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Logicboy03: That is good for Zimbabwe but Zimbabwe is a hopeless country due to its politics.




We should learn from these Asian countries

General Garicks: So many miracles like this read about this shiloh sacrifice on last sunday's pamphlet. Nice one.

God! Nah my trun.

Wife, Range Rover Jeep, Duplex, Happening business(importer, expoter, transporter, manufaturer, contractor). God abeg.

Okija_juju: So that their cap will not fall when they are dancing....




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true2god: Im sorry i hav to start work for the week in earnest. Will respond to ur 'querried' by weekend. Man must start hussle for the week. See ya den.

true2god: Im sorry i hav to start work for the week in earnest. Will respond to ur 'querried' by weekend. Man must start hussle for the week. See ya den.

pastormustwacc: One thing that is very glaring on this thread is that most of the contributors dont even know the meaning of angel in the first place.
I believe that Jesus is an angel in the first place (going by the definition of an angel), but whether he is arcangel michael or not is the question.

truthislight: and if he is of the opinion that this angel was doing the work of resurrection then he bookmark is not getting it right.

Maybe it is because he is assigning the work of resurrection to another angel that is why my mind could not relate with what he was saying.

I know that befor the destruction of this system of things the work of identifying those that will survive must be completed first, and angel of Yahweh are involve in doing that.

As people respond to the gospel of the kingdom and attuned their life to it the angel of Yahweh identify such a one with a mark so that when the four(4) angels holding the wind of destruction that will destroy the wicked the marked ones will be saved for life eternal.
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That is not talking about the resurrection of the death.

1. The Resurection of the death takes place after the destruction of the wicked.(second Resurection) John 5:25-29,

2. the first Resurection - Revelation 20:6

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this is on going during the lords presence. And he is the one that said he is going to prepare a place for them and he is coming to receive them, so that where he is there they will be also.

" i am the way the truth and the life, no one goes to the father except through me" - John 14:3,6 (meaning no other angel can do that apart from christ)

He christ is still the one that will "take" them and not another angel.

While those of the first Resurection (2 above) are already seating on throne with christ - (Revelation 20:4,6) to judge the death that will be resurected during the 1000yrs Judgement day - Revelation 20-12,13.


I dont know how bookmark arrived at another angel doing the resurrection.

"No one goes to the father except through me"
John 14:6.

Boomark: Michael is a great angel and has a great role to play at the last days. The great tribulation will usher in the coming of Christ and Michael will not be resting that time.

Daniel showed us what Michael does that is standing for the people of God.

This is the summary of my explanation of 1 thessalonians 4:16.

1 Christ will give a commanding call and the dead will rise first.

2 Michael will stand for the elect. How? Satan and his demon will come to drag the elect as he did against Moses and he will hear his voice say "the Lord rebuke you."

3 The trumpet of God(i hope u knw they are angels) will then gather the elect, mt 24:31.

This just sweet when done step by step no jumping.

Boomark: Jesus came from heaven. He is a spirit.

So are all heavenly being angels?

seriallink: Ijawkid LDKMD for here

chukwudi44: Oga joagbaje don come againoo wetin pesin no go see for nl.Do you really mean to tell me that men are no longer inferior to God? This sheer heresy of the worst proportion.

Ryda: D question is very easy to ansa...alL u need to do is try any of the alternatives

(1)mix alomo with raw acid
(2)jump down from third mainland bridge
(3)spread ur mat on a railway line nd say ur prayers
(4)sTab a military man in the baracks
(5)chew caustic soda

when u try any of the above options...give us ur feed back.

Boomark: Concerning (2),
the explanation you guys gave is like cut and joining of Dan 12:1-3. Just like what barrister and truthislight did to 1Th 4;16.

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Boomark: Concerning (2),
the explanation you guys gave is like cut and joining of Dan 12:1-3. Just like what barrister and truthislight did to 1Th 4;16.

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Maryjanee: sorry for d questions but i'm still a bit confused from your end. From your explanation, Jesus as a man can be worshipped even if we are not to worship mortal man because he is the son of God, but cannot be worshipped as an angel? Pls put me through.

Goshen360: The curse began with a tree in Eden and ended on a tree at Calvary.......Glory to God!

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree: - Galatians 3:13

If we understand "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law". We should also understand, "[Christ] being made a curse for us" and much more, it had ended on the tree at Calvary! Christ had even fulfilled the "firstborn" shadows....because he became the "firstborn from the dead". Glory to God!

Boomark: true2god and truthislight erred when they brought up the issue of
JW watchtower and trinity propaganda as a basis for those would not follow the truth.

Concerning (1) above,
Jesus and John were called angels. Some used messengers for both of them. In what sense were both of them called angels? As spirits and ministers of flaming fire(how God made his angels, Ps 104:4) or did they just translate messenger to angel. The two will have to be uniform since they were both called messengers in some translations.

Boomark: My brother i wonder how i have been electrocuted(shocked) by barristers.

true2god: If u r a Barrister truely both u and ur client ar already in Jail on dis matter (lol). This is not a professional way to defend a client, who after admittin an error apologized and at the same time not sure of himself whether he had met me or not.

This wat an organization had turn u guys into. A sincere xtain will apologize to his fault, swallow his pride and move on. Paul curse some1 in the scriptures and wen he was told the person he cursed is a highly placed individual he immediatelly apologized and begged for forgiveness. Are u teaching Ijawkid the right thing or a bad thing. I tot u were a genius and i am an olodo. Tufiakwa!

true2god: Nobody is shocked anywhere but only JW, dnt be myopic my guy. Nobody, cos nowhere in the Bible remotely or directly Jesus was called an angel. I heard this fallacy first in 2004 and i trashed it squrelly with the pedllers. Try ansa my questions i asked u earlier before spewing ur kingdom hall tailored 'shocked' cos that is one of the key words u r taught to use anytime u seem to bambooz ur ignorant prospect.

true2god: The four i mentioned above are the basic defense response u guys giv anytime u r accused for changin ur belief system and u knw they r not in the bible. I need to ask u a question, had there been anytime that Jw were asked to worship the son, together with the father? Let start frm there.

Maryjanee: i have been following this thread, and i find it interesting. I am not a JW, but until today, i didnt know there was a scripture where Jesus is referred to as an angel..but Malachi quoted above makes it clear. Jesus is referred to as the "son of man" in d bible at least i have seen that before, dnt knw where. Is it ok to worship the "son of man"?

true2god: So i must swallow all the hand-outs from watchtower magazines before i will be honest with the scriptures. Ok lemme ask u a sincere question. Had there been any doctrine taught by watchtower before as true that they currently discard as false? Pls dnt mention xmas, birthday, new yr, easther celebrations to me. I mean bible-based doctrines.

True or false. That will guide me in answerin ur question or accusations here.

true2god: I hope u been readin my responses so far. Which scriptures? Malachi 3:1? This verse had been trashed (read my post). I cant repeat myself.

true2god: The point here is dat even if i explain dis verse to u , u wont take it or learn frm it. No one is teaching me my response, no organization is tellin me a standard response format like the way dey do in ur organization. My question to u is dis, if i xplain dis verses to u will u accept it, think over it?

Joagbaje: Giving to the poor is a principle in God as well as tithing and offering. A christian doesn't have to do them because the law says so . But because they are spiritual principles .

plappville: You are not been honest with scriptures, especially malachi 3:1!!

true2god: Im mentioning NWT cos dat the the most 'reliable' translation available to JW. U guys believe in its authority dan other translations. True or false. Besides there are many verse whose translations are quite different frm other Bible translations. Read John 1:1 of NWT and compare it with John 1:1 of most translations. Read the account of the criminals that were crucified with christ (christ final statement to the criminal) frm other translations and compare it wit wat u hav in the NWT.dats just a tip of the ice-burg, u will get the message clearer.

true2god: This is the issue i hav with some of u guys. U r here apologizin to me for callin me a cathlic and yet u r not sure if i am a catholic or not. Whether u hav met u somewhere on dis forum, even after tellin u i am not a cathlic yet u r not sure. Na wa 4 u ooo.

Thats the same way u guys apply to bible doctrines. U r not always sure of wat u r saying, as long as a doctrin comes frm watchtower thats wat u go for, no qualms, whether true or false. Whether the same doctrine will be de-validated as false tomorrow as soon as JW light gets brighter on dat issue.

Scroll back and read my analysis of malachi 3:1 u will see my stands on it. One messenger was to prepare the way for another messanger. One messanger comes with the spirit of Elijah (John the baptist) and the other messanger comes as a messiah (Jesus christ), filles with holy spirit. So non of the two is an angel. Dont believe lies and dnt propagate lies.