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Truthshots:You are struggling to deal with the fact that Bini kingdom was over exaggerated and in no way as strong as Igbo towns west (Enuani) and East of the River Niger who offered stiffer resistance to colonial British than Bini could. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Aro_War |
Vintagepipes:The Igbanke I'm seeing is gone. All the Bini needs to keep them is to give them more political posts in Bini and Oba palace. The people are dying to be Bini and are only seeking for Delta state because they feel badly treated by their Edo masters. It's a practical case of Stockholm syndrome. ![]() I watch them deliberate on these issues on their forums and I would just be shaking my head. ![]() |
Truthshots:Haha. This one don vex. |
Vintagepipes:That's the point of my campaign. Ndiigbo have to understand that these people are nothing but opportunists who have nothing to offer Ndiigbo. We must make it impossible for an Ika to be able to claim Igbo for opportunist reasons. We must solidify the distinction between us and these Bini subjects and make it impossible for any of them to claim Igbo without getting publicly disgraced by Ndiigbo. ![]() |
Sufferingboy:You are Bini subjects. What happened in Ikaland is same as in Hausaland. It's same thing that happened in Ilorin. The only difference is that origin of the conquered people were distorted in Ika to give the people a sense of belonging by their Bini kings, while in case of Hause and Ilorin, the conquering Fulani kings maintained the history of the people they conquered. So we know that Ilorin natives are actually Yoruba natives with few Fulani and Hausas who came with the conquering Fulani kings as foot soldiers. In the case of Hausa, we know the Hausas are Hausa while their kings are Fulanis. In case of Ika, the people origin was distorted to become the same as that of their conquering Edo kings with their foot soldiers who assimilated as indigenes. This is why the origin stories of Ika became irrational as you struggle to explain away the Igboid language being the native language of a people who supposedly originated from Bini and live next door to Edo state. The guy you are replying got it right. Ika was conquered by Bini. Its the only rational explanation. |
Sufferingboy:Obaseki ancestors came from Nsukwa and not Isselle-uku. |
Sufferingboy:You don't know what you are talking about. I'm a member of Igbanke National Progressive Forum, the one led by Gloria Adagbon, I also belong to their WhatsApp group where I don't comment but monitor their deliberations silently. Gloria and all Igbanke elites are leading a campaign to declare Igbanke a distinct ethnicity from Ika, much more like Ndoni though Ndokwa people are now a distinct group and no longer identify as Ndokwa even though they were carved out from Ndokwa part of Bendel in 1975 and added to Rivers state by Mammar Nasir boundary adjustment committee. The narrative gaining ground in Igabnke today is that Igbanke is an independent ethnic group and not an appendage to Ika who are in Delta. I have seen them discuss on their history too. And the overriding agreement on the forum is that they are Bini people who were influenced by Igbo migrants in their midst to become Igbo speaking. Only one man by the name "Nwajei" in the group tried to offer resistance to the Bini theory, insisting they had same ancestors as Igbos, but saw his voice drowned out by the majority of the people in that group who believe they are descendants of Bini princes. ![]() You seem to underestimate the gravity of changes taking place in Igbanke. The only reason the people craved to be added to Delta in the past was because the Edo state government seem to have marginalized the place. But Edo state government has recently started doing project in Igbanke and the people are beginning to get political posts in their LGA and state government and hence are beginning to feel at home in Edo state. The Igbanke are a people suffering from Stockholm syndrome and under Bini spell who wants to be treated as Binis by Binis but discovered that Bini people wouldn't accept them unless they deIgbonized themselves (do away with Igbo names and language). Their move to rejoin Delta is more like a soft pressure on Bini to accept them the way they are, not because they actually want to leave Bini. The people are proud of their distorted Bini origin and truly see themselves as Bini. Why should they want to leave Bini control? |
SlayerForever:No need for selected screenshots messages of IPOB members in Onu Ika page with fake accounts claiming to be Ika to make pro Igbo statements there. Onu Ika is a public forum, anyone can access the contents there without being a member. I'm no longer a member there, but still access their content. Let me go and search for the Dorathy BBN thread there and post the link here, so that every one can see how Igbo phobic those lots are. Ndiigbo must start telling ourselves the bitter truth about these minorities. Only the truth would help us going forward. |
Vintagepipes:I'm very much aware of their internal confusion within Ika. I have been a member of Onu Ika for years before I became a regular visitor after the Igbo phobic majority there threw me out from the group. The Agbor man believes he is Agbor and that there is no ethnic group called Ika. He believes other Ika towns were all extensions of people who left Agbor to establish those places. The Obi or is it dein of Agbor once released a public statement where he encouraged his Agbor people to stop giving their children Igbo and wait for it, IKA names. People were all over the net talking about the Dein telling Agbor people to stop bearing Igbo names that they all missed out on the big Elephant in the room, which is the fact that the Dein also warned the people against bearing IKA names. The Agbor suffers from Bini Stockholm syndrome. But somehow they want other Ika towns not to claim to have migrated from Bini too, but to claim to have migrated from Agbor. ![]() They don't think that what is good for the goose is also good for the gander. Why should other Ika towns claim Agbor origin, so that Agbor can claim Bini origin, when the Ika towns can claim direct origin from Bini themselves? ![]() Those lots are confused lots, and sincerely speaking, left for me , they should not be Part of Biafra as they have nothing to offer us but their Bini contaminated and confused selves. We don't need Ika. I'm yet to see any IPOB member convince me on the merits of addition of such confused people into Biafra. |
SlayerForever:Until you IPOB stop disgracing Ndiigbo with your shameful unity begging, whereby you make irrelevant groups start feeling relevant before Ndiigbo, I will not stop calling you lots out. ![]() |
SlayerForever:Stop your disgraceful unity begging. How can anyone visit an Igbo phobic page like Onu Ika and come on NL to lie that the people there are pro Igbo/Biafra? What exactly do you intend to achieve with such self deceiving propaganda? |
SlayerForever:Which Ika is onboard with your Biafra? Una no dey tire for this una Unity begging? Mtchew! |
Sufferingboy:You are not needed or wanted in Biafra. We don't want Bini contaminated Igbo phobic groups in Biafra. Biafra will be an Igbo only country, make no mistake about it. You are not in position to be giving Ndiigbo conditions to be met before you become part of Biafra. Ndiigbo are the ones to give you conditions to meet before you are allowed to be part of Biafra. Ika will have to go negotiate with your Bini masters or Ijaw masters to be part of Bini republic or Ijaw Niger Delta should Nigeria cease to exist. |
SlayerForever:The same Onu Ika I know or another one? Onu Ika is a very much Igbophobic forum, where Solomon Omonijie from Owa and his ilks hold sway. I remember how they cried bitterly on that forum when Dorathy of BBN identified as Igbo. All of them were in severe pains and were cursing her and her family for not raising her well. You IPOB people should stop making these irrelevant groups look relevant. They need us, but we don't need them. That's the reality, but the way IPoB are going with their shameless unity begging is making it look the other way. Dorathy claimed Igbo on BBN because she needed Igbo population vote . No Igbo man will ever claim Ika because Ika has nothing to offer Ndiigbo. |
Well, Republic of Igbo nation remain the best option for Alaigbo. On the 6th Igbo state thing. A new state comprising of Enuani, Ogbaru LGA of Anambra, and Ndoni in Rivers state, may be we can throw in Ohaji Egbema in IMO into it, and have the new state zoned to SE with Asaba as the capital city will be the most ideal situation. This state will be rich in oil and gas and human Resources and ready to go. |
Fejoku:They will lose big time. |
Burna boy is Engenni. Engenni are Edoid speakers found in Ahoada West LGA with Ekpeye people(Igboid speakers), who they share the LGA with. Engenni people suffer from identity crisis instigated by INC and IYC. Engenni should be an independent ethnic group or if at all they want to join a bigger ethnic group, they should be joining Bini, seeing as the people have a history of origin from Bini. See Engenni language here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engenni_language Its not an Ijaw language. It's an Edoid language closely related to Isoko, Urhobo and Bini languages. Engenni youths only joined Ijaw franchise because of the oil protection contract that IYC and INC were in control of and used to lure them to join political Ijaw, even when their language is obviously Edo. |
If you Ijaws keep up your folly in Ndoki. Ndiigbo will not only push you back, we would ensure you suffer by setting in motion cascade of events that will see you lose large territories that are obviously not Ijaw but that you have claimed over time no thanks to Gowon and masters of one Nigeria that needed to reward you with those territories for your role in Biafra defeat. These territories include: Bayelsa state 1. Ogbia(Ibibio) 2. Yenegoa (Edo land) Rivers state 1. Opobo(Distinct/hybrid) 2. Bonny(Distinct/hybrid) 3. Engenni (Edoland) 4. Odual(Ibibio) 5. Abua( Ibibio) 6. Degema( Edoland) 7.Andoni(Ibibio) |
nengibo:Here is Obolo language classification. Tell me how Obolo people who obviously speak Ibibiod language are Ijaw? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obolo_language See Ibibio language. Its same classification as Obolo:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibibio_language See Ogbia language:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogbia_language Notice its a Cross River language. Ibibio, Obolo, Andoni(Western Obolo), Odual, Abua, and Ogbia are basically same people sharing ancient ancestor. GEJ is more of an Ibibio man than an Ijaw man. The only reason Ogbia is politically Ijaw is because Ibibios have refused to outgrow their petty squabbles and take up their role as the dominant group in SS. You Ijaws are only claiming Eastern Obolo, Ibeno and Oron today because Ibibios stayed docile and allowed you claim those Ibibiod groups in Rivers state and Bayelsa. This is Engenni, Burna boy tribe:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engenni_language They are proto Edo people and speak Edoid language. They are distant cousins to Urhobo and Isoko and have a history of migration from Bini. This is not same as Ikwerre and other Igboid speakers claiming Bini, or obviously Ijoid speaking Nembe claiming Bini origin. Engenni are Edo people. But today Ijaw man is claiming Engenni and have succeeded in using their INC and IYC operatives to buy over the grassroots there. Though the GBD are fighting back now. See Degema. Degema originally belong to Edoid tribe called Udekeme who inhabited the land before few Ijaw people settled with them. The Udekemes remain Edoid speakers today, but Ijaws have succeeded in Ijawnizing the people there. Though GBD are making a fight back there too. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degema_language Bayelsa capital Yenegoa belongs to Epie-Atissa people, and these people are not Ijaws. They are Edoids who are more related to Isoko and Urhobo and they have a history of migration from Bini. Until recently, an Epie man would vehemently fight you if you called him Ijaw, because his language is obviously Edoid and he has a history of migration from Bini to prove it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epie_language The Odual people are also proto Ibibio people too. They speak Ibibiod Language classified as Cross river language. Yet INC and IYC have used their agents to confuse the grassroots there and today, Odual is politically Ijaw, even when their people speak a language that is obviously an extension of Ibibio. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odual_language What about Abua? Those are proto Ibibio people too. But who are today politically Ijaw, no thanks to Ibibios lacking political synergy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abua_language |
nuelsylves:Twitter is too elitist. While I will like to have Igbo elites take the issue of encroachment of aggressive minorities like Ijaw, Edo and Igala into Igboland serious, I would prefer a better grassroot platform where you are more likely to find the commoners, because the IYC and INC, GBD, we are up against are not twitter oriented. They target the commoners, the grassroots. They infiltrate Facebook pages of these groups spreading distorted origin stories, they even visits the villages of these groups to hold meetings with the youths and few hungry traditional leaders there who they could win over with money. This is very much a grassroot something than elitists thing. But I understand your point, the elites still have a role to play, so yes, I will try to raise it up in Twitter. |
Ekealterego:What many don't know is that GEJ was more of an Ibibio man than Ijaw man. Ogbia , GEJ ethnic group are related to Ibibio. Their language is Ibibiod and they should be part of Ibibio ethnicity or at least be acknowledged as an affiliated group politically to Ibibio like Itsekiri is to Yorubas. But Ibibios are so disunited that are too pre occupied with their inter clan squabbles (Efik, Annang, Oron refusing the proper Ibibio tag) that the expansionist Ijaws had moved in and claimed Ogbia, even when there is no link whatsoever between Ogbia language and Ijaw language. Problem with Ibibio docility in Ogbia is that it has emboldened Ijaws who are now moving in on Ibeno, Andoni, Eastern Obolo and even Oron. Yes, they are on the hunt for Egbema Rivers too, but met the same setback they are meeting in Ndoki, because majority of Egbema people are in IMO state and hence kept those in Rivers well immune from IYC and INC expansionist agenda. The Edos are expansionists themselves and in them, Ijaw have met their type. Ijaw thinking they have consolidated on Edo communities in Bayelsa and Rivers, namely Udekeme(Degema), Engenni(Burna boy clan) and Epie-Attissa( Edo owners of Yenegoa) went on to try their luck in Edo state and got their hands burnt. Now Great Bini descendants, a Bini expansionist group are in Engenni, Epie, Udekeme , holding annual meetings with their traditional leaders ,who send delegates back to Bini to meet Oba Bini , pledging allegiance to the Edos. What this means is that even Yenegoa, the supposedly Ijaw capital will not be part of Ijaw future country, because Edos have a geniuine claim there and the Epie Attissa people are obsessed with their Bini origin, which their language being Edoid confirms and with Oba Bini palace giving them open arm welcome, there is only going to be one outcome in the future. I was on Ijaw platform and the INC and IYC operatives were fumming about the activities of GBD in those Edoid communities in Bayelsa and Rivers state. I was laughing my ass off as an invisible observer as usual. A lot of things are happening behind scenes in this part of the country. |
nengibo:Nembe people speak Ijoid language but detest other Ijaws. Nembe claimed Bini origin in colonial reports and the Bini origin nostalgia remains in Nembe even today despite Allagoa being a Nembe man himself trying to stamp out the Bini affiliation of Nembe. Your small Ijawland is in shambles. Burna boy won Grammy and went to celebrate with Igbo society rather than Poor Ijaw ones and all Ijaw forums have been red with envy and bitterness since last week. It's only inferiority complex that will make Ijaw people to be claiming an Engenni man(Burns boy) whose language is Edoid and more related to Urhobo and Isoko than to any Ijoid language. The shame is on you. SE is on lock down. One United family. Ndoki clans in Oyiigbo is a no go area for you desperados. Because the Ndoki in Abia will keep them well anchored to the Igbo ship. Tell your shameless land grabbing Bayelsa people to stay off Ndoki land because all they will do is provoke the Ndoki indigenes to expel few Ijaw families that were accommodated in Ndoki land in the past back to Bayelsa. |
nengibo:I was in an Ijaw group where your people are quarrelling and bitter about Igbo language being spoken indigenously in Queenstown, Opobo and Bonny. With Ijaw nationalists from Bayelsa bitter and claiming that something has to be done about that. I was only an invisible observer as always in such forums. So I'm yet to visit Queenstown to find out the state of things there myself. But I definitely intend doing so this year. The message is clear. We are not like Ibibios that allowed you to claim all Ibibio communities in Bayelsa which have now given you the temerity to be moving to Ibibio heartland in Akwaibom to claim Ibeno, Eastern Obolo and even Oron. If you continue your stupidity in Ndoki, you will lose Opobo, Bonny and Queenstown (subject to investigation). |
nengibo:How exactly are any of those names Ijaw? ![]() Okolo is Igbo name. Ama is all over Igbo land. Amaigbo, Eziama, Amaisu, Amankanu, Amaokwe, AmaAwbia, Amanator, Amankwu, etc. You are delusional if you think Ama is an Ijaw word just because you Ijaws borrowed it from Ndiigbo and went on to name your new settlements after it. Akirika is Igbo too. Akirika is more like a hideout. In Igbo we have a saying: Agwo no na-akirika. Akirika communities in Ndoki are three and all have suffixes. Akirika-ukwu, Akirika-nta and Akirika-obu . The first two is in Abia state while the last one is in Akwa-Ibom state. How exactly is Akirika an Ijaw word? |
nengibo:Why are they Ezes and not Peres? How many Ezes do we have in Ijawland? Which Eze in Ndoki land bear Ijaw name? Which town in Ndoki land bear Ijaw name? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezeolisa_Allagoa https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Daukoru You Ijaws are mad trying to do this your rubbish in Ndoki land, you are done claiming Ibibiod groups in Bayelsa like Abua, Odual, Ogbia, because Ibibios are not so organized to reach out to these their ancient relatives, that's why you are now claiming Ibeno, Andoni Eastern Obolo and recently you have also in your madness added Oron. The Edo are a bit expansionists themselves and so are not going to give up on their Edoid brothers in Udekeme, Engenni and Epie Attisa who you Ijaws have claimed too. You think you only have Gelegele to settle with Edo, I laugh because you don't know what you are dealing with. You will meet your Waterloo in Ndoki land. Ndiigbo are very aware of your moves there, you will so crushed and as punishment, we will move for Opobo and Queensland. Wait till the current Igbo docile generation Manning Ohanaeze and Political positions are gone, you are not in any way ready to deal with the upcoming Igbo generation . |
nengibo:Some Ijaw people were allowed to settle as strangers in Ndoki land in Igbo spirit of accommodation. That doesn't make Ndoki Ijaw. Ndoki people know all the Ibani families that they accommodated during Ijaw canoe house wars, those few families know themselves too and they are the ones trying to instigate Identity crisis in Ndoki. We have alerted and sensitized Ndoki people now. If any descendants of such accommodated Ijaw families in Ndoki is tired of being Igbo, they will be expelled back to your Ijaw swamps. Many of such families were brought to Ndoki land by their sisters who were married to Ndoki men and were accommodated in the spirit of in-law. No one said there is no history between Ndoki and Ijaws. What we are saying is that Ndoki has always been Igbo. You are pointing one Ndoki man with Ijaw sounding name as evidence of Ndoki being Ijaw, but no Ndoki person knows the meaning of Taribo, not even the bearer knows, because its a foreign intrusion and has no meaning in Ndoki. But we have entire Opobo town and Queens town speaking Igbo language as indigenous language and we have kings in Bayelsa bearing Igbo names. |
Sufferingboy:Ika boy. Ika is insignificant and irrelevant to Ndiigbo. Your bloodlust for Igbo blood will be your undoing. Agbor your biggest town is a glorified Bush village. It is not Igbo man fault that your Bini ancestors left your Bini language for corrupted version of Igbo language you call Ika. I'm sure you bear a mutilated version of Igbo name which you shamelessly drag along. Ndiigbo are not responsible for your limbo state. Your bitterness will simply consume you. |
Obalatule:I seem to have time on my hand and in mood to squash his fragile ego. Nothing gives them group pride than the delusion that they are important to Ndiigbo. Once you tear that notion apart and break their little ego, they go mad and become filled with blood thirst as their innate Igbophobia become multiplied to 100 folds ![]() I enjoy seeing them in this state. It's a hobby of mine. Allow me catch some fun nwanne. Ima aghota. ![]() |
Sufferingboy:Please do. We are waiting for your Bini contaminated Igbophobic Igboid minorities to finally show your true selves. It helps the cause of Igbo nationalists like myself who see you lots for who you truly are. |
Sufferingboy:You don't cloth or feed Igbos in Ikaland. Instead they rent your shops and pay your people. Their trading activities create revenue for your local Boji Boji touts who come to collect tax from them on behalf of Delta state government and LGA council. You can't do anything to Igbos in Ikaland. Ika is just 2 LGA . If you try any nonsense Ndiigbo will send you into extinction. So my friend, you will do well to stop this your empty threat and accept the fact that Ika is insignificant, inconsequential, irrelevant and expendable to Ndiigbo and Igbo nation in the grand scheme of things. Unlike IPOB that has got you believing with their nauseating Unity begging that you are important to Ndiigbo. I'm here to slam you with the uncomfortable real situation and how Real Igbos view you. |
Sufferingboy:Go and hold your brief with IPOB. I believe they have Facebook and tweeter handles. Igbo nationalists would even be happy if Igbophobic minorities like Ika can go to IPOB pages and disgrace them with Igbophobic utterances, because those lots are proven impervious to reasoning. I'm not an IPOB member. While I support their quest for Biafra, I am totally against their multiethnic Biafra and would oppose it with whatever little means I can. Ndiigbo can't suffer to escape Nigerian tower of babel, only to be entangled in another Babelian mess with Igbophobic minorities. It doesn't make sense! We must get it right this time around and not repeat Zik mistake. Getting it right means that Biafra must be an Igbo only republic and with no room for Bini contaminated Igbophobic but Igboid groups like Ika, Ikwerre and their ilks. While all care must be made to include strategic Igbo groups like Ndoki in the Igbo country which means they must be shielded from aggressively expansionist minorities like Ijaws who are on a mission to implant identity crisis there. Hence the opening of this thread to create awareness among Igbo nationalists. |
Sufferingboy:I have no hate for Ika. I just see you as irrelevant to greater Igbo cause. I don't see what you would be bringing to the table for us, seeing as how un strategic Ika location and size is, coupled with your Bini contamination. Hating Ika will be a waste of hate. Nope, I don't hate Ika. I just don't like you, and I don't wish sharing a country outside Nigeria with Ika if majority of them reason like you do. On the other hand, I'm very much interested in Enu-ani. The human resources there is mind blowing and a new and growing Biafra can do with such quality human resources to map its way to greatness. Enu-ani (with exception of Issele-uku, who I'm still wondering what we are going to do with) are on the majority of same mindset as SE. It is hoped that in Future Igbo country, Onitsha will fuse with Asaba and all the way to Ogwashi-uku as a single mega city whose fame will be known all over the planet. You can go meet IPOB to settle your score with them. I'm an Igbo nationalist and have no tolerance for any idea or talk of multiethnic Biafra, so naturally my position is at variance with those of IPOB. But the good thing is that many Igbos share and support my stance. |
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