion?

If not, how many years (or months) sentence would you give to a woman who aborts her baby?


I am still waiting o! You must answer this one today.

Bastage:
LOL. And you claim to be living in the UK. A country where single mothers are a dozen a dime. And where they cost the state a fortune. And you're telling me there's no evidence!!! If single mothers here weren't granted abortions the system would be totally bankrupt within a year. And get this: America is no different!!!

LMAO. I'm in the UK too, dude. Don't try to tell me that a problem doesn't exist when I see it every day!!!!

Tell him to go to Tottenham, Peckham, Brixton, any of these. . . .

4 Play:
You asked how Republicans are supposed to cope with unwanted babies given that they are supposed to increase public expenditure. What I have done is shown you that having strict laws on abortion,as Ireland does,doesn't lead what you have said.

It doesn't change the fact that it is a ridiculous comparison. You could have drawn any country out of the hat. I wonder why you didn't pick Nigeria as an example.   . Everybody knows the reason for Ireland's resurgence. You don't have to kid us with your propaganda. You took it too far this time man. . .  

4 Play:
This another problem you have. Copying and pasting without figuring out for yourself. If the writer's opinion is that Sec 6(a) is tantamount to a legalisation of abortion in my home state, it will amount to sheer idiocy to proclaim it to the public as a fact.

Yes, I figured out that it was a backdoor move to pass it into law for reasons of family planning. . . . still, as long as a woman can claim that it interferes with her individual rights, that makes it legal right?. . . . as a lawyer, you should know that British government passes all sorts of bills through the backdoor. . . .

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=167840.msg2761023#msg2761023 date=1220648560]Why then are you forcing your polarising belief on me? Why should you force me to accept abortion?[/quote]Who forced you to abort your baby? Do the current laws say you must abort your baby?. . . . if you want to keep your baby, you are free to do so. . . . . you are the one forcing your polarising belief on people. . . . infact, you want to kill people for carrying out abortion.

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=167840.msg2760817#msg2760817 date=1220645824]@Ibime,
So for political expediency, you will go against your conscience? besides, isn't the Govt meant to secure the right to life according to the declaration of independence? una do o.[/quote]For political expediency, alchohol prohibition was dropped.

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=167840.msg2760817#msg2760817 date=1220645824]Tell me, who has criminalised or intend to criminalise homosexuality?[/quote]Up till recently, many states criminalised homosexuality. . . . infact, abortion may have been legal before homosexuality. . . . but the world has moved on. . . .time to move on from this abortion argument now. . . .it is no longer an issue. . .

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=167840.msg2760817#msg2760817 date=1220645824]How about encouragin people to bear the responsibilities of their actions? The cost of taken care of the babies will be borne by the parents through special taxes.[/quote]Maybe in your utopian world. . . not everybody who has an abortion is from a conservative family like you and I. . . you think these women who have abortions can afford it in the first place?. . . .

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=167840.msg2760817#msg2760817 date=1220645824]The principle is very clear. No cruel and unusual punishment. If you take a life, your life should also be taken.[/quote]Really?. . . your views are extremist. . . . even before Roe and Wade, death sentence was not the punishment for abortion. . . . so why the bruhaha? . . . your 'life before liberty' argument means that you have backed yourself into a corner where the death sentence is the only punishment for abortion. . . .


4Play, do you agree with death penalty for abortion?

4 Play:
America will deal with the consequences of pro-life policies the same way Ireland has dealt with it. Ireland today enjoys a better standard of living than most European countries,including Britain,notwithstanding the presence of "unwanted babies".

Funny that you attribute most of Ireland's successes to the 'unwanted' babies blossoming. . . . that is the most ridiculous political correlation anyone has ever drawn. . . . the reason for Ireland's success is simply joining the EU and the inevitable economic kick that comes with that; cutting corporate tax; and immigration of high skilled workers, including returning Irish. . . .  not to mention goodwill from America. . . . you will find that a lot of microchip companies are based there now. . . . quite a few native Irish are still low educated and poor. . . .I suspect that is the demographic from which a lot of these abortions come from. . . .

I lived in a middle class neighbourhood in England and never heard the word abortion. . . . I moved to London and abortion amongst the lower classes was a common thing.

Infact, 1/3 of American abortions since Roe vs Wade have been African Americans. Need I tell you that the majority proportion of abortees are from lower classes with socio-economic problems. I doubt that these would be significant contributors to the economy. Infact, crime will increase.

4 Play:
Ibime, The Destroyer of Facts. No fact is an obstacle in making a point.

O-boy, I read it here:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200807160613.html

Please take it up with allafrica.com if you disagree.

In Anambra State , for instance, abortion has been legalized, in fragrant violation of the Criminal Code, under the deceptive euphemistic expression: 'Women's Reproductive Right". This is one bitter pill many Anambra citizens cannot swallow. But it is true: abortion is now legal in Anambra State . The law came into force on 17th March, 2005 when Professor Brian Adinma was the commissioner for Health, Anambra State . Section 6 (a) of the law states that "the view of the woman shall be taken into consideration for decisions: on the number, timing and spacing of the children " Prima facie, this phrase may sound laudable. But section 6 (a) is substantially similar to article 16(e) of the controversial Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW).

debosky:
Abortion IS on the election agenda unfortunately, having a woman who delivered a baby with Down's syndrome and is letting her teenager keep a pregnancy means it is inevitably on the agenda.

Secondly, as long as the Americans feel it is something that should be on the agenda, it will remain there - some people will NOT vote Obama because of his abortion stance, call it 'backward' or 'unenlightened' or regard them as behind Europe in that area, but it still matters in the US of A.

There are sufficient numbers of people who will vote with abortion views being a strong factor in where they lean, and politicians being responsive beings, will align themselves as such. The day you find people caring less about it, the same day it will cease to be a political issue.

No, I completely disagree. . . . it is in the interests of the Government to drop this political agenda. . . unfortunately, the Republicans keep bringing it up. . . . .do you think that a large percentage of people in Europe do not oppose abortion? . . . infact, do you think that many in America in the 1970's would not have liked to see the civil rights bill reversed? . . . . but in the interests of national harmony, it is best to drop all these political arguments as we do in Europe. . . . where you have 50% of a country agreeing with something and another 50% disagreeing, you are sitting on a political powderkeg which requires common sense on behalf of the political parties. , . .  if I ask you how many people in South Africa are opposed to abortion, you will tell me "more than 50%". . . . yet abortion is legal in SA and is not a political campaign issue. . . . even in Anambra State, abortion is legal. . . .I am sure 95% of Anambrans are anti-abortion. . . . but the other 5% are their relatives, cousins and sisters. . . . .I am sure they will complain, but sure enough, it is not a campaign issue.

[quote author=khai_khai link=topic=167840.msg2760709#msg2760709 date=1220644510]Yes Ibime please stop!!!

Your contrary views are really upsetting to some. [/quote]No contrary views here. . . . I am strongly anti-abortion. . . but if I was President, I can never criminalise it, so please allow me to put my hard nosed political hat on. . . .

I am strongly anti-homosexual, but I can never criminalise it if I was President of America. . . . do you see what I am getting at here?

You can add abortion to that list. . . unfortunately, when you pass certain freedoms like the Americans always have, you end up with an irreversibly morally decadent society. . . . it is impossible to curb such things without criminalising half of the population. . . . only a few decades ago, homosexuality was illegal but only a stupid President will make it illegal again. . . . same with abortion. . . . unless you want to put half of your population in prison.

The truth is that abortion is not and should not be high on the political agenda.

I am still waiting for the Republicans to tell me who would pay for all their unwanted babies since they are already unhappy with the amount of public spending.

Since they value all life equally, I am also waiting to hear what sentence should be passed to mothers who abort their babies. Should it be a life sentence like they would for the murder of a fully grown adult?

4 Play:
In reality,Roe v Wade represents the left's obsession with the issue.

This is a complete fallacy. The Republicans are way more obsessed with abortion than the Dems and they are the ones who always bring it to the political table. Many European governments policies mirror the Democratic parties policies and you will never see that abortion (or even National Security) is a talking point come election time. We don't buy that crap for one second.

4 Play:
If you recall,the decision in Roe v Wade effectively means that women have a constitutional right to abortion. No analysis of the constitution  can justify this. To smuggle such a "right" into the constitution is absurd,

Smuggle what. . . . something that is widely practiced in Europe?. . . . it wasn't smuggled in, it was written in after a long court case. . . . some may not agree with it but those who wrote it knew it was best for the country. . . . people were already doing it illegally anyway. . . . just like alchohol in the prohibition. . . . what is the point of fighting it and criminalising a large proportion of the population?

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=167840.msg2760513#msg2760513 date=1220641243]So in your understanding of public service, you will choose what is best for your personal life but promotes second best for your society?[/quote]Really?. . . .and who would pay for all these unwanted babies. . . . certainly not the Republicans!

We haven't even talked about the inevitable correlation between abortion and crime. . . .go and read Freakonomics where the author show that the fall in crime in the 1990's was due to the Roe vs Wade judgement. . . . by the way, the authors were undertaking economic research, not political. . . .before you accuse them of being Democrats. I know your usual riposte.

So which is better for society?

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=167840.msg2760513#msg2760513 date=1220641243]This is not about religious belief, but about the constituion. Have you read Thomas Jefferson's Declaration of Independence? It states thus in part: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men [/quote]As they say, all life is equal but some are more equal than others?

If the Republicans value the life of these foetus' so much, are they willing to guarantee a mandatory life sentence for any woman who illegally carries out an abortion? . . . let us see how much they value these babies lives.

Even after this Declaration of Independence was written, slaves, even pregnant slaves infact, were still being killed with no recompense to justice. . . . so this right to life is not the unquestionable dogma you believe it is.


[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=167840.msg2760513#msg2760513 date=1220641243]R v Wade may still stand, but Bush has taken cioncrete steps towards overturning it by his choice of Justices to the Supreme Court. You obviously have no clue what the Conservatives are up to. Let's just leave it at that for now.[/quote]Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George Bush I, George Bush II. . . . how many years is that altogether?. . . and still they can't overturn it. . . . 100 years from now, it will still be the same story. . . . I am still waiting. . . . all they will do is pay lip service to it, no concrete steps. . . . they know the Government cannot afford it.

Abeg leave the dance jare. . . surely, if i lived in Swaziland, I will be buying ticket to the event every year.

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=167840.msg2760339#msg2760339 date=1220638425]@darfur,
You don't really want to talk about hypicrisy do you. You don't want to talk about Obama's supposedly personal pro-life stance, but pro-choice stance on policy. You sure this is the conversation you want to have?[/quote]This is the most idiotic statement you have ever made on here.

Just like Obama, I have a personal pro-life stance but for Government, I have a pro-choice stance. The current laws do not stop me from practicing my pro-life stance. If my girl is pregnant, I will keep the baby, whether planned or not. However, not everyone has the religious beliefs I do. Should I force them to keep unwanted pregnancies? 

Please, Roe vs Wade is not a central political talking point. . . . only in a neanderthal country like America is it high on the agenda. . . . George Bush has been in power for 8 years, yet Roe vs Wade still stands. . . . so let people vote on what they can change, not what they cannot change. . . .it is very low on the agenda, although the Republicans try to make out that it is a central issue so they can garner Christian votes. . . . the truth is, even if they had the power to change it, they wouldnt - because they are already concerned about public spending, talkless of all the millions of unwanted babies the state would have to care for, not to mention the inevitable rise in crime 20 years down the line.

darfur:
all the stuff about msnbc being pro obama, do you guys watch[i] morning joe[/i]?

from 6.00am - 9.00 am daily (ET) anchored by joe scarborough, a defeated republican. always anti obama. do you guys watch it?

only keith and rachel are core obama fans in msnbc.

Republicans always accuse any channel outside of FOX of being left-leaning. If you are in the centre of American politics, they still call you left leaning. They are just mad because NBC always expose FOX's ties to the Republicans. . . . the fact is that there is no left leaning channel in America to the extent that FOX is right-leaning. . . .

nuzo:
Ibime come and see ooo. . . . . . its now confirmed that Facebook is now part of the conspiracy to side track the minority groups in Nigeria, only that this time; the Housas and fulanis are not involved. Its now WABIA instead of WAZOBIA.

lol. . . . you dey craze!

nuzo:
Simple fact is that other tribes were not given enough quota in Facebook.

lol. . . . you dey craze x 2.



Anyway, RichyBlack, WTF is this about?

RichyBlacK:
So, the question now becomes how do we explain the greater number of people identifying/associating themselves with "Igbo" than with "Yoruba" in the largest social networking site on the planet?

Yorubas are probably less tribal. . . . we discussed in the culture thread why Yorubas do not go back to their village for Christmas and we saw that many Yorubas do not identify too much with their village or town, but rather the city they live in.

Kobojunkie:
That only started after the outcry from the public on how the media should not take sides. I have a pro-Obama friend who quit CNN because he felt the network was pushing it too far with it's left leaning logic as pertains the election. He lives in the UK, and confessed that that disturbed him quit a bit.

What nonsense! We have been watching CNN since the 1980's in Nigeria. CNN is known as THE American channel. BBC even takes live feeds from ABC, NBC and CNN. . . . never from FOX! FOX is so far off, they don't even count anywhere outside America. CNN is smack bang in the centre of American politics. Only a FOX watcher like yourself would accuse CNN of bias.

[quote author=khai_khai link=topic=167840.msg2760042#msg2760042 date=1220633715]Against Big Oil, but "drill baby drill!!". Am I missing something here. Na small oil wan do the drilling abi?[/quote]lol

Again, we see the Republicans being sidetracked by inconsequential issues such as abortion, right to bear arms, clinging to religion debate, national security etc. . . . all these are redneck issues that have nothing to do with politics. . . . like I told 4Play the other day, I can never support Republicans because they play to their small town, redneck, pseudo-racist base too much. . . . . whatever argument the Republicans have to bring on big/small government, tax cuts, economic stimulation is undermined by these racial, religious and bigoted political machinations. . . . .do Americans realise that they are an anomaly in the civilised World?. . . . certainly, no European country fights elections on these neanderthal arguments. . . . infact, American politics is backward. . . . . it is noticable that European TV networks take live feeds from ABC, NBC, CNN. . . . but never from FOX News. . . . this proves how outdated the small town Republican mentality is.

Good speech by McCain. Very moderate, very conciliatory and he even acknowledged that hurtful barbs will be thrown during the campaign - but that is the nature of the game.

Palin's speech on the other hand was a pathetic joke. The speech was simply "Please like me, I have small town, mentality". Does she think that anyone outside USA gives a phock about her small town mentality? I do not see World leaders being able to associate or relate to her views.

People like Tayo-D who didn't know much about Palin before this VP ticket are suddenly vouching for her character like they have known her all their life. 5 days is a bit short to know someone. . . . . this is proof that mothaphockas are making decisions based on party politics. . . .

The Experience debate: McCain is experienced and well respected, no doubt. However, if the Republicans were that concerned about experience, they should have chosen him over George Bush in 2000. Should we expect that the man the Republicans have constantly overlooked for eons is now suddenly the best man to take America forward? If he is the man now, he was the man in 2000, yet you submitted George Bush to the nation. Therefore, your current submission is rejected!  

On top of that, we are missing a fundamental issue: Who has more leverage on the International stage? McCain came to Europe quietly and left quietly - we didn't even know he was here. Infact, they would have had to hire a crowd if he wanted to give a speech. Obama came and politicians were fighting themselves over who is going to hold a press call with him. Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and David Cameron were literally falling over themselves to make sure that he would come and see them first. E remain small, they would have allowed him to give a speech on the steps of Downing Street. It was the same in France with Nicola Sarkozy. In Germany, he spoke to multitudes. People are invigorated by him. He already has positive credit even before he enters any diplomatic situation, anywhere in the world. John McCain has negative credit, both in Europe, the Middle East and Africa.


Drill baby Drill!

RichyBlacK:
Ibime,

First thing first, the NCNC was not a party "for the East". Zik and Macaulay were the prime movers in establishing the NCNC, and the party had a national outlook, unlike the Action Group, which was a de facto Yoruba party. No credible historian would label the NCNC a party "for the East". Yep, Zik was the party's president at the end; however Herbert Macaulay was the party's first president. Make we leave this matta for now.

As of 1960, NCNC was the party of the east, no debate. As of 1960, most Yoruba supporters had migrated to AG. That is unquestionable.

RichyBlacK:
The last time Nigeria practiced anything close to merit was in the 50s and 60s, and a particular ethnic group was hated for its perceived dominance of the public sector. The point is that a merit-based system is likely to generate very negative sentiments.

I don't know any particular ethnic group which was dominating the public sector in the 50's and 60's. Maybe you care to elaborate. I know that one particular group was excluded from the public sector and had to fill their quota by joining the military - but if you are suggesting that one particular group dominated the public sector, you are particularly wrong.


Yes, I am suggesting employment on merit.

Queenisha:
That's not true.
Igbos believe that your village is your ultimate home so no matter where they are, Christmas is not the same when you don't spend it in the village.
We take pride in our villages
We build our most gorgeous homes in our villages even if you have to spend just 2 weeks in a year there
We go there to conduct our traditional and sometimes church weddings,anniversaries and ultimately our funerals.
My parents live in a city,I was born in a city but the biggest and most gorgeous house they have,is in the village.
An Igbo man without a home in his village is not yet a man.
You can move to Lagos,Onitsha and Ijebuode.
If you have a home in Lagos,you are expected to build your real home in your village.
We take pride in our place of origin.
Even when our folks have passed away or moved to anywhere else,our villages remain a place of pride
We don't do "town marriages"
any Igbo man that comes to marry someone,when the traditional things set off,everyone migrates to the village
not Aba or Enugu where the woman and her folks may be residing.
They move down home to Umuokonko Isiekenesi
straight to her father's compound
That is the real home
Where she comes from,where her father,grandfather and great grand come from
That is Igbo culture
And we are very very proud of this.

can't wait to go to my village,my mothers and my hubby's

That is very true for Ijaws also. Although we do not have to build our best house in the village sha. I cannot remember any school holiday when I didn't go home to my beloved Ogan-ama. Be it Easter, Summer or Christmas, even midterm holidays.

Ibime:
Here is a quick example of what I am saying. OBJ made 39 cabinet appointments of which 33 were from WAZOBIA and only 6 went to other ethnic minorities (one of which was Danjuma, a defacto WAZOBIA). That means 85% of OBJ's cabinet appointees were WAZOBIA (87% if you include Danjuma). And OBJ is probably one of the most inclusive presidents we have had in Naija.

doyin13:
I thot the appointments were on a state by state basis, with each state having at least two representatives

Infact of the 6 non-WAZOBIA cabinet appointments, 3 were Ijaw. Again, this goes to show that Nigeria is not interested in doing the best job, but in placating those with political influence. The 3 Ijaws chosen just goes to show the increasing influence of Ijaws in National politics. Infact, to prove that the appointments were not in the best interests of the nation, one of the Ijaws was Abiye Sekibo, a man hated in Rivers State and the man who sponsored Tom Ateke. He is currently on exile from Rivers State and cannot return for fear of his life. The other three non-WAZOBIA's in the cabinet were a lady from Plateau (I forget her name), Theophilus Danjuma and Tony Anenih, two heavyweights in the Nigerian political scene.

Here is a quick example of what I am saying. OBJ made 39 cabinet appointments of which 33 were from WAZOBIA and only 6 went to other ethnic minorities (one of which was Danjuma, a defacto WAZOBIA). That means 85% of OBJ's cabinet appointees were WAZOBIA (87% if you include Danjuma). And OBJ is probably one of the most inclusive presidents we have had in Naija.

bawomolo:
why do nigerians love to play the blame game

No blame game here mate. . . . just calling for a fairer system based on peoples abilities. . . if we even have to implement positive discrimination for the North so they can catch up, no problem. . . . but this WAZOBIA thing will be the death of Naija if it continues.

RichyBlacK:
To term this form of ethnic bigotry WAZOBIA summarily implicates Ndi Igbo as well as the Hausas.

This is just an example. . . . the same is practiced across the board. The question is not whether it is tribalistic, the question is that Nigerian political system is designed only with consideration for the three major tribes. In 1960, the coalition Government was made from 3 parties, ANP for the North, AC for the West and NCNC (correct me!) for the East. Therefore the coalition Government had no incentive to include the ethnic minorities. . . . and the same has continued since then. Nigeria has long since believed that if you share out positions between the Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo, everything will be alright. Not remembering that the other minorities make up 40% of the population. . . . infact, some Nigerians do not know that there are many non-WAZOBIA people in Nigeria. . . . therefore, if they see an even split between WAZOBIA, they think they have a government of National Unity. . . . this is not the case as far as the ethnic minorities are concerned. . . .infact, it is a political collusion against them.

On a private level, there is definitely tribalism. . , Hausa man hires his brother, ditto Yoruba and Igbo man, marginalising all other tribes in Nigeria. . . . soon we find that this kind of tribal politiking is no longer sustainable because those who have no stake will disrupt the system, as we see in TIV and Niger-Delta today.

RichyBlacK:
"Afterall, 40% of Nigerians are neither Hausa, Igbo or Yoruba."

Can you provide any source or argument for the above assertion?

According to Wikipedia, Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo make up 68% of Nigeria.

I took away 8% (census adjustment for the North) to give a fairer reflection at 60%.

I have always noticed that federal character is not really federal character but the splitting of the national cake into 3 pies, Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba. Check any ministerial list that comes out - You will see 90% WAZOBIA with the rest of the country fighting for the remaining 10%. It is the same from federal to private level. Isn't it time to ditch this unjust system and recognise people according to their abilities? Afterall, 40% of Nigerians are neither Hausa, Igbo or Yoruba.


Anyway, I read this on article on the net that highlighted the problem:


http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2008/aug/252.html


On August 19, 2008, I got a message from my wife, who is Yoruba, that there was a "Jobs in Nigeria Exhibition" (JINE) in Atlanta from August 19 to 20, and after that, they would be moving to Houston. JINE was basically looking for Nigerian expatriates to take to Nigeria, and I have been hearing that Banks and Oil companies usually give our expatriates better pay, car with a driver, and descent housing, just to make life comfortable after returning to Nigeria from an advanced country. I did not give my boss enough notice, and I did not want to go for the second day of the exhibition because Nigerians (JINE) might just decide that the first day was good enough and will not honor the next day as advertised on the website. With a half-hearted approval from my boss, I left for the job fair. I did not have a suit on and my house was on the other side of town, so I decided to go there just to have a feel of things. If I had to go put on a suit, if they were long lines of people, if they were many companies, then I would have to call my boss and inform her that I was taking the rest of the day off. When I got there, I saw some with suits and others without. Obviously, the later just found out that day like I did too.


I walked in, turned in my resume, and took a seat. There were only two companies, UBA and Assets Resources Management. There were also old friends at the place, so we talked a little. Many were there for about two hours waiting for their turn to be interviewed by both companies and some by a second company. About 15 minutes after I enter, a man from the UBA table approached me, greeted me, introduced himself, and asked the origin of my name. I told him it was from Edo State. He then joked with me by saying "Omo no Oba", and we both laughed. About another 10 minutes later, a man by the name of Shola Ajani, who appeared to be the coordinator of JINE came in and called my name. Unlike others who were asked to follow JINE representatives to the next room for the interview, Mr. Ajani called my name but came to sit beside me. In a low tone, he told me that my resume was great, but that they were only interviewing accounting and finance people for Lagos, and he promised to keep my resume in their database for other companies who needed IT and business development people. He was actually a very nice guy and he wrote his information on my paper because he was out of business cards.


On my way out, I stopped by to say goodbye to my Yoruba friends and head back to work. It was then that I got the shock of my life in the USA. My friends were surprised that I was leaving just after 30 minutes of entrance. I explained to them that Mr. Ajani of JINE just told me that there were here for accounting and finance people. It was then that I found out that Kunle, who also had IT background, was waiting for his second interview, and the Yoruba wife of my Yoruba soccer teammate, who also was IT, was told to wait for her interview. I did not make a big deal about it because my spirit already rejected the interview. Even if I fought them to get interviewed, what make me think that they will even contact me later? I then told my Yoruba friends that maybe it was a WAZOBIA thing, and they laughed. They did not laugh to put me down, they laughed because it is a normal Nigerian practice and tradition. The other woman with them even said, maybe they are only looking for Yorubas (it was a friendly, acceptable, and innocent statement). I genuinely wished my friends the very best in their interviews and I left. As I was leaving, even one of my former pastors, who is also Yoruba, was surprised to see me leaving, but I only told her what Mr. Ajani told me. I called my Yoruba wife as I was leaving the building from my cell, and she was so angry that she promised to go there the next day to start World War III. I had to beg her to let it be, but reminded her that this is the WAZOBIA system that has crippled Nigeria from becoming the economic and political giant it is supposed to be in the global community. For years, I have written and talked to my Yoruba friends, wife, and in-laws about the evil of WAZOBIA on Nigeria, but they usually dismissed it out of ignorance. Now, many are turning around because of this experience and what they have seen from the Olympics and the Nigerian soccer house.


Does Nigeria want expatriates or not? If they do, does it have to be mainly WAZOBIA for just Lagos and maybe for all the branches in Nigeria? After all our rich pre-colonial culture and everlasting folktales of putting quality over quantity and wisdom before strength, WAZOBIA still extended its evil hand into the most advanced, freest, and most civilized country in the world to promote TRIBALISM in the name of expatriates. Is this not a contradiction? The expatriates that are suppose to be demolishing WAZOBIA and TRIBALISM based on the power of diversity that makes advanced nations great are now being recruited by the ONLY EVIL that has relegated Nigeria to the background - WAZOBIA. The United States in its advancement and sophistication have realized that change is necessary for progress. They are even demanding that it is time to have a Black/African (Barack Obama) and a woman (Hillary Clinton) as the leader of the free world, but Nigeria is still practicing WAZOBIA, the illegitimate child of colonization and the Devil itself, on American soil. The children of WAZOBIA must speak against and kill WAZOBIA, or the Niger-Delta issue will ultimately be the foundation that will split us into many countries. I am assuming that the descendants of WAZOBIA even care.

(WAZOBIA does not necessary mean Yoruba, Hausa, or Igbo; it is simply a justified EVIL system of discrimination in Nigeria that favors them against the genuine progress, happiness, and freedom of the Nigerian nation at the expense of the Southerners - Niger-Delta, who produce 90% of Nigeria's revenue)

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[center]Robinho Not Worth €40m - Kenyon[/center]

Chelsea’s chief executive Peter Kenyon has reportedly revealed that they were never going to land Robinho because the club does not believe he is worth the amount of money the Spanish giants were asking for.

Chelsea’s intense negotiations with Real Madrid for Robinho in the last few weeks of the transfer market failed to bear any fruit when Manchester City made a last minute swoop and captured the Brazilian for an upfront fee of €40 million.

Now, according to Spanish sports journal Marca, it has been revealed that Robinho was never going to head to Stamford Bridge, based on those merry-go-round talks between the two clubs.

When analysing the events that transpired on the final day of the transfer market, Peter Kenyon, the man Chelsea entrusted to orchestrate the move, reportedly admitted that “Robinho is not worth €40 million” and that “we were never going to arrive at that number”.

Real Madrid president Ramón Calderón had at one stage insisted Robinho is free to leave the Santiago Bernabéu, provided any potential buyers can meet his asking price of €40 million.

Chelsea only allegedly went as high as €37 million, an offer which was blatantly shot down by the Madrid hierarchy. Manchester City, backed by their new Abu Dhabi-based investors/owners, eventually swooped in out of nowhere for the 24 year old by offering €40 million upfront plus another €2 million based on the player’s performances.

KS Leong

Well, 95% of National Enquirers' allegations are baseless.

Still, politicians should stop claiming religious piety. We all remember the allegations of gay Republican senators a few months back.

The son-in-law to be claims to 'redneck and proud' - are you surprised that he may be a racist?

I noticed that Yorubas do not visit their villages as often as Ibo's or Ijaws. Is there any reason?

If the guy is more qualified than his wife, why not?

Nice one Goldlink.

hmmmmm . . . . . O'Reilly is not to be messed with. . . .that guy can trip people up easily. . . if I was Obama, I would steer well clear of FOX News. . . . they don't even sound like a News Network. . . everytime I watch FOX, I feel I am watching Tabloid TV. . . .if CNN and NBC are biased toward the democrats, at least CNN and NBC are respected Worldwide as fair and concise news channels , whilst FOX News is viewed as a[b] joke[/b]. Their biased propaganda is obvious to any viewer.

Redneck Republican mentality.