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Logicboy03: So, atheists, buddhists, pagans, muslims, mainstream christians etc are not thinking people?

You know that only occultic christians like Ijawkid and SL will take you seriously?

Now why would you call me an occultic??.....

When did deciphering bible prophecies turn one into an occultic??...lol...

Mr heathen.!!!!!!.........smh!!!.....

Now this one reason why you turned out an atheist....you never had the time to study and see how bible prohecies apply to our time and how it would apply in the future to come,rather you spent all your time bowing to mary and chanting the ""hail mary"".......its a pity......

dekung: standing on his pulpit and trying to debunk claims by people that he used church money to build his empire his nothing but a load of bull crap. he should come to channels or stv and grant interviews with Victor Ayara or any of thse fire brand reporters who are not afraid to ask questions. He should also allow a phone in programme. If he can do this then he would have cleared his name. But bragging on the pulpit where no one can challenge is only demonstrating himself as a biiiiiig bully

I would wanna be one of the inquisitors......

I go ask am question so tay him go run......

italo: So which branch of protestantism wouldd the apostles be? Anglican, Methodist or Redeemed? Baptist, Deeper Life or Mountain of Fire? Household, House on the Rock or Synagogue?

Which of these branches of Protestantism upholds the mode of worship and traditions of the Apostles?

Aha! It's the Jehovah's Witnesses, isn't it?

You are the ones that uphold Apostolic traditions and mode of worship, aren't you? *smiles*

Hhahahahahahahahahaha........italo ooo.......

You suppose know na...................

Then it means money fell down from HEAVEN like MANNA.....

Story story!!!!!!!!......

FOLYKAZE: @ Ijawkid

let me help you with some reality syrup.
Genesis 1:26
And God said, let us make man in our image. Who is He talking to?
Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, Behold, then man is become as one of us,to know good and evil. Am now a God.
Genesis 11:7
Let us go down, and there confound their language. Are those people He is talking to His mate? Like friend lets go
Exodus 12:12
And against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment. Egypt have God different from yours? Wow
Exodus 15:11
Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? Political scander in Heaven huh?
Exodus 18:11
Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods. How does other Gods come in? Later you will say Syria president is a bad guy.
Exodus 20:3, 5
Thou shalt have no other gods before me. ... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them. Jealously feeling inferior?
Exodus 22:20-28
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. (v.20) jealous huh? Why
Thou shalt not revile the gods. (v.28) copy that
Exodus 23:13-32
Make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth. (v.13) His God the Heavenly morsi (dictator)
Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, andquite break down their images. (v.24) i think your God is a soldier.
Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. (v.32)
Exodus 34:14
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. LOL
Numbers 33:4
Upon their gods also the LORD executed judgments. Why overthrowning? Who was God before God?
Deuteronomy 3:24
What God is there in heaven or inearth, that can do according to thy works?
Deuteronomy 5:7
Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
Deuteronomy 6:14-15
Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) So your God knows that every land have it God?
Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords. Heavenly Gadaffi thy God is
Deuteronomy 28:14
Thou shalt not ... go after other gods to serve them. This is for Israelite not ijawkid
Joshua 24:2-14
They served other gods. (v.2)
Fear the Lord ... and put away the gods which your fathers served. (v.14) coup de tal
Judges 11:24
Wilt not thou possess that which Chemosh thy god giveth thee to possess? Chemosh self dey bless. Lets go
1 Samuel 6:5
Ye shall give glory unto the God of Israel: peradventure he will lighten his hand from off you, and from off your gods. Why not God of Nigeria
1 Samuel 28:13
And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth. Are this Jehovah appointie
1 Chronicles 16:25
The Lord ... is to be feared above all gods.
Psalm 82:1-6
God standeth in the congregation of the mighty, he judgeth among the gods. They are now mate, pls who is the chief judge(v.1)
I have said, Ye are gods. (v.6)
Psalm 86:8
Among the gods there is none like unto thee, O Lord. From israelite David not Yoruba man
Psalm 96:4
For the Lord ... is to be feared above all gods.
Psalm 97:7
Worship him, all ye gods.
Psalm 135:5
Our Lord is above all gods.
Psalm 136:2
O give thanks unto the God of gods.
Jeremiah 1:16
I will utter my judgments against them ... who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods. Voice of the Jewish God, why feeling jealous?
Jeremiah 10:11
The gods that have not made theheavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. Who made pluto and venus
Jeremiah 25:6
And go not after other gods to serve them, and to worship them, and provoke me not to anger with the works of your hands; and I will do you no hurt. Wow heavenly Abacha
Jeremiah 46:25
I will punish the multitude of No, and Pharaoh, and Egypt, with their gods. Jahabacha?
Zephaniah 2:11
The Lord will be terrible to them: for he will famish all the gods of the earth. What of gods in heaven?
John 10:33-34
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? Wow, the jews are also God. Who is God before God and after God.
Answer those funny thing ijawkid, if u ve forgotten your Origin, Oborowe is ur God not Jehovah. If your God will be jealousy, y did he create God like him. Y did he felt like Abacha and power thirsty politician in Nigeria. Your God (Jehovah) have Boss, pls read Deut 32: 8-12


thanks

Just like every other atheist you are a cherry picker ........

Who ever argued here that there aint other gods??....

The point here is that Yahweh is the GOD over all gods....he is the Almighty.....

Do you understand the meaning of ALMIGHTY??......

Read psalms 83:18 And let it answer your question............


All heavenly beings are Gods...

We humans are Gods too........

But Yahweh is the almighty....

Thank you......

Lovethywilbedon: Thank you very much. Ijawkid , But how come you dont see the word "PROTESTANTS" in the Bible or any where in the History of Mankind untill as late as 14th Century, ie during the time of Luther, this is 1,500 year after Christ.
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Thank you very much. Ijawkid But how come you dont see the word "PROTESTANTS" in the Bible or any where in the History of Mankind untill as late as 14th Century, ie during the time of Luther, this is 1,500 year after Christ.

The word ""protestants"" isn't my business......it isn't in the bible neither do I cherish the word.............I'm only just saying that if the apostles existed today catholics would term them as ""PROTESTANTS""......and I gave the reason why......

.bbpreye:
Then you never start to go church binowei! Come and all ur problems will be solved! But please come with your,

Sunday offering
Thanksgiving offering
Media offering
Pastors welfare offering
Pastors wife welfare offering
Pastors P.A welfare offering

And keep some change for seed planting and testimony keying!

Bless u

Na him be say I go go back to my house koboless after service....lol....

.bbpreye:
Please share your's.

I attend Back to Sender Ministry.

Lmao.....which one be back to sender ministry again??....lol....

obadiah777: INDEED LOL. YOU GET HAWKERS IN NIGERIA HAWKING LAPALAPA CREAM. LAPALAPA CREAM IS UBIQUITOUS. WE NEED TO GET BOOKMARK SOME OF THAT CREAM. HE HAS LAPALAPA OF THE MOUTH, JUDGING FROM ALL THE RUBBISH HE SPEWS

Lmao........chei I don craze for laugh......

nedu2000: John 3:16.....for God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten "SON"..........versions of the bible vary as 'servant' can signify anyone ready to do someone else bidding. I for example is a servant to my father 'cause I do his bidding,but doesn't take away the fact that I'm still his son

And also his servant at the same time..........

Isaiah 53:1-12 prophesied long in advance that Yahwehs servant(Jesus) is whom he will use to redeem mankind..........

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Verses 11 and 12 in particular was emphatic about that.....

11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life[d] and be
satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous "SERVANT" will
justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among
the great,[g]
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
[h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the
transgressors.
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obadiah777: SCRIPTURE DO SAY THE LORD CREATED ALL THE ,ERBS FOR OUR ENJOYMENT *PUFF PUFF PASS*

Lol...........

Wahala90: Men willingly give to the work of God for their own good. When you give in line with the word of God, you receive his blessings. Otherwise, you will be frustrated and end up accusing men of God as your problem. Did anybody ever accuse Oyedepo of robbing or defrauding him? or Did anyone complain that he is using the Church jets for his private movements?

What else is he using the private jets for??....

Are his members also allowed to board the jets??......

Have you ever entered those jets before(I'm assuming you're a member of WINNERS)??..........

obadiah777: WHY DO THOU PERSECUTETH ME BOOKMARK

Lmao.........

inurmind: Funny u didn't mention the humility part.
Actually I think everybody in the religion section is guity of this.
If we could all for once let go of our pride, I believe we would see things better and make much more progress.

Ok sir....I'm LOYAL sir...:-)........

inurmind: A thousand pounds of humility and honesty

But I'm honest na......that's why I gave you the go ahead to explain that verse to plaetton and thomas ROCISKY......lol.....

inurmind: Yeah but u'll have to pay me for that.
It's not everyday I see christians defending me even when they know I'm right.

Lol......I'll do exactly that.........

Just tell me how much I'll pay.....lol.....

plaetton: New translation, new meaning.
We know that trick.
This is your idea of scriptural reasoning, huh?

So do you think the previous rendering was a mistranslation or a mistraliteration?

LikÉ I said earlier,pride won't let you settle down to really look into that verse to get the true meaning..................

All you do is peruse the scriptures to find verses that might look contradictory so that you can continue in your Godlessness..........


If Yahweh is the LORD of the heavens,have u asked yoursÉlf how the elders(not even angels that reside in the heavens) would be greater than GOD or equal to him??..........

Smh!!!!.....

For your Info the GNT only made that verse clearer.............

inurmind: Nay, christians can invalidate that claim easily.
Have u read the book of revelation?
The 24 elders?
Ring a bell?
It's just like a an igwe or oba having a council of elders, doesn't mean he's under them.

Wow! Christians u better pay me for this

You just §aid it Ýourself.............please explain. This to plaetton and ROCISKY.......lol....

Now I know why you guys have turned out atheists and agnostics.........
1.....POOR UNDERSTANDING of scriptures and also

2..... PRIDE in not wanting to learn......

Now let's see that verse from another rendition....

Isaiah 24:23
Good News Translation (GNT)
23 The moon will grow dark, and the sun will no
longer shine, for the LORD Almighty will be
king. He will rule in Jerusalem on Mount Zion,
and the leaders of the people will see his glory.
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Hope you can see the real meaning of that verse??......how can YAHWEH who has appointed Elders or leaders to lead his people be less than those he has appointed??.....does it make any sense to you mr rosciky or what is your name...??


Smh!!!!!!!...........

Lovethywilbedon: And you don't think that Jesus honoured His Father and His mother while on earth?.

My freind leave mary alone...........leave her alone oooooooooooo............

What will HONOURING her do for us??...

Will it give us everlasting LIFE??.......

And may I correct you::::::.....you don't only honour mary,you worship her....

1....You bow down to her image(I don't even know how you guys got that image) and You utter mantras to her.....

.2... you call her immaculate....(That's blasphemy)...........

3....You call her queen of heaven....

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Infact you worship mary...........leave her alone and focus on Yahweh and his son......it is when we focus on those 2 persons that we will gain life(john 17:3)........

eldoradoxx: Thank u so much, I heard that too. You see, he has interest in series of businesses both in and outside Nigeria. People who don't really understand will always criticize what they don't know. As a man of God, why would his business become subject of publicity?

You know its a lie naaaaaa.........

If it is true you should know those guys were coerced......

I don't think you really know how much an oil well is worth and also a gold mine so as for individuals to give it off as a gift to oyedepo "" willingly"".................


Make ona dey shine ona eyes ooooo...............

[quote author=Lovethywilbedon][/quote]From your comments I can conclude that the apostles and 1st century christians were protestants too.....

Because there form of worship and the traditions they upheld(just as Jesus laid down) are totally different from what the catholics practice......


If the apostles were alive today they'll be protestants too............
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striktlymi: Good afternoon once again,



I quite agree with you on the above quote. "Men of God" should not use "Church" as an escape route from the challenges and difficulties of life. I am very pleased that he has "businesses" that he runs. This too I am sure Apostle Paul would be pleased with, cause he also believes in the dignity of labour.

But really you can't be absolutely sure that he owned those businesses before he became a pastor. Because in order to effectively prove that he did not use church as an escape route from the difficulties of life, you need to demonstrate that those businesses were in existence before he became a pastor and the businesses were thriving. Remember that you made the following comment:



Doesn't the above quote show that at the time he was pastor there was no business venture? Or at best the business he might have had, was not that profitable? If the business was profitable there won't be any need to deny the wife money cause he gave his salary to God.

Now, can't we safely assume that if he got the businesses after he became pastor, he actually had the business empire via the church's fund? Yes, there has to be a business empire for someone to be a billionaire. Again, if there is a business empire, which enabled him build a university within 7 months, how come we have no knowledge of it? If you know any of his companies, please post it here and let's verify the claims. Or are we saying that the businesses are:

1) The church
2) The University

Like I said, I am not trying to discredit him but really since he wants to talk about it, then I think we have a right to ask some questions too in order to have a better understanding.

Thank you!

Very good questions.....

All this one na story....

Let him tell us how he got all his wealth today??.....was he working in SHELL??.....or what??....

This guy funny sha.....only olodo's would listen to this story and go home refreshed.....smh!!!......

italo: SMH still!!!!!

Jehovah's witness!!!!!!

Lol..

mkmyers45: LOL

Im not an ex-catholic

and
am
no
atheist

You should be agnostic...right??...

Lol......

But I'd like you to comment on what I've observed so far.......

Pastor Kun: Abeg stop comparing Elisha to these charlatans Elisha died at a ripe old age as all men must die. Besides Faith Oyedepo is not dead anyway (probably due to the treatment she received abroad) the question still remains why does Oyedepo preach divine health to his followers whilst he seeks medical attention for his family in the best hospitals abroad Is it due to lack of faith on his part or he is just a pure hypocrite

Kun aguero this question hard o......

I wish say I fit answer am......lol....

I have a feeling and it seems its true that most of the atheists we have around were ex-catholics....

Just my observation......if I'm wrong abeg make ona correct me.......

Because the way they fly out to defend the catholic church stupefies me.......

Smh!!!!!......

italo: SMH!!!!!!!

Jehovah's witness!!!!!!

I'm happy to be witnessing about YAHWEH.......

As for you ,you worship a woman,who's dead and whom you claim to be the queen of heaven...........

Smh!!!!!.......

obadiah777: LOL YEAH HE WAS KNOWN TO BE A WINE BIBBER LOL. THE PHARISEE LIST SHALL BE REVIEWED IN 2013. FOR A SMALL FEE YOUR NAME CAN BE TAKEN OF IT 'SCRATCH MY BACK I SCRATCH YA BACK '

Bribery and corruption.......lol....

italo: Dumb-ass. Jesus is. Mary is the Ark that carried the new covenant - the Word in flesh, just like the old Ark carried the old covenant - the Word on stone.

Read again.

By the way, is that the Jehovah's Witness?

SMH!!!!!!!..........

Always fixing mary into discussions that she isn't suppose to be found..........

Mary worshipper.....

I know till this moment you still think that mary is the woman mentioned in revelation chapter 12....

OLODO rabata!!!!!!!........