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cap28: Thanx guys how do u email seun direct to get him to unblock?
All I have access to r these nl email addresses that nevr respond to ur queries

You can find him on twitter. Twitter search seun nairaland. Or seun osinawa (something like that) and ask him. Or email like him as a friend on nairaland and email him from here

Also you are right. About harvard cambride and oxford. Those schools serve the caucasian race not the black race. They make you look down on your own people and turn you into a european. All of our degrees don't mean anything unless we are building nigeria.

All we need is oinfrastructure and we can start up great businesses.

cap28: As usual u r on point bro I've been typing frm my fone as I cnt log on frm my pc since this new format was introduced thts why my posts r short and disjointed each time I try to log on I get this mssge saying 411 do u knw hw I cn resolve this bro?

Seun miight have blocked yoiur ip as shymmex said. Ask him to unblock. Also try going on a different iip address. Maybe your friend or family member computer and see if it works there. Maybe even try to make. A new account to see if that works.

PhysicsQED: I'm honestly just interested in knowing what's true whether it's popular or not. And I couldn't be Eurocentric. Euronuts think civilization started in Greece! I honestly hope more evidence can be found supporting the thesis that the roots of Greek civilization were mostly Afroasiatic.

THere are books about this called Black Athena, Stolen Legacy, Africa: Mother of Western Civilization and African origins of civilization. Watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL7-Y4_3QMs

@Shymemex and @cap28
Hotep my fellow Pan African brothers. I se you guys know your history. Frantz Fanon, Diop, Ivan Sertima, Drusilla Houston, JA Rogers, Basil Davidson, Martin Bernal, all Africans need to read their books to rid ourselves from the inferioirty complex that the race has. We must also control the TV and not let any negative images of blacks onTV. We must also control the image of God and not let a white jesus in any church around Africa. We must ban the white image of Jesus and change it to a black Jesus or we should rid the religion in total and go back to spirituality (withou the ritual stuff).

The physical slavery is over now it is the mental slavery. Most of the black race is enslaved in the mind. We goto Harvard, Columbia, Cambridge, Oxford and we can't even solve Africa's problems. It doesn't matter what we do in America or Europe, as long as Africa is he way it is then it is still bad. We need to WAKE UP!!! We need to rpresent Africa well. Buy Nigerian products clothes and when we are abroad weneed to be proud of where we came from. I started this site for a reason. www.nigerianedp.com so more people can use their money to build Nigeria. Like us on Facebook here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nigerian-Economic-Development-Plan/278164788911610

Ngozi Okonjo is a harvard educated but that means NOTHING unless she builds Nigeria. Her style of economics fits the world Bank and serves the west NOT Africa. THe harvards and Cambridges serve European style and teach about EUROPE!! Read the book miseducation of a negro by Carter G WOodson it is a MASTER PIECE. Negros are miseducated worldwide not just America.

@Shymmex I know many people put you down for trying to be proud of where you are but you should still keep trying to convince Africans to unite. We need to before it is too late and we are exterminated. THis century is te most important in our history. THe EUropeans may exterminate us when they need to rebuild their ciites after LA, CIcago, NY Londn and Paris get nuked by RUssi or China. Beijing and Shanghai can get nuked as well and the Chinese might come for our land. Look what they did to TIbet, they can do it to us as well. We need to WAKE UP! in the next 15 years or it will be our end.

@Cap28 You know alot about international politics, you neeed to tell more people not just on the internet. It is very important that people have nowledge of what is going on it Africa. Man people think that Obama is good for Africa even though he supports a puppet Joseph Kabila, he destroyed Libya and he helped to oust Gbagbo and put a pupet called Outtara Africas think because he is African then he is with them.

This was posted on a facebook page that I like: When Kofi Anan became the UN sec Gen,Africa was full of hope.When El baradie heads the IAEA,Africa was full of hope.When Obama won Africa was full of Hope.A Gambian to head the ICC,Afica started Hoping.When Okonjo became the world Bank MD,Africa hoped nd hoped.The new hope is the hope thet when she becomes the world Bank President Africa will be hopefull.My humble advice to all Africans is to end illusive dreams and take a cue from India,China,Brazil,Singapore,Malaysia,South Korea by only hoping on themselves and work hard to develop their countries..Africans must stop hope in western pupet!! drove out the west in Africa then start using your brain to develop yourself is not too late now #wake up Africa.

We must WAKE UP!!!

[quote author=Capt.Barbosa]Dude, stop trying twist a well established fact based on available figures. Whether you lay spin or not, China is the ONLY factor that make things cheap in africa and by extension nigeria. Without China, there is now way I would have bought that instrument for my mom. so say whatever you want, it wont change that. Many thanks to China!

Secondly, who cares about the origin of te companies used in completing the products? What about tens of millions of Chinese in US providing services to the tech industries? All I know is that, my appliances bares MADE IN CHINA written very boldly and they are very cheap.

By the way, don't you think the bolded proved my point on why things are coming to africa at a very affordable prices and that China is more beneficial to africa than US? The only made in US I can lay my hands on, is a machine gun.[/quote]LMAO good one.

But China is a country that funds wars in Africa too. They aren't as aggressive as the west but they can be in the future. When they become number one, what will they do? Will they try and be like America and control the entire world?

But China has done more good for Africa than America. China isn't perfect like they import workers, atleast America hires locals.

If neocolonialism stopped and Nigerians stopped being so religious and go back to their spiritual side *besides the tiruals) and start doing actions instead of waiting for god to solve the problems.

Her neoliberal economic style is where she was trained in Harvard and MIT. Her style fits more for the World Bank than Nigeria. Nigeria needs more state capitalism because that seems to be working better.

Invest it to start a business. I am thinking manufacturing, tourism, or agriculture will be big in the next 10 years for Nigeria.

cap28: igbo2011 how are you bro? ive been having problems logging on to NL from my computer at home thats why i've not responded to your email - how are you doing? hope well.

Good man just trying to understand what America is doing to Syria because this same situation can happen to Nigeia if Goodluck goes his own way. I was reading that you were thinking about leaving NL because u don't like the new interface. wanted to know if you could send me your facebook or twitter so I can keep in touch it is good to have like minded Nigerians in my circle. It is great to learn from you.
@Afro Blue
What's you FB too?

Both of you should join this group: http://www.facebook.com/pages/THE-REUNION-OF-BLACK-FAMILY-WORLD-WIDE/137580649597223?ref=ts

@Nayah
Dang you know your politics very well. Where do you get your information from?

Reminds me of this CNN article

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/26/world/africa/nigeria-sewage-biogas/index.html

In the crowded slums of Lagos, Nigeria, untreated sewage mingles with the chaotic network of pipes that deliver water to the city. Those who can't afford a local borehole or a private vendor know better than to take their chances with the taps -- most preferring to go thirsty instead.
That's according to Olatunbosun Obayomi, a Lagosian microbiologist and inventor who has lived in the city all his life.
But now Obayomi thinks he's found a solution -- one that not only tackles the slums' sanitation issues, but creates free, clean energy in the process.
"With a cheap retrofit, household septic tanks -- the source of the sewage -- can be converted into biogas generators," said Obayomi, 29, whose concept has earned him a TED fellowship, a Nigerian Youth Leadership Award and growing international acclaim.
"The idea of turning waste into energy has been around for centuries. My innovation is simply applying the chemistry in a practical way by using the resources we already have," he explained.
In most homes in Lagos, toilet waste is stored in rudimentary septic tanks beneath the ground. Here it decomposes into a poisonous compound, before being sucked out by a tanker that deposits it all in a nearby lagoon.
"Unfortunately, the system of water pipes is very disorganized, and they often pass through the same place where the sewage is dumped," said Obayomi. "And it's not uncommon for poorly constructed septic tanks to leak directly into the drainage system."
Conventional septic tank
But rather than attempt a wholesale overhaul of Nigeria's waste system, Obayomi's approach makes use of the existing septic tanks -- equipping them with new waste entry pipes that remove oxygen from the decaying process.
Retrofitted septic tank
As he explained: "When excreta decompose with oxygen, it creates a useless, incombustible mixture that carries disease. But without oxygen, the germs die and the mixture produces a combustible gas."
This biogas -- a mix of carbon dioxide and methane -- can be stored in an adjacent underground chamber and used to power cooking stoves, heat homes or even generate electricity.
Opinion: Tackling climate change still a luxury in developing world
"Converting waste into biogas is a win-win strategy," said Sarah Butler-Sloss, founding director of the Ashden Awards, an organization that champions local energy innovations around the world.
"What makes it so elegant is that it resolves a life-threatening sanitation issue -- by treating harmful, waterborne germs -- while simultaneously creating a much-needed source of carbon-free energy," she said.
Butler-Sloss added that recent figures from the U.N. say 1.4 billion people worldwide have no access to electricity, while 2.7 billion still prepare food on grossly inefficient and carbon-hungry open fires.
"We have seen similar projects in places like India and China -- where everything from domestic garbage to animal waste has been used to produce energy with great success ... Clearly this is the time to embrace domestically produced biogas, especially in the developing world."
What makes it so elegant is that it resolves a life-threatening sanitation issue while simultaneously creating a much-needed source of carbon-free energy
Sarah Butler-Sloss, Ashden Awards founder
It's a view shared by the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP).
Patrick Mwefigye is program officer for sustainable consumption and production at UNEP's regional office for Africa. He says that in areas where there is "little funding, capacity or infrastructure" for complex waste management, "we see the production of biogas as having great potential."
At present, Mwefigye says the gas is regularly produced in just a handful of African nations.
"In Rwanda, for instance, the prisons have been fitted with large biogas generators, so that they are almost entirely self-powering," he said.
But, although Obayomi's retrofitted biogas generator is relatively cheap to build -- requiring only low-tech materials such as plastic pipes, cement and sand -- and despite all the recognition it's attracted, only a prototype has been installed so far.
Yet Obayomi conservatively estimates that the average street in Lagos could produce 1,720 liters of biogas a day -- enough for an engine-powered water pump to serve the daily domestic needs of at least 50 families.
So what's the hold-up?
"Biogas generators tend to be constructed in situ," said Butler-Sloss, "And while the materials are relatively cheap, they're not mass-produced like solar panels or wind-turbines so, at present, it's difficult to scale-up."
Obayomi has a different take, however. For him, it's not an issue of resources or need, but attitude.
"Although I've been filmed by government TV and won these awards, no politician has approached me to build anything. In Nigeria there is a lot of talk but very little walk," he lamented.
There is also a problem of credibility, he said. In Obayomi's experience, the hardest place to be taken seriously as a Nigerian inventor is in Nigeria itself.
"It is a new concept for many Nigerians," he said. "There's still this feeling that unless an idea or a piece of new technology comes from the West, then it's not glamorous ... it's not valid."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yVKrafqzgsU

What do you think about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_viNHVzadeM

Yeah buddy, Africa is still colonized for the most part. Most people don't know it. But more people are starting to relalize, hopefully they spread their knowledge to more people. Afro I hope you spread your knowledge to friends and family. Tell the to stop watching CNN, FOX, MSNBC, and BBC.

Read books and watch lectures by Basil Davidson, Chaunncler Williams, Anta Diop, Ivan Sertima, Drusilla Houston, JA Rogers, John Henrik Clarke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58l3kqcW-zY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY88N6q8Ru8

‎"Eurocentric historians argue that Europe gave civilization to Africa, which is a coomplete inversion of the truth. The first civiulized Europeans were the Greeks, who were chiefly civilized by the Africans of the Nile Valley. The Greeks transmitted this culture to the Romans, who finally lost it, bringing on a dark age of five hundred years. Civilization was restored to Europe when another group of Africans, the Moors, brought this dark age to an end, meanwhile recivilizing the Christian barbarians of Europe."-from The Story of the Moors by Stanlet Lane-Poole

The Greeks were said to create geometry but how can the pyramids be built without the Pythagorean theorem? Africans already had that. The Washington monument is a representation of an obelisk. African origins of math, science, astronomy, technology, architecture, art, etc. Read up on the Dogon tribe they are great too.

What do you think about this lecture?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeEaAvU9AG0&feature=related

I LOVE it, I think Christianity is destroying Africa. We are mentally enslaved. Read these books to understand more about African origins of Christianity http://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Before-Christ-John-Jackson/dp/0910309205

http://www.amazon.com/The-Worlds-Sixteen-Crucified-Saviors/dp/1602062803/ref=pd_sim_b_5

We need to go back to our traditional beliefs. Christianity is making Africans worship white people because of the white Jesus. We need to wake up from this slumber. As fela said we are shuffering and shmiling.

@beaf
Great post man. Very true we hate each other. We need to unite!! https://www.nairaland.com/904429/africans-we-must-unite-perisih

bittyend: Pan-Africanist section?? Will you guys wear danshiki as well?

I wer dashiikis and tradtionals everywhere e I go. Parties clubs, school in America Europe Africa. I wear it everywhere. I am helping to develop the economy by buying Nigerian clothes. Much of my fabric is made in Ghana then sewn in nigeria So I am creating jobs in 2 African countries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVAcyvToTt8

Tourism has potential in Nigeria. Michael Jackson's brother bought land in Badagry and they might build a theme park there.

But if America, Russia, and China fight then that would be bad for the world.

I second this.

Dis Guy: you sure about this?

It was 3am and he was waiting on the street. He was waiting for his other friends so he could go. Then the cops came and harassed him. White people can sell all they want and get away but blacks get in trouble just for walking around.

Watch this to understand more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNu-WZdHzaA

Gbawe: OP, I hear you and appreciate your message. Afterall, Nkrumah said the same thing. What you ask for, in reality, is going to be very hard to achieve - and Nkrumah realized this the hard way . As a business traveller throughout Africa, I can tell you that many African nations are still at a rudimentary level of mental emancipation. It will be difficult to "join hands" with those folks in pan-Africanism. Those Nations still hold the white man as supreme. They would rather marry him, trust him blindly and reject their own kinsman and African brother in his favour.

Western Peadophiles ala Gary Glitter, like white on rice, now flock certain west African Countries (certainly not Nigeria) because of how some Africans are ignorantly trusting of white skin. There is a West African country where the Lebanese and white man is king. The women there aspire, with all their soul, to marry lebanese and Caucasian men. They openly discriminate against their own men. Truly sad when you consider that, arguably, the greatest African came from this nation.

I have long lost interest in any naive notion of Pan-Africanism when real experience gained, on the ground, travelling Africa has shown that pan-Africanism is a concept touted mainly by those who don't understand the existential reality of Africa. Africans in some nation are so bastardized mentally that they make enemies of their own brothers and allow the real enemies to come in and have their ways everywhere. If you don't know the reality on the ground, then carry on your online message. Some of us know, from real experience, that the deification of the white skin is still very potent in Africa to the extent many Africans will always remain turncoats in their desire to serve white skin. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Why is this so? Why do you think they love white skin over their own? Why is there an inferiority complex? I made about this 2 months ago: https://www.nairaland.com/856194/why-do-africans-love-white

The three main things are religion, media, and history.
1. Religion: When Africans looks at a deity that is white then they feel that god is white. The missionaries know hte original god is Jesus is not white but they still push white Jesus. This makes Africans worship white people subconsciously. Christianity originated from Africa anyway. Isis=Mary Horus-Jesus Ankh=Christ 42 principles of Ma at=10 commandments a set=Mary Magdalene. If Africans knew this then they would probably stop following Christianity. If you can enslave a mind then you can have a slave for a thousand year. Now many Africans are slaves in their mind. There is a facebook page for that as well: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Freedom-From-Mental-Slavery/161399403976816
People always say the race of Jesus doesn't matter, but if it didn't matter then why don't missionaries put Jesus in their original image? TO ENSLAVE THE MIND!!! Read the book Christianity before Christ: http://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Before-Christ-John-Jackson/dp/0910309205 and this book http://www.amazon.com/The-Worlds-Sixteen-Crucified-Saviors/dp/1602062803/ref=pd_sim_b_5

2. Media In Media we always see whites as good and blacks as bad. CNN BBC always portrays Africans badly. Many Africans watch this all the time and get their news from their. They believe everything from CNN even though a lot is BS that is why they justified Gbagbo being overthrown and Gaddaffi dying. Also now with this KONY 2012 thing. Even in Hollywood they show America and Europe and glorify it and they see how great the west is. Then they see how their city is then they say wow whites can build great cites but blacks can't. But the blacks don't know HOW they got all of that. What did they do? They exterminated the Native Americans, they enslaved fellow Africans. They cause many wars around the world to get cheap resources. They fund various African wars. Most Africans don't know this because we are brainwashed

3. History: Some Africans only think that their history is slavery and colonization. They glorify Europe and white people in history and say Africans are less than human. Read the book Miseducation of a negro by Carter Woodson. The educated Africans are taught to despise their own people. My friend went to a Christian school in Nigeria and they taught them Americans and European history instead of African history smh. That is how you make a slave.

If you bomb Japan then they can bounce back up. Enslave a mind and they are a slave for life and you make their descendants slaves as well.

We must control the media, teach our great history about how western civilization was made by Africans. http://www.amazon.com/Africa-Western-Civilization-African-American-Heritage/dp/0933121253/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333298517&sr=1-1
We must teach people what these Europeans do behind the scenes and how they do very bad things to get where they are. We must do away with religion and go back to spirituality. Besides the death rituals, spirituality is pretty good. If we must do Christianity then we must only do it with a black Jesus.

READ READ READ if you aren't a good reader then watch lectures on youtube. Don't just read TELL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY!! We must WAKE UP fast before we get exterminated.

Damn us Nigerians are making a bad name around the world. SMH

Things like this make it hard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzzV4fPv-3E

People don't hate us because we are black, it is because of what some of us do give all of us a bad name.

[quote author=One_Naira]If una no realize whom the OP is then una must not pay that much attention on NL.

Anyway OP I support African unity, lets not confuse it with I supporting Nigerian unity, read my words carefully I support African unity thus I support some, not all, of what you said but please do it in your original Id. We might value your post more if you just use your original id, you do not need to hide under an Igbo account.[/quote]I only have one account. I didn't change my ID.

BlackPikiN: I knew the OP operates that Facebook group.

Nah I am not the operator of the page but I know the guy who is. He is a fellow Pan-Africanist like myself.

Russia might leave BRICS because it isn't a fast growing economy anymore. But there are other countries who might join BRICS like Indonesia, Vietnam, Turkey, Mexico, and Nigeria. So us Nigerians will have compettition. But with constant power then Nigeria can grow over 11% a year because less money on generators means more money spending and investing for consumers and producers. This will also attract foreign investment for much needed sectors of investment like agriculture and manufacturing. With power comes more processing plants so Nigeria can make finished food and goods. Then we can start to export. Our textiles industry can be revitalized.

All we need is energy. How will we get it though? Coal, Nuclear, hydro power, solar?

http://apps.facebook.com/theguardian/uk/video/2012/mar/30/police-officer-recording-black-man?code=AQA9Y36xrxMD0DG1PEU12HPc_cufZEfekRFFF3WsSue9NAhqXPkZ19_XzW1DXM6611wg-fzvYvSyP6JHUgO2d9b8BI954Bn84-tdzDsSrBoK2ZBMSMhY5pzFm8Yhiz6itlkbdXzUKVlYZUC-CuYWsBeu3HPNSlNXNAL6zVZIxl5gQG4xv1z3Ku4cMdMqtQBIK-4#_=_

What do you think about this?

Has this ever happened to you when you were outside of Africa?

It hasn't happened to me but one of my friends got stopped and searched for drugs in America because he was black. Had he had drugs then he would have gotten into trouble. The police had no right to search him anyway. Cops state at me a ot when i am walking with my black male friends and they ask me for my ID sometimes when I walk around abroad but besides that not really.

Onlytruth: The unity can only be possible if and when people start to acknowledge their limits as humans, and allow others with more capabilities to lead, instead of scheming them out and killing their aspirations, and in the process killing the aspirations of the entire black race. Do you know how many dreams the Nigerian nation has destroyed simply because she is afraid of the Igbo nation?
Africa and indeed the black race will remain in chains and under bondage until they free EVERYBODY to pursue their God given potentials. If they insist on being together, fine; but let those who are more equipped (read educated and skilled) be allowed to lead. If not, let everybody answer his father's name. All these attempts to blame others for the problems we inflict on ourselves is beginning to get irritating and quite boring.
Now, let me be the first to acknowledge that for the very FIRST TIME, the Nigerian nation is actually supporting one of her own (Innoson) in auto manufacturing. If she did this 20 years ago, Nigeria would have become a major industrial nation today. But what happened was that someone came in the middle of the night and carted away Dr Ezekiel Izuogu's auto models and killed it!
Now we are starting afresh! I am only hoping that nothing changes Nigeria's new found sense of sanity in supporting her own going forward.
Meanwhile, illiterates should be barred from leading Nigeria henceforth. It has nothing to do with foreigners. It is as simple as Nigerians telling the less qualified to sit down and wait for his turn when he must have become educated enough. Simple solution.
Africa's problem is simply that a secondary school product wants to dictate the fate of Harvard graduates. Let us stop looking for the boogeyman outside. He is firmly at home!

Check out the site that I created www.nigerianedp.com It is to support Nigerian companies.

ALso you were talking about educated leaders. Education doesn't always lead to success. Ngozi is very educated but what has she done since she got back to Nigeria? Her western Harvard economic style will not work in Nigeria. You should watch this by Susan George:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_viNHVzadeM

shymmex: SPREAD THE NEWS, BROTHER!!!

THE REBIRTH OF PAN-AFRICANISM AND THE MOORISH MOVEMENT ON NL!!

ASHE!!

Daalu Nwanne,
ASHE!!

[quote author=c.fours]lol. Swahili (East Africa) is not an indigenous African language. It's a mix of Arab, western and indigenous languages kinda like an equivalent of pidgin English spoken all over West Africa.
all people I know who speak swahili also have a native language (whether they can speak their native language or not is another question).

at your second point: well, the real indigenous people of South America are almost gone. They have died or intermarried into extinction so it is natural that their language will die with them.[/quote]It doesn't matter what the langauge is, OI rather speak an African language in Nigeria than a European one. I don't care if English is the international business language, people can learn it on their spare time but we must have our langauge first.

Also people were saying that I have an "Igbo Inferiority" but they said that they rather speak a European language then KiSwahili so does that mean they have an "African inferiority"?

Everyone, these Arabs and whites HATE US. If you look online on some forums look what they say to us. THey call us niggers and abeeds (slave). They do not like us in their countries as well. That is why many Africans experience racism in the west and in middle east countries.

When World War III happens and New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Paris and London are destroyed then they will want to rebuild. THey will go to Africa to rebuild and take our land. We are in a 500 year race war. First slavery, colonization and now neo-colonization. Our land will be next. Look what they did to the Native Americans, Aboriginals, Tasmanians, Incas, Mayans, Tainos, Aztecs and now the Palestinians. WE ARE NEXT!!!

I am sick of all this tribalism we must unite or perish. Divide and conquer will cause our end. We are always divided but I am a Pan-Africanist. We must ALL unite not just Nigeria but Africa!! I don't want us to be exterminated, we will if we don't unite.

Join this page to learn about world black issues: http://www.facebook.com/pages/THE-REUNION-OF-BLACK-FAMILY-WORLD-WIDE/137580649597223

The official Pan-African language is KiSwahili. It is spoken all over east Africa. I don't feel "inferior" at all.[quote author=c.fours]African languages are not going to die anytime soon. that's for sure. so long as we are not developing.
If we become "developed", then there will be a cause for concern.

most people on this website for example, are educated english speaking folks from middle class upbringing. so we are "developed" compared to the average or poor African who are the true guardian of our language and traditions. [/quote]I hope our language doesn't die, we will be like the indigenous people of South America. Their language is almost gone.

Because they want to promote Nigerian clothing so their masses due the same thing. To have a pride for Nigerian culture and heritage. I wear Nigerian clothes all the time too. If millions of NIgerians do this then this will make the economy grow. The textiles industry can be reborn. http://www.nigerianedp.com/nigerian-fashion-gallery/