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Kilishihunter:
Well the little "luck" he got made him to be the only man in history (yet) to be the MOTM in a UCL, Euros and World cup final

MOTM in a Euros final where his team scored 4 goals and he didn't have a single GA while Xavi with two assists was overlooked.

That's the same tournament that made Capaldi say the below:

Capaldi:
A winger produced 0 goal and just 1 assist yet was proclaimed Man of the tournament. Numerous times he was smuggled into Uefa and fifa team of the year is shocking as well. I have never seen any player do so little yet get so much praise and accolades.

Well I can't argue with Gods grace.

donstan18:
In the spirit of G/A

Can we agree that Ozil >>> Inesta and Xavi?

Take Iniesta forward since Xavi never once claimed to be an AM in his life.

FOMC meeting tomorrow. Whales might jump out soon and wait for the meeting summary

donstan18:
If it’s by singling out a season or calendar year to drive agendas, then Modrić a midfielder you love shouldn’t be regarded for making worst signing and flop of the year.

That Modric flopped his first season is not disputed. But I bet he didn't have zero GA though.

I like Iniesta no doubt but he's been the luckiest footballer in history IMO. Never has one player received so much providence for so little.

And it's not a single season. Defenders who come up for corners are beating chest with him.

teeshet:
Why is no big club looking at aleksandr mitrovic of fulham despite his prolific goalscoring record?

He's flopped twice in EPL with Fulham and once with Newcastle

donstan18:
So INESTA is a carry along midfielder?

Omo!!

Over hundred league goals scored in this calendar year below, not one single GA for Iniesta. Help me spell CARRYALONG

donstan18:
Is Kovacic a carry-along?

Will you consider him a carry along Chelsea midfielder?

A defensive hustler can't be a carryalong

An AM whose team will score over 100 league goals and he didn't get one GA inside is the King of Carryalong

donstan18:
Do you fancy Kovacic?

I do. Same way I fancy Iniesta, but not to compare him with killers

I looked back over Xavis career and only once from 2008 to 2014 did his midfield lose a possession battle - slightly against Madrid one time.

Please die Jogginghoe comparison that will be dominated once every 4 or 5 games.

donstan18:


It’s either you like Xavi-Inesta or you don’t like them, you can’t like one and slander one.

Both complimented each other, they both needed each other to hit the level they did.

One controls, one spices it with offensive drives.

Xavi without Inesta is “CM version of Jorginho”, receiving pass and giving back while stagnant in a place.

Inesta without Xavi is Kovacic, driving around doing nothing. Just footwork and insha Allah.

Hahaha

The controller is not in doubt.

The offensive driver is very much in doubt. Driving forward with poverty output.

donstan18:
Drop us one Xavi’s unforgettable clutch moment. Just one.

Assist in Euro 2008 final vs Germany
Two assists in Euro 2012 final vs Italy
Assist in World Cup 2010 semi vs Germany

These are what matter, not grabbing camera like Lars Ricken or Eder after being carried along all tournament

donstan18:
So Barcelona and Spain were leading 3:0 in these games?

2 games only.

No better than Xavis 4 decisive contributions for Spain in single goal knockout and final games

donstan18:
Simply put; you’re saying Xavi has more football clutch moments than Inesta?

Like Xavi’s clutch moments will be remembered than Inesta’s??

Like, INESTA??

He has more game winning moments, not assisting one goal when 3 goals are scored. You busy referencing one Iniesta assist in a 5-1 aggregate scoreline against PSG, or a 3-1 win or 2-0 win in UCL final. Those are not game winning. This is game winning

2008 Euro final vs Germany 1-0, Xavi assist
2010 WC semi vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist,
2010 WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist.
2010 WC 2nd round vs Paraguay, 1-0, xavi assist

donstan18:
Lol. Inesta last minute goal against Chelsea in 2009 and World Cup extra time winning goal in 2010 will always, always and always be regarded higher than these stuffs you listed.

If you want to know what clutch means when it comes to assist, go and watch Inesta assist to Neyma against PSG in 2015.

There are levels to this clutch of a thing nh. Let’s be honest.

Which one be assist against Paraguay nh.

Iniesta only shows when Barca are utterly dominant producing the odd assist out of three goals scored. Xavi does not need to statpad in a 2 goal comfortable scoreline when Messi and co already have the game in hand.

These are the moments that count from 2nd round to semi, producing the single decisive stat in a Spain team that does not score goals unlike Messi's Barcelona, while Iniesta is doing vibes

2010 WC semi vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist,
2010 WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist.
2010 WC 2nd round vs Paraguay, 1-0, xavi assist

donstan18:
Individual awards, clutch moments, solo achievements without each other.

Inesta >>> Xavi

So there’s no way you’ll say Xavi carried Inesta, it’s not even possible. Never!!

Inesta is even more offensive than Xavi, without him Xavi will be a “CM version of Jorginho” just receiving pass and giving it out without progressing and driving the ball offensively.

These are the clutch moments in Spain's three tournament victories:

Xavi:

7 goals and assists in Spain knockout matches including 3 assists in finals.

2008 Euro final vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist,
2012 Euro final vs Italy 4-0, 2 xavi assists,
2010 WC semi vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist,
2010 WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist.
2010 WC 2nd round vs Paraguay, 1-0, xavi assist


Iniesta:

Assist against Russia in 3-0 win in Euro 2008
1 World Cup final goal after being carried along all tournament with no contribution.


Xavi baked the cake (possession) and still iced it (GA) while Iniesta was doing vibes

popizaino:
Tell us what Madrid won with 80 assists of ozil as oppose to that of modric who doesnt even have half of that ?

Ozil cannot play in a 4-3-3 and that's a structural problem for his teams. Lampard is a 4-3-3 midfielder who would slot in that Barca 4-3-3 and show that Iniesta is just fooling you with vibes. Iniesta was never responsible for controlling but creating. All the controlling was done by Xavi and Busquet to a lesser extent. Xavi makes 100 passes, Busquet makes 80 and Iniesta only 60. Midfield control never lost a single percentage when Keita came in. His job was to create and be productive and he failed woefully, but people who don't understand where midfield control comes from will create excuses that his job is to control, not to create. Control always comes from the two deepest midfielders primarily. Any AM telling you he is controlling is telling porkies. Bayern does not need Muller to control games. Muller does what he supposed to do, not lying that he's helping to "control midfield" with only 60 passes

donstan18:
Inesta won UCL and dominated the midfield in 2015. This was actually achieved without Xavi.

I also think Inesta won a lot of individual awards than Xavi, you can correct me if I’m wrong.

Question is, what and what did Xavi win without Inesta?

I’ll still stand that they are both class when paired together, they can’t function properly without each other, if anyone amongst them did it, it’s Inesta.

If anyone amongst the two had clutch moments, it’s still Inesta.

They did not dominate midfield in 2015. This is revisionism.

2015 was built on MSN direct football not the usual Barca way

Xavi set the template for Spain and Barca in 2008 Euros and was by far the POTT with Iniesta as a carryalong. That was the start of the extreme midfield dominance era. Xavi started it and ended it.

popizaino:
If assist and goals were all that matters in football for a midfielders then i wonder how many UCL real Madrid won when they prioritised starting 0zil ahead of modric ?

Let Iniesta come to Chelsea, let's see how we will eat his zero goals and assist.

Nigga is just a Spanish Kovacic.

No Messi to score 60 goals plus here.

popizaino:
Ibime we have been through this before and I think have ended the discussion when I asked you why Barcelona in their prime lost to inter Milan in the semifinals in 2010 without Andres iniesta given the fact that they won in a year before and after which he played in?

Barcelona in their prime also lost to Chelsea so you are saying nothing.

You ain't saying nothing as long as Barca dominated Inter midfield to stupor without Iniesta, they just didn't score the last goal needed

Just goes to show Xavi never needed Iniesta to dominate any midfield.

For Spain, Iniesta played wing and the midfield domination from Xavi was the same.

But the moment Xavi got old and later left, Barca midfield domination turned to rubble

popizaino:
Let me tell you the biggest mystery............it is eulogizing Frank Lampard and berating Andres Lujan Iniesta. This act is worse than felony. In fact if wishes were horses I would have love to have them arrested.

I take an attacking midfielder that gave me 47 GA in a season than one with zero GA in the league in a calendar year.

Just thank God for carryalong. If Lampard accepted Barca offer in mid-2000s, they will be hailing him best thing since sliced bread in Catalunya by the time his productivity is added to Messi and co to dominate every tournament.

Bring Iniesta to Chelsea with his zero GA and you will chase him with sticks like Willian

Put Joe Cole on his right and Malouda on his left and Chelsea will be dragging league position with Bolton

Unproductive Willian, 64 goals in 8 years in England. Productive Iniesta, 57 goals in 16 years in Spain.

popizaino:
What do you have to prove this ?

Their decline and loss of possession domination after Xavi

The passing stats during Xavi time compared to after Xavi

The passing stats of Xavi compared to Iniesta

The fact Xavi assisted in almost all of Spain's major knockout games in the International tournaments (which were almost all decided by a single goal) while Iniesta was doing vibes

Capaldi:
I have never seen a player do so little yet get so much praise and individual accolades like iniesta. How he won Euros 2012 player of the tournament and other accolades will always be a mystery.

You've started making a lot of sense recently

Xavi is the be-all and end-all of that midfield trio. The others are just lucky to share midfield with him.

Russia don't even try to.make their own propaganda remotely believable

EmmanuelScott1:
Numero Uno
Goat

And little or no penalties involved

basilico:
Jealous because my kids are smart ?

basilico:
My kids are past puberty The era of couples kissing on TV when you switch channels is long gone.Nobody talks then in those moments when it happens.
Unpalatable is watching same sex couples kiss.
I used exchange saliva to denote tongue to tongue kiss in a derogatory manner.

Your kids are past puberty and cannot flick Netflix from their own devices? They have to get you drunk like father Noah in order to hijack your fingerprints to open their own TV? Pharoah, let the people go.

basilico:
Stop soiling the thread .

Kids today are very sharp. was using fingerprint to unlock phone. Kid would pick the phone when I'm snoozing, run my left fore finger thru the scanner and unlock the phone.

Sounds like you sleep after drinking to stupor

Havertz10:
https://www.nairaland.com/7105542/four-die-others-injured-third

When I see articles like this, I wonder the common variable, people often accuse people that speed of causing accidents, I drive with speed alot and I have only had 1 major incident and it wasn't even my fault, but everyone that knows me assumes that it was mine despite my explanations simply because I drive with speed

I usually wonder the appropriate speed or method, cause it's not news that traffic lights and speed guidelines aka speed limits are bullshit

Did some research found a few suggestions but none worked, some even aided fuel conservation, but none worked for me

I think its a personal thing, depending on how much information your mind can process, F1 drivers aren't aliens, they just have better situational awareness, and can easily make micro sec decisions better than the next person, if you can graft out plots and paths on the road, factoring all the variables, you can drive fast as you can handle and you will rearly have issues, if not, be the old man on the road and save yourself the heartache

Also some men enjoy, and I shamefully do, engaging in races with other drivers on the highway, particularly when it comes to overtaking, if you know that you don't have the ability, allow the person go, trying to prove yourself to someone you don't know for absolutely no reason but testosterone trips is not worth your life

There is no shame in driving slow, it's better than killing a human being, so many accidents suffer from the same flaw, poor reasoning.

Speed kills but slow driving also causes a lot of non-fatal accidents. The amount of times I've nearly bumped into the back of someone because they are driving too slow and I took my eye off the road. Worst is those guys that brake at Yellow traffic lights while I'm trying to accelerate through it, nearly bashing them in the back. Slow drivers should be banned from the roads too.

BasedUsername:
Netflix lost subscribers because they couldn't keep re-runs of fan-favourite content on their platform, and couldn't produce high quality, long-running original content. Their series either start off as duds or immediately drop in quality after a season or two because they are more interested in pushing an agenda than entertaining you.

Netflix is only really good for foreign language shows.

I agree that their follow on shows have been poor quality. That's due to time pressure, rushing out the next hit and spreading funds too thin

As for movies being woke, filmmaking has never been a conservative sport. Nobody pays to watch an accountant pay taxes all his life, never cheat on his wife and die at 80 years old. They pay to see something different whether that's action, or whether it's a human struggle.

Exonerate1:
Actively wanting the team you support to lose makes you a "true fan" these days.

Shut up. Which team were Everton playing when you made the below comment last week. More like actively wanting your club legend to relegate and disguising under you don't want Chelsea to lose. Chelsea fan who hates Lampard, Kante, Chilwell but loves Kepa, Chris, Alonso and Jogginghoe. Pandemic really brought a lot of nonsense to this thread.

GoddyOra:
Using the WildCard for GW35 ahead of DGW36 (so that you can also use BB for 15 players with 2 fixtures) was a popular and smart tactics. I am sure he knows what he is doing.

PS: you might still beat me despite my BB cos I have single fixtures players (Man Utd and Burnley) in my team.

You just dey whine Timbros. You will drop wildcard on his head.

timbros:
If I lose to Sod this GW (which looks more than likely), I might drop in the table.

Na iykmora I wan meet o

Nah, you facing Goddy Ora cos the man behind you also lost so you will finish 3rd and face 6th. Iykmora will face Common Cents

basilico:
OK. I was among those who cut off Netflix in December .All the series muh kids were watching had a lot of LBGTQ themes.
My decision to terminate 12$ month family account had alot do with the woke content and not Russia sanctions.

I only use Netflix when NARCOS release new season. It's my sister and her family using my account mostly.

I've also just seen that their Direct Debit went from £12 to £14 last year so they will be having price elasticity of demand issues too. Also their content is not exhaustive, you can go through films or series that interest you in one year.

But most important to what's happening to their price is how a speculative bubble corrects. Netflix only have to lose 10% of their income for the stockmarket to flatten their price by 50% or more. Same will happen to any tech company that falls behind expectations in this current environment where speculative money is being unwound.

basilico:
You are correct that I don't dispute.Im not an expert on stock markets .

But go woke go broke is also an accelerant to some of the stock losses like Netflix, Disney and a whole lot of others.


This conservative website has list of companies that are woke very similar to budaatum list of companies whose stocks have tanked

https://thebluestateconservative.com/2021/01/20/12-woke-companies-to-avoid/


Well I assume you are wired not to see any co+relationship maybe you will blame China.


Similar to Biden stopping a pipeline and limited federal exploration of oil. When oil prices go up he blames Putin.

Netflix tanked because of massive fall in subscribers post pandemic as people came out of lockdown and some moved to Disney+. Also lost 700,000 subscribers in Russia with the sanctions.

Netflix has had woke content for years and their subscriber base increased exponentially. Netflix actually has all content. They simply have seen Disney eat into market share and their pandemic bonanza is over.