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gensteejay:
I will do my own findings and reach my conclusions based on evidence I can gather.

My current stance is anything is possible, depending on available evidence in support of any of the claims.

You cannot do any research and come to any conclusion cos you are not a virologist or microbiologist

What you want to do is satisfy your conspiratorial mind which first seeks for motive rather than science, and that is quite disappointing for someone who trumpets the supremacy of science. Eg in this case, a conspiracy theorist will first ask what Bill Gates motive is, and is ready to dismiss any science that gets in the way of that conspiracy theory.

A Scientific mind already knows why Bill Gates and Govts round the world want vaccines, which is for the protection of the public through immunity whilst a Conspiracy theorist first establishes that Bill Gates wants to microchip and control the public, and builds his conspiracy from that basis.

To follow up that line of thinking the conspiracy theorist will want to prove that (a.) Vaccines have no efficacy and (b.) it is man made so Bill Gates can use it as an excuse to microchip the public

For example, below is you questioning the efficacy of vaccines because that will ruin your conspiracy

gensteejay:
Some conspiracy claims are worth checking out, especially as regards the efficacy of vaccines in preventing diseases generally.

A scientist respects other scientists knowing that vaccines are not just cooked up in a lab to satisfy someone's motive but most go through rigorous clinical trials on hundreds of thousands of subjects in a double blinded study, according to International standards.

But no, you will do your own research and dismiss what does not fit the conspiratorial path that your excited brain cells are leading toward.


If you want to grow in this life, focus your energy on what adds value to your life, and put away these silly conspiracy way of thinking that adds nothing to your health, wealth or wellbeing.

Even now, to show your absolute doggedness toward following your conspiratory imagination, and your total disregard for scientific fact, you are now keenly following someone who wants to tell you the virus is made in a lab, despite scientific consensus agreeing that the structure of the virus makes it impossible for it to have been made in a lab.

Like Oasis007 told you, read what is profitable and leave nonsense aside please.

A40:
https://twitter.com/THISDAYLIVE/status/1256828948874485765?s=19

Umunna mu na malaria

They are fleeing the city, meaning other states go start to increase infection rate

raumdeuter:
If you choose not to be vaccinated then there are certain things you should be excluded from e.g going to schools, stadiums, hospital any large gathering because you can infect people with weak immune systems, If you choose not to be vaccinated then it would be better to stay in isolation with others who rejected vaccines like you

You know what rejection of polio vaccines led to in Nigeria? Before Polio vaccines do you know how many children were dying yearly?

Govt have enough numbers to achieve herd immunity and don't need to worry about immunising the Conspiracy theorists.

Govt will only bring such draconian measures into place if there are enough blockheads rejecting vaccine to threaten herd immunity.

But before that, they would have exhausted all persuasive efforts whether that's media campaign or asking religious leaders like Sultan of Sokoto to give the OK like they did with Polio in Northern Nigeria.

gensteejay:
Some conspiracy claims are worth checking out, especially as regards the efficacy of vaccines in preventing diseases generally. Personally, I'm doing more research on that and related issues.

The main issues I see for now in this whole thing are mandatory vaccination for coronavirus, which Bill Gates advocates, and human rights concerns as regards data privacy and tracking via digital certificates of immunized people (another project championed by Gates).

People could check out this site, https://id2020.org/

Many things seem to be fishy about the whole thing. However, I won't take any definitive stand for now.

I have very little patience for conspiratorial minds.

After you have finished your shakara, Govt will still vaccinate the vast majority of people and heavens will not fall because vast majority are sensible people. You can line up behind the Polio rebels and the MMR rebels who eventually were proven to be simple minded rabble-rousers.

Nobody is microchipping anybody. Vaccination will be advised by Govt with strong education campaigns, and will be voluntary just like NTA made us all go for full vaccination in the early 90s, and just like the nurses don't have to tell you twice when your wife born pikin before you accept all available vaccines.

The vast majority of people are looking forward to the vaccine, so Govt does not care about the vocal minority of Conspiracy theorists on Social Media. Govt will only have a problem if you Conspirators manage to convince enough percentage of the population not to vaccinate that threatens their herd immunity calculations.

What you will need digitised in the early stage is whether you have already had Covid and have developed antibodies so Govt can exclude you form any lockdown and free you to go out and contribute the economy. It's called disease control.

Below is how jobless cretins and reprobate minds built up conspiracy theory about Bill Gates advocating for microchipping out of nothing.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/conspiracy-theorists-are-using-a-bill-gates-reddit-ama-to

iamoyindamola:
But wait a moment, till date covid-19 doesn't have cure then what did the victims recover from.
I'm talking about testing from positive to negative, does that mean covid-19 still exist in the recovery victims system?

Most viruses are fought off by the immune system. More than 99% of people who catch Covid will fight it off naturally. Statisticians are putting the real mortality rate somewhere around 0.6%.

The problem is that it is so infectious that it will likely infect the whole population. So in a population of 200m like Nigeria, maybe a million people could die.

gensteejay:
https://www.nairaland.com/5831966/arrest-bill-gates-americans-protest
Interesting thread. I think people need to do more research about Griffon's claims on coronavirus.

For now, I am sitting on the fence while I research more on the subject.

And the 4G's strike again!

Mass vaccination is not a conspiracy, it is a reality! It is standard protocol for disease control and the fastest way to herd immunity, and every Government and Virologist would encourage it. Continue making Bill Gates the boogeyman.

Since herd immunity only requires 60% - 90% of population immunity, we the sensible ones will take vaccine and ensure the protection of the 10% of reprobate minds who see a conspiracy in it.

But don't blame Bill Gates when your employer refuses to allow you work so you don't infect their staff and spoil their business.

larride:
Where did you see me say it’s Malaria that’s worrying Kano?

Referring to your friends Elruditor and the one whose brain is Swisshed off

larride:
Like BlueRay once said, without posthumous testing, there will be no way to 100% ascertain if the deaths are Covid19 related or not but Verbal Autopsy does give a clue about what to point to.

I asked that question because of the way you were ridiculing the Verbal Autopsy.

The data they will get from the VA will be used to a certain degree to ascertain the likely cause of death. I’m not a doctor and I’m not sure if I heard Malaria causes shortness of breath, dry cough and the likes.

The Kaduna State Ministry of Health yesterday confirmed receipt of 16 more positive Corona Virus results, 15 of them from almajiris from Kano.

The state has now recorded 50 cases from repatriated Kano almajiris.

That's even with limited testing.

Most Northern States are reporting cases from Kano returnees, and you want us to believe say na Malaria dey worry Kano

Swissh:
And somebody said it perfectly


"" This lockdown is also preventing sick people from going to the hospital for treatment!!
They're number of sick people in Kano who no longer have access to the hospital and I think kano state government should do something about that! People are also calling radio stations complaining that their love ones with malaria, diabetes, typhoid don't have access to drug ""

It's refreshing seeing people that can still think.

Corona denier!

Cow wey travel go Yankee go turn to Corned beef, just like Corona wey travel go Naija go turn to Malaria

Of what gain is it to deny Corona?

Does the Corona abroad behave different to the Corona in Nigeria?

And yet another illustrious Kano son succumbs to "brief illness"

https://www.nairaland.com/5831428/rabiu-musa-dead-showed-coronavirus

Another "brief illness" death in Kano. One of the Emir's they used to weaken Sanusi

"Lassa Fever" should respect itself oh

https://www.nairaland.com/5831480/emir-tafida-abubakar-ila-dies

Sleekmilan01:
everyone felt he meant actual soap and disinfectant,but to me I feel he was talking about something similar to disinfectant but that can be applied inside the body but not harmful to it....

We don't need a President talking like a kindergarten student. This is the sort of suggestion we expect from a 4 year old. We have known for 4 months that bleach, disinfectants and soap kill Coronavirus but no one was stüpid enough to wonder out loud whether Scientists have looked for a disinfectant in vivo. These things kill most viruses in vitro whether na HIV or Ebola. Imagine Jonathan grabbing microphone to ask Doctors whether they could look for Ebola disinfectant for inside the body.

When you have certain level of education, you don't say foolish things out loud.

lekki1444:
listen here cretin, not all drugs are disinfectants. a drug for headache is not a disinfectant. a drug to slow the flow of menstrual blood is not a disinfectant. an internal disinfectant will be called an anti-pathogen not a drug. so that tells me you dont know what you are talking about. now could trump have come up with a better use of word considering he is the president ? of course because in coming up with the word he used he gave many people without common sense ( including yourself ) the wide margin to make speculations as to what he means

Shut up. All anti-pathogens ingested into the body are still called drugs.

Or is antibiotic not a drug again?

Fool.

lekki1444:
it wasnt sarcasm, however it wasnt literal either. he said it as an illustrative speech. like he is saying the way disinnfectant kills pathogens outside the body, they need something like that for inside the body. he didnt mean a literal disinfectant but he means an illustrative disinfectant created for insiide the body. which tells me humans have become stupid because they dont get illustrative speech

Shüt up.

A disinfectant for inside the body is called drugs.

Scientists don't need a stüpid man pointing out that disinfectants work in vitro. Clinical trials to find what works in vivo have been going on before Trumps kindergarten brain heard of Coronavirus.

Yemike:
I just like this man Don't ask me why cuz I don't know

Cos you are a mumu?

donjazet:
His 2 strong campaign stance were on immigration and the economy.

Right now no one gives a fuck_ about immigration and the economy is tanked.
I don't believe that the vast majority of Americans are that stupid to reelect trump.
The swing states that won him the election are tilting back to the democrats.
Current polls show him losing many of them.

Come to think of it, Biden is from Pennsylvania which may stand him in good stead for those Appalachian swing States

donjazet:
This one way you decide show your face today, are we safe?

Modified: just realized that is rick Wilson.

Who be Rick Wilson? I just copy the pic from Internet.

afrodoc2:
The guy must be the worst bully possible. It is obvious that his advisers are afraid to correct him even when he is being dumb.

If you like, keep mocking the Stable Genius. What works in vitro must surely work in vivo. We are curing Corona already here in Manchester.

donjazet:
I strongly believe that trump would lose his reelection bid. The only fear is that Biden is not looking like a strong challenger. A strong opponent would have floored trump publicly by now but not much is heard or seen of Biden.

They're calling him Sleeping Joe. He no want come outside for fear of Corona

Me drinking bleach after The Stable Genius' latest press conference

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Chicagoesontop:
Una sure say the guy head still correct ??

The guy done broke dey blame him village people since. All this one na story

diggz:
Unless hushpuppi get blood ties with Edo state then him and that guy no relate.

Meanwhile, I've read alot about Kent and all. E get some area wey no good at all like Chatham,Gravesend etc, but my side still dey ok small. Though e get one zone wey people label as bad, but most of the bad guys don dey jail dey do serious time so it's relatively peaceful. Plus where I invest put dey very ok so no change for now until few years from now.


Also, I think that happened in Chatham area, but na blank gun the guy use.

Which areas you think dey ok? Abi na to move dey go Wales

Dem say the guy na Hushpuppi cousin. Who knows?

Them say na airgun the guy dey fire, but airgun bullets dey small and round whilst the guy dey show some hollow tips for him video, so I no too sure like that.

I no too know Kent jare. I just dey joke say if Hushpuppi people dey carry gun for that side, then e no go safe for Mompha to stay round there.

Someone sent me a video on WhatsApp about Ronaldinho on Xvideos.

This guy is finished jare.

Hushpuppis cousin disturbing Kent with gunshots.

Oga Diggz, it go make sense to pack out of Kent sha. If you know, you know.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7w2RQrdlfg

Them say Nicotine dey reduce the risk of complications from Corona

Pass the Dutchie to the left hand side!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/french-study-suggests-smokers-at-lower-risk-of-getting-coronavirus?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1587565514

Victornezzar:
. A month or thereabout

Thanks. Do you have any quick resources (links) to recommend?

While other clubs players are bickering over wage cuts or wage deferrals, Chelsea players have accepted 10% wage cut (not deferral) and are open to further cuts should the need arise.

When you have an owner like Abramovic who continues to pay all staff, even casual matchday staff who have no fixed contract, who has opened up Chelsea hotel for Healthcare staff to stay for free so they can be close to their hospital etc, the players have no choice but to follow his lead.

Victornezzar:
Most of these things dey YouTube

In your opinion, how long would it take to learn Python devoting 4 hours per week to it

@ larride

This one they say people are dying like fowl in Kano, and now Kano has run out of testing kits, how you see am?

nihilistjnr:
I'm not sure bill gates is involved with the Oxford vaccine though.

I think that's a UK government funded one

He has pledged support for rollout of any successful vaccine

Copied. . .


Oxford University commences human trials for VACCINE against corona virus.

Who will support the trials and further research?

Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
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When the vaccine scales through.....

Price: $2,500

Who will contribute billions to reduce unit cost?

Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
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When there is no electricity..

And vaccines face danger of being denatured.

Who provides cold chain support?

Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
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Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.