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davidylan: I'm always amazed at how all the "miracles" from gatherings like this are 120% all about material "blessings".

That has also been a question on my mind....

You'll never hear testimonies like::::

##...I was an ashawo/a fornicator(applying to both males and females) but right now I'm cleansed and no longer leading an immoral life...

##....I used to be a thieving politician,but as we speak I've returned all the monies I looted from the government,served prison terms and now serving God with a clean conscience...

##...I used to be adulterous,but right now I'm faithful to my wife.......

##....I use to be materialistic,but right now I've learnt the way of godly contentment.....I've cut down on my busy schedule so that I can have more than enough time to serve God instead of chasing money....
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These are testimonies you'll never hear in SHILOH conventions..........

If it aint about aquiring material wealth and selfish pursuits then they aint saying nothing..........

italo: There it is. The Ark of the new covenant - Mary the mother of Jesus the new covenant.
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Italo what is this blasphemy??!!!!!!!!!!.....so you still have not learnt anything from the other threads........

So mary is the new covenant??......

Don't let the both of us argue hard this morning o........

pastormustwacc: And the winner is?

And the winner is pastormustNOTwac......lol.....

This thread isn't about winners.....its about scriptures interpreting scriptures....precept upon precept........

That ark was destroyed JARE.............

That ark even if been preserved some where would be as powerless as fried DODO............

Yahwehs spirit has left everything associated with the ancient Temple ..........

Goshen360: plappville, Vous devrez peut-être consulter votre courrier électronique avec lequel vous avez enregistré votre compte nairaland. Ou vous cliquez sur mon nom d'utilisateur et cliquez sur "envoyer Goshen360" un e-mail, c'est la façon d'envoyer un mail privé et je vais le recevoir dans mon yahoo mail. A partir de là, je vous contacterai. Voilà comment cela fonctionne ..... vous attend chérie. Merci.

Quant à ce petit garçon appelé logicboy03, ne pas lui en vouloir. Il est juste d'être un petit enfant tel qu'il est. D'accord.

Goshen:::::....can I come for french classes??...:-)......

Goshen360: ^^^ My brother, don't be quick to comment on articles without a verifiable source o. Relax bro.....

Ok sir........:-)

tutee1000: Catholic church is the center of christian ecumenism. without it, all other "mushroom" churches will fall apart..Take it or leave it..We Catholics do not worship images, the images only make us conscious of our worship of God.

And I put it to you and your type that you worship images..........

Prove to us that you don't worship images......


I've not seen were people engage in idolatry with so much pride.........

For how long will the images of mary and the use of the pagan rosary keep you guys conscious of the worship GOD??

And which GOD if I may ask??.......

Idol worshippers that's what y'all are......

So attending the chapel is now mandatory for one who wants to be a student of that school......??

Is the school a church??........


I just feel like going back to school and attending that covenant university,so that I can tell this mr OYEDEPO some truths.......

Rubbish!!!!.........

unclenna: Examples of great servants:
Jesus, Moses, Joseph, David, Samuel, Joshua, Elisha, Bishop Oyedepo, add yourself if you are a faithful servant of GOD. etc.

Oyedepo sure doesn't behave like a SERVANT if you ask me..........

Have you tried comparing oyedepo to those faithful partriachs you listed??...........

Hmmmmm...............

free123: bring out what u know and stop asking me questions

SMH!!!!!!...........

Answer my question and stop acting like a child..............

free123: why not start from what is wrong with the verses ur NWT equally butchered that were quoted above instead showing ur frustration and baseless comment

I'm not showing any frustration here,I'm only trying to show you how jejune you are..........

I want you to go check up the original hebrew and greek texts to fiÑd out really if the above translations you've labelled ""frauds"" are actually spurious or not...........

Don't look at the KJV ,instead study the the originals.......
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And it seems you know me very well............

1...First of all I'll ask you.....:::::: the NWT restores back the tetragrammaton(YHWH) in all the verses as it appeared in the original hebrew and greek texts...... how many places in the KJV can we find the ""tetragrammaton"" being used and how many times does it appear.??.......

Note:::::.....the tetragrammaton appears more than 6000 times in the hebrew scriptures alone...........

free123: ijawkid

u can do d exposition of any version u found wanting and from the article, it is clear the version i am using

And I can see its the KJV you are using that God directly dropped down from the heavens.......

Let me ask you:::::......are there translation flaws in the KJV that you know of especially when compared with the original hebrew and greek texts??..........

free123: NIV butchered 64,576 words

Don't look for the "mercyseat" in the NIV - GONE!
Don't look for "Jehovah" in the NIV -
GONE!
Don't look for the "Godhead" in the NIV - GONE!
The NIV removes wonderful Bible "terms"
like remission, regeneration, impute,
propitiation, new testament and many
others!
Despite God's clear warnings about
"taking away" from His words - the NIV
removes 64,576 words! Over 8 percent of God's word is "TAKETH AWAY"!
That equals REMOVING the books of
Ruth, Esther, Ecclesiastes, Song of
Solomon, Lamentations, Hosea, Joel,
Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum,
Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Malachi,
Colossians, I Thessalonians, II
Thessalonians, I Timothy, II Timothy,
Titus, Philemon, James, I Peter, II Peter, I
John, II John, III John, Jude and more -
COMBINED!!! The equivalence of
ripping out OVER 30 BOOKS of the
Bible!
In case you think it's insignificant words like "thee" and "thou"? The NIV removes major portions of at least 147 verses!
Here's a small (very small) sampling of
words removed in the NIV!
Matt. 6:13, "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.
Amen."
Matt. 15:8, "This people draweth nigh
unto me with their mouth"
Matt. 19:9, "and whoso marrieth her
which is put away doth commit
adultery."
Matt. 20:7, "and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive."
Matt. 20:16, "for many be called, but few chosen."
Matt. 20:22, "and be baptized with the
baptism that I am baptized with"
Matt. 25:13, "wherein the Son of Man
cometh."
Matt. 27:35, "that it might be fulfilled
which was spoken by the prophet They
parted my garments among them and
upon my vesture did they cast lots"
Mark 6:11, "Verily I say unto you, it shall be more tolerable for Sodom and
Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than
for that city."
Mark 10:21, "take up the cross."
Luke 1:28, "blessed art thou among
women"
Luke 4:4, "but by every word of God"
Luke 4:8, "get thee behind me Satan"
Luke 4:18, "he hath sent me to heal the broken hearted"
Luke 11:2-4, "Our ... which art in ... Thy
will be done, as in heaven so in earth...
but deliver us from evil"
John 1:27, "is preferred before me"
John 3:13, "which is in heaven"
John 3:15, "should not perish"
John 11:41, "from the place where the
dead was laid"
John 16:16, "because I go to the Father"
Acts 10:6, "he shall tell thee what thou
oughtest to do"
Acts 15:18, "Known unto God are all his
works"
Acts 20:24, "But none of these things
move me"
Acts 23:9, "let us not fight against God"
Rom. 8:1, "who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit"
Rom. 13:9, "Thou shalt not bear false
witness"
I Cor. 6:20, "and in your spirit which are
God's"
I Cor. 11:24; "Take eat... broken"
II Cor. 10:4, "but mighty through God"
Gal. 3:1, "that you should not obey the
truth"
Eph. 5:30, "of his flesh, and of his bones"
Phil. 3:16, "let us mind the same thing"
I Tim. 6:5, "from such wthdraw thyself"
Heb. 7:21, "after the order of
Melchisedec"
I Pet. 1:22, "through the Spirit"
I Pet. 4:14, "on their part he is evil
spoken of, but on your part he is
glorified"
I John 4:3, "Christ is come in the flesh"
I John 5:13, "and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God"
Rev. 1:11, "I am Alpha and Omega, the
first and the last"
Rev. 5:14, "him that liveth for ever and
ever"
Rev. 14:5, "before the throne of God"
Rev. 21:24, "of them which are saved"
Jesus Christ says, in Luke 4:4, ". . . It is
written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD of God." But not according to the NIV! In fact, the NIV even "TAKETH AWAY" the last half of Luke 4:4 - "BUT BY EVERY WORD OF GOD"! And Jesus Christ was quoting Deuteronomy 8:3 to Satan! Does the
NIV PERversion seriously think the
Lord Jesus Christ does NOT know
Duet. 8:3

Instead of you to take us to the hebrew and greek texts of those bible verses you are here ranting about how the NIV is inferior and a fraud.....

I can percieve you are one of those persons who think the KJV is the only right bible rendition..........

It might surprise how the KJV is filled with so much flaws.........

My advice:::::.....go to the root words Of those verses to see if they are right or wrong rather than to come out here bleating...........the bible wasn't written in english so let's get back to the originals and confirm what we have now.........

SMH!!!!!!!........

And so which is the bible re-endition that fell down from the heavens??.........

It seems you really want me to expose every wayo found in the translation you might be using...........

Just tell me the bible rendition you are using and let's see if its perfect.....oYA!!!!........

If its the Kjv then you are in trouble......

acidtalk: Religion that the Congregation Work for the Leaders to buy privates jets

Religion that people donate their 10% only for the leaders to be listed of Forbe's richest.

Religion that the Leaders accept stolen goods from their congregation.

Religion that the front row seats are occupied for Criminals and corrupt public office holders.

Religion that their leader tells them mastur*bation and alcohol consumption is permitted.

Lol........

Now I know why the road to eternal life is indeed cramped and meant for few persons....

E no easy @ all o.....

obadiah777: YOU AND TRUTHISLIGHT NEED TO QUIT READING THAT NIV BIBLE. YALL COMING TO THIS WAR WITH BLUNTED SWORDS. YOUR TWO EDGED SWORD NEEDS SHARPENING. YALL CANT COME TO A GUN FIGHT WITH KATAPAULT. YALL CANT DO THAT. TRY THAT SHARP SWORD. THE KJV, THAT IS

Buzu boy.......

I hope you know sometimes the KJV can be blunt.........

You need to take with you a dagger(NIV,GNT,ESV,RSV etc) strapped around your feet lest your KJV gets blunt....lol...

1.....Its root is pagan....so pagans love it...

2.....Its of the world,so the world would cherish it.......

This mr pastor needs a brain check........

And where is the money??......

Let them start using it to develop the country........

Mr Anony and my twin bro BUZUGEE a.k.a Obadiah 777............

##though we don't agree on some maJor religious issues Mr Anony has been very good and intelligent in this forum............

**As for BUZUgee.........he's crazy(so damn funny) and also intelligent.............
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So I'll nominate Mr anony and obadiah 777....

freechat: 2 Samuel 11:2-5

English version
2 One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, 3 and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, “She is Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite.” 4 Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (Now she was purifying herself from her monthly uncleanness.) Then she went back home. 5 The woman conceived and sent word to David, saying, “I am pregnant.”

Pidgin version
2 As David don sleep tire one evening like dat, na im e climb go penthouse. As im dey look around, omo na im e see one otepu wey dey baff. Spiritual konji con hold am because the babe tap, 3 na im Dave send one runs guy to go arrange the parole. E come be say the babe name na Bathsheba and her palle name na Eliam. Na one bobo wey dem dey call Uriah from Hittite village, na im carry the babe wholesale." 4 Dave no dull himself at all, e ping the babe sotey she show, come collect banana, upon say she just dey finish her period. 5 E no tey before the otepu ping Dave back, come tell am say guy, you don package me o!

Hahahashhahahahah.....

Oboy u dey mad o.......

I don laff my belle tear.......

David sef na wa.....

seriallink: Hahahahahaha Buzugee, I don laff sotey tears dey comot for my eyes! LWKMD!! But, na good offer buzugee make oh Mr. Muskeeto allow us to take you to a safer place for mosquitoes

The boy too funny......I laughed so hard......

Its like oyhakilome is better than his colleagues in terms of aquiring material gains.......he needs to be applauded....:-)

BERNIMOORE: @Bidam



thats not the issue here brother! but the issue is you, because 'jesus became the high priest according to the likeness,similarity and resemblance of office of melchizedech, and not that jesus function under(insult) a so called 'priesthood order' formulated outside the bible context to suit the advocates of modern tithe theory. okay?



nobody is disputing this,but could be a diversionary tatics!



may i tell you these today sir, levites (as a family) were commanded according to the law to receive tithes (an officiate as priests) from the people according to the law.


can you please let us consider;

hebrews 7:5

5 And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham;

David (a non levite) was not eligible under the law to officiate at the alter,

now let me cite the bible quotes in the cite that you quoted in your post;


David was directed to erect an alter, as the only 'emergency option' to stop the plague killing his people isrealites and not as a regular priest; read;

2 sam 24:18, 24-25
18 So Gad came to David that day and said to him, “Go up, erect an altar to the LORD on the threshing floor of[h]Araunah the Jebusite.”

David was reluctant because he knew tht he was not from the levite family, and knew the implication; read,

24 However, the king said to Araunah, “No, but I will surely buy itfrom you for a price, [size=14pt]for I will not offer burnt offerings to the LORD my God[/size] [a]which cost me nothing.” So David bought the threshing floor and the oxen for fifty shekels of silver.

David accepted only on the condition of Gad who directed him.and not because he is eligible but for emergency.that is the time the plague was removed,an emergency situation.

25 David built there an altar to the LORD and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings. Thus theLORD was moved by prayer for the land, and the plague was held back from Israel.

levites were suffered by jeroboam,solomon's son who rejected the priesthood of levites not because he was right to do what he wants but a clear violation of Gods law!

he jeroboam appointed for himself[size=14pt] priests for the high places, for the demons, and the calf idols which he had made. [/size]

im surprised that you Bidam can even use this to butrss your point because you want to build modern tithe legacy, see what you are supporting your point with, pure idolatory priest,;

2 chron 11:14-15

14 For the Levites left their common-lands and their possessions and came to Judah and Jerusalem, for Jeroboam and his sons had rejected them from serving as priests to the LORD. 15 Then he appointed for himself priests for the high places, for the demons, and the calf idols which he had made. 16 And after the Levitesleft,[a] those from all the tribes of Israel, such as set their heart to seek the LORD God of Israel, came to Jerusalem to sacrifice to the LORD God of their fathers.

And lastly you claimed that David made his sons priests which is false, you cited
2 chronicle 29:27

27 Then Hezekiah gave the order to offer the burnt offering on the altar. When the burnt offering began, the song to the LORD also began with the trumpets, [a]accompaniedby the instruments of David, king of Israel.

no where in the bble verse above which you quoted that support David directing his sons as priest, nothing like that was even mentioned there read yourself now. David and solomon offererig up burnt offerings, offered peace offerings, and made a feast for all his servants does not make them priests or part of priesthooh family, they are one-off.

it is only the levites family that receive the commandment coded and written as statutes (hebrews 7:5) and that is why

(heb 7:14)

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14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, [size=14pt]of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood[/size].

priesthood recognition has to be commanded and written down as atatutes before it can be recognised in the old law! mere one off offerings did not validate one as a priest,or belong to the priesthood family,because God had already set the pattern.
stop making a case for David but rather 'tribe of judah' are there priest in tribe judah?

Very good rebuttal..........

Make ona hear LORDS PRAYER O....

Matthew 6:9-13

9..Ona must pray like this ""OUR Popsy wey dey for heaven your name too much JARE that is why we go dey call am,10 make your KINGdom come Àbeg,make your plans happen ,as e dey happen for heaven make na so e happen for this earth berekete. 11 continue to nak us our usual fufu,starch,ewagoin,afang soup,tuwo,kekefia,and eba everyday ;12 abeg forgive us for all the yeye/yamayama things wey we dey/don do as we sef dey forgive those wey don make us vex well well..13 BABA GOD abeg make sure say we no turn to satan scape Goat,instead make you continue to give us ODESHI wey go protect us from that "wiliwili" wey them dey call satan....
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dadicvila: Amos 3:3>>two people go fit run package except them gree??

Lmao.....I like this one ehhhhh.......

Bidam: As long as it is profitable for correction and instruction to righteousness why not.

And as long as it can be used to milk the gullible dry.........

Oboy its high time you forfeit this tithing issue........no early christian engaged in it.........

We are gentiles for Christ sake.......

Leave tithing for the natural Jews......

Abi you be natural JEW??..........

freechat: Luke Chapter 19:1-5
English version
1 Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through. 2 A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was wealthy. 3 He wanted to see who Jesus was, but because he was short he could not see over the crowd. 4 So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore-fig tree to see him, since Jesus was coming that way. 5 When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.”

Pidgin version
1 Jesus show for Jericho come dey pass enter another koro. 2 E come get this bros when dem dey call Zacchaeus, wey be tax collector come get pepper join. Zack try make im see Jesus, but im two short legs no let am because plenty people gather. 4 As a sharp guy, bros Zack come climb one tree when im see say Jesus don dey show that side. 5 When Jesus reach there come look up see where Zack anchor with im two short legs, na im Jesus halla: "Zacchaeus, oya show sharperly, na for your crib i wan crash today."

Hahahahaha.....I love this........

You sabi nak broken well well......

advocate666: The bible is such a joke.

I get one scripture for YOU.....oya read am...

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Proverbs 14:6..::::

Person wey dey find trouble or wey dey curse with him mouth go always find way to know something but na "OLODO" him go remain as........but for person wey get "SENSE" to know something no dey hard.........
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For you to abuse the bible you be OLODO.......lol

PAGAN 9JA:
CERNUNNOS

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Is this not madness......

That guy looks like motero of mortal kombat.......lol....

Joagbaje: In christ I am no longer inferior to God. I have his divine nature . His righteousness and his life.

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Oboy abi something dey worry your head of recent??......

You are no longer inferior to GOD??....who are you??....

Even JESUS is inferior to GOD more or else "DUST" like you.....

Oboy take time oo............

pastormustwacc: This thread is out of hand!

We need call one police to arrest all of us.....lol.......