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RisenPhoenix:
Correction; there were other casulaties...all senior terrorists.



You don't have to go far looking for examples. The US with all the latest tech weapons is still having problems with the ragtag Taliban. Asymmetric warfare is not dependent on who has the best weapons, but who commits the most atrocities. Saudi Arabia in Yemen, like the US in Afghanistan; are political actors with reputations to maintain. All casualties are immediately blamed on them, so they have to be very transparent and careful. Their opponents on the other hand, have no such inhibitions; the Houthis and Taliban can bomb schools and hospitals, and ignore the few voices that follow. The US and Saudi Arabia cannot do the same. This is why that kind of war is unwinable.

But for Iran, the US need not invade on ground. All they have to do is destroy Iranian infrastructure and take out their security apparatus, then leave the rest to local armed factions who hate the regime like crazy... Kurds, Baluchis, Ahvazis, over-the-border Taliban and the more cosmopolitan MEK. The US need not put one boot on the ground, except maybe to train those groups to fight. A war with Iran will be over in a month...if the US decides not to 'develop' the ruins or install a government as they foolishly tried to do in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Since U.S. President Donald Trump’s September announcement calling peace talks with the Taliban “dead,” the Qatar-based Taliban leadership has made widely-reported visits to Moscow, Tehran, Beijing and Islamabad.

https://thediplomat.com/2019/10/the-talibans-diplomatic-reemergence/

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – Kurdish political leaders visited Iranian consulate offices in Erbil and Sulaimani on Sunday to extend their condolences to Islamic Republic on the killing of Gen. Qasem Soleimani in a US drone attack in Baghdad early Friday.


https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/050120201

"We are here for the mourning ceremony of a great commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps who was a friend of the people of Iraq and a friend of the Kurds in different stages," Fazil Mirani, head of the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) politburo, told Rudaw at the Consulate General of the Islamic Republic of Iran in Erbil.

He was part of a KDP delegation paying their respects.

Soleimani had a big role in the Iran-Iraq war and he had a very positive role assisting Iraq and Kurdistan in the war against Daesh [Islamic State, ISIS]," Mirani said. Iran was the first country to come to the aid of Baghdad and Erbil when ISIS swept across large swathes of the country in 2014.

"We send our condolences to his family through the consulate in the name of President Barzani, the KRG [Kurdistan Regional Government] presidency, the KRG, and the KDP Politburo, and the KDP secretariat. We hope that great men in their life serve peace and we hope that losing them will serve the same purpose," added Mirani.

Members of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) visited the Iranian consulate in Sulaimani to pay their respects.

"We shared in our grief with the Islamic Republic of Iran," Adnan Mufti, member of the PUK Supreme Political Council, told reporters.

The US of course can destroy Iran and their infrastructures, but Iran also is capable in the same regards in so many ways, but let's move away from all that to realistic engagements and confrontations and the folks you listed especially the Taliban.

Why is the Taliban shuttling back and forth to Iran to discuss their peace moves with the US?

Iran is more powerful and influential in that part of the world than the US and realities in that part of the world is local and regional, not about the best weapons and what the US can destroy or not destroy.

The US after trillions of dollars and thousands of deaths in Afghanistan is begging the same Taliban, a rebel group that fought the US to a stalemate for peace and withdrawal agreement. What happened to all their superior weapons and largest military budget in the world?

You also mentioned the Kurds, but the Kurds leadership and parties actually went to Iran to express condolence over the death of Sulaimani. This is an open display of support and friendship.

The Kurds are not stupid, they saw what Trump did to them in Syria when Trump abandoned and sold them out to the Turks, to them, Trump is not a dependable American president and the leadership all over the mid east are not clueless when ot comes t the current American leadership.

https://www.un.org/sg/en/content/sg/personnel-appointments/2019-10-29/ms-damilola-ogunbiyi-of-nigeria-special-representative-of-the-secretary-general-for-sustainable-energy-for-all


The woman was appointed back in October last year and was going to leave anyways, it wasn't a secrete so of what relevance was the suspension and and reversal. ?

Her new boss is the UN secretary General.

Xmen149:
there were others (casualties),but the media is not saying whom they are.. Intel in US is insisting the man has been going on meetings with terror groups hatching a big attack...this kind of hit happens when there is a gathering of the big fishes that only one will course international wave when hit but if u fail to hit the fishes will scatter

it's not everyday you have all evil men/planners in one place,.Trump took the chance

the media(CNN mostly) should do well to name the others they always talk about that died with the general bcs I don't think US intelligence community is going to exit those details

As part of the incendiary and escalating crisis surrounding the assassination of Qassem Soleimani, there has come an explanation of why the Iranian commander was actually in Baghdad when he was targeted by a US missile strike.

Iraq’s prime minister revealed that he was due to be meeting the Iranian commander to discuss moves being made to ease the confrontation between Shia Iran and Sunni Saudi Arabia – the crux of so much of strife in the Middle East and beyond.

Adil Abdul-Mahdi was quite clear: “I was supposed to meet him in the morning the day he was killed, he came to deliver a message from Iran in response to the message we had delivered from the Saudis to Iran.”

The prime minister also disclosed that Donald Trump had called him to ask him to mediate following the attack on the US embassy in Baghdad. According to Iraqi officials contact was made with a number of militias as well as figures in Tehran. The siege of the embassy was lifted and the US president personally thanked Abdul-Mahdi for his help.

There was nothing to suggest to the Iraqis that it was unsafe for Soleimani to travel to Baghdad – quite the contrary. This suggests that Trump helped lure the Iranian commander to a place where he could be killed. It is possible that the president was unaware of the crucial role that Soleimani was playing in the attempted rapprochement with the Saudis. Or that he knew but did not care.

One may even say that it is not in the interest of a president who puts so much emphasis on American arms exports, and whose first official trip after coming to office was a weapons-selling trip to Saudi Arabia – during which he railed against Iran – to have peace break out between the Iranians and the kingdom. But that would be far too cynical a thought.

Abdul-Mahdi spoke of his disappointment that while Trump was expressing his gratitude over the mediation, he was also simultaneously planning an attack on Soleimani. That attack took place not long after the telephone call from the president.

There is also the possibility that the US military planners knew nothing about the conversations between Trump and Abdul-Mahdi, and took out Soleimani when the opportunity presented itself.

There may be credence to this, if one follows the narrative which is emerging from defence and intelligence officials in Washington: that the assassination option presented to Trump was bound to be refused, as it had been by his predecessors in the White House. And that there was a desperate scramble to track down Soleimani when, much to their shock, Trump ordered the hit.

The existence of the talks between the Saudi and the Iranians and, more importantly, the threat of impending violence, has meant reaction in Riyadh at the killing has been markedly muted.

Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, not a stranger to sabre rattling, has sent his younger brother, deputy defence minister Khalid bin Salman, to Washington to urge restraint.

The very real risk of the region becoming a arena for conflict has led to rare cooperation in the stand-off between the Saudi-led Gulf block and Qatar, whose foreign minister was dispatched to Tehran with a similar appeal for calm.

In Tehran, Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani met with Iranian president Hassan Rouhani to discuss “measures to maintain the security and stability of the region,” the state-run Qatar News Agency reported. While in the UAE the foreign minister, Anwar Gargash, called for “rational engagement”, tweeting: “wisdom and balance must prevail.”

As well as being in danger of getting caught in the crossfire of a war between the US and Iran, the Arab states in the region are vulnerable to Tehran’s allied militias – in Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq and Syria. There is concern whether the US, after unleashing a wave of missiles, would do anything when retribution is taken on its partner countries.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/qassem-soleimani-death-iran-baghdad-middle-east-iraq-saudi-arabia-a9272901.html

According to the Iraqi prime minister, the Iranian General was actually on a peace mission between Iran, Saudi and the Gulf state when he was killed, not on any terrorist mission.

Iamgrey5:
@ emboldened

America would never and I repeat never support Saudi Arabia with its latest weapons for different reasons.[/b][b]


Moving on, Yemeni's case has always been very peculiar because of the tribal nature of the country.

The houtis controlled more territories before Saudi Arabia and UAE joined the Yemeni government forces through Air support and push them back the houtis a little bit.

Ironically Many of the Houtis still relied on American weapons they can get on the black market as was exposed in CNN report recently. Many of Houtis used American tankers to counter Saudi Air strikes.

Saudis couldn’t stop attack on oil facilities, even with top US defenses

Saudi Arabia has multiple batteries of advanced U.S. Patriot air defense missiles, which are meant to shoot down hostile aircraft or shorter-range ballistic missiles. Patriots provide “point defense” — not protection of wide swaths of territory — and it’s unclear whether any were positioned close to the oil sites.

The U.S. provides intelligence and surveillance support to the Saudi military, but that, too, has its limitations.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/09/19/saudis-couldnt-stop-attack-on-oil-facilities-even-with-top-us-defenses/

Actually, Saudi is loaded with so many advanced weapons from the US, selling $10 billion advanced weapons to Saudi Arabia was Trump's first official foreign visit and duty in office., but Saudi Arabia is still vulnerable more than ever and they still couldn't stop common drones.

The Houthis fighting with American weapons is because of spoils of war, they are not destroying the America weapons they confiscated from defeated American backed Saudis or Yemeni troops, they are as expected using them against their enemies.

It's actually the other way around, the North love the VP, stop obsessing over imaginary cabals, disinformation and fake narratives.

Rosskii:
Why don't you want to ''blow up'' Saudi Arabia instead? Or you don't know they are sponsors of Al Qaeda and ISIS (with US backing)? Do you know Osama bin Laden was a Saudi citizen? Do you know the bin Laden family is among Saudi's richest billionaire families, and that they do big business openly in the US?

Why do you think Iran has been so keen to fight Al Qaeda and ISIS? Even driving them out of Iraq, Syria and Turkey?

Mr 'Iraq vet', are you only good to use guns without using your grey matter?

The US and Iran are currently on the battle by proxies in Yemen.

The US's proxy is Saudi Arabia fighting with Advanced american war plans, weapons, gadgets and intelligence.

Iran's proxy are the Houthi rebels with weapons supplied by Iran.

Why is it so difficult for Saudi with their expensive American weapons, satellite imagery and intelligence to defeat the Houthi rebels?

Why are the Houthi rebels in control of nearly the whole of Yemen instead of Saudi Arabia with their sophisticated weapons and the largest defense budget in the Mid east.?

The Yemen war is about to come to an end. A Saudi official admitted this week for the first time since 2016 that Riyadh is in talks with the Houthi rebels. The talks have surfaced despite the Houthis being in charge of the capital Sanaa and the other most populous parts in Northern Yemen, which indicates that the Saudis are coming to terms with this status quo.

The radical approach of effectively flushing the Houthis out of the north has been abandoned. The new approach of accepting the Houthis as part of the new post-war reality in Yemen, on the other hand, is much more sophisticated.

The attack on the Saudi Aramco oil installations in September, which knocked out half of the Kingdom’s production, was a tipping point. This week, Aramco launched an initial public offering (IPO) to be listed on the local stock market, abandoning Mohamed bin Salman’s original plan to list it on overseas markets. The escalation with Iran began to have a direct effect on the Saudi economy.

Moreover, the Yemen war is historic as it exposed Saudi Arabia’s national and geopolitical weaknesses. Besides the big holes in its defence strategy, Saudi Arabia has found itself vulnerable on an unprecedented level. Throughout the last two years (especially after Bashar al-Assad had appeared to be heading towards a decisive victory over his opponents in Syria. Iran has been clenching its fist on Iraq, the Levant and Yemen. This means effectively flanking Saudi Arabia from the north and south.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/saudi-arabia-yemen-houthi-rebels-riyadh-oil-us-trump-a9196501.html

Saudi Arabia with the latest, the most advanced weaponry, open American support and defense budget can not defeat a rebel group funded and supported by Iran. American support and American weapons didn't prevent them from detecting their exposure, vulnerabilities and precarious situation.

Saudi Arabia as the US's proxy must contend with the fact that Iran is the regional power in that neighborhood.

Dedetwo:
You got your head almost in the right direction until the bolded. Trump did not betray Kurds although the Syrian Kurds may think betrayed. However the issue of Kurds is bigger than you see on the tubes. There are Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian and Turkish Kurds. The frame work on the ground is to get a marked territory for the entire Kurds. It is not easy. As for China and Russia conducting naval drills with Iran has no bearing on the capabilities of USA. China and Russia will advise Iran to tread carefully.

House Republicans break 2-to-1 against Trump on withdrawal of Kurd support

Trump told reporters in the Oval Office on Wednesday that the Kurds are “no angels,” but Republican lawmakers who fought alongside them in Iraq and Syria called them reliable and effective U.S. allies.

“Let me be clear on the Kurds: Aside from Israel, they’re our best ally in the Middle East,” said Rep. Michael Waltz, a former Green Beret who worked with Kurds in Syria.

“They have been fighting shoulder to shoulder — not in a support role, an actual fighting role — with us for decades. I think we need to recognize that, and I think the American people need to appreciate that,” the Florida Republican said.

Rep. Don Bacon, who fought alongside Kurdish allies as part of the invasion of Iraq in the early-2000s, told CQ Roll Call on Wednesday that they are “the one group you could have behind you and not worry about your back.”

The Nebraska Republican has vociferously advocated for the administration to take active measures to stop Turkey’s advance in northern Syria, where videos have emerged of Kurds being slaughtered by Turkish-led soldiers.

“They were loyal, they were good,” Bacon said of the Kurds he fought with in Iraq. “They were our best folks on the ground of the indigenous folks out there. I know a lot of folks are hurt and angered that we didn’t stay loyal to the Kurds, who have been by our side for really the last 16 years.”

Bacon and Waltz were among the scores of Republicans who rebuked Trump by voting for the bipartisan resolution on Wednesday. Waltz is not facing a competitive reelection, but Bacon remains a Democratic target in 2020, although his Democratic opponents have posted lackluster fundraising numbers.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/house-republicans-break-2-1-trump-withdrawal-kurd-support

Abandoning the Kurds was a major blunder, so major that Trump's republican lawmakers not only rebuked him, they also voted to pass a bipartisan congressional resolution against him.

China and Russia's Naval drills with Iran wasn't about military confrontation, it was about stating categorically where they stand politically and regionally, it means they will veto any US sponsored or favored anything against Iran at he UN which China already asserted.

There's not going to be any war unless the US unilaterally invade or blow up Iran, the current battlefield is political and asymmetric warfare by proxies.

After decades in Iraq and $Trillions of dollars and thousands of American casualties, the US today is leaving Iraq, the same Iraq which today is practically Iran annex and totally under the control of Iran.

I know when the US went into Iraq to spend their blood and treasure, they didn't know that at the end of the day, it's going to be the same America handing over Iraq to Iran for good.

On top of that, the Kurds used to be American allies and counterweight in Iraq, but Trump already betrayed and abandoned the Kurds in the North and in Syrian.

China, Russia and Iran just concluded a joint Naval drill in the Gulf of Oman, sending a strong message to the US that Iran is not alone.

Iran won round one because they took Iraq without firing a bullet.

After decades in Afghanistan and Trillions of dollars and thousands of American casualties and rhetoric that America don't bargain with terrorists, Trump is today bargaining with the Taliban to leave Afghanistan.

Losing ground, losing influence, losing prestige, losing allies and global territories while siting on the most powerful army and weaponry is nothing to be proud of, it's all about global chess game and America is not winning.

Iran is more powerful in the region today than last week.

Lazy Nigerian youths, learn more, read more and stop peddling fake gist and internet propaganda, the issue is more complex and it's not about the latest weapon or how powerful you are.

Anambralstson:
I can feed you

Feed me with what?

With your lies and propaganda?

Get a life.

Anambralstson:
Illiterate estimate 10 trillion cubic feet of gas with current gas price what is the estimate I It's more than $5 billion

Show us the official NNPC reserve estimate and where the NNPC stated $5 billion, more or less.

See, you can not even defend and support your lies and propaganda with genuine and official facts and figures.

What do you do for a living apart from peddling lies and propaganda for 1 cup of gari.?

Anambralstson:
I thought you guys claimed there was no gas in Anambra, Anambra basin has huge gas reserve, I know you are very bitter to hear this, the future is very bright for eastern States

http://www.sevenenergy.com/operations/upstream/upstream-asset-overview

Look at this liar and propaganda errand boy fooling himself, who said anything about there is no gas in anambra?

I asked you to show us the estimated reserve figures and the $5 billion reserve estimate released by the NNPC as you claimed in your lies and propaganda topic.

All the irrelevant rubbish you keep posting is just proving my point that you are a liar and a propagandist, you can not show us where the NNPC stated the quantity of whatever gas you are talking about or where the NNPC said it's worth $5 billion.

Liar.

Anambralstson:
Why are you bitter and Jealous

Show us the estimated reserve figures and the $5 billion reserve estimate released by the NNPC?

Are you really ignorant or you are just pretending to be?

Anambralstson:
Jealous mind, NNPC website

https://www.nnpcgroup.com/NNPC-Business/Business-Information/Pages/Development-of-the-Industry.aspx

Show us the estimated reserve figures and the $5 billion reserve estimate released by the NNPC?

Are you really ignorant or you are just pretending to be?

Anambralstson:
Pain Conehead ;

You are allowed to default to comedy and nuisance routine in the absence of facts, rational and intelligent defense of your lies and propaganda.

Anambralstson:
Ignorant is a disease

There are gas basins all over Nigeria, but the FG and the institutions the FG charged to explore and make pronouncements regarding such issues are yet to affix monetary figures and reserve estimates to any of the basis in Nigeria.

What you posted was a meaningless and unofficial speculation aka propaganda which you are very well known for.

I don't trust this news, OP is a known lies and propaganda poster,

Soapy coward revolution. Inside life inside jail no be small tin.

Oga trump, you can not do that, it's called war crimes.

When you don't have advisers or don't listen to advisers..

gidgiddy:
Same way the Nigerian government targeted unarmed IPOB members, killed them, then declared them terrorists as many Nigerians cheered that injustice

Is ipob a country or sovereing state like Iran?

Nigeria: President Jonathan, Private Jets and Nigerian Economy

President Goodluck Jonathan's reference to the increasing number (150) of private jets,PJ owners in Nigeria as a symbol of a growing economy during his campaign stomp was pooh poohed by his political opponents who see PJs as evidence of corruption.

https://allafrica.com/stories/201503270582.html

According to your boss, increasing number of private jet owners in Nigeria was a good thing, it was a symbol of a growing economy.

So why was it a good thing back then and a bad thing now?

Even Aso Rock under your boss amassed more jets than many airlines in Nigeria.

Bad bele and hypocrisy galore..

The man just took impeachment noise off the table and replaced it with Iran and you think he's stupid.

It's less about Iran and more about American local politics just like he ranted about Obama trying to go to war with Iran to win elections, it's all about local politics.

Nearly everything we read on NL is fake.

Fake news with pictures from 2017.

hotwax:
China. Economy is built on usa...if usa crashed today China crashes...

Do u know China owns the money usa is going to use to fight irann?

China is an ally of usa..use ur brain

Economic agreements and disagreements has nothing to do with political, regional, global and military alliance. China is not in any kind of alliance beyond economic

China won't join the US in any military or political action against Iran.

China will veto any US sponsored UN security council action against Iran like they've done so many times.

China and Iran just concluded Naval drills in the Persian gulf, a very loud signal and warning that China is on the side of Iran.

Stop mixing apples and oranges.

nyben231101:
And you failed to share your "broad" views, can we have a civilized conversation without name calling like babarians?

Saying your views are too narrow and simplistic was describing your views, not name-calling, stop being dramatic and sentimental.

China's interest with the US is different from China's interest with Iran, different issues, different reactions.

nyben231101:
But you believe too much what you read on the internet?

Meanwhile the alleged "ally" will hold meetings on Tuesday to resolve their trade war, why didn't they back out as a sign of solidarity with their "ally"?

Different and unrelated issues, your views are too simplistic and narrow..

Russia, China, Iran start joint naval drills in Indian Ocean


DECEMBER 27, 2019 / 2:07 AM / 9 DAYS AGO

Russia, China, Iran start joint naval drills in Indian Ocean


DUBAI/MOSCOW (Reuters) - Iran, China and Russia began joint naval drills on Friday in the Indian Ocean and Gulf of Oman, in what Moscow said was an unprecedented exercise in naval cooperation and training.

Waters around Iran have become a focus for international tensions, with the United States exerting pressure for Iranian crude oil sales and other trade ties to be cut off.

“The message of this exercise is peace, friendship and lasting security through cooperation and unity... and its result will be to show that Iran cannot be isolated,” Iranian flotilla admiral Gholamreza Tahani said on state television.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-military-russia-china/russia-china-iran-start-joint-naval-drills-in-indian-ocean-idUSKBN1YV0IB

Don't read too much into what what some TV person opined on TV.

Law enforcement in Europe is too linient, In America, they'll go to jail so fast for terrorism, Assault and battery.

Amaechi is still my favorite in this administration.

eagleu:
Until all the Hausa Fulani people are all fully employed by this Buhari administration, other groups just have to be patient.

Unfortunately for you, the man is not even Hausa Fulani.

Tribalism and bigotry miss road.

You know nothing about Nigeria, but you know a lot about tribalism and bigotry.

NnamdiKanu:
only Northerners are qualified for top positions... F*ck one Nigeria Umunna

Only northerners are qualified, but a southerner just served a full term.

Were the northerners not qualified when the southerner was appointed years ago?

You people no dey make sense with your hatred, tribalism and bigotry sha.

Mr project, but all the project in the thread are Amaechi's projects?

I hope you collect big brown envelope for this weak lies and propaganda job.

sassysure:
In other words, they just confirmed what everybody has been saying that dss didn't act on their own.
Case closed.

Why denying it before?

You must have read a different article, not the one in this thread. The constitution and the act that established the DSS gave the DSS authority and mandate to do their job which is to protect Nigeria from enemies within and stabilizing elements like sowore, they absolutely don't need any direction or order from anybody including the president to do their job.

Hatred for Nigeria and the president doesn't mean you people shouldn't apply common sense sometimes.